Charlotte Father Charged In Deaths Of Twin 5-Year-Old Girls
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Charlotte Father Charged In Deaths Of Twin 5-Year-Old Girls
POSTED: 5:03 pm EST January 20, 2006
UPDATED: 11:29 pm EST January 20, 2006
MATTHEWS, N.C. -- A father was charged Friday with killing his twin
5-year-old daughters at their home in an upscale neighborhood outside
Charlotte, police said.
David Crespi, 45, was charged with two counts of first-degree murder and was
being held in the Mecklenburg County Jail, police Capt. Brian Cunningham
said.
Earlier Friday, police spokesman Keith Bridges said the suspect -- later
identified as Crespi -- called 911 around 1 p.m. Friday to report the
slayings; he later surrendered at the scene without resistance, Bridges
said.
The girls were killed inside a 4,900-square-foot, two-story brick house in
the Deerfield Creek subdivision, Bridges said. He declined to speculate
about a motive.
"We are not anywhere in this where we can say anything about why someone
would take the lives of two little girls," Bridges said.
Property records showed the $505,000 home is owned by Kimberli and David
Crespi. A birth announcement published in the Sacramento (Calif.) Bee
newspaper indicated that the couple had twin girls born Oct. 16, 2000.
The couple had five children, according to an article published last fall on
the Web site of Sacramento State University, which mentioned David Crespi as
a member of a "Sac State Dynasty." He and his wife both graduated from the
school with bachelor's degrees in 1983.
That article said David Crespi worked as a director of internal audits for
the Wachovia Foundation; a spokesman for Charlotte-based Wachovia Corp.
confirmed Friday that David Crespi worked for the bank.
Kimberli Crespi is also a certified public accountant, according to the
Sacramento State account.
Bridges said the girls' mother and their three older siblings were all with
department chaplains at police headquarters Friday.
He said police had no record of prior calls to the Crespis' address and
there was no sign of a forced entry to the home.
"As far as I know, that was an intact family," he said.
Although emergency medical service personnel responded to the 911 call, the
girls were pronounced dead at the scene, Bridges said. He said counselors
had been brought in to talk with the officers and crime scene technicians
who were in the house.
"I can't describe to you how horrific this is and how sad," he said. "It has
been a toll on the police officers who were the first on the scene and got
control of it."
Julie Sheehan, a neighbor, walked past the cul-de-sac where the girls' home
was located, which was cordoned off with yellow police tape.
"They have three other children," she said. "We're a family neighborhood.
They're a part of this neighborhood and we just have to pray for them."
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David Crespi is being charged with two counts of murder following the deaths
of his 5-year-old twins.
David Crespi has been charged with two counts of first degree murder in the
stabbing deaths of his 5-year-old twin daughters.
Crespi, 45, was booked into Charlotte Mecklenburg County Jail Friday night.
The twins were stabbed to death at the Crespi home on Creek Point Drive in
south Mecklenburg County, where police found their bodies shortly after 1
p.m. Sources said David Crespi summoned police and confessed to the killings
during the 911 call. Police would not confirm that.
"Our investigators will go over that tape," said Keith Bridges,
Charlotte-Mecklenburg police spokesperson.
Police said they had never been called to the Crespi home before Friday, and
a motive for the killings has not been disclosed.
"We're not anywhere we can talk about a motive in this or any reasons
someone would want to take the lives of two little girls," CMPD's Bridges
said.
Investigators will be at the home all night gathering evidence. Emotionally,
this is one of the most difficult cases police ever handled.
"I can't describe to you how horrific and how sad this is," Bridges said.
"It's horrible."
Bridges said officers initially hoped that one girl would survive.
"One of the children is inside the house and one of the children is outside
because when officers first got here, they thought that one them might still
be alive," Bridges said. "They brought her out to try and get her to Medic
as quickly as possible, but that wasn't the case. She had already died."
When police arrived at the home, Crespi was outside and surrendered without
resistance.
"As is typical in any situation, the police officer would give the suspect
commands to do certain things. That should be no indication that he was not
cooperative. Everything that I've heard is that he was cooperative and
easily handcuffed," Bridges said.
Police notified David Crespi's wife, Kim, of the murders. Officers blocked
the street to prevent her from arriving at the scene unaware of what had
happened. The Crespi's three other children were not home at the time of the
murders.
"Chaplains are with the family right now at headquarters so we will be
providing whatever assistance they might need," Bridges said.
"I just honestly and truly believe that this was some kind of terrible thing
that just went wrong," one neighbor said.
Sources tell 6NEWS thad David Crespi is a senior vice president and managing
director of internal audit at Wachovia. The Crespis originally are from
Sacramento, Calif., where both David and Kim Crespi graduated from
California State Univeristy, Sacramento, also known as Sacramento State.
They attend St. Matthew Catholic Church in Charlotte, where David Crespi had
served on the parish finance council.
sprouts
Fuckhead. I hope he doesn't get away with it.
I'm tired of the rich hiding all of their dirty
laundry and getting away with it.
Disgusting.
eartha...@yahoo.com
http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/story/14098559p-14928394c.html
Twins fatally stabbed; father charged
The N.C. family formerly had lived in Sacramento.
By Christina Jewett and Elizabeth Hume --
Sacramento Bee Staff Writer
Published 2:15 am PST Saturday, January 21, 2006
A former Sacramento bank executive was charged Friday with two counts
of first-degree murder in the fatal stabbing of his twin 5-year-old
daughters in his home near Charlotte, N.C., police said.
David Lauren Crespi, 45, a vice president at Wachovia Bank, formerly
lived in the Pocket area and worked at Sacramento Savings Bank and the
Sacramento Housing and Redevelopment Agency before moving to the
Charlotte area in 2000.
Crespi had suffered from a five-year bout of depression and a very
recent stretch of insomnia, but was undergoing treatment, said his
father, Lauren Crespi, of Angels Camp.
"He had no history of this kind of problem," Crespi said.
David Crespi called police at about 12:39 p.m. Friday requesting
emergency response to his home in the Deerfield Creek community of
Matthews, said Keith Bridges, Charlotte-Mecklenburg police spokesman.
Officers found him on the driveway, distraught. Inside the home, they
found the girls, Samantha and Tessara, dead from stab wounds.
"It was very emotional for the police officers who had to respond,
attempting to rescue these children who unfortunately were already
gone," Bridges said.
He said police had no record of prior calls to the Crespis' address,
and there was no sign of a forced entry.
Crespi was taken to a local police station, where detectives questioned
him. His wife, Kimberli, was also interviewed by officials and was
counseled by chaplains, Bridges said.
Capt. Brian Cunningham said late Friday that Crespi was charged with
two counts of murder and is being held in the Mecklenburg County Jail.
Crespi has three older children from his first marriage to Kimberly Ann
Crespi, who was a nurse at Mercy General Hospital. Those children -
Jessica, 17, Dylan, 14, and Joshua, 9 - were at school at the time of
the stabbing.
Kimberly Ann Crespi died in 1993 after a yearlong struggle with brain
cancer. She was 30, according to former neighbors.
David Crespi later married Kimberli Crespi.
Former neighbor Marta Carrera said she could not have had kinder
neighbors on El Douro Drive in the Pocket area. When she moved in,
David and Kimberli Crespi brought her a bundt cake, she recalled.
The family routinely went on bike rides together, and after the twins
were born on Oct. 16, 2000, they rode along in a bicycle buggy, Carrera
said.
"They were just a model family," she said. "Hardworking, very engaged
with each other and with the kids."
Carrera said Crespi was a leader at St. Anthony's Catholic Church in
the Pocket area, and made his views clear to his next-door neighbor
Michael Newdow, an atheist activist.
While living in Sacramento, Crespi, a Stockton native, graduated from
California State University, Sacramento - as his father had, according
to a Sac State Magazine item.
Crespi was vice president and chief financial officer at Sacramento
Savings Bank until it closed in 1995. Later, he was a program manager
at SHRA. Later still, he was an executive at the Money Store, his
father said.
David Crespi had been diagnosed with testicular cancer about a year
ago, but beat it, Lauren Crespi said.
"Everything was fine" when he visited his son last Thanksgiving, Lauren
Crespi said.
The brunet twins were happy and dressed alike, he said. "They were the
twins, happy little girls. They loved their dad and everything," Lauren
Crespi said.
He said his son was open about his battle with depression, including
that in the past week he had started medication to help him sleep at
night. "In no way did he ever show this. There were no eruptions from
him or anything," he said. "He told us he had problems, depression. But
he had the best doctors he could find in North Carolina."
Lauren Crespi said he was in a state of shock, waiting Friday evening
to hear what would come next. "Our family has never been through
anything like this," he said.
Julie Sheehan described the area she and the Crespis live in as a
"family neighborhood." "They're a part of this neighborhood, and we
just have to pray for them," she said.
Former Pocket neighbor Carrera voiced her concern Friday evening for
Kimberli Crespi.
"My heart goes out to the older kids, too," Carrera said. "They lost
their biological mother, have a new mother, and now their father's not
there and their sisters aren't there."
cro...@earthlink.net
is my understanding that people with depression can't work up the energy to
do much of anything. And both of his wives were named Kimberly in some
spelling or another? Are we SURE wife #1 died of brain cancer? Really sure?
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vivisectrix
>Fuckhead. I hope he doesn't get away with it.
I really doubt if he will.
>I'm tired of the rich hiding all of their dirty laundry and getting away
>with it.
I doubt if his being rich is going to do him any good at all, since
killing twin girl-children (babies) is pretty much guaranteed to yank the
heartstrings of 99% of our population and have them frothing at the mouth
ready to tear this man's throat out with their bare teeth.
>Disgusting.
Yes, it is disgusting, but I'll play Devil's advocate. I'm cutting and
pasting below portions of the second article, because I'd like to make
some comments, sort of share a theory I suppose, about this case.
>The twins were stabbed to death at the Crespi home on Creek Point Drive
>in south Mecklenburg County, where police found their bodies shortly
>after 1 p.m.
>Sources said David Crespi summoned police and confessed to the killings
>during the 911 call. Police would not confirm that.
>When police arrived at the home, Crespi was outside and surrendered
>without resistance.
>Police notified David Crespi's wife, Kim, of the murders. Officers
>blocked the street to prevent her from arriving at the scene unaware of
>what had happened. The Crespi's three other children were not home at
>the time of the murders.
So David killed his two youngest children and then called police and said
something to the effect of, "I just killed two of my kids. Come get me
before my wife and other three kids get home."
(Yes, I'm extrapolating, guessing, and making assumptions)
So either he planned to kill everybody and lost his taste for it after he
killed the twins, or he specifically killed the twins and left the rest
safely alive for a reason.
If it's the latter, then it seems to me possible that David is seriously
mentally ill. Why do you kill two of your kids and leave the rest alive?
One "good" reason would be that they're "possessed" in some fashion, and
therefor a danger to the rest of the family.
Or maybe he lost his temper with one, injured her so severely he thought
it was best to euthanize her and then do the same for her sister so she
wouldn't have to suffer the loss of her "other half" for the rest of her
life. In which case his thinking is still just as insane as if he thought
they were demons.
Or perhaps the twins weren't his progeny (or he believed they weren't).
Maybe he and his wife used fertility treatments that led to the twins, or
he has reason to believe she had cheated on him 6 years ago, and that
thought finally triggered him to kill them. If so, it's equivalent to
believing they were posessed, and he's STILL crazy.
The only "sane" reason I can think of right this minute that he might have
deliberately only killed the twins would be revenge against his wife for
cheating on him. I have a hard time viewing revenge motives as insane,
although I suppose they would be considered as such by some.
But I suspect we're going to find out he was suffering a religious
delusion of some sort, and is as mentally ill as Andrea Yates.
Vivi
--
I wanna play with a pathetic suicidal masochist.
vivisectrix
>>Crespi had suffered from a five-year bout of depression and a very
>>recent stretch of insomnia, but was undergoing treatment, said his
>>father, Lauren Crespi, of Angels Camp.
Ah HAH! I knew it! Mental illness!
>this is weird...I know of no information linking depression to
>violence...it is my understanding that people with depression can't
>work up the energy to do much of anything.
No, but insomnia can sometimes cause a psychotic break, and medications
for both insomnia and depression can sometimes do the same.
Or he may have been struggling with psychosis and calling it depression.
Either way, I'm not at all surprised that there is a history of some kind
of mental illness going on.
My Snyder moment: Let those of us who were able to feel compassion for
Andrea Yates also allow ourselves to consider compassion for David Crespi.
eartha...@yahoo.com
And he also has a religious connection, active in his Catholic Church.
I wonder
if mental illness, or drugs he was on for it, play a part in why it
happened, will his
wife will stand by him. Or if he will get the support of the general
public like
Andrea Yates has.
vivisectrix
>>My Snyder moment: Let those of us who were able to feel compassion for
>>Andrea Yates also allow ourselves to consider compassion for
>>David Crespi.
>I wonder if mental illness, or drugs he was on for it, play a part in why
>it happened, will his wife will stand by him. Or if he will get the
>support of the general public like Andrea Yates has.
I rather doubt it. One of the saddest things (in my opinion) about our
culture, is that we are quicker to feel compassion for women than men. We
judge people with penises far more harshly than people with vaginas. And
it hurts both sexes. In our culture, women tend to be viewed as slightly
childlike, and men tend to be viewed as ultra-responsible. It holds our
women back, and puts unbearable pressure on our men.
I sincerely hope that if this man had a psychotic break, his wife and
family will be able to support him. But I will be very (pleasantly)
surprised if the general public is able to feel compassion for him.
Cliff and Linda Griffith
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(Top-posting because I'm leaving vivi's post intact.)
Yep, vivi...I think your ideas are good. The man HAD to be mentally ill to
do that. (Or a sudden "psychotic break" thing; but that's mental illness,
too, right?) I have a few ideas of my own.
My first thought, when I read that he was an accountant, was, "Yep, public
accounting'll do that to ya!" But I was really kinda kidding. My husband
was in public accounting, and his first and longest-term [Big 8] firm was
not at all "family-friendly".
As far as the Catholicism goes, it doesn't sound (at this point, anyway) as
if he went into a "super-religious phase", which I always associate with a
mental decline among Catholics. (Based on two Catholics close to me who had
nervous breakdowns) If anything, I'd say that it was the "Catholic Guilt"
that prompted him to call the police and confess right away. Also, I don't
think Catholics are particularly prone to killing those who they think are
"possessed"; that's not one of our big hang-ups, even though we do have the
reputation for exorcisms. Of course, if the man simply lost his mind
suddenly, anything's possible.
I really wonder about his having married two women named Kimberly/Kimberli.
Was he trying to replace his first wife in more ways than one, or was it
just a coincidence? It's not as if Kimberly is a common name, like Jane (or
Brittany, these days).
Not that it was a precursor to murder, but his father is named "Lauren"????
I've heard of some "unisex" names, like Marion/Marian, Cody, Casey,
Tracy/Traci; but never Lauren.
I'm eager to hear the explanation that David Crespi offers for murdering
those two little girls.
Linda
> I really doubt if he will. [get away with it]
eartha...@yahoo.com
The twins were his only children by his second wife which could be some
sort of revenge.
eartha...@yahoo.com
Father charged in killings of twins, 5
Police: Wachovia executive stabbed girls
MELISSA MANWARE AND STEVE LYTTLE
Charlotte Observer
A man called 911 and said he'd stabbed his twin daughters to death and
was about to kill himself, a dispatcher told police officers Friday.
When the officers arrived at the man's southeast Mecklenburg home about
12:45 p.m., they found David Lauren Crespi outside unarmed, police
spokesman Keith Bridges said.
The officers quickly handcuffed him and put him in a police car.
Inside, they found 5-year-olds Samantha and Tessara Crespi in separate
rooms.
The officers thought one of the girls might still be alive and carried
her to medics waiting outside. But both of the petite brunettes were
pronounced dead at their home.
Late Friday, police charged 45-year-old Crespi with two counts of
murder in the deaths of his twins. He is a senior vice president in
Wachovia's audit division, a company spokesman confirmed.
Police declined to say what they believe led to the killings and would
not release the 911 tape because it's part of the investigation.
They said the girls had each been stabbed more than once.
Detectives said Crespi did not hurt himself and was in the Mecklenburg
County jail late Friday.
The twins' deaths are the fifth and six homicides investigated in
Charlotte-Mecklenburg this year. Four of those slain have been under
age 18.
Crespi and the twins had been alone in the house in the Deerfield Creek
neighborhood, off Tilley Morris Road, Bridges said. Three older
siblings -- boys ages 9 and 13, and a 17-year-old girl -- were at
school; their mother, Kim Crespi, had gone to get a haircut.
Police intercepted her about two blocks from her home and broke the
news to her inside a neighbor's house.
Police said they had not been called to the Crespi home before. A check
of civil court records shows no signs of marital problems. And David
Crespi had no criminal record in North Carolina.
Several mothers from the neighborhood of half-million-dollar homes
stood outside the crime-scene tape crying and hugging. Husbands rushed
home from work and met them in the street. And within a few hours, a
school bus dropped children off just a block from where police had
closed the road.
Parents met their children at the bus and hugged them tightly. One boy
asked, "Are Samantha and Tessara dead?"
"It's tragic," said Julie Sheehan, who lives on a neighboring street.
"All we can do is pray. We are a family neighborhood. They are a part
of this neighborhood. We have to pray for them."
The Crespis were active at St. Matthew Catholic Church; the children
participated in religious education programs, and David Crespi helped
with church finances.
About 100 parishioners, many of them also neighbors, gathered at the
church Friday night to pray for the family. They said the rosary. The
church remained open throughout the night, but late Friday Antoinette
Usher said most people had gone home to be with their families. "It
just rattles you down to the core," she said.
The seven-member Crespi family posed smiling for a Christmas card they
sent to friends recently.
They had moved to North Carolina from California, neighbors said. They
bought their 4,900-square foot house in July 2001. The two oldest
children are from David Crespi's first marriage; he married Kim in 1994
after his first wife died of a brain tumor. She adopted his children.
Samantha and Tessara shared a room decorated with Winnie the Pooh; they
both loved music.
The neighbors and a church member also said David Crespi had been
fighting cancer.
According to his voice mail, Crespi did not work Friday but was due
back Monday.
Wachovia spokeswoman Christy Phillips declined to comment except to
say, "Our thoughts are with the family."
Chaplains met Friday with medics, dispatchers, firefighters, and police
officers who worked the killings.
"It's been very difficult for our officers," Bridges said.
"It's difficult and emotional for them to go into a home and see what
they saw, and know there is nothing they can do for them."
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Staff Writers Celeste Smith, Ken Garfield, Fred Kelly, Maria Wygand and
Sara Klemmer contributed.
vivisectrix
>(Top-posting because I'm leaving vivi's post intact.)
Thanks for the compliment. I'm curious though... did you think my
"reputation" might mean that some would perhaps not be willing to read my
post?
>As far as the Catholicism goes, it doesn't sound (at this point, anyway)
>as if he went into a "super-religious phase", which I always associate
>with a mental decline among Catholics. (Based on two Catholics close to
>me who had nervous breakdowns).
>Also, I don't think Catholics are particularly prone to killing those who
>they think are "possessed"; that's not one of our big hang-ups, even
>though we do have the reputation for exorcisms. Of course, if the man
>simply lost his mind suddenly, anything's possible.
Ultra-religious Madness does seem to be more common among Protestants in
our culture, but I've known a few Schizophrenic Catholics too. I rather
doubt if this man is Schizophrenic though. He's too old for onset.
Bipolar, perhaps, with psychosis (I believe they call that
Schizo-affective Disorder now), or a psychotic break caused by reaction to
medication(s) or insomnia, would be my first thoughts.
>I really wonder about his having married two women named
>Kimberly/Kimberli.
He's in my age-range, and I recall an awful lot of Kims when I was in
Grade and High School. I don't find the fact that his wives names are the
same particularly odd.
>Not that it was a precursor to murder, but his father is named
>"Lauren"???? I've heard of some "unisex" names, like Marion/Marian, Cody,
>Casey, Tracy/Traci; but never Lauren.
You must be a bit younger than I am, or perhaps haven't read as many dated
novels as I have. Lauren, like Beverly, was once a masculine name. It's
only been in the last 50-100 years that the names have been shifted by
parents to primarily girl-babies.
vivisectrix
>The twins were his only children by his second wife which could be some
>sort of revenge.
From the article you posted after responding to me (you probably noticed
this yourself, but I'm pointing it out anyhow):
>Three older siblings -- boys ages 9 and 13, and a 17-year-old girl --
>were at school; their mother, Kim Crespi, had gone to get a haircut.
>The two oldest children are from David Crespi's first marriage; he
>married Kim in 1994 after his first wife died of a brain tumor.
So their 9-year-old was by his second wife also. Not that it doesn't
exclude the possibility of some kind of revenge.
Twins are not super common. They're much more common than they used to be,
due to the upsurge of infertility treatments. I wonder if they used
artificial insemnation to get those last two. Didn't I read in one of
these articles that he recently went through testicular cancer? Could
impending testicular cancer have caused him to be infertile prior to
actually having it? Could the 9-year-old be his biological child while the
twins perhaps were not?
>She adopted his children.
So if she's able to hold onto her Faith through this personal hell, his
older children still have a parent who has made a commitment to them. I'm
glad. This is far more suffering than any child should ever have to go
through. It reminds me of the Stayner family. Although the issues causing
the suffering are very different, the absolute BARAGE of horrible grievous
experiences in one family is reminiscent.
eartha...@yahoo.com
Crespi has three older children from his first marriage to Kimberly Ann
Crespi, who was a nurse at Mercy General Hospital. Those children -
Jessica, 17, Dylan, 14, and Joshua, 9 - were at school at the time of
the stabbing.
But obviously the 9-year-old could not be by the first wife if she died
in 1994.
catherine yronwode
>
> Crosem:
>
> >>Crespi had suffered from a five-year bout of depression and a very
> >>recent stretch of insomnia, but was undergoing treatment, said his
> >>father, Lauren Crespi, of Angels Camp.
>
> Ah HAH! I knew it! Mental illness!
>
> >this is weird...I know of no information linking depression to
> >violence...it is my understanding that people with depression can't
> >work up the energy to do much of anything.
>
> No, but insomnia can sometimes cause a psychotic break, and medications
> for both insomnia and depression can sometimes do the same.
>
> Or he may have been struggling with psychosis and calling it depression.
>
> Either way, I'm not at all surprised that there is a history of some kind
> of mental illness going on.
Y'all missed this important clue to why he snaped. Crespi's father
Lauren Crespi told this to a newspaper reporter from the Sacramento Bee
in the article"
> Twins fatally stabbed; father charged
> The N.C. family formerly had lived in Sacramento.
> By Christina Jewett and Elizabeth Hume --
> Sacramento Bee Staff Writer
> Published 2:15 am PST Saturday, January 21, 2006
> He said his son was open about his battle with depression, including
> that in the past week he had started medication to help him sleep at
> night.
One week on new medication and he goes crazy.
In other words, he was put on new medicatons one week prior to his
psychotic break. It was the meds.
Crespi's father continues:
> "In no way did he ever show this. There were no eruptions from
> him or anything," he said. "He told us he had problems, depression. But
> he had the best doctors he could find in North Carolina."
I read this as "He was seeing good doctors in California and his
depression was under control for years to the extent that he held a
responsible job and made a lot of money and raised a family, but when he
moved to North Carolina, the new doctors ('the best doctors he could
find in North Carolia' -- i.e. not as good as his California doctors)
changed his medications -- and look what happened!"
Prediction #1: The abrupt behavioural change caused by changed mdication
will be Crespi's defense in court -- and likely it will be authentic,
too, not a phony defense. His legal team may seek to establish temporary
insanity caused by the sudden change in medication. In any case, the
medication defense may result in a lowered charge or, if the charge
remains, a reduced sentence if possible, given the laws of that state.
Prediction #2: Try to find the name for the meds (whih will be withheld
for a while, but must ome out during the trial) -- and remember that
name because i predict that within three years the name will show up in
a research study that links that particular medication with
sudden-onset violent behaviour among depressed patients who took it for
insomnia. The medication may even be withdrawn fom the market due to the
potentially high-profile nature of this case.
cat yronwode
vivisectrix
>Y'all missed this important clue to why he snaped. Crespi's father Lauren
>Crespi told this to a newspaper reporter from the Sacramento Bee in the
>article"
>He said his son was open about his battle with depression, including that
>in the past week he had started medication to help him sleep at night.
>One week on new medication and he goes crazy.
No, I didn't miss it. That's why I mentioned medication.
>In other words, he was put on new medicatons one week prior to his
>psychotic break. It was the meds.
I'm not willing to say absolutely that it was the medication without first
hearing more from his family, himself, the 911 call, and.or his
interrogations, but I suspect you are right.
>Crespi's father continues:
>>"In no way did he ever show this. There were no eruptions from
>>him or anything," he said. "He told us he had problems, depression. But
>>he had the best doctors he could find in North Carolina."
>I read this as "He was seeing good doctors in California and his
>depression was under control for years to the extent that he held a
>responsible job and made a lot of money and raised a family, but when he
>moved to North Carolina, the new doctors ('the best doctors he could
>find in North Carolia' -- i.e. not as good as his California doctors)
>changed his medications -- and look what happened!"
I haven't gotten the impression that he had major problems in California.
My reading left me with the impression that his problems became severe
enough to seek medical help after they'd moved to North Carolina.
>Prediction #1: The abrupt behavioural change caused by changed mdication
>will be Crespi's defense in court -- and likely it will be authentic,
>too, not a phony defense. His legal team may seek to establish temporary
>insanity caused by the sudden change in medication. In any case, the
>medication defense may result in a lowered charge or, if the charge
>remains, a reduced sentence if possible, given the laws of that state.
>Prediction #2: Try to find the name for the meds (which will be withheld
>for a while, but must ome out during the trial) -- and remember that
>name because i predict that within three years the name will show up in
>a research study that links that particular medication with
>sudden-onset violent behaviour among depressed patients who took it for
>insomnia. The medication may even be withdrawn fom the market due to the
>potentially high-profile nature of this case.
I wouldn't bet against you on either of these predictions. I just really
hope the medication wasn't Ambien, or I'm fucked. That stuff has saved my
life.
tiny dancer
"catherine yronwode" <c...@luckymojo.com> wrote in message
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It will be curious to see if he fare's any better than Andrea Yates,
considering many of the similiarities.
td
tiny dancer
Geez, I can't see Ambien doing this to anybody. It's so benign, isn't it?
It fit into my regime without any notice, other than finally some
well-needed sleep.
td
vivisectrix
>I just really hope the medication wasn't Ambien, or I'm fucked. That stuff
>has saved my life.
>Geez, I can't see Ambien doing this to anybody. It's so benign, isn't it?
>It fit into my regime without any notice, other than finally some
>well-needed sleep.
Different people react to medications in very different ways. My worry
wouldn't be so much if he was the one in ten billion who reacted to Ambien
with violence as it would be if he was the one in five thousand. Because
the former would be a bummer for him and his family, while the latter
would mean the eventual recall of the medication.
During a period of horrendous grief and personal crisis, I drank quite
heavily for about six weeks, and occasionally took an ambien when under
the influence of alcohol. That combination *always* caused a blackout. I
don't mean that it put me to sleep, because it didn't. I'd stay awake and
function in a drunken manner and have absolutely no memory of my actions
the next day... not even a hazy half-memory. The reasons I know I never
got violent or drove a car or did anything else that was illegal or insane
are that I was seldom alone and family members would have told me if I was
acting in a dangerous manner (they told me I was meloncholy or confused or
sad or funny, but never mentioned any abusive behavior or talk), and when
I was alone I was online and got to see the results of my drugged and
drunken thinking in logs (pretty much the same sort of feelings/behaviors
my family described, with lots of typos). It's my understanding that
ambien causes blackouts in some people even if they don't mix it with
alcohol or other drugs.
That brief hellish period of my life is the only time I've improperly used
ambien, and otherwise my reaction to it is exactly like yours. About three
times a month, one ambien will allow me to get to sleep at a decent hour,
sleep a restful sleep complete with dreams for 7-9 hours, and wake
refreshed and fully functional. But I can see where it might be possible
for some people to have a totally different reaction to it.
Vivi
tiny dancer
I too have mixed my meds with booze, when necessary, to survive. But not
Ambien usually. More likely it's the xanax. If I've drunk enough and take
enough pills, I can count on a certain number of hours of *peace*. A spaced
out place where you don't feel anything for awhile. But I hadn't heard
anything negative about Ambien. I'm prescribed it nightly, have been using
it for a number of years that way. Hopefully we will be able to go along
our way, without any interference from Big Brother, because I agree with
you, Ambien is a blessing. I mean yeah, I'd prefer being hooked up to a
morphine drip, but short of that, I'll settle for Ambien. ;-) Hell, I'd
volunteer to go back into the hospital and have my uterus ripped out again
for that morphine drip though. ;-> Now THAT was sleep.
td
vivisectrix
>Hell, I'd volunteer to go back into the hospital and have my uterus
>ripped out again for that morphine drip though. ;-> Now THAT was sleep.
LOL!
Morphine doesn't put me to sleep. Just makes me not-feel. I've heard
though, that heroin works better than morphine, for both sleep and pain
relief. It's also easier to get (although I suppose you couldn't really
count on the quality).
Vivi
tiny dancer
> Tiny Dancer:
>
> >Hell, I'd volunteer to go back into the hospital and have my uterus
> >ripped out again for that morphine drip though. ;-> Now THAT was sleep.
>
> LOL!
>
> Morphine doesn't put me to sleep. Just makes me not-feel. I've heard
> though, that heroin works better than morphine, for both sleep and pain
> relief. It's also easier to get (although I suppose you couldn't really
> count on the quality).
>
> Vivi
I'm not exactly sure what was in it. The doc said he added in a couple
extra opiates, just for me. ;) He and my shrink agreed, it would be best
if I remained *asleep* during my hospital stay. And I have to give it to
'em, other than getting up occasionally to pee, I remember nothing from
Monday morning till Friday afternoon. And I felt so rested, I can't tell
you how rested I felt. The occasional times I recall awakening, I'd just
press my little *button* again. A couple friends told me they'd either
called or come to visit, I don't remember 'em though. I apparently talked
on the phone to people, ate, all without any memories. Man, what I wouldn't
give for that again.
td
Cliff and Linda Griffith
> Thanks for the compliment. I'm curious though... did you think my
> "reputation" might mean that some would perhaps not be willing to read my
> post?
Did I mention your reputation? (If I did, I forgot.) But HELL,YES, there
are some who wouldn't read your posts, having seen your .sig-line.
(But...is that a BAD thing???) Think Cleopatra and her ilk.
> He's in my age-range, and I recall an awful lot of Kims when I was in
> Grade and High School. I don't find the fact that his wives names are the
> same particularly odd.
It's all in the time-frame. When there's something I don't want to do (like
moving into a new house), I say I'm saving that thrill for my husband's
*second* wife: Bambi, Barbie, or Tiffany. Names go by generations, dontcha
think? I figure a 50-60-yr-old widower will choose a 20-30-something Second
Wife...thus the names.
> You must be a bit younger than I am, or perhaps haven't read as many dated
> novels as I have. Lauren, like Beverly, was once a masculine name. It's
> only been in the last 50-100 years that the names have been shifted by
> parents to primarily girl-babies.
Vivi, you haven't been keeping up: I think there are very few people in the
world...or at a.t-c...older than I (58). (Well, aside from Cleopatra.)
Maybe it's the dated novels, 'cause I never realized that Lauren or Beverly
were ever masculine..
Regardless, I think your ideas hold a lot of weight.
Linda
Cliff and Linda Griffith
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> The twins were his only children by his second wife which could be some
> sort of revenge.
Regardless of what *he* thinks was the reason, isn't that sad? He murdered
his only children. What could he have thought warranted that?
(Not to say it would've been better had he murdered the *other* kids.)
Linda
Chocolic
"Cliff and Linda Griffith" <grif...@charter.net> wrote in message
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I'm a couple years younger than you (I love saying that ;)). I love
reading the old names in the obits. Some are really funny. But yea I
agree with Vivi on the Beverly and Lauren. Though I never knew
anybody with those names, I sometimes see those names used for men in
the 80+ year range. Carol is another one I see used for men at one
time, sometimes spelled a little different.
Chocolic
Chocolic
They weren't his "only" children, but yea what a sad thing. I will be
curious when the rest of the info comes out on the why's. It sounds
like he was pretty upstanding with no history, other than depression.
I'm really curious to what meds he was taking.
Chocolic
eartha...@yahoo.com
http://www.news14charlotte.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=111628
Many stunned by young twins' murder
1/21/2006 8:37 PM
By: Kate Barker, News 14 Carolina
MATTHEWS, N.C. - The Matthews man charged with slaying his 5-year-old
twin daughters at their upscale home is awaiting his first court
appearance on Monday.
David Crespi, 45, was charged with two counts of first-degree murder
Friday evening. He was then taken to a mental health facility where he
stayed the night.
Police said Crespi, an executive at Wachovia, called 911 just before 1
p.m. Friday and reported he had stabbed and killed the children and was
planning on killing himself. When a Medic crew arrived at the Creek
Pointe Drive home, they discovered the girls, Tessara and Samantha, had
been stabbed multiple times.
Their mother, Kimberli Crespi, was getting her haircut when the murders
occurred and their three older siblings were at school. According to
the Associated Press, the two oldest children are from Crespi's first
marriage to Kimberly Ann Crespi, who died in 1993 after a yearlong
struggle with brain cancer.
Police have not released a motive for the stabbings.
Crespi's father, Lauren, said that Crespi had suffered from depression
and recently with insomnia, but was undergoing treatment, the
Sacramento (Calif.) Bee newspaper reported Saturday.
"He had no history of this kind of problem," Lauren Crespi of Angels
Camp, Calif., told the newspaper.
Lauren Crespi said Crespi, a former Sacramento bank executive, was open
about his struggle with depression and recently started taking medicine
to help him sleep.
"In no way did he ever show this. There were no eruptions from him or
anything," Lauren Crespi said. "He told us he had problems, depression.
But, he had the best doctors he could find in North Carolina."
David Crespi had also been diagnosed with testicular cancer about a
year ago, but beat it, Lauren Crespi said.
David Crespi's family moved from California to the house in the
Deerfield Creek in July 2001. On Saturday, the $505,000 home where the
murders occurred was quiet and the lights were on, but neighbors said
the family did not return there Friday night. Instead they stayed at a
hotel.
Two yellow roses lay on the front lawn, soaking up the rain.
"It's really cold and rainy. I guess it's really appropriate
weather for the mood," said neighbor Bradley Williams.
Neighbor Sarah Southard, 17, is the same age as the Crespi's oldest
child. She reflected on how the incident must be affecting her peer.
"She should be doing what we're doing - going out with her
friends, going to eat lunch, going to the movies - not having to deal
with this," she said. "It's not fair."
Police said before Friday they had never been called to the southeast
Mecklenburg County home.
"It's terrible that it would happen in this area," Southard said.
"It's a nice neighborhood."
Just a few miles from the home is Saint Matthew Catholic Church, where
the Crespi family attended mass. Church members said their priest spent
Saturday with the Crespis.
The Crespi family attended Saint Matthew Catholic Church.
Families there are struggling to explain to their young children what
happened to the twins.
"It hasn't quite settled in yet so that's why I probably don't
have an idea how you handle it with your kids," said church member
Jeff Peterson.
Now church members, neighbors and the entire community is asking the
same question: How could this have happened?
"I couldn't imagine doing that, no matter how difficult life is,
whatever it is - if work is stressful or the relationship is
stressful, I don't know how you still take it out on kids,"
Peterson said.
Funeral plans have not been determined for the twins, but neighbors
said there will probably be two memorial services - one in
Mecklenburg County and one in California where many Crespi family
members reside.
Charlotte-Mecklenburg police have now investigated six homicides so far
this year, and four of the victims were children under the age of 18.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
cro...@earthlink.net
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eartha...@yahoo.com
Looks like his father as a kid, or probably his grandfather had an
award winning jumping frog in 1934.
http://www.cityofangels.org/froghopexcel.htm
1934 General Grant Lauren Crespi Angels Camp, CA 12' 5"
The current world record is 21' 5 3/4" set in 1986 by Rosie the Ribiter.
vivisectrix
>Did I mention your reputation? (If I did, I forgot.)
No, not at all. I was simply curious. I end up hand-editing posts in order
to answer them line by line or page by page. I've only left a few posts
intact since I discovered usenet in 1989. Probably could count the ones
I've done that with on both hands, and have a few fingers left over. And
the few times I've done it, it was because I wanted some who might not
read that person to have a second chance to read it.
(sorry for the editing in the following line)
>But HELL, YES, there are some who wouldn't read your posts, having seen
>your .sig-line. (But...is that a BAD thing???) Think ********* and h**
>ilk.
Haven't you ever heard the saying, "Name the Devil and he'll visit your
own"? You should know better.
BUT... speaking of the ilk... actually, sometimes the ilk like responding
to my posts, just to tell me what a scumbag I am, and to wish horrid
things on me. I don't think I'm in many killfiles.
>>He's in my age-range, and I recall an awful lot of Kims when I was in
>>Grade and High School. I don't find the fact that his wives names are
>>the same particularly odd.
>Names go by generations, dontcha think? I figure a 50-60-yr-old widower
>will choose a 20-30-something Second Wife...thus the names.
Ah. He's only 45. I don't know how old his wife is, but looking at her
picture I'd say she's between 35 and 40. She looks a bit younger than him,
but not a lot. I freely admit I'm guessing her age though. The picture is
awfully small.
(again with a bit of editing... my apologies)
>Vivi, you haven't been keeping up: I think there are very few people in
>the world...or at a.t-c...older than I (58). Maybe it's the dated novels,
>'cause I never realized that Lauren or Beverly were ever masculine.
You're right. I haven't been keeping up. You've got a year or two on me.
So it must be those dated novels. Plus, I've known two male Laurens in my
life, and one male Beverly. The Laurens (although they were in my father's
generation), and the Beverly was a fourth. He was about ten years younger
than I and it was a family name. He was quite proud of it and if he ever
has a son, I'm sure there'll be a Beverly the Fifth in his family. Someone
also mentioned the name Carroll. Carroll O'Connor was in an age range
where that one was commonly given to men.
>Regardless, I think your ideas hold a lot of weight.
I'm quite flattered.
Cliff and Linda Griffith
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> good heavens, this article has about a dozen writing errors in it...
Don't they all, these days? Did you see my complaint about one article that
Tiny Dancer posted? It was *awful*!
The Fort Worth Star-Telegram has similar errors, but I'm more interested
these days in the factual errors. I'm thinking about clipping out all the
"corrections" that the Startlegram puts in each day's paper, and sending
them in after a certain period of time. It's embarrassing. (Maybe they'd
hire me as an editor? No, probably not. I don't think they care all that
much. Anyway, I'd prefer to be a copy-editor, correcting the grammar and
usage.)
Linda
just a mom
I just wanted to take a quick moment to mention to you that I
absolutely love your username.
>Mugshot of David Crespi & picture of parents with twins at
>http://www.news14charlotte.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=111628
You know what's interesting about that picture? The only
children portrayed are the twins. Is that common in large
families... to have portraits done with some, but not all, of
the children living in the home? We've certainly never done
that in my family. Whenever my husband and I have had family
portraits done, we've gathered every child still living at
home, and as many of the adult children as we could get
together. Because all but two (yes, for those who keep up, we
took in another child) of our kids are now adults and living
on their own, we tend to have family portraits taken during
family gatherings. Fortunately, one of our family members is
a pretty decent photographer.
I just wanted to mention that it seems weird to me. Am I the
only one?
Dani K.
Cliff and Linda Griffith
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> Looks like his father as a kid, or probably his grandfather had an
> award winning jumping frog in 1934.
>
> http://www.cityofangels.org/froghopexcel.htm
>
> 1934 General Grant Lauren Crespi Angels Camp, CA 12' 5"
>
> The current world record is 21' 5 3/4" set in 1986 by Rosie the Ribiter.
Good grief! How do you find all this stuff?
I was proud of myself for finding some missing people from the REL
[Graduating] Class of 1966; but I'd never be able to find Jumping Frog
winners from 1934! I'm truly impressed!
Linda
eartha...@yahoo.com
Cliff and Linda Griffith wrote:
I just googled his father's name with Angels Camp. Angels Camp is in
Calaveras
County, Mark Twain country. Seems like the family has been in
California at least
several generations. Angels Camp, an old goldrush town in the Sierra
foothills,
is not too big but like all the towns on HW49 is growing with lots of
retirees
wanting to get away from the rush of the Bay Area. Of course too,
while
housing is not cheap there, it is cheaper than the Bay Area.
eartha...@yahoo.com
just a mom wrote:
> Hey Earthage,
>
> I just wanted to take a quick moment to mention to you that I
> absolutely love your username.
>
Ah thanks. I don't really like it, I thought it up quickly but now
it's
my usenet name so I'll stick with it.
> >Mugshot of David Crespi & picture of parents with twins at
>
> >http://www.news14charlotte.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=111628
>
> You know what's interesting about that picture? The only
> children portrayed are the twins. Is that common in large
> families... to have portraits done with some, but not all, of
> the children living in the home? We've certainly never done
> that in my family. Whenever my husband and I have had family
> portraits done, we've gathered every child still living at
> home, and as many of the adult children as we could get
> together. Because all but two (yes, for those who keep up, we
> took in another child) of our kids are now adults and living
> on their own, we tend to have family portraits taken during
> family gatherings. Fortunately, one of our family members is
> a pretty decent photographer.
>
> I just wanted to mention that it seems weird to me. Am I the
> only one?
>
> Dani K.
I thought it was weird too. They do have a family picture with
all the children, but then they have this one too. I could see
maybe a picture of just the twins, but not just the parents and
the twins. That's strange. You wouldn't want to hang it up in
the house.
catherine yronwode
> I'm a couple years younger than you (I love saying that ;)). I love
> reading the old names in the obits. Some are really funny. But yea I
> agree with Vivi on the Beverly and Lauren. Though I never knew
> anybody with those names, I sometimes see those names used for men in
> the 80+ year range. Carol is another one I see used for men at one
> time, sometimes spelled a little different.
>
> Chocolic
I'm 58 and i well recall when Beverly and Lauren (either as short for
Laurence, or just plain Lauren from in front) were men's names.
The first time i heard a girl given a so-called "man's" name was in the
1950s, when some friends of my mother named their daughter Sydney.
Everyone was shocked.
After that i ran into an increasing number of females who had been given
formerly male names like Alexis, Ashley, Courtney, Taylor, Hailey,
Shelby, Kendall, Beverley, Mackenzie, Kimberly, Madison, Michael, and so
forth.
Then, by the 1970s, men named Carroll were laughed at because "Carol is
a girl's name" -- even though the names Carol and Carroll had existed
side by side for decades prior.
Most of the people naming their girls with male names during the 1950s -
1970s were white Aglo-Saxon Protestants and the names were mostly (with
the exception of Michael which is Hebrew and Alexis which is Greek) old
British (English / Scottish / Irish) surnames that had earlier become
British male first names due to having been used when naming a son after
his mother's surname, to "keep the name in the family."
Suddenly it was fashionable to give these British surnames to girl
children -- even when the surname had never previously been in the
family.
And now folks have forgotten that it was ever shocking, then
fashionable. It just seems normal these days -- so much so that young
people have asked me, when reading about a man named Beverly, if he was
"a cross-dresser"!
cat yronwode
vivisectrix
>They do have a family picture with all the children
Do you have a link for that picture?
eartha...@yahoo.com
vivisectrix wrote:
> Earthage:
>
> >They do have a family picture with all the children
>
> Do you have a link for that picture?
>
> Vivi
> --
Looks like it's more recent than the other picture.
http://www.sacbee.com/static/rich_content_images/164210-0121twins01.jpg
vivisectrix
>Looks like it's more recent than the other picture.
>http://www.sacbee.com/static/rich_content_images/164210-0121twins01.jpg
You're right. They look about three in the portrait. This picture is more
a family picture taken by a family member or friend, rather than a
portrait, and they look closer to five here. It's interesting though. The
twins are placed in a manner so they look like the bookends... like
they're what was holding the family together.
Probably pure psychobabble bullshit, but it did occur to me.
Cliff and Linda Griffith
> Linda:
>
> >But HELL, YES, there are some who wouldn't read your posts, having seen
> >your .sig-line. (But...is that a BAD thing???) Think ********* and h**
> >ilk.
>
> Haven't you ever heard the saying, "Name the Devil and he'll visit your
> own"? You should know better.
Gosh, no...I never heard that. I thought my grandmother, my best friend,
and my mother-in-law had given me all the "important warnings", but I missed
that one. "Never begin a project on a Friday," "If a bird flies into your
house, somebody is going to die," and "Don't let a black cat cross your
path;" "If your nose itches, somebody's coming to visit", "If you forget
something, sit down and count to 10", "If your hand itches, you're going to
come into money" [I think?], etc.
Linda
Linda
cro...@earthlink.net
been schooled the old-fashioned repetition way that is SO looked-down upon
now...one day there is going to be a job, not at a newspaper, but in
industry or government, that consists mostly of correcting/editing/writing
important documents...this last week, I saw two of them...news:KUFAf.2767$S56....@fe06.lga...
cro...@earthlink.net
now-dead twins?
<eartha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Cliff and Linda Griffith wrote:
thought
it was drop a knife and company's coming in whatever direction the
knife is
pointing.
Cliff and Linda Griffith
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> You know what's interesting about that picture? The only
> children portrayed are the twins. Is that common in large
> families... to have portraits done with some, but not all, of
> the children living in the home? We've certainly never done
> that in my family. Whenever my husband and I have had family
> portraits done, we've gathered every child still living at
> home, and as many of the adult children as we could get
> together. Because all but two (yes, for those who keep up, we
> took in another child) of our kids are now adults and living
> on their own, we tend to have family portraits taken during
> family gatherings. Fortunately, one of our family members is
> a pretty decent photographer.
>
> I just wanted to mention that it seems weird to me. Am I the
> only one?
>
> Dani K.
As one who gathered her family together in November for a Family Portrait, I
will say that it's odd. The studio people took pictures of each married
couple, the entire family, each of the two children, and the two children
together. I must say, though, that in the past, the studio has taken shots
of every grouping that they could imagine: the children, the parents with
the children, the grandparents with the children, the entire family, each
adult couple, etc. But never "one child with a parent or parents" as this
seems to be. We don't have twins, but I think "one child with a parent" is
comparable. I, too, think that's odd. If it was a home-picture, there's no
telling what groupings they might have; but professional portraits wouldn't
have that particular sitting.
I've forgotten which children are whose in this case, but still: when you
co-mingle families, you don't usually have pictures taken showing "his,
mine, and ours".
Linda
vivisectrix
>but isn't that the biological family...wife #2, Mr. Murderer and the
>now-dead twins?
No. The nine-year-old boy is also their biological child. The two
teenagers are the only children born to his first wife.
tiny dancer
Could be something as simple as a church portrait, or one in a number of
poses. Or a *free offer*, used when the other kids were other places at the
time. Sometimes it's hard to get all the members of a family together at
the same time, especially when the older kids are teens.
td
>
>
Cliff and Linda Griffith
news:1137915970.4...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > Gosh, no...I never heard that. I thought my grandmother, my best
friend,
> > and my mother-in-law had given me all the "important warnings", but I
missed
> > that one. "Never begin a project on a Friday," "If a bird flies into
your
> > house, somebody is going to die," and "Don't let a black cat cross your
> > path;" "If your nose itches, somebody's coming to visit", "If you forget
> > something, sit down and count to 10", "If your hand itches, you're going
to
> > come into money" [I think?], etc.
> >
> > Linda
> >
> Superstitions, that's the Irish. Never heard the one about the nose, I
> thought
> it was drop a knife and company's coming in whatever direction the
> knife is
> pointing.
Yep, you got me! My family is Irish. My husband's family has some Irish,
too...Ragan. Mine is McElgunn, with Riley from my father's side. We just
*cling* to the McElgunn part, though...from County Fermanagh.
Linda
DedNdogYrs
college educated professional man with a nice home and family would do
something like this. Usually it's because a child gets on the nerves of
an improvished loser mad at the world with a lot of problems (not that
all poor people are losers). But I have never heard of two children
killed for this reason.
DedNdogYrs
North Carolina. In southern California that will buy you a one story
bungalow with two or three bedrooms in a lower middle class
neighborhood.
eartha...@yahoo.com
Relative says twins' father was depressed
Tragic turn unexplained
GREG LACOUR AND FRED KELLY
Charlotte Observer
Lauren Crespi, a Mecklenburg County man accused of stabbing his twin
5-year-old daughters to death Friday, has suffered from depression for
years and recently told his parents he didn't like a new medication he
was taking, Crespi's father told the Observer on Saturday.
The depression, which began about four years ago, was one of a handful
of medical problems the Wachovia Bank senior vice president suffered
from, said his father, Lauren Crespi of Angels Camp, Calif.
David Crespi was taking antidepressants, and he recently had trouble
getting to sleep, Lauren Crespi said; the new medication was to help
cure his insomnia. His son last year conquered an even bigger threat:
Doctors diagnosed testicular cancer, which is now in remission, Lauren
Crespi said. David Crespi had planned to visit a doctor for a checkup
Friday.
Regardless, David Crespi's father -- along with friends, former
co-workers and neighbors in the affluent Deerfield Creek neighborhood
in southeast Mecklenburg County -- said Saturday he can't imagine why
his son would have done what he's accused of doing.
Lauren Crespi said he visited his son in North Carolina for
Thanksgiving. The family enjoyed a visit to Old Salem in Winston-Salem,
and "there were no signs of trouble."
"I just don't understand why he turned on the children," Lauren Crespi
said. "I just don't know what snapped."
David Crespi, 45, remained in the Mecklenburg County jail Saturday,
charged with two counts of murder. He's scheduled to make his first
appearance in District Court on Monday.
Police arrived at David Crespi's home on Creek Pointe Drive on Friday
afternoon, after a dispatcher told them a man had called 911 and said
he'd stabbed his twin daughters to death and was about to kill himself.
Officers found David Crespi outside and arrested him. Inside, they
found Samantha and Tessara Crespi. Both were pronounced dead at the
home.
Charlotte-Mecklenburg police declined Saturday to disclose details
about the possible motive or weapon used; Sgt. Lee Ann Oehler said she
could not comment on what led to the killings. Police wouldn't release
the 911 recording, saying it's part of the investigation.
David Crespi's wife, Kimberli, was out getting a haircut when the twins
were killed. The three other siblings -- Jessica, 17, Dylan, 14, and
Joshua, 9 -- were at school, authorities said.
The twins were born in Sacramento, Calif., David Crespi's longtime
home, on Oct. 16, 2000. Tessara loved the color purple and dancing,
while Samantha loved lambs, pink poodles and the color blue, according
to their obituary; both enjoyed dressing as princesses.
A funeral is set for Tuesday at St. Matthew Catholic Church in the
Ballantyne area, with other services and burial later in Sacramento.
Neighbors of the Crespis described them as a kind of anchor for their
neighborhood, though they'd lived there only about five years. Most of
their neighbors had lived there for an even shorter time, and the
Crespi children commonly played outside with other children.
"The majority of us don't have family nearby," said a friend and
neighbor who didn't want her name used. "So we become each other's
family."
On Saturday, a few homes down the street from the Crespis', a group of
eight women planned to make dozens of pink ribbons in honor of Samantha
and Tessara and distribute them throughout the neighborhood.
The family was active at St. Matthew, where David Crespi served on the
church's finance committee, said Monsignor John McSweeney, the pastor.
McSweeney said he spent Friday with Kimberli Crespi and the remaining
children, and that the shocked congregation would remember Samantha and
Tessara during services today.
The shock extended across the country, as friends and former neighbors
in the Sacramento area learned the news.
Michael Crowley, who said he's known David Crespi for at least a
decade, said his friend's recent Christmas card and letter led him to
believe everything was going well.
"If you had to interview the model family, they would be who I would
think of," Crowley said. "I can't tell you how inconceivable this is."
David Crespi comes from a family of high achievers. He, his brother and
father all hold degrees from California State University, Sacramento,
where David Crespi graduated in 1983 with an accounting degree. His
brother, John, is an agricultural economics professor at Kansas State
University.
David Crespi was a straight-A student in college, his father said, and
passed the certified public accountant's exam as a senior in college.
He rose to vice president and chief financial officer at Sacramento
Savings Bank before it closed in 1994. He later worked as an
administrator at the Sacramento Housing and Redevelopment Agency and as
an executive at The Money Store, a Sacramento-based home equity lender,
before moving to Charlotte to work for Wachovia, where he was in the
bank's audit division.
Richard Slaymaker of Gold River, Calif., worked with David Crespi for
about three years in the early 1990s, when the two were finance
managers for the housing agency. Slaymaker said his former colleague
isn't just a skilled professional but a respected and well-liked man.
"He was dedicated but had the ability to make everyone like him," he
said. "He was such an outstanding person; I knew we wouldn't be able to
keep him.
"No matter what kind of problems would come up, he could deal with
them. What happened yesterday is so out of the norm, it doesn't make
sense." --
Staff writers Franco Ordoñez, Ken garfield and melissa manware
contributed.
Nancy Rudins
All I ever heard was "God takes care of his idiots."
Kind regards,
Nancy
--
In a world without walls or fences, who needs Windows or Gates?
---unknown author
nru...@ncsa.uiuc.edu
eartha...@yahoo.com
Phoenix
DedNd...@AOL.com says...
This particular Charlotte neighborhood is for newcomers who want to own
a lot of house. The builders take out 90 day loads to construct a
cardboard McMansion, and then sell it to people from places like CA
where the environment doesn't effect these flimsy structures. The
weather here has a serious effect on these houses.
In 10 years, the house will need major overhauling. Foundations will
crack. The "quick and easy" plumbing will start leaking. And if the
house is air tight (and energy efficient) the possibility of molds is
very high.
And the 2-3 bedroom condos, townhouses, and cottages in the established
neighborhoods, go for @$400,000 - $500,000. People are snapping up mill
houses out by old factories for nothing, doing some renovation, and then
selling them for half a mil.
bel
>
>
tiny dancer
"Phoenix" <avian...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Thanks for the clarification bel. I wondered about that myself, as half a
mil. sounded somewhat low for the size of that house. It's the same around
here, one of the reasons we've held on to our first house we bought here.
The quality of workmanship was much better when they were building these
homes 30 plus years ago than it is now. We haven't had any *knock on wood*
major problems with our home in all the years we've owned it. In fact,
another HUGE knock on wood here, we still have the original furnace.
td
>
>
> >
> >
Phoenix
@hotmail.com says...
A lot of people are moving to Charlotte after looking at these paste
board houses, comparing them to prices of their home turf, and thinking
Charlotte is such a wonderful cheap place to live. It ain't.
Not to mention that these "scrape the landscape clean of trees"
developments are at least 45 minutes away from downtown and other jobs
centers...45 minutes in GOOD traffic. So, the traffic sucks, the house
is cheaply made, the air quality is worse than LA's, the landscape is
just fugly after the developers are done, crime is up because the
suburban dreamscapes are heaven for thieves and burglars, etc.
I love my 1300 square ft of 1927 brick. It's cheap to heat - no vaulted
ceilings or Great Rooms where all the heat escapes upward. Air Con is
cheap too, because I have big trees all around. There's a nice park a
block away and restaurants 2 blocks further down. What more could a
person want?
bel
>
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
catherine yronwode
>
> Posted on Sun, Jan. 22, 2006
> Relative says twins' father was depressed
> Tragic turn unexplained
> GREG LACOUR AND FRED KELLY
> Charlotte Observer
>
> Lauren Crespi, a Mecklenburg County man accused of stabbing his twin
> 5-year-old daughters to death Friday, has suffered from depression for
> years and recently told his parents he didn't like a new medication he
> was taking, Crespi's father told the Observer on Saturday.
>
> The depression, which began about four years ago, was one of a handful
> of medical problems the Wachovia Bank senior vice president suffered
> from, said his father, Lauren Crespi of Angels Camp, Calif.
>
> David Crespi was taking antidepressants,
And the brand name of the antidepressant medications was... ????
> and he recently had trouble
> getting to sleep, Lauren Crespi said; the new medication was to help
> cure his insomnia.
And the brand name of the newly prescribed sleep medications was... ????
I really dislike the way the media do NOT report the names of
medications being taken by people who suddenly go psychotic, when the
infomation is not only crucial to the case at hand, but prompt knowledge
about potentially dangerous drug interactions may save other lives.
They report the brands of cars that people crash, the costs of the homes
they live in, the names of their pastors, for God's sake -- but never
the names of the drugs they are taking, unless they are ILLEGAL drugs.
Lauren Crespi knows which antidepressant ans which anti-insomnia drug
David Crespi was taking -- because David had "recently" told Lauren he
did not like the "new medication."
I am not going to stop thinking about this one until i see the names of
the drugs here.
Mumble mumble mumble.
cat yronwode
carm...@gmail.com
> You've got to take a look at the house these people own. Photo at link
> below:
> Charlotte Father Charged In Deaths Of Twin 5-Year-Old Girls
>
> POSTED: 5:03 pm EST January 20, 2006
> UPDATED: 11:29 pm EST January 20, 2006
>
> MATTHEWS, N.C. -- A father was charged Friday with killing his twin
> 5-year-old daughters at their home in an upscale neighborhood outside
> Charlotte, police said.
>
> David Crespi, 45, was charged with two counts of first-degree murder and was
> being held in the Mecklenburg County Jail, police Capt. Brian Cunningham
> said.
SNIP
Best case scenario I can see: his testicular cancer had spread
undetected and metted out to his brain, causing the brain damage that
resulted in the murders. How's *that* for suck?
Carmen
Alan Hope
>I'm 58 and i well recall when Beverly and Lauren (either as short for
>Laurence, or just plain Lauren from in front) were men's names.
Lauren Bacall was a huge star from 1944 on. If that didn't kill off
the idea of naming your boy Lauren, I don't know what would.
--
AH
Alan Hope
How long have you been here?
These cases have nothing to do with "reasons".
Read some of the sensible posts in the thread to see suggestions of
some "possible explanations". But there is no "reason".
--
AH
mary, phd.
> <cro...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:OoFAf.1590$Dk....@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> good heavens, this article has about a dozen writing errors in it...
>
>
> Don't they all, these days? Did you see my complaint about one article
> that
> Tiny Dancer posted? It was *awful*!
I notice that articles written by tv stations (which I believe both this one
and the one TD posted the other day were) commonly contain incorrect
grammar. I'm a stickler for these things, so it blows my mind!
mary, phd.
Kris Baker
"mary, phd." <plain...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Cliff and Linda Griffith" <grif...@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:KUFAf.2767$S56....@fe06.lga...
>> <cro...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:OoFAf.1590$Dk....@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>> good heavens, this article has about a dozen writing errors in it...
>>
>>
>> Don't they all, these days? Did you see my complaint about one article
>> that
>> Tiny Dancer posted? It was *awful*!
>
> I notice that articles written by tv stations (which I believe both this
> one and the one TD posted the other day were) commonly contain incorrect
> grammar. I'm a stickler for these things, so it blows my mind!
>
> mary, phd.
I just cant stand apostrophe's that are commonly mis'used around here.
Kri's
cro...@earthlink.net
that all the time, and while they have to be very circumspect, I am adept at
reading between the lines...
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catherine yronwode
Yeah, well Michael Michelle (the fabled "BQ" of "Homicide:LOTS" and
despoiler of "ER") was pretty popular too (until she got beat down and
her gun took) but folks kept naming their boy-children Michael anyway.
cat yronwode
DedNdogYrs
undetected and metted out to his brain, causing the brain damage that
resulted in the murders. How's *that* for suck? Carmen>
Hadn't even thought of that. That happened to my dog but she didn't
become violent, just ran around in circles and bumped into things. I
guess it could though.
Scorpi...@attnospam.net
<tinyda...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>More photo's at link:
>
>http://www.wcnc.com/news/topstories/stories/wcnc-012005-al-stab_kids.20804541.html
>
Ya know, that's not a bad looking house, and I like the way the street
is set up. TD, can you keep an eye on this one for me incase the sell
it? I bet you could get a great deal on it if they sell.
--
Scorp
It appears that the money has been moved in the
president’s budget to handle homeland security and the war
in Iraq, and I suppose that’s the price we pay.
Nobody locally is happy that the levees can’t be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us.
-- Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, Louisiana; New Orleans Times-Picayune, June 8, 2004.
http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/attytood/archives/002331.html
silver...@gmail.com
Drug companies give whopper "incentives" to docs (???) who prescribe
their drug.
This started when Nancy talked Ronald Regean into deregulating the
pharmacuticuals companies to get AIDS drugs on the market quicker.
Also VIOX was hustled to market.
There are other options available to health care
providers...........but GREED usually takes over.
Anyone wanna bet me it was Respardel or Ambiam being prescribed .!!!!!
de Fragile Warrior Sports Supplies
<silver...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Drug companies give whopper "incentives" to docs (???) who prescribe
> their drug.
Not anymore they don't. It stopped a few years ago.
cro...@earthlink.net
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Strawberry
silver...@gmail.com says...
> catherine yronwode wrote:
> > "eartha...@yahoo.com" wrote:
> > >
> > > Posted on Sun, Jan. 22, 2006
> > > Relative says twins' father was depressed
> > > Tragic turn unexplained
> > > GREG LACOUR AND FRED KELLY
> > > Charlotte Observer
> > >
> > > Lauren Crespi, a Mecklenburg County man accused of stabbing his twin
> > > 5-year-old daughters to death Friday, has suffered from depression for
> > > years and recently told his parents he didn't like a new medication he
> > > was taking, Crespi's father told the Observer on Saturday.
> > >
> > > The depression, which began about four years ago, was one of a handful
> > > of medical problems the Wachovia Bank senior vice president suffered
> > > from, said his father, Lauren Crespi of Angels Camp, Calif.
> > >
> > > David Crespi was taking antidepressants,
> >
> > And the brand name of the antidepressant medications was... ????
If he was depressed, chances are it was a tri-cyclic anti-depressant
such as Trazodone, which will help him to fall asleep. This could be
taken at night while an SSRI such as Prozac or Zoloft could be taken in
the morning. The tri-cyclic may or may not have been taken in
conjunction with a sleep-aid such as Ambien.
cro...@earthlink.net
correctly), I would doubt he would be on TWO anti-dep medications, plus a
sleep aid. I am thinking one anti-dep medication and Ambien to sleep.
ALSO, let's keep in mind it is HIS father offering all this "blame the
medication" theorizing...
"Strawberry" <Idont...@khjlfak.com> wrote in message
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eartha...@yahoo.com
> > "just a mom" <jous...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:11t6ana...@corp.supernews.com...
> > > You know what's interesting about that picture? The only
> > > children portrayed are the twins. Is that common in large
> > > families... to have portraits done with some, but not all, of
> > > the children living in the home? We've certainly never done
> > > that in my family. Whenever my husband and I have had family
> > > portraits done, we've gathered every child still living at
> > > home, and as many of the adult children as we could get
> > > together. Because all but two (yes, for those who keep up, we
> > > took in another child) of our kids are now adults and living
> > > on their own, we tend to have family portraits taken during
> > > family gatherings. Fortunately, one of our family members is
> > > a pretty decent photographer.
> > >
> > > I just wanted to mention that it seems weird to me. Am I the
> > > only one?
> > >
> > > Dani K.
> >
> > As one who gathered her family together in November for a Family Portrait,
> I
> > will say that it's odd. The studio people took pictures of each married
> > couple, the entire family, each of the two children, and the two children
> > together. I must say, though, that in the past, the studio has taken
> shots
> > of every grouping that they could imagine: the children, the parents with
> > the children, the grandparents with the children, the entire family, each
> > adult couple, etc. But never "one child with a parent or parents" as this
> > seems to be. We don't have twins, but I think "one child with a parent"
> is
> > comparable. I, too, think that's odd. If it was a home-picture, there's
> no
> > telling what groupings they might have; but professional portraits
> wouldn't
> > have that particular sitting.
> >
> > I've forgotten which children are whose in this case, but still: when you
> > co-mingle families, you don't usually have pictures taken showing "his,
> > mine, and ours".
> >
> > Linda
>
>
> Could be something as simple as a church portrait, or one in a number of
> poses. Or a *free offer*, used when the other kids were other places at the
> time. Sometimes it's hard to get all the members of a family together at
> the same time, especially when the older kids are teens.
>
>
> td
It's one in a series of poses. Here's the entire family in the
portrait.
http://www.wcnc.com/news/topstories/stories/D_IMAGE.108c88e2655.93.88.fa.d0.337ea511.jpg
vivisectrix
>>>>The only children portrayed are the twins.
>>>I will say that it's odd.
>>>you don't usually have pictures taken showing "his, mine, and ours".
>It's one in a series of poses. Here's the entire family in the portrait.
>http://www.wcnc.com/news/topstories/stories/D_IMAGE.108c88e2655.93.88.fa.d0.337ea511.jpg
Compare and Contrast. The pic we were looking at from:
http://www.news14charlotte.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=111628
is the same pic you just showed us. Somone (the newspaper, I suspect, that
printed it) airbrushed the other three kids out.
My guess is someone was thinking it wouldn't be polite to paste pictures
of three innocent children all over the world, especially considering the
crime involved. Made for an interesting discussion, but not weird after
all.
Thanks for finding that and clarifying for us, Earthage.
Vivi
--
I wanna play with a pathetic suicidal masochist.