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Judy Haffner  
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From: jhaff...@webtv.net (Judy Haffner)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:48:25 -0800
Local: Tues, Aug 28 2012 1:48 pm
Subject: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?

http://ent.mobile.msn.com/en-us/articles.aspx?aid=753518&acid=3&afid=1

"2016: Obama's America," the right-wing documentary that has rocked the
box office with its challenge to the president's record, will expand to
about 1,800 theaters on Friday, Rocky Mountain Pictures told TheWrap
Monday night.
Obama discusses friendship with George Clooney

That's up from the 1,091 theaters it played in over the weekend, taking
in $6.2 million between Friday and Sunday with a per-screen
average of $5,940 -- the best of any film in wide release.

Produced for roughly $2.1 million, the film -- with its catchphrase,
"Love Him. Hate Him. You Don't Know Him" -- has made $9.3 million
since its release seven weeks ago, and has surpassed "Bully" as the
year's top-earning documentary.

The expansion of the film will surely benefit from the buzz surrounding
the ongoing Republican National Convention. Part of it will target the
Heartland, a primary focus of the long-term roll out strategy according
to Rocky Mountain's Mark Joseph, who is handling the film's marketing
with co-director John Sullivan.

Anti-Obama documentary has strong opening

Joseph was still analyzing Monday's box office numbers and said the
expansion count remained fluid.

Based on conservative author Dinesh D'Souza's book, "The Roots of
Obama's Rage," the documentary purports to show what the nation will be
like should President Obama be re-elected, and includes an interview
with the president's half brother, George Obama.
........................................

Maybe some of you already have seen this film, and if so, what did you
think of it? I would very much like to see it, but I have a feeling it
won't be coming to any of our regular theaters, but maybe to one of the
smaller independent local theaters, that often feature documentarys, or
films the regular theaters don't show.

Judy


 
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From: AnnieB <Ann...@privacy.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 11:55:52 -0700
Local: Tues, Aug 28 2012 2:55 pm
Subject: Re: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?
On 8/28/2012 10:48 AM, Judy Haffner wrote:

Judy's ready for another political battle.

Since I'm anti-Romney and pro-Obama, I'm really not interested in seeing
it at all.  I'm sure all of the Obama haters will go wallow in the BS.

AnnieB


 
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 More options Aug 28 2012, 3:35 pm
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:35:26 -0600
Local: Tues, Aug 28 2012 3:35 pm
Subject: Re: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?
"Judy Haffner"  wrote in message

news:25562-503D0469-42@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net...

http://ent.mobile.msn.com/en-us/articles.aspx?aid=753518&acid=3&afid=1

"2016: Obama's America," the right-wing documentary that has rocked the
box office with its challenge to the president's record, will expand to
about 1,800 theaters on Friday, Rocky Mountain Pictures told TheWrap
Monday night.
Obama discusses friendship with George Clooney

That's up from the 1,091 theaters it played in over the weekend, taking
in $6.2 million between Friday and Sunday with a per-screen
average of $5,940 -- the best of any film in wide release.

Produced for roughly $2.1 million, the film -- with its catchphrase,
"Love Him. Hate Him. You Don't Know Him" --Â has made $9.3 million
since its release seven weeks ago, and has surpassed "Bully" as the
year's top-earning documentary.

The expansion of the film will surely benefit from the buzz surrounding
the ongoing Republican National Convention. Part of it will target the
Heartland, a primary focus of the long-term roll out strategy according
to Rocky Mountain's Mark Joseph, who is handling the film's marketing
with co-director John Sullivan.

Anti-Obama documentary has strong opening

Joseph was still analyzing Monday's box office numbers and said the
expansion count remained fluid.

Based on conservative author Dinesh D'Souza's book, "The Roots of
Obama's Rage," the documentary purports to show what the nation will be
like should President Obama be re-elected, and includes an interview
with the president's half brother, George Obama.
........................................

Maybe some of you already have seen this film, and if so, what did you
think of it? I would very much like to see it, but I have a feeling it
won't be coming to any of our regular theaters, but maybe to one of the
smaller independent local theaters, that often feature documentarys, or
films the regular theaters don't show.

Judy

--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----

Haven't seen it. Don't intend to.

However, in the interests of fairness, here are 3 sites where you can watch
a short, 28-minute anti-Romney documentary (or Google and you'll find lots
more).
And no, it wasn't put out by Obama people, but by one of Newt's SuperPacs in
January.  So far, Obama's people haven't stooped to that.  Must be a
conservative thing.

And I haven't watched this one, either, and don't intend to.

http://theiowarepublican.com/2012/full-version-of-anti-romney-documen...

http://www.care2.com/causes/anti-romney-documentary-king-of-bain-now-...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/06/new-anti-romney-vide...


 
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:37:51 -0600
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Subject: Re: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?

"AnnieB"  wrote in message news:k1j47n$mdu$1@speranza.aioe.org...

On 8/28/2012 10:48 AM, Judy Haffner wrote:

Judy's ready for another political battle.

Since I'm anti-Romney and pro-Obama, I'm really not interested in seeing
it at all.  I'm sure all of the Obama haters will go wallow in the BS.

AnnieB

--------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----

+1

And that's my last response on this issue.  There's absolutely no sense in
trying to discuss politics in a rational manner in a newsgroup.


 
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 17:19:48 -0400
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Subject: Re: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 11:55:52 -0700, AnnieB <Ann...@privacy.net> wrote:

| Since I'm anti-Romney and pro-Obama, I'm really not interested in seeing
| it at all.  I'm sure all of the Obama haters will go wallow in the BS.

I wouldn't go to see an anti-Obama movie.  Or a pro one for that matter.  I don't
like him or Romney.

Larc


 
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:58:33 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Aug 28 2012 5:58 pm
Subject: Re: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?
On Aug 28, 10:55 am, AnnieB <Ann...@privacy.net> wrote:

What do you mean by "another political battle", Annie? I've not
started any political battles this year???!

> Since I'm anti-Romney and pro-Obama, I'm really not interested in seeing
> it at all.  I'm sure all of the Obama haters will go wallow in the BS.

> AnnieB

I'm opposite, of course, but I know how you feel as I felt the same
way when that one jerk came out with that movie about President Bush
before the election. I refused to go see it..think his name was
Michael Moore, or some such thing?

It might be good for anybody to see this new film, no matter if they
are anti, or pro...what do they have to lose, if their mind is already
set?

Judy


 
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From: Judy <gramma...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:02:02 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Aug 28 2012 6:02 pm
Subject: Re: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?
On Aug 28, 1:19 pm, Larc <l...@notmyaddress.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 11:55:52 -0700, AnnieB <Ann...@privacy.net> wrote:

> | Since I'm anti-Romney and pro-Obama, I'm really not interested in seeing
> | it at all.  I'm sure all of the Obama haters will go wallow in the BS.

> I wouldn't go to see an anti-Obama movie.  Or a pro one for that matter.  I don't
> like him or Romney.

> Larc

At this point, Larc.....I'm in the same "boat" as you. I'm not
satisfied with either candidate, so maybe we can do a write-in one? :)

I have very litle interest in this election, to be honest.

Judy


 
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 18:24:44 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?
On Aug 28, 12:10 pm, Susan <su...@nothanks.org> wrote:

Cuz nobody would want to see it just so they know what it says?  You
have to be racist and bigoted?  Wow...closed minded much?

 
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 18:32:10 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?
On Aug 28, 6:27 pm, Zob <zobva1    @   gmail.com> wrote:

Same as you libs did with MM's film...and yes, I've seen and I OWN it.

 
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:17:08 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Aug 28 2012 11:17 pm
Subject: Re: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?
On Aug 28, 11:55 am, AnnieB <Ann...@privacy.net> wrote:

Yea, how about that, if someone posted they wanted to see a movie that
bashed Sarah Palin she would not be very happy.

> Since I'm anti-Romney and pro-Obama, I'm really not interested in seeing
> it at all.  I'm sure all of the Obama haters will go wallow in the BS.

> AnnieB

Ditto that.....

 
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:23:22 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Aug 28 2012 11:23 pm
Subject: Re: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?
On Aug 28, 12:10 pm, Susan <su...@nothanks.org> wrote:

I could not agree more, if I wanted to see Obama get bashed I would
just watch FOX news for free or even worse read the posts from the
right wing wacko in the X-Factor group....

 
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:23:47 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?
On Aug 28, 12:37 pm, "Peahen" <peahen1...@gmail.com> wrote:

+2

 
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From: jhaff...@webtv.net (Judy Haffner)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:54:01 -0800
Local: Tues, Aug 28 2012 11:54 pm
Subject: Re: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?

L A Flash wrote:
>Yea, how about that, if someone posted
> they wanted to see a movie that bashed
> Sarah Palin she would not be very
> happy.

Oh, I didn't know you had taken up mind reading now in your spare time?
How can you make an assessment on what I think, or don't think? I really
hate being second guessed.

How do you know what the movie is going to show, or tell, without seeing
it? Anyone that is comfortable in their own skin concerning the
candidate of their own choice, shouldn't give a rat's behind what anyone
else says about them, should they? Would you even think about changing
your mind on who to vote for by going to a movie? I seriously think not.

I was curious whether anybody here had seen it yet and what their
opinions were, since it seems to be all over the news. I seriously doubt
it will come to one of our theaters, so I probably won't get to see it,
but I sure wouldn't be scared to go, nor would I expect it to change my
mind, as I knew my own mind 4 years ago, and I haven't changed my way of
thinking, believe you me!

As I said earlier to Larc, I'm not that satisfied with the Republican
choice either at this point, the same as 4 years ago, but I went with my
gut instinct, and have no regrets.

Judy


 
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:34:09 -0700
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Subject: Re: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?

"Zob" <zobva1 @ gmail.com> wrote in message
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It doesn't take a genius to figure out the difference between propaganda and
a true, unbiased, documentary.  I don't care who anyone supports, it sucks.
--
Moni

If the horse is dead...dismount.


 
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 04:32:03 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?
On Aug 28, 9:05 pm, jhaff...@webtv.net (Judy Haffner) wrote:

I'll buy that, good post I like your passion.
Have a great day.

 
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 05:48:48 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?

Why are you not satisfied with the choice? Who would you have run?
MJ

 
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:06:36 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Aug 29 2012 12:06 pm
Subject: Re: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?
On Aug 29, 4:48 am, "mjcicca...@gmail.com" <mjcicca...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I'm not really sure to be honest, as it seems like most of the
potential
republican presidential candidates didn't seem that strong. I do have
to say I am more impressed with Romney now, as I was at first, as he
is growing on me, as I continue to listen to him more, and learn what
he believes in and stands for. At least when I listen to him talk to
the people of this great country, I trust him and feel he is telling
the truth, which I haven't felt in a really long time, and I'm tired
of being lied to.

What is your thoughts on Mitt Romney?

Judy


 
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:21:30 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?

I like him. He is a business man and this country needs one.  I like his wife too, made a hell of a speech last night.
MJ

 
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:54:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?
On Aug 29, 8:21 am, "mjcicca...@gmail.com" <mjcicca...@gmail.com>
wrote:

My hubby and I both thought she was fantastic last night, and did such
a good job, especially since she's not a politician herself. She was
very charismatic!

Judy


 
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 10:51:20 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Aug 29 2012 1:51 pm
Subject: Re: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?
On Aug 29, 9:39 am, Susan <su...@nothanks.org> wrote:

> x-no-archive: yes

> http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_12/wallace_cha...

> “Governor Romney, you have changed your position in the last 10 years on
> abortion, on gay rights, on guns. You say keeping an open mind is a
> strength, but some of your critics say that every one of these moves has
> been to your political advantage. When you were running in
> Massachusetts, you took liberal positions. Running now as president, you
> take more conservative positions. Is that principle or is it just politics?”

> Susan

You belive anything you want, Susan. You are a Democrat, so I wouldn't
expect you to think any differently than you do about Romney. In fact,
I would be SHOCKED if you stated anything different.

Why would any person, that was sound of mind, vote for someone again,
after they've seen what he's accomplished (or in this case, NOT
accomplished) in the four years he's been in office. After being lied
to for four years, why would anyone wish more of the same for another
4 years? That's completely uncomprehensable. Lord know what this
country will possibly be like in four more years of the same?!

Just keep thinking the way you do until you go to the polls, but don't
expect anything different if Obama gets in for a second term. Heaven
forbid!

Judy


 
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 10:58:03 -0700
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Subject: Re: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 10:51:20 -0700 (PDT), Judy <gramma...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

That completely avoids Susan's point, which is that Romney's positions
keep changing to whatever is politically advantageous for him at the
moment.  Yet you feel like you've finally found a politician who is
telling you the truth (which is hilarious in of itself, as pretty much
all politicians lie through their teeth about everything).  Why do you
feel like he's so honest when he has a history of so much flip
flopping?

 
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Subject: Re: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?

Just a question...... Have you never changed your mind about anything?
MJ

 
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:29:15 -0700
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Subject: Re: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?
On 8/29/2012 9:06 AM, Judy wrote:

Sorry, I hit "reply" to this instead of "follow up", so it went to Judy
instead of the newsgroup.  Here it is again:

I don't trust him, and I don't like his self-serving attitude.  He's a
flip flopper and I think he's hiding something in those tax returns he
won't release.  I'm not saying he broke any law, but I don't think a
truly patriotic American should be stashing his money in overseas tax
shelters. He knows nothing about foreign affairs, he's not disclosed
anything about what his policies would be other than his ever changing
views on abortion in cases of incest or rape, and that he'd abolish
Obamacare, which is nothing more than Romneycare.  I am against the
proposed changes in Medicare. I'm also against proposed tax breaks for
the wealthy, especially at the expense of programs for the poor.

I don't like that he accuses Obama of running a campaign of hate, when
some of the most hateful comments have come from his camp.  Jump all
over Obama for the windmill on the top of the car joke, but make a snide
remark about never being asked to show his birth certificate?  Tell me
why the first is more hateful than the latter!

I don't believe he normally buys his shirts in 3-packs from Costco. Just
another of his little ploys.

I'm not particularly happy with Obama's performance, or lack of it, but
I still feel he's the one who cares the most for his country, which
happens to be the USA, and its poor and middle class.  The Birthers, the
Tea Party and the Obama haters, along with John Boehner, Mitch
McConnell, Michelle Bachman (I could name a few other crazies) have
turned me completely against from the Republican Party. Too bad Jon
Huntsman dropped out of the race.  In my opinion, he was the most honest
and sane of any of them.

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The_Chris  
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 More options Aug 29 2012, 5:17 pm
Newsgroups: alt.tv.american-idol
From: The_Chris <cab...@nospam.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 21:17:06 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Wed, Aug 29 2012 5:17 pm
Subject: Re: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:58:33 -0700, Judy wrote:

> I'm opposite, of course, but I know how you feel as I felt the same way
> when that one jerk came out with that movie about President Bush before
> the election. I refused to go see it..think his name was Michael Moore,
> or some such thing?

You don't know who Michael Moore is?  You MUST have your head in the
sand! His movies are required watching!

 
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 More options Aug 29 2012, 6:00 pm
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From: Bigolhomo <noth...@nothing.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:00:13 -0700
Local: Wed, Aug 29 2012 6:00 pm
Subject: Re: OT/ Planning To Go See "2016 Obama's American"?
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 21:17:06 +0000 (UTC), The_Chris

<cab...@nospam.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:58:33 -0700, Judy wrote:

>> I'm opposite, of course, but I know how you feel as I felt the same way
>> when that one jerk came out with that movie about President Bush before
>> the election. I refused to go see it..think his name was Michael Moore,
>> or some such thing?

>You don't know who Michael Moore is?  You MUST have your head in the
>sand! His movies are required watching!

Yeah, because they're not biased at all, unlike the Obama movie.

 
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