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Kyla

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Jul 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/18/99
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wow..

I think I can say that's the first S James post I've ever agreed with
100%

Wish it weren't on such a sad topic.

Hope you're having a great summer too, S.

Kyla

On Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:02:31 GMT, 71756...@compuserve.com (S.James)
wrote:

>
>No, I'm not dead. Though I was in a car accident about a month ago
>that was not pretty.
>
>Just a couple points. I live and work about 15 minutes from the
>Kennedy Compound, so the news about John Jr's plane crash hit close to
>home this weekend. Anyone who's familiar with my political views from
>this or the other newsgroup, knows that I'm polar opposites
>(politically) from the Kennedy clan. And having grown up pretty close
>to them, I've seen first hand the extent of their hypocrisy,
>especially Uncle Teddy and John's Jr's cousin Joe. Having said all
>that, however, I feel really bad about this latest tragedy. About two
>summers ago, I was with some friends at one of my favorite bars in
>Hyannis and John Jr. was there with some of his friends. (We were
>sitting at adjacent tables.) I only exchanged hellos with him and
>shook hands, but in that hour or two in which I saw him, he came
>across as a very genuine, down to earth, and not at all phony person.
>Given his background, wealth, and good looks, etc, that brief though
>lasting impression was a pleasant surprise. I've always remembered
>that encounter whenever I've seen him since on TV or in the news. For
>whatever it's worth, I think he was a decent person with a limitless
>potential to do good and I feel terrible about his death.
>
>I think it's also important not to forget that two other people died
>in that plane crash. John Jr's wife went to the same college as me,
>though a few years earlier, and though I never met her, I really hope
>that her death isn't overshadowed by her husband's. The same goes for
>Carolyn's sister. While everyone is feeling bad about another Kennedy
>tragedy, think about the Bessette family who lost two daughters at
>once.
>
>Finally, it would be nice if the news media occasionally reminded
>people that there are fatal small plane crashes everyday which never
>make it to the news. All of this attention that's being given to John
>Jr. is probably justified given the public's interest, but it's
>important to remember that his life isn't any more precious or
>valuable just because his last name is Kennedy.
>
>That's really all I wanted to say. I hope all you guys are doing well
>and are having a great summer.
>
>
>Later,
>
>S.James

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denise

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Jul 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/18/99
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Kyla wrote

>wow..
>
>I think I can say that's the first S James post I've ever agreed with
>100%


That makes two of us....<well wonders never cease>;0


Denise

Conduit

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Jul 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/18/99
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Kyla <kyla.l...@home.net> wrote in message
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> wow..
>
> I think I can say that's the first S James post I've ever agreed with
> 100%

Hell, it might might be the first S James post I've ever agreed with 3%

Gary
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of 'em are dumber than THAT."
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Mike H.

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Jul 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/18/99
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"S.James" wrote:
>
> No, I'm not dead. Though I was in a car accident about a month ago
> that was not pretty.

Noooo!! Not the Jeep! Seriously, hope you're OK.


<snip rest>

I have to agree with all that you have said. All accounts say that John
Jr. was a really likable guy. And the Bessette family losing two
daughters really brings home what a tragedy this was.

And just to get a brief political dig in here :) - just how many
speeches are we going to get from Billy? I mean, I certainly can expect
to see him pay homage to the family that has had a marked impact on his
political party. But enough is enough already.


--
Mike

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Someone improvises it
Life is so much cleaner on the page"

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LQ/JQ

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Jul 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/19/99
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"S.James" wrote:

>
> Just a couple points. I live and work about 15 minutes from the
> Kennedy Compound, so the news about John Jr's plane crash hit close to
> home this weekend. Anyone who's familiar with my political views from
> this or the other newsgroup, knows that I'm polar opposites
> (politically) from the Kennedy clan. And having grown up pretty close
> to them, I've seen first hand the extent of their hypocrisy,
> especially Uncle Teddy and John's Jr's cousin Joe. Having said all
> that, however, I feel really bad about this latest tragedy. About two
> summers ago, I was with some friends at one of my favorite bars in
> Hyannis and John Jr. was there with some of his friends. (We were
> sitting at adjacent tables.) I only exchanged hellos with him and
> shook hands, but in that hour or two in which I saw him, he came
> across as a very genuine, down to earth, and not at all phony person.
> Given his background, wealth, and good looks, etc, that brief though
> lasting impression was a pleasant surprise. I've always remembered
> that encounter whenever I've seen him since on TV or in the news. For
> whatever it's worth, I think he was a decent person with a limitless
> potential to do good and I feel terrible about his death.

Another cousin, Anthony Shriver (Maria Shriver Swartzennager's brother),
lives in Miami Beach with his wife and two little daughters. He is super
handsome, very tall with beautiful features. But he is also a
down-to-earth part of the community here, involved in public service to
boot. His girls go to ballet class with my daughter, and he or his wife
seem like great parents. He runs a charity called Best Buddies, which
benefits mentally handicapped kids, and he doesn't do it in a "just for
publicity" way.
I suppose it's like most families, where some cousins are good, and some
are bad sheep. The Kennedy family just has their dramas in a
larger-than-life way.
Laura


Deb

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Jul 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/19/99
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l...@rhythmfoundation.com wrote:

> I suppose it's like most families, where some cousins are good, and
some
> are bad sheep

Like Brandon and Valerie!

-- deb --
sorry.


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J. Buckley

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Jul 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/19/99
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"Mike H." wrote:

> And just to get a brief political dig in here :) - just how many
> speeches are we going to get from Billy? I mean, I certainly can expect
> to see him pay homage to the family that has had a marked impact on his
> political party. But enough is enough already.

Oh leave the guy alone already! You should be happy enough that he got
impeached. If Ronald Reagan had enough of his mind intact to make a shit
load of speeches about it I doubt you'd be complaining.

But what is going to annoy me even more than you using any chance you can
at badmouthing the president is going to be the inevitable Elton John
re-written song for John-John.


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--S.M.

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Mike. H.

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Jul 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/19/99
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J. Buckley wrote in message <3793A897...@pressroom.com>...

>
>
>"Mike H." wrote:
>
>> And just to get a brief political dig in here :) - just how many
>> speeches are we going to get from Billy? I mean, I certainly can expect
>> to see him pay homage to the family that has had a marked impact on his
>> political party. But enough is enough already.
>
>Oh leave the guy alone already! You should be happy enough that he got
>impeached.

What exactly did the impeachment amount to again?

>If Ronald Reagan had enough of his mind intact to make a shit
>load of speeches about it I doubt you'd be complaining.

Actually, you're wrong there. If the then President Reagan used this
incident to mug as much air time as Slick Willy is, I'd be just as annoyed.
I want the President presiding, not making goddamn speeches every 2 hours.

>But what is going to annoy me even more than you using any chance you can
>at badmouthing the president

Hold on now, I hardly think you are in a position to be making statements
such as these. But I think you and I have covered this ground before.

C'mon - didn't even you find it laughable when Bill was taking pot shots at
G.W. Bush's "Compassionate Conservatism"? As if it is somehow any different
than "I feel your pain".


> is going to be the inevitable Elton John re-written song for John-John.

Bite your tongue.


Mike

J. Buckley

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Jul 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/19/99
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"Mike. H." wrote:

> What exactly did the impeachment amount to again?

Well, we're really not going to go there again.

> >If Ronald Reagan had enough of his mind intact to make a shit
> >load of speeches about it I doubt you'd be complaining.
>
> Actually, you're wrong there. If the then President Reagan used this
> incident to mug as much air time as Slick Willy is, I'd be just as annoyed.
> I want the President presiding, not making goddamn speeches every 2 hours.

Hhhhmmmm, if you wanted him presiding... Oh right, I'm not going there again.

> >But what is going to annoy me even more than you using any chance you can
> >at badmouthing the president
>
> Hold on now, I hardly think you are in a position to be making statements
> such as these. But I think you and I have covered this ground before.

Come on now, I've never known you to pass up a chance to say something bad
about Clinton, or me about Reagan for that matter. Does that mean it doesn't
annoy each other?

> C'mon - didn't even you find it laughable when Bill was taking pot shots at
> G.W. Bush's "Compassionate Conservatism"? As if it is somehow any different
> than "I feel your pain".

The thing is, "Compassionate Conservative" is an oxymoron. It's just
rhetorical spin to try to woo the moderates over, kinda like the term "Reagan
Democrat." And whether or not Bill feels any pain but his own aside, he still
has that bizarre charm to be able to pull it off a lot better than George W.
trying to call himself compassionate.

> > is going to be the inevitable Elton John re-written song for John-John.
>
> Bite your tongue.

Oh, you know somebody is going to write a really lame song. I hope this time
at least it's an original.

J. Buckley

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Jul 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/19/99
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"S.James" wrote:

> That's not true Denise. We both feel the same way about our white
> trash, hillbilly, scum bag president.

I knew the kinder gentler S James was too good to be true.

Hello Nasty/Right Wing Pigeons 2000

J. Buckley

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Jul 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/19/99
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"S.James" wrote:

> One final thing... the news media is going to make us all hate John
> John by the time the funeral is over, which would be really sad since
> he was the best of the Kennedys. Do we really need 24 hour a day
> coverage? The guy is dead. Let him rest in peace.

The news media or Elton John!

Ellen

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Jul 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/20/99
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J. Buckley wrote:

>> > is going to be the inevitable Elton John re-written song for John-John.
>>
>> Bite your tongue.
>
>Oh, you know somebody is going to write a really lame song. I hope this
>time
>at least it's an original.

Actually, I *did* hear something in passing on the news about another verse
being added to "Abraham, Martin, and John" beginning thus: "Has anybody here
seen my old friend John-John...."

Ellen
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get sticky about it."
--Anne Blythe to Joan Crawford, "Mildred Pierce" (1945)


Todd Kempf

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Jul 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/20/99
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"S.James" wrote:
>
> I think it's also important not to forget that two other people died
> in that plane crash. John Jr's wife went to the same college as me,
> though a few years earlier, and though I never met her, I really hope
> that her death isn't overshadowed by her husband's. The same goes for
> Carolyn's sister. While everyone is feeling bad about another Kennedy
> tragedy, think about the Bessette family who lost two daughters at
> once.

Well put, S.James. Especially the last sentence.

Todd
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Mike. H.

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Jul 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/20/99
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S.James <71756...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
<3796c22d....@enews.newsguy.com>...
>On Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:00:41 -0600, "Mike H." <mha...@micron.net>
>wrote:

>
>>"S.James" wrote:
>>>
>>> No, I'm not dead. Though I was in a car accident about a month ago
>>> that was not pretty.
>>
>>Noooo!! Not the Jeep! Seriously, hope you're OK.
>
>My Jeep came through it like a champ.

That's good to know. Especially in light of the large population of fuckwits
who are able to obtain drivers licenses around here.

> Certainly better than I did, or
>the piece of crap Lexus that cut me off. One good thing did come out
>of the accident however. . . my insurance company is paying for me to
>visit a gorgeous Norwegian masseuse twice a week.

Damn, that's some awesome shit.

>Well, after having said all those nice things about John Jr., I think
>there may come a time in the upcoming investigation when we might have
>to conclude that he should not have been flying that plane on that
>route at night given his lack of experience.

Oh, its already been reported that John Jr. had no business flying.
Apparently he was nowhere near qualified for IFR flight. As you may (or may
not) know I used to live around those parts and spent many a summer day
boating off the North Shore of Long Island. I know exactly the kind of
conditions they have described. I can't imagine having to fly a plane
through that crap at night with no instrument experience.

> If/when that time comes,
>it'll merely reinforce the belief that the Kennedy men have a reckless
>disregard for life (their own and others).

I think this may have been one of those bad judgement/ego things. It seems
that he may have been running late and decided to chance it. The weather
reports didn't indicate any problems.


><Trying again to have less people agree with me around here. It's
>getting kind of creepy.)

Hey, me too!

Mike

Mike. H.

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Jul 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/20/99
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J. Buckley wrote in message <3793D2E8...@pressroom.com>...

>
>
>"Mike. H." wrote:
>
>> What exactly did the impeachment amount to again?
>
>Well, we're really not going to go there again.

OK. Probably a good idea. :)

>> I want the President presiding, not making goddamn speeches every 2
hours.
>
>Hhhhmmmm, if you wanted him presiding...

Yes, presiding. Not letting some psycho chick play with his pee pee in the
Oral Office while discussing foreign policy. Then again, being married to
Hilary blow jobs may have been foreign to him. :D

> Oh right, I'm not going there again.


Oops.

>Come on now, I've never known you to pass up a chance to say something bad
>about Clinton, or me about Reagan for that matter. Does that mean it
doesn't
>annoy each other?

Nope. We both equally share in the right to be annoyed. ;-) BTW, I hear
that president Reagan has really gone down hill. I wonder if her will be # 2
in the next death triumvirate.

>The thing is, "Compassionate Conservative" is an oxymoron.

Not really. I consider myself to be compassionate - when people have shown
to be worthy of said compassion. I can empathize with people who work hard
to achieve something and can't seem to catch a break. It's those who sit on
their ass and bleed the system dry that draw my ire.

> It's just
>rhetorical spin to try to woo the moderates over, kinda like the term
"Reagan
>Democrat." And whether or not Bill feels any pain but his own aside, he
still
>has that bizarre charm to be able to pull it off a lot better than George
W.
>trying to call himself compassionate.

Uh oh. I think I agree here. Clearly, it is just some political slogan. I
guess we'll find out what it really means when G.W. beats Bill Bradley in
the Presidential Election. Unfortunately, my guy - John Kasich dropped out
when faced with the Bush political machine. I really like Orrin Hatch too,
but I think the fact that he is LDS is somehow going to work against him
outside of my home state.

Mike

S John M

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Jul 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/20/99
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In these excerpts from "Re: Checking In" "Mike. H."
<mha...@micron.net> wrote:


>>Oh leave the guy alone already! You should be happy enough that he got
>>impeached.
>

>What exactly did the impeachment amount to again?

I lucrative series of specials on MS-NBC I believe.

S. John

Ellen

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Jul 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/20/99
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Mike wrote:

>BTW, I hear
>that president Reagan has really gone down hill. I wonder if her will be
># 2
>in the next death triumvirate.

Actually, he'd be #1 in a new death triumvirate. The John-John tragedy is a
death triumvirate in and of itself: John-John, Mrs. John-John, and her sister.

Mike. H.

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Jul 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/20/99
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Ellen wrote in message <19990720143142...@ng-fh1.aol.com>...

>Mike wrote:
>
>>BTW, I hear
>>that president Reagan has really gone down hill. I wonder if her will be
>># 2
>>in the next death triumvirate.
>
>Actually, he'd be #1 in a new death triumvirate. The John-John tragedy is a
>death triumvirate in and of itself: John-John, Mrs. John-John, and her
sister.


Hmmm.... Can we get an official ruling on this? Do deaths in threes have to
be all in separate instances, or does one event suffice? Perhaps we should
create a sub-class strictly for the one event - three death thing, that way
it won't end up affecting this group's morbid habit of pari-mutuel betting
on the deaths of famous people.


Mike

Deb

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Jul 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/20/99
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Mike. H. wrote...
>Ellen wrote...
>>Mike wrote...

>>
>>>BTW, I hear
>>>that president Reagan has really gone down hill. I wonder if her will be
>>># 2
>>>in the next death triumvirate.
>>
>>Actually, he'd be #1 in a new death triumvirate. The John-John tragedy is
a
>>death triumvirate in and of itself: John-John, Mrs. John-John, and her
>sister.
>
>Hmmm.... Can we get an official ruling on this? Do deaths in threes have
to
>be all in separate instances, or does one event suffice? Perhaps we should
>create a sub-class strictly for the one event - three death thing, that way
>it won't end up affecting this group's morbid habit of pari-mutuel betting
>on the deaths of famous people.

I was wondering that too. I would say at first glance that it would count as
its triumvirate. But then, Lauren Besette really wasn't in the public eye,
either. But by association in death, she is in the public eye now.

So my vote goes to - the death triumvirate is complete. If Reagan kicks,
it'll be number one, like Ellen said.

Also, you heard it here first - Walter Matthau is going down fast.

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J. Buckley

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Deb wrote:

> Also, you heard it here first - Walter Matthau is going down fast.

Now that's a damn shame! If he had to have an old actor in the White House,
Matthau would have done a much better job than the Gipper, especially with Jack
Lemmon as VP.

And if we're going to make a death pool, what about Tony Randall? The guy's
pushing 80 with a wife in her 20's. Add the obvious viagra prescription and
he's a heart attack waiting to happen.

Deb

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Jul 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/20/99
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J. Buckley wrote...

>Deb wrote:
>
>> Also, you heard it here first - Walter Matthau is going down fast.
>
>Now that's a damn shame! If he had to have an old actor in the White
House,
>Matthau would have done a much better job than the Gipper, especially with
Jack
>Lemmon as VP.
>
>And if we're going to make a death pool, what about Tony Randall? The
guy's
>pushing 80 with a wife in her 20's. Add the obvious viagra prescription
and
>he's a heart attack waiting to happen.

I dunno, I think Tony Randall's gonna outlive us all. He's living the good
life and seems in good shape. Hmmm...I haven't thought about the death pool
in awhile. Someone should archive these threads for future reference
(calling S John!).

I know J and I have a bet going about Andy Dick. I say he doesn't last
another year. Ed Koch also seems to aging rapidly. Is Bob Hope still alive?

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NT Guy

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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Deb <d...@freakgirl-NO-SPAM.com> wrote in on a hand cranked Lucent PC:


> Also, you heard it here first - Walter Matthau is going down fast.
>

I heard a story about this as well, and it struck me that Mathau is one of
those actors who never really grabs the limelight, even though he's shaped
film and television for generations, and made a real impact in the way
anyone delivers a comeback line today. A friend of mine once said his face
was like a unmade bed, unattractive, yet really inviting. That's a perfect
description.

2 cents...


m i c h a e l
twostepsforwardonestepback.

Deb

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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NT Guy wrote...

Oh, I love Walter Matthau. As he got older, he became one of the ugliest men
I've ever seen. But ugly in that so-ugly-that-he's-adorable way.

He was so funny in "Grumpy Old Men," too.

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Mike. H.

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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Deb wrote in message <7n3f0i$j06$1...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
>J. Buckley wrote...

>>Now that's a damn shame! If he had to have an old actor in the White
House,
>>Matthau would have done a much better job than the Gipper, especially with
>>Jack Lemmon as VP.

But we already have the Odd Couple in the White House. ;-)

>I know J and I have a bet going about Andy Dick

Isn't this the guy from NewsRadio? I'm curious as to why you think he may
die. Is he heavily into drugs or something?

Mike

CJ

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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S.James wrote:

>No, I'm not dead. Though I was in a car accident about a month ago
>that was not pretty.

As one answer to Melroseman's recent question, which I didn't get around to
replying to in public, this kind of thing scares me. Enough said.

I'm reminded of a particularly memorable post by Kyla towards the end of
last year, making the point about how tenuous our connections with this
group are. As she said, never forget that people here care about one
another.
[With perhaps the exception of Mike and J., and with Kelroy and Elizabeth,
it's more of a love/hate thing. ;) Hmm, now I come to think of it there's
probably yet more exceptions. But you get the general idea.]

<snip good points about the plane crash>

I'm glad you added your perspective - I hadn't forgotten that you live so
close.

I was watching the pictures today (one of our channels was taking a feed
straight from the US) of the cutter with family members on approaching the
ship. It was quite surreal.


CJ

CJ

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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Mike. H. wrote:

>S.James wrote:

>><Trying again to have less people agree with me around here. It's
>>getting kind of creepy.)

>Hey, me too!

I disagree...


CJ

CJ

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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S.James wrote:

>My Jeep came through it like a champ. Certainly better than I did, or


>the piece of crap Lexus that cut me off. One good thing did come out
>of the accident however. . . my insurance company is paying for me to
>visit a gorgeous Norwegian masseuse twice a week.

Hmph. ;) Do you think they'd pay for me to come over there and try my hand
at it? Of course, the Norwegian would have to go back to Norway, but I'm
sure that wouldn't be a problem.


CJ

<leaving out the bad joke about practice making perfect.>

CJ

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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Ellen wrote:

>>Actually, he'd be #1 in a new death triumvirate. The John-John tragedy is
>>a death triumvirate in and of itself: John-John, Mrs. John-John, and her
>>sister.

Question: why is it "John-John" all the time? Is it just his nickname?


CJ


CJ

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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Deb, and J, wrote:

<snip a lot of predictions>

Can I finally say that I think this whole ongoing 'Death Pool' thing is
completely tasteless? There, I said it. Sure, go ahead with it, it's not
like anything should be censored, but I think it's just too weird.

Imagine if someone here had mentioned John Kennedy Jr. a year ago. Would
you be cheering now because you were right?


CJ

mcurrans

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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Not to mention he's got a kid to chase around - hell I'm 31, in decent shape - and
Abbey still gives me a heart attack a week. Of course - Felix probably has a Nanny
or two to keep an eye on his little one...

Welby

"J. Buckley" wrote:

> Deb wrote:
>
> > Also, you heard it here first - Walter Matthau is going down fast.
>

> Now that's a damn shame! If he had to have an old actor in the White House,
> Matthau would have done a much better job than the Gipper, especially with Jack
> Lemmon as VP.
>

> And if we're going to make a death pool, what about Tony Randall? The guy's
> pushing 80 with a wife in her 20's. Add the obvious viagra prescription and
> he's a heart attack waiting to happen.
>

mcurrans

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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Well that depends - if money was placed - then yes - I'd be cheering. Call me
a callous bastard, but I really don't care that he died. I mean, it's tragic
and all, but I didn't know they guy - he was not part of my family, nor was he
my friend - and millions of people die every day and they don't get roses on
their door steps, or 24 hour news coverage, or songs written about them (or
re-written). Live goes on, it's a constant cycle of death, and birth - and if
I can make money off of famous people dying - then all the better for me! I
wouldn't hold a grudge if someone put me in a death pool - and were happy when
I kicked.

Welby - once more adding my 2¢ worth......

Deb

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CJ wrote...

John-John was what his parents called him as a child. Since most of America
watched the poor guy grow up in the public eye, people still call him that.
It would have really pissed me off if it were me.

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J. Buckley

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CJ wrote:

> I'm reminded of a particularly memorable post by Kyla towards the end of
> last year, making the point about how tenuous our connections with this
> group are. As she said, never forget that people here care about one
> another.
> [With perhaps the exception of Mike and J.,

Oh, just because I disagree with Mike on a semi-daily basis doesn't mean I
don't like him. Other people I disagree with often might be a whole other
story though

J. Buckley

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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"Mike. H." wrote:

> But we already have the Odd Couple in the White House. ;-)

I think that might be the nicest thing you've ever said about Bill and Al. I
could see Bill making a big mess and Al chsing him around with a can of Lysol.
Oh, and the bickering! It would make a great SNL skit

J. Buckley

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CJ wrote:

> Question: why is it "John-John" all the time? Is it just his nickname?

Yep, that's what they called him when he was a kid and it stuck.

Kyla

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On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:18:48 -0400, "Deb" <d...@freakgirl-NO-SPAM.com>
wrote:

>CJ wrote...


>>Question: why is it "John-John" all the time? Is it just his nickname?
>

>John-John was what his parents called him as a child. Since most of America
>watched the poor guy grow up in the public eye, people still call him that.
>It would have really pissed me off if it were me.

Actually, it wasn't. A reporter made it up. His family never called
him John-John. It was just so cute that it stuck. (according to this
week's Newsweek.)

Kyla
...grieving
_____________
Email address is disguised for confidentiality.
If you know my last name, fill it in: kyla.l...@home.net

If you don't, reply-to kyl...@hotmail.com

LQ/JQ

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CJ wrote:

> Imagine if someone here had mentioned John Kennedy Jr. a year ago. Would
> you be cheering now because you were right?

No, I'd be mailing my resume to the Star!
Laura


Deb

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Mike. H. wrote...
>Deb wrote...

>>I know J and I have a bet going about Andy Dick
>
>Isn't this the guy from NewsRadio? I'm curious as to why you think he may
>die. Is he heavily into drugs or something?

He was recently busted. Plus he was partying with David Strickland when he
committed suicide, and he is a frequent guest on Howard Stern, where he is
usually really messed up.

--
* d e b b i e *

Deb

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Jul 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/23/99
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CJ wrote...

>Deb, and J, wrote:
>
><snip a lot of predictions>
>
>Can I finally say that I think this whole ongoing 'Death Pool' thing is
>completely tasteless? There, I said it. Sure, go ahead with it, it's not
>like anything should be censored, but I think it's just too weird.
>
>Imagine if someone here had mentioned John Kennedy Jr. a year ago. Would
>you be cheering now because you were right?

Well, CJ, yes, it is pretty tasteless. But it's sort of a popular thing to
do here - if you look up "Death Pool" on the internet you'll find a ton of
sites. If you really think about it, yes, it's gross, but I can definitely
see the humor in it.

If I had picked JFK Jr., I'd be rolling in money right now.

--
* d e b b i e *

feeling bad now

* d e b *

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Kyla wrote...

>On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:18:48 -0400, "Deb" <d...@freakgirl-NO-SPAM.com>
>wrote:
>
>>CJ wrote...
>>>Question: why is it "John-John" all the time? Is it just his nickname?
>>
>>John-John was what his parents called him as a child. Since most of
America
>>watched the poor guy grow up in the public eye, people still call him
that.
>>It would have really pissed me off if it were me.
>
>Actually, it wasn't. A reporter made it up. His family never called
>him John-John. It was just so cute that it stuck. (according to this
>week's Newsweek.)

Really? I stand corrected.

Thanks for the info.

--
* d e b b i e *

learning new things every day

MELROSEMAN

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LQ/JQ wrote:

>
> CJ wrote:
>
> > Imagine if someone here had mentioned John Kennedy Jr. a year ago. Would
> > you be cheering now because you were right?
>
> No, I'd be mailing my resume to the Star!
> Laura

I'd recommend: Laura's Psychic Friends Network

Hire us! Hire us!

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CJ

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Jul 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/25/99
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J. Buckley wrote:

>CJ wrote:
>
>> I'm reminded of a particularly memorable post by Kyla towards the end of
>> last year, making the point about how tenuous our connections with this
>> group are. As she said, never forget that people here care about one
>> another.
>> [With perhaps the exception of Mike and J.,
>
>Oh, just because I disagree with Mike on a semi-daily basis doesn't mean I
>don't like him.

I know, I know. I was just kidding. I should think you both get quite a
lot out of the debates.

>Other people I disagree with often might be a whole other story though

Oh, don't be horrid. :-p You won't get to come on the field trip if you
can't play nicely. Now there's a threat!


CJ

CJ

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Jul 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/25/99
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Kyla wrote:

>"Deb" <d...@freakgirl-NO-SPAM.com> wrote:
>
>>CJ wrote...
>>>Question: why is it "John-John" all the time? Is it just his nickname?
>>
>>John-John was what his parents called him as a child.

>Actually, it wasn't. A reporter made it up. His family never called


>him John-John. It was just so cute that it stuck. (according to this
>week's Newsweek.)

Thankyou, lay-deez. And J. too.


CJ

CJ

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Jul 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/25/99
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Deb wrote

>CJ wrote...

>>Can I finally say that I think this whole ongoing 'Death Pool' thing is
>>completely tasteless?

>Well, CJ, yes, it is pretty tasteless. But it's sort of a popular thing to


>do here - if you look up "Death Pool" on the internet you'll find a ton of
>sites. If you really think about it, yes, it's gross, but I can definitely
>see the humor in it.

Ah, you're all (in this thread) a bunch of ghouls. But you're friendly
ghouls, so I guess I still like you. :)


CJ

LQ/JQ

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Jul 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/26/99
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MELROSEMAN wrote:

> I'd recommend: Laura's Psychic Friends Network
>
> Hire us! Hire us!

Why thank you! But, I already knew you were going to post this?

Why don't we have a Psychic Pool amongst ourselves, and make predictions for
what will happen to us in the next six months?
Laura


deb

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Jul 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/26/99
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LQ/JQ wrote...

>Why don't we have a Psychic Pool amongst ourselves, and make predictions
for
>what will happen to us in the next six months?

OK, here's mine:

1) I will complain about my job every day, but will never get motivated
enough to find a new one.
2) I will finally lose those pesky 10 pounds, only to have them come back
double onto my thighs.
3) I will meet Ben Affleck in Red Bank and he will become hypnotized by my
charm and wit.
4) Ben will do an interview with People Magazine where he claims to like
girls with big thighs.
5) Ben will dump me for Britney Spears.
6) You will all ban me from the newsgroup for becoming so bitter about Ben
and Britney.
7) I will win my Death Pool Andy Dick bet from J and will be happy again.
8) S. John will move to New Jersey, learn how to drink gin with me and never
be heard from again.
9) I will join the cast of The Real World.


--
* d e b b i e *

welcome, to fantasy island

S John M

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In these excerpts from "Re: Death Pool" "J. Buckley"
<j.bu...@pressroom.com> wrote:


>I think that might be the nicest thing you've ever said about Bill and Al. I
>could see Bill making a big mess and Al chsing him around with a can of Lysol.
>Oh, and the bickering! It would make a great SNL skit

Does anybody actually even watch SNL anymore? I don't think I've
seen it in YEARS.

S. John

S John M

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In these excerpts from "Re: Death Pool" "deb"
<d...@freakgirl-NO-SPAM.com> wrote:


>7) I will win my Death Pool Andy Dick bet from J and will be happy again.

You know I had to do the IMDB thing to figure out which one was
Andy Dick... I was thinking Joe not Matthew which, in a very
personal way, I'd think A. Dick would be ideal considering what a
dish Joe is. Anyhow, I further then imagined Joe from News Radio
and the dead guy from Suddenly Susan "partying together" and am
altogether ashamed of what popped to mind. Now, it's too hard to
imagine MATTHEW from News Radio having a life; I mean Andy, the
actor/person still, well, LOOKS like that and all and has *that*
sniveling whiny voice.

>8) S. John will move to New Jersey, learn how to drink gin with me and never
>be heard from again.

Gin IS one of the things in a Long Island Iced Tea right? Mix up
a vat of it and I'll be on my way. At this point, in the name of
taking inventory of my life, excessive spending, and fantasy
lifestyle I've already given up all but one ANALOG (ewww) phone
line and e-mail (and a VW, and a bachelors's apt, and my ultra
"S. John" style coffee table too if you get down too it) so it's
like being heard from for me is getting more and more
complicated. All I need is a nudge to go the rest of the way and
become someone's kept concubine who can also do math, clean,
create newsgroups, assemble furniture, fold pesky lawn chairs,
get lost on the NYC subway system AND LIVE TO TELL ABOUT IT.
Sidebar #1: NOT having my mobile phone has been an adventure... I
mean nearly ALL of my genuinely fulfilling conversations seem to
have happened when I was driving. Sidebar #2: I redid my resume
and I'm having issues of great proportion attempting to indicate
USENET comprehension on it somehow with out looking like a total
nutcase.

>9) I will join the cast of The Real World.

"The Real World: Jersey" Somehow I like it. Unfortunately for
both of us though, it'd have to be the VH-1 version since
according to MTV, we're both-- too-- OLD-- ugggggg-- for MTV now.
I felt soooo bad for Romy and Michelle.

S. John


Oh.... my predictions:

1. Jackson will make friends with the wild rabbit family that
lives UNDER my father's "playhouse" (where she lives now) and
will do the rabbit equivalent of Cartman's Cat and there will
soon be a hybrid version of Dutch/NC-brown bunny and there will
be MANY of them at Dad's and Mom's house.

2. I will finally buy some clothes.

3. I'll move again... North. Maybe West... probably North. I'm
all kind of conflicted but I gotta admit the idea of getting to
be all un anchored and fancy free here for the next few months is
really appealing.

4. Without pressure cooker work stress and spiraled out of
control financial commitments, I'll be much more relaxed.

5. Al will continue to amaze me by being the friend he's always
been-- there's just too much personal stuff there that isn't just
my business so I can't really go into it here but suffice to say
even WITH all the major stuff from the past couple of months his
true colors have shined. I'm really blessed with the people in my
life and having a the chance here to breath and take stock, many
of You (Deb, Kelly, Kyla, & J. especially), My parents, Mark,
and, yes, Al are people I really value. I never considered myself
a "people person" and getting introspective about it, I'm utterly
amazed at kind of people that voluntarily remain a part of my
screwed up life.

6. Sex.

7. I'm going to end up driving that goddamn Pontiac P.O.S. again.

I can't think of any more at the moment.
S. John, again.

J. Buckley

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S John M wrote:

> Does anybody actually even watch SNL anymore? I don't think I've
> seen it in YEARS.

Come to think of it, neither have I, but a big part of that is the fact that I get
pretty bad reception on NBC. The other part is all the time they waste on
super-lame musical guests. Oh yeah, and the whole part about their sketches just
going on and on and not stopping when they're ahead (unlike Mad TV who with a half
hour less tend to not drag the sketches out to death).

J. Buckley

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deb wrote:

> LQ/JQ wrote...
>
> >Why don't we have a Psychic Pool amongst ourselves, and make predictions
> for
> >what will happen to us in the next six months?
>
> OK, here's mine:
>
> 1) I will complain about my job every day, but will never get motivated
> enough to find a new one.

Trust me, when it gets bad enough, you'll do something about it. I've been on
my new job 3 weeks today and I was ready to quit on the spot without even having
something new lined up. But I have that interview tomorrow after work so I'm
all sorts of pumped! I'm hoping this could be my shortest stint ever working
for The Man.

So, I guess these would be my predictions for the year:
1) Getting the job o' my dreams and working it like a madman
2) Being in a good relationship
3) Andy Dick continually getting worse until Ben Stiller, Jeanine Garafolo and
Bob Odenkirk have an intervention on him on the day my bet with Deb ends
4) Catching Ween live at least twice, hopefully more
5) Public opinion of the republicans dropping off the scales
6) A bunch of kids setting fires at some huge millennium party
7) A pro wrestler or possibly Vince McMahon officially putting his hat in the
presidential ring
8) Ricky Martin torn limb from limb by over-eager fans
9) Mulder and Skully will kiss, but once again it'll be explained away due to
some weirdness

Ellen

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Jul 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/27/99
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S. John wrote:

>Does anybody actually even watch SNL anymore? I don't think I've
>seen it in YEARS.

The last time I saw SNL was around Christmas time -- the one with "Schweddy
Balls," which was a scream. I usually watch/tape Mad TV, though, because most
of the time it's funnier.

Ellen
----<---<--<@
"I love you too, Mother, but let's not
get sticky about it."
--Anne Blythe to Joan Crawford, "Mildred Pierce" (1945)


MELROSEMAN

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LQ/JQ wrote:
>
> MELROSEMAN wrote:
>
> > I'd recommend: Laura's Psychic Friends Network
> >
> > Hire us! Hire us!
>
> Why thank you! But, I already knew you were going to post this?
>
> Why don't we have a Psychic Pool amongst ourselves, and make predictions for
> what will happen to us in the next six months?

My predictions don't seem so upbeat, so I'll pass...

But for those who care:

The bone marrow transplant is scheduled for August 19th. On the 5th, I
will undergo several tests, including a bone marrow test which involves
a needle being stuck into my back hip-area bones, and blood getting
extracted from inside the bone.

Sweet Dream Y'all!

--
"50,000 of the cells in your body died and were replaced with new cells,
while you were reading this sentence." - This has been another Useless
Fact!

Ellen

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Jul 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/28/99
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MELROSEMAN wrote:

>But for those who care:
>
>The bone marrow transplant is scheduled for August 19th. On the 5th, I
>will undergo several tests, including a bone marrow test which involves
>a needle being stuck into my back hip-area bones, and blood getting
>extracted from inside the bone.

I'm really proud of you, MM, and Dave and I are keeping you and your sister in
our thoughts and prayers. I have those dates marked on our calendar.

deb

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MELROSEMAN wrote...

>The bone marrow transplant is scheduled for August 19th. On the 5th, I
>will undergo several tests, including a bone marrow test which involves
>a needle being stuck into my back hip-area bones, and blood getting
>extracted from inside the bone.

My prayers are with you, MM. You've got a lot of courage to do this - you
and your family are in all our thoughts! Take care.

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Smelly Kelly

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J. Buckley wrote about the inevitable Elton John re-written song for John-John:

>>Oh, you know somebody is going to write a really lame song. I
>>hope this time at least it's an original.

Ellen wrote:
>Actually, I *did* hear something in passing on the news about another verse
>being added to "Abraham, Martin, and John" beginning thus: "Has anybody here
>seen my old friend John-John...."

Ewww! I wouldn't be surprised if someone approached Shelly Fabares to do a new
version of "Johnny Angel."

Kelroy

I know tomorrow brings the consequence at hand, but I keep livin' this day like
the next will never come. -- Fiona Apple


Smelly Kelly

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Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
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Ellen wrote:
>>The John-John tragedy is a death triumvirate in and of itself:
>>John-John, Mrs. John-John, and her sister.

Mike wrote:
>Hmmm.... Can we get an official ruling on this? Do deaths in threes have to
>be all in separate instances, or does one event suffice? Perhaps we should
>create a sub-class strictly for the one event - three death thing, that way
>it won't end up affecting this group's morbid habit of pari-mutuel betting
>on the deaths of famous people.

Perhaps the folks in alt.obituaries can be of assistance. They're really into
that stuff.

Does anybody know where the death triumvirate idea comes from? Is it old as
time or more recent? I wonder if it didn't begin with the deaths of Ritchie
Valens, Big Bopper, and Buddy Holly and if it wasn't perpetuated by the deaths
of Patsy Cline, Hawkshaw Hawkins, and Cowboy Copas. Just wondering.

Smelly Kelly

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Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
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J. Buckley wrote...
>>And if we're going to make a death pool, what about Tony Randall? The
>>guy's pushing 80 with a wife in her 20's. Add the obvious viagra
prescription
>>and he's a heart attack waiting to happen.

Why do I have this mental picture of Dr. Michael Mancini pushing Tony Randall's
body around in a shopping cart?

Deb wrote:
>I know J and I have a bet going about Andy Dick. I say he doesn't last
>another year. Ed Koch also seems to aging rapidly. Is Bob Hope still alive?

To be blunt, it seems that Bob has had one foot in the grave and the other on a
banana peel for a long time now. All those years as a comedian probably taught
him how to handle banana peels though. That's why he's held on for so long.

Add Katherine Hepburn. And watch David Letterman's show. For some reason,
celebs choose to melt down there. When they do, add 'em to the list.

Smelly Kelly

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Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
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CJ wrote:
>Ah, you're all (in this thread) a bunch of ghouls. But you're friendly
>ghouls, so I guess I still like you. :)

Anybody remember the old cartoon "The Groovie Goolies"? I think Cartoon
Network airs it at 4 a.m. on Saturday mornings.

Maybe they should make a live version of it starring kids from this newsgroup.

Smelly Kelly

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Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
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CJ wrote:
>Can I finally say that I think this whole ongoing 'Death Pool' thing is
>completely tasteless? There, I said it. Sure, go ahead with it, it's not
>like anything should be censored, but I think it's just too weird.

I see your point and can agree with it to a degree. I suppose it's that -- in
spite of the fact that they are to an extent part of our lives -- celebrities
are so far removed from us that it is easy for us to view them in different
ways and to not really see them as humans just like us. Does that make sense?


I mean, a few months ago there was a thread here all about Julia Robert's
underarm hair. Do you think there would have ever been a similar thread about
the underarm hair of Debbie or Ellen or Kyla or Marjon or Laura? I think not.


I guess it also has something to do with our subconcious minds not always
registering the difference between reality and the fiction we see on TV and in
the movies. When someone dies in a movie, we might be sad and maybe even cry
for a little while; but I would seriously wonder about the mental health of
someone who went into mourning over a character's death.

This reminds me of the person in alt.tv.melrose-place who would get excited
when the show got really good and who would scream out, "Maybe they'll be some
killin' next week!" Who was that? I miss her.

Smelly Kelly

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Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
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CJ wrote:
>>> Imagine if someone here had mentioned John Kennedy Jr. a year ago.
>>> Would you be cheering now because you were right?

LQ/JQ wrote:
>> No, I'd be mailing my resume to the Star!

MELROSEMAN wrote:

>I'd recommend: Laura's Psychic Friends Network

She *cone-veenced* me!

Smelly Kelly

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LQ/JQ wrote...
* d e b b i e * wrote:
>welcome, to fantasy island

Smiles, everyone, smiles!

Smelly Kelly

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Debbie wrote:
>Oh, I love Walter Matthau. As he got older, he became one of the ugliest men
>I've ever seen. But ugly in that so-ugly-that-he's-adorable way.

Ain't he charming as all get out? I hope I have that much personality and
character when I'm older. He just seems like the kinda guy you would love to
hang out with in a bar, listening to his stories and to his take on things.

Smelly Kelly

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Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
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J. Buckley wrote:
>Trust me, when it gets bad enough, you'll do something about it. I've been on
>my new job 3 weeks today and I was ready to quit on the spot without even
having
>something new lined up. But I have that interview tomorrow after work so I'm
>all sorts of pumped! I'm hoping this could be my shortest stint ever working
>for The Man.

Aw, man. I'm sorry to hear this. And you were so excited about the new job.
I can empathize with you. There are some days when I feel like chucking it all
and taking my neighbor up on her offer to get me a job as an internet stripper.
Hang in there, buddy.

>So, I guess these would be my predictions for the year:

>6) A bunch of kids setting fires at some huge millennium party

They have already started practicing at Woodstock.

This makes me wonder what you kids have planned for this year's big New Years
celebration. My friend Earl says he's going to stay home with a bat nearby and
be prepared to protect his. I've seen NYC on Halloween, and it can be bad,
kids. I can only imagine what it'll be like on NYE 1999. I think I'll just
stay home and celebrate later. My ideal would be to be in bed holding the man
I love when the clock strikes midnight.

>9) Mulder and Skully will kiss, but once again it'll be explained away due to
>some weirdness

What's your take on this? My downstairs neighbors and my ex got me hooked on
the show this past season. I like the way the powers that be are slowly
getting them together. It is my understanding that it really picked up with
the movie and during this year. I don't really know, as I never kept up with
the show before.

I've read here and there that some fans didn't like this past season,
especially the more comic episodes. My favorite so far has been the one with
Victoria Jackson, where the guy's emotions controlled the weather. It was so
sweet.

I want to see the older one about the backwoods brothers who kept their mother
under the bed. My roommate says it is the creepiest one ever.

I just hope that Mimi Rogers continues to appear. I love her.

Smelly Kelly

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l...@rhythmfoundation.com wrote:
>> I suppose it's like most families, where some cousins are good, and
>> some are bad sheep

Debbie wrote:
>Like Brandon and Valerie!

Ooh! That reminds me. I recently visited a new used music store in my
neighborhood and got several old albums. One of them is of the '70s revival of
"Gypsy." While looking at the back cover's cast listing I noticed that Tessie
Tura was played by none other than Valerie Walsh! Ba, ha, ha, ha!

I also got an old Dolly Parton record because it has "Here You Come Again" on
it. I can so relate to that song. I got the Weather Girl's "It's Raining Men"
on 12 inch (I'm such a size queen.). I got a Bette Midler comedy album because
she does all those old Sophie Tucker jokes on them (I'll never forget it. I
was in bed with my boyfriend Ernie and he said to me, "Soph, you got no tits
and a tight box." And I said, "Ernie, get off my back." That has got to be my
all-time favorite joke.).

But the best of the bunch is a K-Tel record from 1972. It has Cher's "Gypsys,
Tramps, and Thieves," *TWO* Donny Osmond songs, Eric Clapton, Rick Springfield,
Looking Glass's "Brandy," and my personal favorite, the Raspberries' "Go All
the Way." Don't hate me because I've got groovy records.

CJ

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deb wrote:

>2) I will finally lose those pesky 10 pounds, only to have them come back
>double onto my thighs.

I'd be very happy to gain 10 pounds. In money, that is.
Oh, and I still can't believe you worry about your weight. I've only seen a
few photos online, but YoUR So noT FatT!!!11

>5) Ben will dump me for Britney Spears.

I'm not so sure. She may be taken, by Lee from the group Steps, huge over
here, who are touring with her in the US at the moment. There's been
rumours, but you never know really.

>6) You will all ban me from the newsgroup for becoming so bitter about Ben
>and Britney.

If you leave Ricky alone, you can be as bitter as you like. :)

>8) S. John will move to New Jersey, learn how to drink gin with me and
never be heard from again.

Ahh, is *this* what's happened to SMU? The plot thickens.

>9) I will join the cast of The Real World.

I wonder about this. How can it be called the "Real World" when they have a
"cast"? ;)


CJ

CJ

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J. Buckley predicted:

>8) Ricky Martin torn limb from limb by over-eager fans

Shaddup. He has the right to bear arms too, you know.

>9) Mulder and Skully will kiss, but once again it'll be explained away due
to some weirdness

Love?


CJ

J. Buckley

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Smelly Kelly wrote:

> Aw, man. I'm sorry to hear this. And you were so excited about the new job.
> I can empathize with you. There are some days when I feel like chucking it all
> and taking my neighbor up on her offer to get me a job as an internet stripper.
> Hang in there, buddy.

Yeah, I really thought it would be a good job. It has potential to be great only
the boss has major communication problems which wind up making my life difficult.
But the new new job I might be getting really would be my total dream job! Of
course, if I don't get it and you go the internet stripper route, I'd be more than
happy to design your site. Net porn=$$$!

> >So, I guess these would be my predictions for the year:
> >6) A bunch of kids setting fires at some huge millennium party
>
> They have already started practicing at Woodstock.

What do you think I was referring to? And how old do you feel when this kind of
shit happens and you start using terms like "oy, kids today?" It makes me feel
ancient.

> I've read here and there that some fans didn't like this past season,
> especially the more comic episodes.

I can't speak for all fans, but I love the goofy episodes! The letterboxed one
where Mulder is on the ghost ship was probably my favorite of the season. And the
Gunmen in Vegas was great too.

> I want to see the older one about the backwoods brothers who kept their mother
> under the bed. My roommate says it is the creepiest one ever.

That one is really good. I think my all time favorite was the one with the teenage
girls born on the same day and everything goes really wacky in their town because
of the way the stars are lined up.

deb

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Smelly Kelly wrote...

>I got a Bette Midler comedy album because
>she does all those old Sophie Tucker jokes on them (I'll never forget it.
I
>was in bed with my boyfriend Ernie and he said to me, "Soph, you got no
tits
>and a tight box." And I said, "Ernie, get off my back." That has got to
be my
>all-time favorite joke.).

Bwah ha ha!

>But the best of the bunch is a K-Tel record from 1972. It has Cher's
"Gypsys,
>Tramps, and Thieves," *TWO* Donny Osmond songs, Eric Clapton, Rick
Springfield,
>Looking Glass's "Brandy," and my personal favorite, the Raspberries' "Go
All
>the Way." Don't hate me because I've got groovy records.

Oh Kel, you are *such* a 15-year-old girl.

--


* d e b b i e *

and i mean that in the best possible way

J. Buckley

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CJ wrote:

> J. Buckley predicted:
>
> >8) Ricky Martin torn limb from limb by over-eager fans
>
> Shaddup. He has the right to bear arms too, you know.

What about his fans' right to bear his arms?

> >9) Mulder and Skully will kiss, but once again it'll be explained away due
> to some weirdness
>
> Love?

Well that sort of goes without saying, but it'll be some sort of amnesia or
parallel universe thing more than likely.

deb

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CJ wrote...

>deb wrote:
>
>>2) I will finally lose those pesky 10 pounds, only to have them come back
>>double onto my thighs.
>
>I'd be very happy to gain 10 pounds. In money, that is.
>Oh, and I still can't believe you worry about your weight. I've only seen
a
>few photos online, but YoUR So noT FatT!!!11

Thanks, CJ. But to paraphrase Absolutely Fabulous - "All those women finally
get to have the body they wanted....10 days after they're dead." I really
don't know any woman who is happy with her body. It's sad, isn't it?

>>9) I will join the cast of The Real World.
>
>I wonder about this. How can it be called the "Real World" when they have
a
>"cast"? ;)

That's a good point.

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deb

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Smelly Kelly wrote...

>Anybody remember the old cartoon "The Groovie Goolies"? I think Cartoon
>Network airs it at 4 a.m. on Saturday mornings.

I remember it!

>Maybe they should make a live version of it starring kids from this
newsgroup.

But I don't remember it enough to re-cast it. Darn.

deb

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Smelly Kelly wrote...

>I mean, a few months ago there was a thread here all about Julia Robert's
>underarm hair. Do you think there would have ever been a similar thread
about
>the underarm hair of Debbie or Ellen or Kyla or Marjon or Laura? I think
not.

There *was* a whole thread about my tits - I figure underarm hair isn't that
far off.

Fred True

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In article <7nvv2d$ndc$1...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>,

deb <d...@freakgirl-NO-SPAM.com> wrote:
>There *was* a whole thread about my tits - I figure underarm hair isn't that
>far off.

Not more than a few inches, I'd wager.

-ft

Smelly Kelly

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deb wrote:
>>2) I will finally lose those pesky 10 pounds, only to have them come back
>>double onto my thighs.

CJ wrote:
>I'd be very happy to gain 10 pounds. In money, that is.
>Oh, and I still can't believe you worry about your weight.
>I've only seen a few photos online, but YoUR So noT FatT!!!11

You are so true. And the camera adds -- what -- ten pounds? And Debbie has
good posture, and she's taller than I thought she would be, and she smells good
too. If she'd crimp her hair, I'd start swingin' on the other side of the
street.

Smelly Kelly

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Smelly Kelly wrote:
JB wrote:
>... the new new job I might be getting really would be my total dream job! Of

>course, if I don't get it and you go the internet stripper route, I'd be more
than
>happy to design your site. Net porn=$$$!

Cool! Thanks! I tried on my vinyl Daisy Duke shorts tonight, and they still
fit. But the fringe is a little worn on my black thong. I'm thinking I should
do like they did on "Laugh-In" all those years ago and paint symbols and
slogans on my body. What do you think, partner?

>And how old do you feel when this kind of shit (Woodstock inferno)

>happens and you start using terms like "oy, kids today?" It makes
>me feel ancient.

It makes me feel like sending them all to Outward Bound.

>That one is really good. I think my all time favorite ("X-Files" episode) was


the one
>with the teenage girls born on the same day and everything goes really wacky
in
>their town because of the way the stars are lined up.

I like the Chupicabra (sp?) one if only because the guy in it was too cute.

Smelly Kelly

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CJ wrote:
>I'm reminded of a particularly memorable post by Kyla towards the end of
>last year, making the point about how tenuous our connections with this
>group are. As she said, never forget that people here care about one
>another. [With perhaps the exception of Mike and J., and with Kelroy and
>Elizabeth, it's more of a love/hate thing. ;)

She started it! It all began a year or two ago in alt.tv.melrose-place when
she and I were both coveting one of Sydney's dresses in a mock auction of
Melrose memorabilia. Elizabeth had *all* the nerve to say that *I* didn't have
the hips for the dress. She has since then been horridly cruel and evil to me,
while I have been the epitome of goodness and sweetness, suffering in painful
yet glamorous silence.

Seriously though (and for the record), I harbor no bad feelings for nor ill
will towards Elizabeth. I think she knows this and feels the same for and
towards me. Our bantering is simply our way of having fun with each other. I
consider her to be a friend, and I would never do anything on purpose to truly
hurt her. It may be hard to believe, but there actually are some lines I try
not to cross with her.

To me, our relationship is somewhat siblingish. We can beat up on each other
all we want, but Katy bar the door should someone else lay one finger on the
other. I'll whoop the snot outta anybody who dares to mess with *my*
Elizabeth. I have faith that she would do the same for me (unless she's just
gotten her nails done).

I also see our relationship as being similar to that of Fred G. Sanford and
Aunt Esther Williams from "Sanford and Son." The way I see it, these two
didn't really hate each other but they didn't want to admit it to the other.

One of my favorite episodes of that show was the one where Fred helped groom
and coach Esther for the Watts beauty pageant. He wanted her to win so badly;
and, when she didn't, he was more upset than she was. In another episode,
Esther hit Fred over the head with her purse, which contained her gold-plated
Bible, which packed a whallop, giving Fred amnesia. Esther was so upset at the
thought that she'd harmed Fred.

So, you see, I really do love the old battle axe. And in our next episode, I
will explain the relationship between Melroseman and me.

Smelly Kelly

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I wrote:
>>Don't hate me because I've got groovy records.

Debbie wrote:
>Oh Kel, you are *such* a 15-year-old girl.

You think? That's funny because my roommate tells me I act like a 50 year old
with a mortgage. But I have always wanted to be Gidget.

deb

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S On-Remote M wrote:

>
I wrote:
>>Thanks, CJ. But to paraphrase Absolutely Fabulous - "All those women
finally
>>get to have the body they wanted....10 days after they're dead." I really
>>don't know any woman who is happy with her body. It's sad, isn't it?
>
>I just don't get it-- I mean you're FINE... better than fine... the
>way you are. For me, my body issues are convoluted because I used to
>be heavy many life times ago and I'm currently hoping to GAIN 9 pounds
>but not in body fat but muscle. I weigh 160 and for 5-11½ and a medium
>frame 169 (with arms, butt, and pecs) is ideal. I'm reminded of your
>outburst about body image. Now I'm sad, let me be why I ponder how
>fugly I am :-(

Oh, I feel terrible now.

We are all BEAUTIFUL, FIERCE, and FABULOUS!

We post in a Spelling newsgroup, for God's sake. We're jet set, we're
glamorous, we're surgically enhanced!

J. Buckley

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Smelly Kelly wrote:

> Ooh! That reminds me. I recently visited a new used music store in my
> neighborhood and got several old albums.

Ooohhh, speaking of used record stores, there's this one in Dupont Circle that's
going out of business and all CDs are $2 and records are half price. The problem
is that there's no longer any sort of rhyme or reason to how they are laid out, so
you really have to dig to find stuff you want. I was just there for a bit to kill
some time before seeing Blair Witch, but in the 20 or so minutes I was there I
scored two great Zappa albums, Apostrophe and Overnight sensation which these days
are only available together on CD after a remix that most of the fans absolutely
hate. I think I might spend a good chunk of my birthday in there just going
through the stacks systematically and grabbing everything I can.

J. Buckley

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Smelly Kelly wrote:

> Cool! Thanks! I tried on my vinyl Daisy Duke shorts tonight, and they still
> fit. But the fringe is a little worn on my black thong. I'm thinking I should
> do like they did on "Laugh-In" all those years ago and paint symbols and
> slogans on my body. What do you think, partner?

As long as you use dayglow paint for peace signs and big hippy daisies.

> I like the Chupicabra (sp?) one if only because the guy in it was too cute.

That one had one of my favorite lines.
Mulder: "There have been reports of different colored rain, yellow, green,
purple..."
Skully: "Purple rain?"
Mulder: "Excellent album, flawed film."

Ellen

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J. Buckley wrote:

>Smelly Kelly wrote:
>
>> I've read here and there that some fans didn't like this past season,
>> especially the more comic episodes.
>
>I can't speak for all fans, but I love the goofy episodes! The letterboxed
>one
>where Mulder is on the ghost ship was probably my favorite of the season.
> And the
>Gunmen in Vegas was great too.

I like the funny ones, too. Add to that list the Christmas episode with Lily
Tomlin, where she said to Mulder: "I don't show my hole to just anyone." She
was, of course, referring to a bullet hole.

>> I want to see the older one about the backwoods brothers who kept their
>mother
>> under the bed. My roommate says it is the creepiest one ever.
>

>That one is really good.

Yeah, especially with the name of the town being Mayberry with a sheriff named
Andy Taylor.
I have that episode (actually almost all of the X-Files episodes from Season 1
on) on tape. When you come visit us, we'll have an X-Files Mayberry party. No,
I won't hide under the sofa.

Ellen
----<---<--<@
"I love you too, Mother, but let's not
get sticky about it."
--Anne Blythe to Joan Crawford, "Mildred Pierce" (1945)


J. Buckley

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Ellen wrote:

> I like the funny ones, too. Add to that list the Christmas episode with Lily
> Tomlin, where she said to Mulder: "I don't show my hole to just anyone." She
> was, of course, referring to a bullet hole.

Oooohhh, I almost forgot about that one! That was a really good one too. And
another kinda goofy one I really like from last season was the one with the town
in Texas with all the vampires and Mulder singing the theme from Shaft when he was
all drugged up.

sarahfrances

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J. Buckley wrote:

> Ooohhh, speaking of used record stores, there's this one in Dupont Circle that's
> going out of business and all CDs are $2 and records are half price. The problem
> is that there's no longer any sort of rhyme or reason to how they are laid out, so
> you really have to dig to find stuff you want. I was just there for a bit to kill
> some time before seeing Blair Witch, but in the 20 or so minutes I was there I
> scored two great Zappa albums, Apostrophe and Overnight sensation which these days
> are only available together on CD after a remix that most of the fans absolutely
> hate. I think I might spend a good chunk of my birthday in there just going
> through the stacks systematically and grabbing everything I can.

In Berkeley, Amoeba Records (which i hope dx is making trips
to in *double* since i'm no longer there) at least had it's
used uber bargains "A","B"...i found Hissanol that
way,Beatnik Filmstars...also a great way of getting cds that
i'm only getting to replace age old scratched up vinyl
(husker du,minutemen etc) so ye really dont wanna spend $ on
what ye sorta have.

Rasputin Records,also on Telegraph Ave had a seperate store
that was the bargain mayhem you describe in Dupont Circle.
we'd,uh, smoke before going--somehow made the searches a bit
less tedious.plus,when ye go in not expecting to find a
*thing* is when you really score. if i had a fistful o'$$
and the same option on my bday here,i'd be 'clack clack
clack clacking' along(oooooooooh the sound of 100 customers
cd searching can sound like a plastic clack version of "The
Birds".
sarahfrances
http://www.teleport.com/~sfw/~atmydesk.html

dont even bother. nothing new. under reconstruction again.
(7/3/99)

MELROSEMAN

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Smelly Kelly wrote:
>
> This reminds me of the person in alt.tv.melrose-place who would get excited
> when the show got really good and who would scream out, "Maybe they'll be some
> killin' next week!" Who was that? I miss her.
>
> Kelroy

Velveeta?

--
"50,000 of the cells in your body died and were replaced with new cells,
while you were reading this sentence." - This has been another Useless
Fact!

MELROSEMAN² - "Purveyor of the Web's premier necrophiliac
Melrose Place site" - SPIN Magazine, July 1998.
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/4616/

LQ/JQ

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deb wrote:

> Smelly Kelly wrote...
>
> >I mean, a few months ago there was a thread here all about Julia Robert's
> >underarm hair. Do you think there would have ever been a similar thread
> about
> >the underarm hair of Debbie or Ellen or Kyla or Marjon or Laura? I think
> not.

No. I don't think so either.

LQ/JQ

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Smelly Kelly wrote:

> I also see our relationship as being similar to that of Fred G. Sanford and

> Aunt Esther Williams from "Sanford and Son.".

Just as long as your relationship is NOTHING like Greg and Mrs. Brady! That is
just plain sick....
Laura


Anna

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> There *was* a whole thread about my tits - I figure underarm hair isn't that
> far off.

Actually I've been noticing some underarm hair on my vacation, and I'm
not longer sure that it's all bad. I think the deal is all or nothing
here - if you shave some, you have to shave it all. But I've seen people
with soft, long hair in their arm pits and it looked almost nice. I
started shaving because my mom told me that the sweat won't smell as
much if you've shaved.

Anna
Trying to help CJ lower the level before I get into the serious
debate(s).
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http://www.control.isy.liu.se/~annah/Personal/home.html
I read news for educational purposes only.

Anna

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CJ wrote:
>
> deb wrote:
>
> >2) I will finally lose those pesky 10 pounds, only to have them come back
> >double onto my thighs.
>
> I'd be very happy to gain 10 pounds. In money, that is.
> Oh, and I still can't believe you worry about your weight. I've only seen a
> few photos online, but YoUR So noT FatT!!!11

And I really want to write something about your essay on body image, and
I will, but I have to give it some serious thinking first.

But regarding weight: I really think it's a question of motivation. And
I think your lack thereof means that you're quite happy with the way you
look, and comfortable with yourself, which I think is good for you! If
you keep bringing it up (or thinking about it), it just means you havent
completely realized it, but you will.

Anna

deb

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Anna wrote...

>And I really want to write something about your essay on body image, and
>I will, but I have to give it some serious thinking first.

Cool.

>But regarding weight: I really think it's a question of motivation. And
>I think your lack thereof means that you're quite happy with the way you
>look, and comfortable with yourself, which I think is good for you! If
>you keep bringing it up (or thinking about it), it just means you havent
>completely realized it, but you will.

Well, I think I'm more lazy than comfortable with myself. ;-) But I have
noticed as I get older I feel better about what I look like. There are
things I want to change, but there are also things that will never change,
just because this is what my body looks like. I don't know why I complain so
much - I have serious issues with weight and image and stuff, but I have
good days and bad days.

--
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last updated 8-2-99


Marjon and/or M Ivon M

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Anna <an...@nospam.isy.liu.se> wrote:

>deb wrote:
>>
>> Smelly Kelly wrote...
>>
>> >I mean, a few months ago there was a thread here all about Julia Robert's
>> >underarm hair. Do you think there would have ever been a similar thread
>> about
>> >the underarm hair of Debbie or Ellen or Kyla or Marjon or Laura? I think
>> not.
>>
>> There *was* a whole thread about my tits - I figure underarm hair isn't that
>> far off.

>Actually I've been noticing some underarm hair on my vacation, and I'm
>not longer sure that it's all bad. I think the deal is all or nothing
>here - if you shave some, you have to shave it all. But I've seen people
>with soft, long hair in their arm pits and it looked almost nice. I
>started shaving because my mom told me that the sweat won't smell as
>much if you've shaved.

I think the smell really depends on what kind of deodorant you use.
But talking about shaving your armpits; this weekend I saw a woman
with who shaves her armpits, but she has such thick black hairs there,
that it looked very gross! I'd rather see armpithair then.
And I don't understand what the problem is with armpithair.


Marjon
____/;
\o.O'
=(___)=
U


S John M

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On Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:53:54 -0400, "J. Buckley"
<j.bu...@pressroom.com> wrote:

>
>I can't speak for all fans, but I love the goofy episodes! The letterboxed one
>where Mulder is on the ghost ship was probably my favorite of the season. And the
>Gunmen in Vegas was great too.
>

>> I want to see the older one about the backwoods brothers who kept their mother
>> under the bed. My roommate says it is the creepiest one ever.
>

>That one is really good. I think my all time favorite was the one with the teenage


>girls born on the same day and everything goes really wacky in their town because
>of the way the stars are lined up.


I've never really been able to get into the X-Files... one of the FEW
episodes I've seen and enjoyed was the one the two of them were in, I
think, Texas somewhere and there were like vampires of the trailer
parks of some such. Anyhow the reason it was so entertaining is the
story was presented twice from each of their perspectives. I remember
specifically two things I thought were really notable was the way
Mulder remembered Scully's affection for the town's sheriff v.
Scully's recollection and at the beginning Mulder recalled the name of
the hotel and a subtitle appeared then Scully interjected "It wasn't
called that!" and the subtitle back spaced and changed.

S. John


CJ

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Smelly Kelly wrote:

>I see your point and can agree with it to a degree. I suppose it's that --
>in spite of the fact that they are to an extent part of our lives --
>celebrities are so far removed from us that it is easy for us to view them
>in different ways and to not really see them as humans just like us. Does
>that make sense?

Yep, I see *your* point and can agree with it to a degree! Obviously they
don't mean as much to us because we don't know them personally. And I don't
doubt that predicting their deaths is a hugely popular Internet activity,
but to me it just seems too strange to be fun.

>I mean, a few months ago there was a thread here all about Julia Robert's
>underarm hair. Do you think there would have ever been a similar thread
>about the underarm hair of Debbie or Ellen or Kyla or Marjon or Laura? I
>think not.

You know, we've been a close shave away from that already - I wouldn't be
surprised! I hope not though.

>I guess it also has something to do with our subconcious minds not always
>registering the difference between reality and the fiction we see on TV and
>in the movies. When someone dies in a movie, we might be sad and maybe
>even cry for a little while;

I think the worst one I've seen is Anthony Edwards - Goose - in Top Gun.
Every time you know exactly what's going to happen and you still can't do
anything about it. :( Then of course there's Ghost too.
What are other people's, well, favourite is not quite the right word,
saddest movie moments?


CJ

CJ

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J. Buckley wrote:

Re: The X-Files

>I think my all time favorite was the one with the teenage girls born on the
same day and everything goes really wacky in their town because of the way
the stars are lined up.

I remember that one - what was it called? I tend to like the early ones
better, I've become a little bored by the ones I've seen more recently.
Here's a few which come to mind. "Pusher" was a good one, and they even
brought the character back later. I loved the one with the cable car, which
I think was the first time we found out that Krycek was in league with the
Cigarette Smoking Man. I think that would have been "Duane Barry", or the
second part of it. I liked the bit of "Quagmire" with Mulder and Scully in
the middle of the lake, I've only seen it once, but I'd like to see that
conversation again.
And there was one more recently which was very entertaining, unfortunately I
don't know the title or much about it. They were on location in a forest,
and I think there was a mysterious entity there killing people.


CJ

J. Buckley

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S John M wrote:

> I've never really been able to get into the X-Files... one of the FEW
> episodes I've seen and enjoyed was the one the two of them were in, I
> think, Texas somewhere and there were like vampires of the trailer
> parks of some such.

That was a great one! I think I mentioned it earlier

> Anyhow the reason it was so entertaining is the
> story was presented twice from each of their perspectives. I remember
> specifically two things I thought were really notable was the way
> Mulder remembered Scully's affection for the town's sheriff v.
> Scully's recollection

Or how about the way they see the extreme versions of each other? Skully's story had
Mulder being really dorky about the case while Mulder desribed her as just shooting down
everything he had to say about it.

> and at the beginning Mulder recalled the name of
> the hotel and a subtitle appeared then Scully interjected "It wasn't
> called that!" and the subtitle back spaced and changed.

I missed that part. You need to come over and watch TV and catch all the things like
that which I always miss. I'll have a sixer of that Swiller Lite and make some popcorn


--
J. Buckley
"We'll go to Beverly Hills right before dawn
and knock all those jockeys off the rich people's lawns"
--Frank Zappa

deb

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CJ wrote...

>>I mean, a few months ago there was a thread here all about Julia Robert's
>>underarm hair. Do you think there would have ever been a similar thread
>>about the underarm hair of Debbie or Ellen or Kyla or Marjon or Laura? I
>>think not.
>
>You know, we've been a close shave away from that already - I wouldn't be
>surprised! I hope not though.

"Close shave?" That's the funniest thing I've read all day.

>I think the worst one I've seen is Anthony Edwards - Goose - in Top Gun.
>Every time you know exactly what's going to happen and you still can't do
>anything about it. :( Then of course there's Ghost too.
>What are other people's, well, favourite is not quite the right word,
>saddest movie moments?

The first time I saw "Steel Magnolias," I wept for two hours. But I cry at
everything. Even though I don't like her, when Gwenyth Paltrow's character
steps in front of that car in "Sliding Doors," I cried like a baby. And
don't even get me started on what happened to me during "Titanic." Oh - and
the "She's Having a Baby" hospital scene? Please. The fire scene in "What's
Eating Gilbert Grape" damn near killed me, too.

I am SUCH a pussy.

LQ/JQ

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CJ wrote:

> I think the worst one I've seen is Anthony Edwards - Goose - in Top Gun.
> Every time you know exactly what's going to happen and you still can't do
> anything about it. :( Then of course there's Ghost too.
> What are other people's, well, favourite is not quite the right word,
> saddest movie moments?

Sad movie moment - The ending of The Last Emporer, when the Old Man (actually
the Emporer) returns to the Palace where he was a little boy emporer, and finds
the cricket. I cried so hard.

Worst movie ever saw - Flowers in the Attic. Did anyone see this one? It was
quite a few years back, and it was so bad that my friend and I wanted our money
back, and the money we had spent on popcorn & twizzlers!

Laura

I'm sure others have more sad and bad movie thoughts, but I don't go to that
many sad movies because I hate to be sad. I also try to avoid bad movies!


Kyla

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On Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:28:19 -0400, "deb" <d...@freakgirl-NO-SPAM.com>
wrote:

>>What are other people's, well, favourite is not quite the right word,
>>saddest movie moments?
>
>The first time I saw "Steel Magnolias," I wept for two hours. But I cry at
>everything. Even though I don't like her, when Gwenyth Paltrow's character
>steps in front of that car in "Sliding Doors," I cried like a baby. And
>don't even get me started on what happened to me during "Titanic." Oh - and
>the "She's Having a Baby" hospital scene? Please. The fire scene in "What's
>Eating Gilbert Grape" damn near killed me, too.
>
>I am SUCH a pussy.

mmmrwow... I'm a big ol' goober when it comes to stuff like that,
too.

As I glance across my movie collection:
When Bruce buys it in Armageddon...
Kurt Russell's funeral in Backdraft
When Robert Sean Leonard kills himself in Dead Poets Society
The Funeral of Four Weddings and a...
"You had me at hello." ...oh god. Jerry Maguire
and the big one...

I *always* cry... ALWAYS when either reading or watching Romeo and
Juliet.

...like it's *ever* gonna have a happy ending. Puh-leaze.

Kyla
eternal sap

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deb

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LQ/JQ wrote...

>Worst movie ever saw - Flowers in the Attic. Did anyone see this one? It
was
>quite a few years back, and it was so bad that my friend and I wanted our
money
>back, and the money we had spent on popcorn & twizzlers!

Man, that movie forever changed my personal rating system. I had to invent a
whole new one because of its MAJOR, MAJOR suckage. It sucked rocks. It
sucked big fat rocks.

Poor Kristy Swanson. At least she redeemed herself in my eyes with "Buffy
the Vampire Slayer."


--
* d e b b i e *

V.C. Andrews/CARLA! 2000

YourboyKel

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S. John said:
>> I've never really been able to get into the X-Files... one of the FEW
>:> episodes I've seen and enjoyed was the one the two of them were in, I
>> think, Texas somewhere and there were like vampires of the trailer
>> parks of some such.

J. Buck wrote:
>That was a great one! I think I mentioned it earlier.

Is this the one where the vampires are obsessive-compulsive and have to tie or
untie people's shoes? I've not seen it, but my roommate tells me that episode
is a reason she thinks I'm a vampire. That and the fact that I stay up until
all hours of the night and because my canine teeth are rather sharp.

Kelroy

I don't know what I'm up against. . . I don't know what it's all about. . .
I've got so much to think about. . . HEEEEEEY! -- Keith Partridge

S John M

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On Wed, 04 Aug 1999 18:58:47 -0400, "J. Buckley"
<j.bu...@pressroom.com> wrote:

>
>I missed that part. You need to come over and watch TV and catch all the things like
>that which I always miss. I'll have a sixer of that Swiller Lite and make some popcorn

A six pack? That should last at least until the end of the episode.
LOL. Anyhow, I think I'm regressing to the womb here-- I've spent what
seems to be the entire day at Mom's house and am contemplating staying
over LOL. I didn't realize how very much the internet and cable TV
brings to my daily life. What's neat is I get to smoke in the house
and Mom is doing all sorts of maternal things like asking me if I'm
hungry every 10 minutes. Yadda. I get to fill the next nearly two
weeks in this "scent of a nomad" deal so be advised that any and every
casual invite I receive may very well get taken up :-)

S. John, Oh the transition.


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