Re: Man arrested for mere possession of legal guns in Denver!
Reality_CheckŠ
> dan_mouse <dan_...@hotmail.com> wrote :
>
>> There are some logical inconsistencies here:
>>
>> On Aug 25, 9:06 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
>> <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> there are som>
>>> Police say Calanchini had permits for the rifles,
>>
>> There is no such thing as a "permit for a rifle" in Colorado or
>> Wyoming.
>> Wyoming and Colorado do not require or issue permits for long guns.
>> You do not need one to purchase, use, possess, or carry them.
>> If you are of age, and have no criminal or mental history the law
>> only forbids carrying them in a fashion that could be construed as
>> threatening or brandishing.
>>
>>> but did not have concealed permits to carry two pistols that were
>>> found i
>> n his luggage.
>>
>> The concealed carry permit is only required if you are carrying the
>> handgun concealed "on or about you person".
>> You do not need any license or permit to carry in your vehicle, or to
>> open carry in Colorado.
>> (However, Denver has a law that forbids open carry. This law
>> violates state law, but was allowed to stand after a judge ruled that
>> Denver has "Home Rule" which allows the law to stand.)
>> There is no permit required to carry a handgun if it is not concealed
>> on or about your person.
>> Is a suitcase "on or about your person"?
>> I think most sane people would consider that an appropriate way to
>> carry a pistol while checking into a hotel.
>>
>>> Calanchini says he forgot they were in there.
>> I'm sure this is just from a guy who is scared that maybe he broke
>> some law that the cops made up.
>>>
>>> He was charged with unlawfully carrying weapons, a misdemeanor.
>>> Calanchin
>> i
>>> is being held on $10,000 bond at the Denver City Jail.
>>>
>>> Has nothing to do with pelosi being there.
>>
>> If Pelosi and the DNC weren't there, he never would have been
>> questioned or arrested in the first place.
>> Carrying a rifle into a hotel (in a case) is not illegal and would
>> not have even raised suspicion if party bigwigs weren't in the
>> building.
>>
>> I understand that he was questioned, with tightened security and all,
>> but if his story made sense, and he wasn't some kook, that should
>> have been all. Perhaps they could have offered to store his firearms
>> in the safe until he checked out. But instead they arrested him on
>> seemingly bogus charges just to make Pelosi and friends feel like the
>> police were doing a bang up job.
>>
>> Maybe the guy is crazy, and they are not releasing all the details to
>> the media, but if not, this guy is owed a huge apology and probably a
>> monetary settlement for his troubles.
>>
>> -Dan
>
> Why doesn't NRA step in and defend him, and find him a lawyer to sue
> the city?!
Because they aren't as stupid as you are ...
Reality_CheckŠ
> On Aug 26, 8:53 am, "Wayne" <mygarbage...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>
>>
>>
>>> Sarah Houston <SHo...@pndfnospam.com> wrote in
>>> news:Xns9B04EEB192D1ASn...@216.196.97.142:
>>
>>>>> Here is further proof that the Denver PD and D.A.'s office have
>>>>> become insane.
>>
>>>>> http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=98258&catid=188
>>
>>>> Yes, and why doesn't the guy sue their backsides off, instead of
>>>> being all meek and apologetic?
>>
>>>> Should he have to be in jail because their highnesses were staying
>>>> at the same hotel?
>>
>>> Police say Calanchini had permits for the rifles, but did not have
>>> concealed permits to carry two pistols that were found in his
>>
>>> He was charged with unlawfully carrying weapons, a misdemeanor.
>>
>>> ----------
>>
>>> Has nothing to do with pelosi being there.
>>
>> Sure it does. The heightened security around Pelosi caused the desk
>> clerk to call attention to the guy's gun case. It's still not clear
>> that he did anything wrong, unless there are some squirrelly Denver
>> laws that he was unaware of.
>
> He was carrying a concealed weapon without a permit. What sort of
> "squirrely law" do you think applies here?
Asswipe gun-nuts like Wayne think the "law" only applies to "other people".
Reality_CheckŠ
> "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote
> :
>
>> Sarah Houston <SHo...@pndfnospam.com> wrote in
>> news:Xns9B04EEB192D1ASn...@216.196.97.142:
>>
>>>> Here is further proof that the Denver PD and D.A.'s office have
>>>> become insane.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=98258&catid=188
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, and why doesn't the guy sue their backsides off, instead of
>>> being all meek and apologetic?
>>>
>>> Should he have to be in jail because their highnesses were staying
>>> at the same hotel?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Police say Calanchini had permits for the rifles, but did not have
>> concealed permits to carry two pistols that were found in his
>> luggage. Calanchini says he forgot they were in there.
>>
>> He was charged with unlawfully carrying weapons, a misdemeanor.
>> Calanchini is being held on $10,000 bond at the Denver City Jail.
>
Your ignorance knows no bounds ....
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> Asswipe gun-nuts like Wayne think the "law" only applies to "other people".
>
>
>
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Reality_CheckŠ
> Reality_CheckŠ wrote:
>> dan_mouse wrote:
>>> There are some logical inconsistencies here:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Police say Calanchini had permits for the rifles,
>>> Wyoming.
>>> Wyoming and Colorado do not require or issue permits for long guns.
>>> You do not need one to purchase, use, possess, or carry them.
>>> If you are of age, and have no criminal or mental history the law
>>> only
>>> forbids carrying them in a fashion that could be construed as
>>> threatening or brandishing.
>>>
>>>
>>>> found in his luggage.
>>> handgun concealed "on or about you person".
>>> You do not need any license or permit to carry in your vehicle,
>>
>>
>>> or to open carry in Colorado.
>>> (However, Denver has a law that forbids open carry. This law
>>> violates
>>> state law, but was allowed to stand after a judge ruled that Denver
>>> has "Home Rule" which allows the law to stand.)
>>> There is no permit required to carry a handgun if it is not
>>> concealed on or about your person.
>>> Is a suitcase "on or about your person"?
>>
>>
>> If you can't figure that one out, then do not pass go, do not
>> collect $200 ...
>>
>>
> Some of Prof. Jonez greatest hits. Yes, he really did author the
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Reality_CheckŠ
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Reality_CheckŠ
> Reality_CheckŠ wrote:
>> Sarah Houston wrote:
>>> "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Sarah Houston <SHo...@pndfnospam.com> wrote in
>>>> news:Xns9B04EEB192D1ASn...@216.196.97.142:
>>>>
>>>>>> Here is further proof that the Denver PD and D.A.'s office have
>>>>>> become insane.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=98258&catid=188
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, and why doesn't the guy sue their backsides off, instead of
>>>>> being all meek and apologetic?
>>>>>
>>>>> Should he have to be in jail because their highnesses were staying
>>>>> at the same hotel?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Police say Calanchini had permits for the rifles, but did not have
>>>> concealed permits to carry two pistols that were found in his
>>>> luggage. Calanchini says he forgot they were in there.
>>>>
>>>> He was charged with unlawfully carrying weapons, a misdemeanor.
>>>> Calanchini is being held on $10,000 bond at the Denver City Jail.
>>> Since when do we need permits to have guns in luggage???
>>
>> Your ignorance knows no bounds ....
>>
>>
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Reality_CheckŠ
> Reality_CheckŠ wrote:
>
> Colorado Scooters
> 1207 E.11th Ave.
> Denver CO 80218
>
Reality_CheckŠ
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> Reality Check:
>
>>> There is no permit required to carry a handgun if it is not
>>> concealed on or about your person.
>>> Is a suitcase "on or about your person"?
>>
>>
>> If you can't figure that one out, then do not pass go, do not
>> collect $200
>>
> It was defined as follows:
> "The words "about the person" means sufficiently close to the person
> to be readily accessible for immediate use. People in Interest of
> R.J.A., 38 Colo. App. 346, 556 P.2d 491 (1976)."
>
> It looks like that definition will have to be decided by a jury since
> the police made such a spectacle of this case, they probably won;t
> drop the charges.
>
> But as others have pointed out, if unloaded and zipped up
It's irrelevant to the Colorado law whether it's loaded or unloaded,
jackass.
> in a
> suitcase is considered readily accessible for immediate use, then
> having it in the box while you leave the store where you bought it and
> walk to your car would also be considered "concealed" which by any
> rational standard seems a stretch of the definition.
Too bad you're not a lawyer ... LOL!
> May I ask how would you suggest carrying a pistol to your hotel room?
Here's a hint, moron -- without BREAKING THE LAW.
> I certainly wouldn't leave it in the car where it could be stolen.
>
> And on a personal note to RealityCheck. Why do feel it is necessary
> to be so abrasive in an otherwise cordial argument?
Why do you feel it necessary to be so pig-ignorant about a subject,
but still shoot your mouth off about it in public?
Reality_CheckŠ
> On Aug 26, 6:40 pm, "Reality_CheckŠ" <Real...@Check.it> wrote:
>>> The concealed carry permit is only required if you are carrying the
>>> handgun concealed "on or about you person".
>>> You do not need any license or permit to carry in your vehicle,
>>
>>
> Oh yeah, this one too.
> This is an excerpt from Colorado State Statutes:
> "18-12-105. Unlawfully carrying a concealed weapon - unlawful
> possession of weapons.
> (2) It shall not be an offense if the defendant was:
> (b) A person in a private automobile or other private means of
> conveyance who carries a weapon for lawful protection of such person's
> or another's person or property while traveling; "
And Denver's law ?
>
> And if you think that Denver's "Home rule" can overide this law...That
> was shot down in 2002.
Do tell.
> "The local ordinance concerning carrying a weapon in a private vehicle
> is not preempted since it can be harmonized with subsection (2)(b).
> Trinen v. City & County of Denver, 53 P.3d 754 (Colo. App. 2002)."
It's augmented, not pre-emptive.
Reality_Check�
>> Asswipe gun-nuts like Wayne think the "law" only applies to "other
>> people".
>
> Colorado Scooters
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> Colorado Scooters
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> On Aug 26, 11:19 pm, "Reality_CheckŠ" <Real...@Check.it> wrote:
>> will bonney wrote:
>>>> Asswipe gun-nuts like Wayne think the "law" only applies to "other
>>>> people".
>>
>>> Colorado Scooters
>>> 1207 E.11th Ave.
>>> Denver CO 80218
>>
>> What's your point, eh numbnuts?
>>
>> "What heterosexual male would feel insulted at being compared
>> to that most fascinating of the female anatomy, the vagina? None."
>> -- Kent Wills holds forth on heterosexual manhood
>
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