A public thank you to Danny Rolling from JOE
Jen1orbit
Hello,
I want to take this opportunity to publicly thank Danny Rolling for
painting an original oil portrait for me. Danny painted it last month,
specifically for me, and I am very grateful to him for sharing his
artistic gift with me, and for expressing his empathy with my reality,
through this original oil painting.
I will be getting the painting framed, possibly in blood red, or
possibly in gold-leaf, I have not yet decided, and I will consider it a
treasured possession. Many times I will run my fingers over the smooth
surface of the painting, and feel a true kinship with Danny. His reality
and my reality, connecting on this intimate level of artistic expression.
I am proud that Danny understands the true reality that I have expressed
in my posts, and I'm very glad that he felt inspired enough to create this
original oil painting for me.
If anyone wants to see a scan of the original oil painting that Danny
made for me, it can be viewed by going to the following URL:
http://members.aol.com/danrolling/undetect.html
Thank you, Danny. Your reality is pure and sincere and genuine, unlike
so many of the so-called "good" people who condemn you to death and whose
own lives are seeped in hypocrisy and lies and derangement. I will never
forget the beauty of your badly damaged, but still living, soul. May we
both live to see this culture and society collapse and implode upon
itself, as it so richly deserves to do.
Take care, JOE
"Every day thousands of brand-new human beings are drawn from their
mothers' wombs-- naked, vulnerable, and completely dependent on those who
hold their destiny cradled in their arms. So begins life on this tiny blue
planet. The light shines for the first time through an infant's bewildered
eyes, illuminating a once-blank mind. And so begins the learning process.
All the child experiences, beginning with that first beam of light, will
inevitably mold what he or she becomes. Children cannot see the future, or
compare beyond the scope of what we teach them. As children grow in mind,
body, and spirit, those who have charge over that process have a great
responsibility to nurture a healthy environment for those ever-learning
tender souls, so that they can expand and develop into productive,
creative, beautiful human beings, unique and special in their own rare
forms.
Ah, but alas. There are hate factories that churn and grind a troubled
mind into something so hideous that we refuse to even study the causes
that create such a beast. In our flawed society, if it can't be
understood, we either remove it from our sight, take it apart, or destroy
it. Love and understanding go a long way in the development of a young
pliable mind. Not the belt, not harsh, hateful, damning words, and
certainly not a slap in the face. Remember that little one is a person
too, with the same feelings and emotions of an adult, only magnified
tenfold. The only way to prevent crime ins to treat the cause, not the
symptom. Human souls are sucked in one end of these hate factoreies and
fire-breathing dragons are vomited out the other
end."--------------------Danny Rolling, quote from: The Making Of A
Serial Killer.
MaryHedman
JOE quotes Danny Rolling as saying, in The Making of a Serial Killer:
>Love and understanding go a long way in the development of a young
>pliable mind. Not the belt, not harsh, hateful, damning words, and
>certainly not a slap in the face
So, some belt spankings, verbal upbraiding and slaps in the face will
produce a serial killer? Geez, in my parents' generation, virtually every
child received that sort of treament on occasion. Now that corporal
discipline is frowned upon, we have more killers than ever.
When Danny was standing in front of the court at his sentencing, dabbing
his eyes and begging for leniency, I wanted to slap him myself.
Mary
Johnny Rogaine
I checked out the painting--it's gorgeous. Sondra, does Danny have any
formal art training or is he self-taught? And does he paint on canvas or
board or what? (Is my interest in Art showing through here?)
He's also a pretty decent writer...
Johnny Rogaine, a student of painting, doncha know.
(posted and mailed to all involved)
> it. Love and understanding go a long way in the development of a young
> pliable mind. Not the belt, not harsh, hateful, damning words, and
Agent@large
Since Joe isn't responding to any more "flames", I thought I'd fill in
for him:
Hello,
Sure you wanted to slap Danny. But you should really slap your society
in the face.
As a matter of fact, I went to your society's house the other day
(right after visiting Danny) and you know what your society said to
me? Your society said: "Joe, I really hate people - especially
children - so that's why I make people commit crimes." And then he
told me what I always suspected (although I can't prove it because
your society is the biggest liar and he'll deny he even said it). Your
society leaned forward, and with a big grin, he said: "I'm the
Undetectable Serial Killer."
So you see? You want to slap Danny, a man who - like me - was
subjected to your society's injustices and abuse. But YOU are the
"sheeple" who would kiss and hug (and probably copulate with) your
society instead of seeing the truth that I (in my 13 year-old mind)
and Danny realize. You people and your society can suck eggs! The rage
that I feel is all your society's fault and you are extremely lucky I
don't act out my rage against you all.
I'm just too smart and clever for you.
Take care.
On 4 Apr 1997 13:34:38 GMT, maryh...@aol.com (MaryHedman) wrote:
>JOE quotes Danny Rolling as saying, in The Making of a Serial Killer:
>
>>Love and understanding go a long way in the development of a young
>>pliable mind. Not the belt, not harsh, hateful, damning words, and
Pagan
In <334526...@aol.com> Johnny Rogaine <Anonym444...@aol.com>
writes:
>I checked out the painting--it's gorgeous. Sondra, does Danny have any
>formal art training or is he self-taught? And does he paint on canvas
or
>board or what? (Is my interest in Art showing through here?)
>
>He's also a pretty decent writer...
>
>Johnny Rogaine, a student of painting, doncha know.
>(posted and mailed to all involved)
Well, Johnny, have to agree and disagree with you there. My
definition of art is pretty prosaic: whatever looks good over my couch
is art. This painting wouldn't look good over my couch, but my guess
is it looks just right over Joe's couch. The letter, though!! Now,
that's art.
Marinda
Kolaga
On 4 Apr 1997 17:20:34 GMT, them...@ix.netcom.com(Pagan) wrote:
>In <334526...@aol.com>
> Johnny Rogaine <Anonym444...@aol.com> writes:
>>
>>I checked out the painting--it's gorgeous. Sondra, does Danny have any
>>formal art training or is he self-taught? And does he paint on canvas
>or board or what? (Is my interest in Art showing through here?)
I'd be interested in seeing any "cut and paste" collage works of DR.
Elestria
Johnny Rogaine, a student of painting, doncha know, wrote: I checked out
the painting--it's gorgeous. Sondra, does Danny have any
formal art training or is he self-taught? And does he paint on canvas or
board or what? (Is my interest in Art showing through here?)
***
I'm glad you like the portrait of JOE he calls "Deja Vu." I thought he
really caught JOE's psychopathic "outsider" charisma, and he portrays the
rage and alienation he picked up just from reading JOE's USENET postings.
In the original canvas, you can see the way the red paint is dabbed on
very thick in violent, visceral gobs. It's tough to portray that level of
detail in a small scan of a big painting, displayed at 72 dpi. The scanner
light reflects off the shiny surface of the oil paint, creating those
"special challenges" we love.
I will be posting a revolving selection of his artwork to the Killer Art
section of the Rolling Home page. I'm currently updating the last version
and adding on a section called 'BABES.'
Danny does not have any formal art training. He has always enjoyed
drawing, but he had never painted in oil until the summer of 1994, after
his murder trial. He has painted 32 canvases since then.
He paints in oils on canvas with brushes, all of which I send him.
For those who may have missed the URL of Danny Rolling's portrait of Joe
with his response to Joe's Undetectable Serial Killer essay... here it
is...
http://members.aol.com/danrolling/joe.html
The Erisian Elestria
Danny Rolling Home Page:
http://members.aol.com/danrolling/home.html
Goddess lives:
http://members.aol.com/Elestria/Eris.html
doug haire
MaryHedman (maryh...@aol.com) wrote:
: JOE quotes Danny Rolling as saying, in The Making of a Serial Killer:
:
: >Love and understanding go a long way in the development of a young
: >pliable mind. Not the belt, not harsh, hateful, damning words, and
: >certainly not a slap in the face
:
: So, some belt spankings, verbal upbraiding and slaps in the face will
: produce a serial killer? Geez, in my parents' generation, virtually every
: child received that sort of treament on occasion. Now that corporal
: discipline is frowned upon, we have more killers than ever.
Thank you for recognizing the fact that corporal punishment was given a
stigma (about the early 50's) and for reminding me that corporal
punishment was much worse in the early half of the century and before
that.
: When Danny was standing in front of the court at his sentencing, dabbing
: his eyes and begging for leniency, I wanted to slap him myself.
He was probably mimicing the pleas of his victims.
--
[[ my actual login name is dhaire, not d.haire ]]
Terry Hallinan
d.h...@gate.net (doug haire) wrote:
>MaryHedman (maryh...@aol.com) wrote:
>: JOE quotes Danny Rolling as saying, in The Making of a Serial Killer:
>: >Love and understanding go a long way in the development of a young
>: >pliable mind. Not the belt, not harsh, hateful, damning words, and
>: >certainly not a slap in the face
>: So, some belt spankings, verbal upbraiding and slaps in the face will
>: produce a serial killer? Geez, in my parents' generation, virtually every
>: child received that sort of treament on occasion. Now that corporal
>: discipline is frowned upon, we have more killers than ever.
>Thank you for recognizing the fact that corporal punishment was given a
>stigma (about the early 50's) and for reminding me that corporal
>punishment was much worse in the early half of the century and before
>that.
Ted Kaczynski seems (just from appearances) to come from a superb
family. It is true of many monsters. And saints are more likely to
be made from harsh conditions than easy.
Blame - and credit - are too easily given. The oft-repeated slogan
about abusive parents having been abused doesn't even make sense on
the face of it. No one can draw the line to determine who is abused
and who is not. Abuse of children by any measure is so common to make
such shibboleths meaningless.
A little humility is in order but you will get none from the great
societal engineers - from the Pat Robertsons through the Hillary
Clintons. The only ones who really succeed are the madmen who lead
their followers off to a far better place.
Not easy civilizing people.
>: When Danny was standing in front of the court at his sentencing, dabbing
>: his eyes and begging for leniency, I wanted to slap him myself.
>He was probably mimicing the pleas of his victims.
>--
>[[ my actual login name is dhaire, not d.haire ]]
Best, Terry
"Lawyer - One skilled in circumvention of the law"
- The Devil's Dictionary
Elestria
>MaryHedman (maryh...@aol.com) wrote:
When Danny was standing in front of the court at his sentencing, dabbing
>: his eyes and begging for leniency
***
Sorry, you must have him mixed up with someone else. He did not beg for
leniency, and he did not dab his eyes. He stood there stoically with his
hands beside him. He admitted his guilt. He expressed his remorse. He did
not ask for any consideration whatsoever. Only his mother, via videotaped
statement, asked for mercy.