OT: ANDREA: Portrait of a Backstabber
shar...@mindspring.com
there is some
>>dirty dealing that I want no part of ever again. My list
is doing
>>just fine as it is but the amount of posts we used to have
will come
>>back again until the next one rips off my concept.
Actually it makes
>>me proud that someone can start a list as an offshoot of
my list. I
>>must have done something right. :o)
>>
>>Penny
>Dirty dealing? I don't know the parties involved, but I'm
betting they just got
>tired of your tyranny. As for stealing your concept,
believe it or not, there
>were several crime lists already going when you started
yours. It's unfair to
>say that someone is stealing your thunder because they
started their own list.
>
>Hester Mofet
I think it's about time to introduce the little darling who
lied to a dying woman and a host of hand-picked gossip
mongers, backstabbed a trusting friend or three, deleted an
e-list, traveled 1200 miles to get laid by a neurotic gun
nut who sent her packing when he got his rocks off, and
topped it all off by blaming, who else, Jason.
Here's an exerpt of a chat log with this little angel. I
think I'll post more of this log as the "Bash Penny and her
List" fever grows.
Crikket 9 is Andrea
KaEfErKyRmIT is Penny
This log is an early one, before Andrea finally threw all
her cards on the table. Penny was still giving her the
benefit of a doubt.
KaEfErKyRmIT: you still hold so much faith in David yet so
little in me.. *sigh*
Crikket 9: thats not true penny but reread my short story I
have a really hard time letting go of the
hope
KaEfErKyRmIT: I know .. but these things didn't happen to
you until he entered the picture, Andrea
Crikket 9: where do i get the posts from yesterday and today
Crikket 9: i know that penny I know
KaEfErKyRmIT: Andrea .. sweetie... I have dealt with that
guy for close to 2 years now
KaEfErKyRmIT: I know he is one not to trust .. I know that
.. but I was willing to put that aside for
you .. knowing you love him so much .. but not any more .. I
will not sit back and let him get away
with what he did to True-CrimeChat or TCCPrivate .. and I
pray to God you go to the police and
help me end this once and for all
Crikket 9: I honestly think I know him too though and I want
him to tell me he did it if he did, i just
want to give him the oppertunity to tell me
Crikket 9: I mam not saying I am not calling the police I am
just saying I want to ask him first
KaEfErKyRmIT: he is a liar .. he won't tell you the truth ..
damn .. that last Saturday you were with
him should show you that, Andrea .. but I can not force you
to do what I think it the right thing to do
..
KaEfErKyRmIT: but please .. don't ask me to not mention what
has happened .. I owe that jerk
nothing .. notta .. he made my life a living hell yesterday
with those emails alone.. I won't let it go ..
not this time
KaEfErKyRmIT: I am sorry for it all . .I really am .. but
enough is enough .. he has shit on the
wrong person this time .. fun and games are over
Crikket 9: ok take me off the list
KaEfErKyRmIT: why?
Crikket 9: because I want nothing to do with any of it.
everybody got hurt including me and I am
done
KaEfErKyRmIT: unbelievable .. you are protecting him, aren't
you?
KaEfErKyRmIT: You know he did it, Andrea .. *sigh*
Crikket 9: NO I AM PROTECTING MYSELF SOMEWTHING NO ONE ELSE
CARES TO DO
KaEfErKyRmIT: I haven't hurt you, Andrea .. I have done all
I can to let you know I am in your
corner
KaEfErKyRmIT: what have you done to show me you are as loyal
to me as I am to you?
KaEfErKyRmIT: that is not true.. I have been protecting you
all along#
KaEfErKyRmIT: I have gone along with everyone of your
requests of me .. and you know it
KaEfErKyRmIT: I just made a post to the list about us being
hacked in the manner you wanted me
to
Crikket 9: what have I done? I have stood up for you I have
helped even out situations you caused
by talking on alt tc, I have been your friend, I trusted
you,
KaEfErKyRmIT: My God .. I could have come down so hard and
think that you did delete our
group .. but I didn't because I feel the same way .. I trust
you .. I still do
KaEfErKyRmIT: I would trust you to take my beloved Grandson
to a vacation at your house .. that
is how much I trust you ..
KaEfErKyRmIT: I am not asking you to turn David in.. I am
not even requesting you mention his
name .. but I am asking you to go to the police and let them
find out who did this .. without warning
Lohr or anyone
Crikket 9: no you dont trust me you just know aI am too
fucking stupid to know how to do it I DID
NOT DO IT
KaEfErKyRmIT: Andrea .. that is not true .. if I thought you
did it.. do you honestly think I would
even be talking to you right now?
KaEfErKyRmIT: Do you think I would waste my money to call
you on the phone if I thought you did
that?
Crikket 9: point taken
KaEfErKyRmIT: *sigh* how much more do I have to do to show
you I am a loyal friend to you?
KaEfErKyRmIT: You are not being fair to me at all and I am
hurt about that
AgonyInBlk
<<snip>>
Hmnnn. Assuming the log hasn't been manipulated, one has to believe that
sharonpo has been supplied the IM log from one of the two parties. Obviously,
Andrea isn't the one.
As well. Can you cite proof, sharonpo, that the list was deleted by Andrea? Has
the LE or ISP made public the information that it was definitely Andrea? I'd be
interested in seeing the proof of that.
As well, proof of the backstabbing a friend or three would be nice, too. After
all, somebody like me usually waits to see proof before accepting somebody
guilt, as when you were named as Marnie and the lart.com situation became
public.
By the way, in the tossing around of the term: "liar" in the alleged IM log,
has anybody got any proof to back up the claims when they're made?
And, finally, you did notice that in the entire IM, Penny blames another person
until the end and suggests that she wouldn't even talk to Andrea if she
believed she had deleted the list, even going so far as to suggest she'd trust
her (Andrea) with her grandchild?
I await proof provided that it was definitely Andrea who deleted TCC (something
Penny hadn't suggested earlier in the postings her the days after TCC got
deleted), that it's traceable to both a screen name and dial-up number, and
that the ISP has taken any action against Andrea. Seeing as how Jason got
maligned here recently when it *appreared* he'd posted something, and I'll give
him the same benefit as I'd give you or anybody else, I think applying the same
standard is fair across the board.
Best,
JM
Best,
JM
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Dog3
<shar...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Charming and so typical of you Sharon. Penny forwards a private
IM to you and you post it. You are beyond filth. It's time
everyone stuffed you back in the killfile. Hmmmm.... maybe not.
You smell like rotting cheese at this moment. The fact that Penny
betrayed a friend leads me to believe the 2 of you are indeed
perfect bedfellows. It won't work. Everyone sees the light. I
think you all need to move to a different ng. Take this to
alt.flame.each-other and have a ball. You'll enjoy it.
Penny's list sucks, it's down the tubes and there's nothing you're
doing to help it. Sharon, you love stirring shit. Penny, watch
your back, you'll eventually get it from Sharon. Everyone else
has. My guess is, she's trying to take Joe1's place. She's
quickly trying to destroy your list with negative posts. You
obviously fwd the IM to her and she posted it. Do you really
think your posters are going to enjoy Sharon's relish in posting
posting posts from a private IM or a private listserve (done in
the past) to this public ng?
You're both nuts.
Michael <- not eating these nuts by a long shot
Dog3
"AgonyInBlk" <agony...@aol.com> wrote in message
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100% agreed, I'm just too tired to elaborate.
Michael
shar...@mindspring.com
>
> <<snip>>
>
> Hmnnn. Assuming the log hasn't been manipulated, one has
to believe that
> sharonpo has been supplied the IM log from one of the two
parties. Obviously,
> Andrea isn't the one.
The log hasn't been manipulated. I was supplied the log from
one of the two parties.
>
> As well. Can you cite proof, sharonpo, that the list was
deleted by Andrea? Has
> the LE or ISP made public the information that it was
definitely Andrea? I'd be
> interested in seeing the proof of that.
I, personally, don't have the proof. I was told by a third
party that E-Groups, or whatever the proper designation is,
said that the list was deleted by the Cricket9 account. LE
was not involved.
>
> As well, proof of the backstabbing a friend or three would
be nice, too. After
> all, somebody like me usually waits to see proof before
accepting somebody
> guilt, as when you were named as Marnie and the lart.com
situation became
> public.
Stay tuned. More chat logs will follow. There may even be a
few .wav files made available.
>
> By the way, in the tossing around of the term: "liar" in
the alleged IM log,
> has anybody got any proof to back up the claims when
they're made?
>
Heh, it's a conversation between two people who know
*exactly* what they're discussing. You'll have to ask them.
> And, finally, you did notice that in the entire IM, Penny
blames another person
> until the end and suggests that she wouldn't even talk to
Andrea if she
> believed she had deleted the list, even going so far as to
suggest she'd trust
> her (Andrea) with her grandchild?
It's not an IM and it's not the entirety of the log. As I
said, it's an early edition. The logs span a period of days.
Stay tuned.
>
> I await proof provided that it was definitely Andrea who
deleted TCC (something
> Penny hadn't suggested earlier in the postings her the
days after TCC got
> deleted), that it's traceable to both a screen name and
dial-up number, and
> that the ISP has taken any action against Andrea. Seeing
as how Jason got
> maligned here recently when it *appreared* he'd posted
something, and I'll give
> him the same benefit as I'd give you or anybody else, I
think applying the same
> standard is fair across the board.
There were two separate violations. Andrea, herself, will
acknowledge that the TCC deletion came from her account.
There have been legal obstacles to getting the release of
information for the second violation.
Just FYI, these logs are not offered as *proof* of anything;
not are they offered as *promises* of proof. I'm posting
them because Andrea abused a dying woman by lying to her
when, even if what she told her *had* been the truth, there
was no reason to tell her at all.
Andrea sucker-punched two people who trusted her and has
somehow convinced a number of people that she's been a
victim.
Stay tuned.....
shar...@mindspring.com
Dog3 <do...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
> <shar...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:986rs3$69b$1...@slb0.atl.mindspring.net...
Don't fret, furball. You're mentioned in the logs, too.
Stay tuned...
Wyn
wrote...
An e-penny-dreadful(pun not intended)/chapbook! I can't wait for part two ;)
Wyn
NEON NAPPI
have done , and I seriously doubt you did what you are being accused of,( it's
not the first time someone else used someone's account to create mischief)
*nothing* is as bad as posting what was obviously a painful and very personal
conversation.
There is nothing that sharon can post that doesnt make Penny look worse than
anything you could have even dreamed of doing. There is little posters here
tolerate less than posting of personal email or whatever it was.
Believe me, the persons who bother to read these threads have already chosen
*sides* and I cant imagine anyone cares who might have tanked Penny's list. I
never saw such a fuss being made over a list being out of commission for what
was it? a day?
I think what is happening is that Penny's list may be in trouble and she has to
blame someone. What she apparently has never been able to understand is she is
the one who ruins things for herself. Had she not been part of the attack on
you here I do believe her list would be thriving but since the time that she
threw Jack Olsen off of her list and attacked him behind his back so that he
couldnt answer, I think she lost credibility in some posters eyes and they may
have lost interest.
I'll probably be thrown off ( again) myself for daring to respond to this but
enough is enough.
Barbara
Dog3
<shar...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
> AgonyInBlk <agony...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20010307234034...@ng-mq1.aol.com...
> > sharonpo posted:
> >
> > <<snip>>
> >
> > Hmnnn. Assuming the log hasn't been manipulated, one has
> to believe that
> > sharonpo has been supplied the IM log from one of the two
> parties. Obviously,
> > Andrea isn't the one.
>
>
> The log hasn't been manipulated. I was supplied the log from
> one of the two parties.
Uh-Huh.... more like one party.
>
> >
> > As well. Can you cite proof, sharonpo, that the list was
> deleted by Andrea? Has
> > the LE or ISP made public the information that it was
> definitely Andrea? I'd be
> > interested in seeing the proof of that.
>
>
> I, personally, don't have the proof. I was told by a third
> party that E-Groups, or whatever the proper designation is,
> said that the list was deleted by the Cricket9 account. LE
> was not involved.
If you can't supply proof STFU. You're as bad as Jason with your
unfounded lies.
>
>
> >
> > As well, proof of the backstabbing a friend or three would
> be nice, too. After
> > all, somebody like me usually waits to see proof before
> accepting somebody
> > guilt, as when you were named as Marnie and the lart.com
> situation became
> > public.
>
>
> Stay tuned. More chat logs will follow. There may even be a
> few .wav files made available.
Charming. You've sunk to the lowest, right along with Penny and
Jason.
>
> >
> > By the way, in the tossing around of the term: "liar" in
> the alleged IM log,
> > has anybody got any proof to back up the claims when
> they're made?
> >
>
> Heh, it's a conversation between two people who know
> *exactly* what they're discussing. You'll have to ask them.
But you'll post it right? Sharon, I'm so surprised. You've
become a minion.
>
>
> > And, finally, you did notice that in the entire IM, Penny
> blames another person
> > until the end and suggests that she wouldn't even talk to
> Andrea if she
> > believed she had deleted the list, even going so far as to
> suggest she'd trust
> > her (Andrea) with her grandchild?
>
>
> It's not an IM and it's not the entirety of the log. As I
> said, it's an early edition. The logs span a period of days.
> Stay tuned.
I can't wait for you to post more personal info.
>
>
> >
> > I await proof provided that it was definitely Andrea who
> deleted TCC (something
> > Penny hadn't suggested earlier in the postings her the
> days after TCC got
> > deleted), that it's traceable to both a screen name and
> dial-up number, and
> > that the ISP has taken any action against Andrea. Seeing
> as how Jason got
> > maligned here recently when it *appreared* he'd posted
> something, and I'll give
> > him the same benefit as I'd give you or anybody else, I
> think applying the same
> > standard is fair across the board.
>
>
> There were two separate violations. Andrea, herself, will
> acknowledge that the TCC deletion came from her account.
> There have been legal obstacles to getting the release of
> information for the second violation.
>
> Just FYI, these logs are not offered as *proof* of anything;
> not are they offered as *promises* of proof. I'm posting
> them because Andrea abused a dying woman by lying to her
> when, even if what she told her *had* been the truth, there
> was no reason to tell her at all.
So, if they're not proof of anything, why post them? Sharon,
you're just trolling and looking to do harm on little Penny's
behalf.
>
> Andrea sucker-punched two people who trusted her and has
> somehow convinced a number of people that she's been a
> victim.
>
> Stay tuned.....
The only person that I know that screams victim at every
opportunity is Penny. Someone sneezes and she's the victim.
Michael
Dog3
<shar...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Don't fret, furball. You're mentioned in the logs, too.
>
> Stay tuned...
I'm flattered. Anything your group of hoodlums posts about me is
flattery.
Michael
Martha
Dear JM,
Here's some *hard evidence* for you. Remember the latest email libel of
Jack Olsen? Take another look at it. Notice the idiosyncratic two-dot
elipses--most people use three dots... I've been watching for a
"two-dotter" here in the ng, and now I've spotted one. Have you?
Martha
LexLaw007
this bizarre post.......
Andrea
kae...@hotmail.com
>sharonpo posted:
>
><<snip>>
>
>Hmnnn. Assuming the log hasn't been manipulated, one has to believe that
>sharonpo has been supplied the IM log from one of the two parties. Obviously,
>Andrea isn't the one.
Yes she was supplied it by me AFTER I found out my personal emails to
Andrea was being forwarded to someone else. That pretty well nulled
and voided any obligation I had in keeping our conversations between
us. Not only did she share my private emails but she did our private
phone conversations as well but changed what was said when she
repeated our conversation.
>
>As well. Can you cite proof, sharonpo, that the list was deleted by Andrea? Has
>the LE or ISP made public the information that it was definitely Andrea? I'd be
>interested in seeing the proof of that.
There is an independent witness who heard Egroups customer service rep
state that the list was deleted by the crik...@aol.com account.
Andrea denied doing it and I believed her then. I am not too sure
now.
>
>As well, proof of the backstabbing a friend or three would be nice, too. After
>all, somebody like me usually waits to see proof before accepting somebody
>guilt, as when you were named as Marnie and the lart.com situation became
>public.
I have an email to show proof that she forwarded one of my emails I
sent her to someone else.
>
>By the way, in the tossing around of the term: "liar" in the alleged IM log,
>has anybody got any proof to back up the claims when they're made?
Yup.. I have lots of proof when I stated David Lohr is a liar. But I
must warn you that unless you want more information about Andrea to
come out because the proof involves her. Then again, that proof
depends on whether or not Andrea told me the truth so maybe I'd better
back off from that since I know for a fact she has lied to me and
about me, about other things.
>
>And, finally, you did notice that in the entire IM, Penny blames another person
>until the end and suggests that she wouldn't even talk to Andrea if she
>believed she had deleted the list, even going so far as to suggest she'd trust
>her (Andrea) with her grandchild?
The conversation that got posted happened the day after TCC was
deleted and while Andrea started her list behind my back. January
22nd. Also when I stated what I did about trusting her, it was the
truth. Now that I know she has shared my private conversations with
others, I do not trust her even if she said it was raining outside. I
would go look first.
>
>I await proof provided that it was definitely Andrea who deleted TCC (something
>Penny hadn't suggested earlier in the postings her the days after TCC got
>deleted), that it's traceable to both a screen name and dial-up number, and
>that the ISP has taken any action against Andrea. Seeing as how Jason got
>maligned here recently when it *appreared* he'd posted something, and I'll give
>him the same benefit as I'd give you or anybody else, I think applying the same
>standard is fair across the board.
From the activity log of TCC:
1/21/2001 10:46pm crik...@aol.com Deleted group
From the activity log of the private moderator list we had at the time
as well.. no one but the owners and moderators knew about this list:
1/22/2001 00:16am roy727...@yahoo.com Subscribed by
crik...@aol.com via web
1/22/2001 1:18am joe_1...@hotmail.com Subscribed by
roy727...@yahoo.com via web
1/22/2001 1:20am roy727...@yahoo.com Unsubscribe via web
1/22/2001 00:06am kae...@redacted.com Privileges changed by
crik...@aol.com
1/22/2001 00:07am crik...@aol.com Privileges changed by
crik...@aol.com
1/22/2001 00:12am crik...@aol.com Edited group feature access
1/22/2001 00:12am crik...@aol.com Edited group policies
1/22/2001 00:13am crik...@aol.com Changed group description
1/22/2001 00:16am roy727...@yahoo.com Made moderator by
crik...@aol.com
1/22/2001 00:16am roy727...@yahoo.com Privileges changed by
crik...@aol.com
1/22/2001 00:16am roy727...@yahoo.com Post status changed by
crik...@aol.com
1/22/2001 1:05am roy727...@yahoo.com Made owner by crik...@aol.com
1/22/2001 1:05am crik...@aol.com Removed from moderators by
crik...@aol.com
1/22/2001 1:18am joe_1...@hotmail.com Made moderator by
roy727...@yahoo.com
1/22/2001 1:18am joe_1...@hotmail.com Privileges changed by
roy727...@yahoo.com
1/22/2001 1:18am joe_1...@hotmail.com Post status changed by
roy727...@yahoo.com
1/22/2001 1:19am joe_1...@hotmail.com Made owner by
roy727...@yahoo.com
1/22/2001 1:19am roy727...@yahoo.com Removed from moderators by
roy727...@yahoo.com
1/22/2001 1:34am joe_1...@hotmail.com Changed group description
1/22/2001 1:35am joe_1...@hotmail.com Edited group policies
1/22/2001 1:36am joe_1...@hotmail.com Edited group welcome message
1/22/2001 1:36am joe_1...@hotmail.com Edited group footer
1/22/2001 1:43am joe_1...@hotmail.com Edited group feature access
1/22/2001 2:13am joe_1...@hotmail.com Edited group feature access
1/22/2001 2:17am joe_1...@hotmail.com Deleted group
Make what you want of that. She either deleted both lists or else she
gave someone the opportunity to have access to her account. Either
way, nothing ever happened of this nature until she hooked up with
David Lohr. She also told Lohr who my source really was, claiming I
gave her permission to do so. She is absolutely nuts if she thinks I
would give her permission to tell Lohr especially that. Goodness ..
after the crap I went through here keeping my source's name out of it,
I would give her permission to do that?! Give me a break.
What I find interesting is her failure to go to the police when this
first happened since it was her account that was used. Secondly she
now claims she did go to the police 3 weeks ago but they haven't
gotten back to her.
Also, as part of the moderator activity, notice how long the person
was first on that list to when they deleted it. Long enough to read
the archives where we discussed list business. Long enough for David
Lohr to take one of those posts made to that list by a moderator last
August, forwarded it to that moderator who made a not so nice comment
about him and then asked her why she would say such a thing about him.
So Lohr was part of what happened there. What his involvement was is
not known because Andrea refuses to get off her ass to find out who
did it. Whether any of you think it isn't important enough just
because a little ole list was deleted, it doesn't matter. What does
matter is someone committed a crime here unless it truly was Andrea
who did it.
Poor little Andrea. Poor little girl who created a lot of crap in the
first 2 months of this year that affected my RL. Not so sweet and
innocent as people think. She even lied to the entire list when she
stated that her and Lohr met in person over the holidays.
Defend her what you want .. At least I have the guts to state in
public what she has done. I haven't started this networking behind
the scenes crap to malign someone like she has. She told one too many
people her lies and it got back to me. Now it is my turn to have my
say but I chose to do it my way .. not like her sneaking around behind
someone's back. At least Barbara was right in saying that I didn't
know who my true friends were.. Andrea made that statement true.
Penny
kae...@hotmail.com
kae...@hotmail.com
Ditto, liar.
shar...@mindspring.com
Wow. Thank god none of this is being conducted under
kae...@lart.com.
Looks like I picked the wrong time to read this group.
--
Taylor NetScum (RIP 10/16/97)
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Taylor NetScum
Wow. Thank god none of this is being conducted under
Michael Newton
> On Thu, 08 Mar 2001 15:10:21 +0000, kae...@hotmail.com wrote:
Reams of pointless crap about her private list ... with nary a howl from the
self-appointed atc watchdogs about "off-topic posts." How curious.
mn
LexLaw007
am not the Andrea being discussed.
Andrea
Jason Pope
AgonyInBlk wrote:
>
> sharonpo posted:
>
> <<snip>>
>
> Hmnnn. Assuming the log hasn't been manipulated, one has to believe that
> sharonpo has been supplied the IM log from one of the two parties. Obviously,
> Andrea isn't the one.
>
> As well. Can you cite proof, sharonpo, that the list was deleted by Andrea? Has
> the LE or ISP made public the information that it was definitely Andrea? I'd be
> interested in seeing the proof of that.
The list was probably cancelled by David Lohr, Andrea's beau, using
moderator information either supplied by Andrea or taken from Andrea's
computer!
>
> As well, proof of the backstabbing a friend or three would be nice, too. After
> all, somebody like me usually waits to see proof before accepting somebody
> guilt, as when you were named as Marnie and the lart.com situation became
> public.
>
> By the way, in the tossing around of the term: "liar" in the alleged IM log,
> has anybody got any proof to back up the claims when they're made?
>
> And, finally, you did notice that in the entire IM, Penny blames another person
> until the end and suggests that she wouldn't even talk to Andrea if she
> believed she had deleted the list, even going so far as to suggest she'd trust
> her (Andrea) with her grandchild?
>
> I await proof provided that it was definitely Andrea who deleted TCC (something
> Penny hadn't suggested earlier in the postings her the days after TCC got
> deleted), that it's traceable to both a screen name and dial-up number, and
> that the ISP has taken any action against Andrea. Seeing as how Jason got
> maligned here recently when it *appreared* he'd posted something, and I'll give
> him the same benefit as I'd give you or anybody else, I think applying the same
> standard is fair across the board.
>
The IM states that Lohr was behind it, but Andrea did little to prevent
it from happening!
ie if she kept her passwords secret it wouldn't have happened!
ciao
Jason
Jason Pope
Get a life Mr "I'm going to post your dial-up telephone number"
Lonergan!
ciao
Jason
Jason Pope
What the hell are you talking about Martha!?
What's a two-dot elipse?
By the way 'informant/IngaS' might like to check their email, I'm
betting his recent bout of smiles might just disappear!!
ciao
Jason
Jason Pope
> Charming and so typical of you Sharon. Penny forwards a private
> IM to you and you post it.
I've got one from a communication with Andrea as well, maybe I'll post
that here!
You are beyond filth. It's time
> everyone stuffed you back in the killfile. Hmmmm.... maybe not.
> You smell like rotting cheese at this moment. The fact that Penny
> betrayed a friend leads me to believe the 2 of you are indeed
> perfect bedfellows. It won't work. Everyone sees the light. I
> think you all need to move to a different ng. Take this to
> alt.flame.each-other and have a ball. You'll enjoy it.
>
A friend wouldn't have facilitated her boyfriends removal of Penny's
list, whether by leaving the password where he could find it, giving it
to him, or otherwise!
> Penny's list sucks, it's down the tubes and there's nothing you're
> doing to help it.
It's not down the tubes at all Michael!
And it'll be much better for you not being there!
Sharon, you love stirring shit. Penny, watch
> your back, you'll eventually get it from Sharon. Everyone else
> has. My guess is, she's trying to take Joe1's place.
LOL, yeah right!
She's
> quickly trying to destroy your list with negative posts. You
> obviously fwd the IM to her and she posted it. Do you really
> think your posters are going to enjoy Sharon's relish in posting
> posting posts from a private IM or a private listserve (done in
> the past) to this public ng?
>
I think she's just showing Andrea's true colours!
Bravo Sharon!
ciao
Jason
Jason Pope
Michael Newton wrote:
mn
There was a crime dickweed!
ie. The use of someone else's passwords to remove something that didn't
belong to them!
sabotage, theft, malicious tampering, take your pick!
So the conversation about the illegal removal of Penny's group is not
"off-topic".
Which is more than can be said for your completely off-topic, continual
fetish with George Dubya Bush, ie constant political posting to a TC
group!
Not to mention your banal arguing with God-fearing people just so you've
got the opportunity to belittle them for their beliefs!
So climb back under your rock Newton, it's quite a little slimey rock,
with a big greasy lizard sitting atop it, which could very readily be
David Lohr!
I knew someone had to have told him when to post the 'Jenni Love'
emails, cos he's too damn stupid to do it himself. And it wasn't mind
boggling to find out you were pulling his strings!
Oh shit, I plonked you a while back and just answered you,...oh no, I've
just committed an "Orbit"-style faux pas, damn!
Re-PLONK!
ciao
Jason
debby
do these things over a newgroup list. Debby S.<sarg...@infi.net>
Jason Pope
Martha
I've just spotted that 'two-dotter' you spoke about!
I'm glad you brought that up!
Michael Newton wrote:
>
> Staffina Security <mike....@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:3AA7BACA...@excite.com...
> > What is "mythical" about the fact you do NOT understand English, Greek,
> > and/or Hebrew?
>
> It's simply irrelevant, Staffy. Not one in a million of your Xian cronies
> read Greek or Hebrew either, yet they foolishly insist that the KJV
> Bible--which, for your information, means the English translation commonly
> published and sold in America --is "inerrant," containing not a single
> blooper, misstatement or contradiction. That's simply idiotic.
>
> As for our relative understandings of English, come back when you learn how
> to use the common apostrophe--if that ever happens.
>
> mn
You're right the 'two-dots' is pretty idiosyncratic!
And he'd have a lot of jealousy for Jack Olsen, with him being
recognised for his work and all that!!
Good call Martha!
BUT
I can't see any of the "two dots" in the libellous message!
ciao
Jason
PattyC
>
> > And, finally, you did notice that in the entire IM, Penny
> blames another person
> > until the end and suggests that she wouldn't even talk to
> Andrea if she
> > believed she had deleted the list, even going so far as to
> suggest she'd trust
> > her (Andrea) with her grandchild?
>
>
It's not an IM and it's not the entirety of the log. As I
said, it's an early edition. The logs span a period of days.
Stay tuned.
Who besides Linda Tripp types tape their conversations? My lord, some are
even more bizarre than I'd thought.
PattyC
AgonyInBlk
>The log hasn't been manipulated. I was supplied the log from
>one of the two parties.>>
So I've heard. Unfortunately, the only word one has as to the accuracy of the
IM log would be you. Even saying that one believed what you posted was the 100%
accurate IM log, it's private correspondence, and should have remained that
way.
>I, personally, don't have the proof. I was told by a third
>party that E-Groups, or whatever the proper designation is,
>said that the list was deleted by the Cricket9 account. LE
>was not involved.
Penny was the one who made the suggestion that LE was involved, sorry if it
came across as if I attributed that to you. As well, as I have said from the
beginning, both in public and private, what's important is that *who* actually
did the deletion is the person blamed. From the beginning, when Dave Lohr was
named as a suspect in it, it was suggested somebody had hacked the password of
a moderator. When an ISP or LE can confirm where the dial-up or log-in info
came from, that'll go a long way towards fingering a true culprit.
>Stay tuned. More chat logs will follow. There may even be a
>few .wav files made available.
And will all involved parties in these private chat logs be made aware of their
posting or have a say? Or should all involved throw their cards on the table
and offer their okay for private chat logs and IMs and e-mails to be made
available? After all, if nobody's afraid of what they said, it should all be
fair game, no?
>Heh, it's a conversation between two people who know
>*exactly* what they're discussing. You'll have to ask them.
Yet, that private conversation has been brought public by you. You made several
claims when you began this thread. Can you back them all up?
>I'm posting
>them because Andrea abused a dying woman by lying to her
>when, even if what she told her *had* been the truth, there
>was no reason to tell her at all.
Is there proof of this, or is this another claim that has nothing to back it up
but an assertation? Some of us know who the person in question is, which is
unimportant. Backing up one's claims is.
>Andrea sucker-punched two people who trusted her and has
>somehow convinced a number of people that she's been a
>victim.
Stay tuned.....>>>
I'll await the proof of anybody's statements as eagerly as always.
AgonyInBlk
Some of you may have noticed that my typing, etc. has been degenerating pretty
badly in recent weeks. I've had seven laser surgeries and just yesterday spent
a few hours under the knife having my retins reattached and my cornea peeled.
I'll be making my own "Discovery CHannel" upload onto my web site as soon as I
can. Yes, I got a tape of the surgery. So, while two and three dot ellipses are
interesting, unless I blow up my screen fonts to about 36 points right now, I
couldn't tell you if it was ,,, ... .. or the letter "W". :)
I'll bite, though--who's the two-dotter in the crodw?
AgonyInBlk
>Yes she was supplied it by me AFTER I found out my personal emails to
>Andrea was being forwarded to someone else.
So, two wrongs make a right? As well, is there any proof to back up the claim
that your personal e-mails were being FWDed to somebody else. I'd be happy to
see some, seeing as taking people at their word really doesn't work on the NG
very often.
>That pretty well nulled
>and voided any obligation I had in keeping our conversations between
>us.
Obligations and confidences are only kept by those who have the integrity to do
so. If one of mine were compromised, I'd far from let that make it "okey-dokey"
to start supplying others with private correspondence for the purpose of making
it public. Let's say I find this conduct on your behalf disgusting. Does that
mean since I find what you did disgusting, it would be okay to post private
e-mails and IMs of yours onto the NG? I should hope you think not.
>Not only did she share my private emails but she did our private
>phone conversations as well but changed what was said when she
>repeated our conversation
As with anything, in the interest of fairness, I'm perfectly willing to believe
you. All you need to do is offer up some proof of it.
>There is an independent witness who heard Egroups customer service rep
>state that the list was deleted by the crik...@aol.com account.
>Andrea denied doing it and I believed her then. I am not too sure
>now.
This is a good start. Now, all somebody needs to do at the ISP is trace the
dial-in source, and the exact times, and see if it can be matched in some way
to Andrea, or the party who may have hacked her password, which, as you know,
wasn't all that difficult. Since you suggested LE would/could be involved, you
should be able to bring this matter to a close when the ISP and LE get the info
necesary for you to file charges. It was wrong for your list to be hacked and
deleted.
>Yup.. I have lots of proof when I stated David Lohr is a liar. But I
>must warn you that unless you want more information about Andrea to
>come out because the proof involves her. Then again, that proof
>depends on whether or not Andrea told me the truth so maybe I'd better
>back off from that since I know for a fact she has lied to me and
>about me, about other things.
If you make a claim about David Lohr, you should be able to back it up. If you
make a claim about Andrea, you need to be able to back it up. If you make a
claim about SOndra London, you had better be able to back it up. There's a
simple pattern in making claims and/or accusations. If you can prove what you
say, and it's verifyable proof, you never have toi worry or backpedal. I see
very little of it happen here, though.
>Now that I know she has shared my private conversations with
>others, I do not trust her even if she said it was raining outside. I
>would go look first.
As I would with you, considering your past history and actions here. But see,
that's not such a bad thing. If you don't think you can trust somebody, you
should be wary and have proof to back up what you say. I don't trust you worth
a whit, especially considering how you allowed your private conversation with
Andrea to be made public by sharing it. You see to think it's okay if you *say*
somebody else did it first. I disagree, so we each have an opinion. But, when
you suggest you no longer trust Andrea because you say she shared private
conversations, and you've done it now yourself, PKB.
>Make what you want of that. She either deleted both lists or else she
>gave someone the opportunity to have access to her account.
Gave, or had it guessed? Think before you answer this one. How tough was it,
Penny? Honest answer, please.
>She also told Lohr who my source really was, claiming I
>gave her permission to do so. She is absolutely nuts if she thinks I
>would give her permission to tell Lohr especially that. Goodness ..
>after the crap I went through here keeping my source's name out of it,
>I would give her permission to do that?! Give me a break.
What time frame was this? Your source was well known several months ago.
>What I find interesting is her failure to go to the police when this
>first happened since it was her account that was used.
Your list was back up the next day. Wrong or not, the question is, was it
*such* an important issue that the police had to be brought into it? Or, was it
correctable by choosing a better password, and moving on? No money was stolen,
so it's not like somebody guessed your ATM code and withdrew your bank account.
Was it a worthwhile offense to call in the police? Perhaps as list owner, you
should have made the effort to do so. Or, one of the other moderators should
have, based in the US. What the penalty is for such an infraction, I don't
know, but is it worthwhile? Sometimes, it's not, like suing somebody overseas
for false accusations. Everybody has to decide for themself.
>Long enough to read
>the archives where we discussed list business. Long enough for David
>Lohr to take one of those posts made to that list by a moderator last
>August, forwarded it to that moderator who made a not so nice comment
>about him and then asked her why she would say such a thing about him.
>So Lohr was part of what happened there.
As you said very early on. Perhaps he was. I'll await proof of the involvement
of any/all parties involved.
>What his involvement was is
>not known because Andrea refuses to get off her ass to find out who
>did it.
You are the list owner. You already know that Andrea's had recent problems with
Dave, as have you. Why is the burden on somebody else to find out who hacked
*your* list?
>Whether any of you think it isn't important enough just
>because a little ole list was deleted, it doesn't matter.
It should be important, I've said from the beginning that even though it was
your list it was wrong and shouldn't have happened. However, it is *your* list.
If you feel you've been slighted (and you have *every* right to) by its
deletion, you have the right to some recourse.
Of course, to do so, you need to take some action.
AgonyInBlk
>The list was probably cancelled by David Lohr, Andrea's beau, using
>moderator information either supplied by Andrea or taken from Andrea's
>computer!
You're not the first who suggested this to me, and I think that that was the
natural conclusion many came to as we followed the goings-on as they occured on
the list. The problem will be, of course, finding a concrete means of proving
it was done this way, which is a shame. It was worng for the list to be
deleted, no matter who the owner was.
>The IM states that Lohr was behind it, but Andrea did little to prevent
>it from happening!
>ie if she kept her passwords secret it wouldn't have happened!
And your reasoning behind this is? One should have a password that those close
to them would *never* be able to guess? Ask Penny how tough it was to guess the
password. As well, if they had been together, a few minutes on the other's
computer and the password could've been obtained with little difficulty.
Two bad things happened here. Penny's list got deleted, and if the believable
scenario of Andrea having her password hacked is true, she's a victim. Blaming
her because her password wasn't some mystical combination of letters and
numbers seems a bit misguided. Yes, she'll pick a better password next time,
but so has my dad, whose password wasn't all that tough to crack when I bought
him a computer this Xmas, either.
LordStickyBottom
on a once beloved friend, you piece of shit. Recording chats? Giving them to
the lowest, most bitter, snarling, drooling trot in the newsgroup to post? You
can't seem to do your own dirty work, can you, you sniveling, mewling,
ass-licking, bitch?
People told you to watch who you trust but you are still trusting the wrong
person AND playing the victim. Do you never tire of it? Silly me, what am I
saying? Of course you don't. You THRIVE on playing the victim. You've made a
market out of it. YOU set yourself up to get all the pity you can garner since
you seem unable to reap any legitimate respect.
What a pretty pair of red, dried out, old crusty douche bags you are, Sharon
and Penny. By the way, where's your hose? I'm sure he'll be piping in with some
sheer lunacy to make you all look more despicable while he satisfies his ADD by
answering every single post in the most juvenile fashion.
Anyone who posts to your stupid, shallow little list now sees that whatever
they post will be held and used against them at a later date. Your little
oligarchy is in its death throes with no one to blame but yourself.
You deserve all the despicable things that are about to come your way. Don't
whine now, you silly bitches, just remember that you asked for it all.
P.S. Marthapo brought up a good point on those double ellipses. They were in
the Jack Olsen email that Jason decried as a forgery and in the chat with
Andrea. Funny how the common factor to Jason and Andrea is Penny, the jealous,
wannabe, TC-author, blazing, tin-plated cunt.
Lady Taker
got me on two words in one post, "trot" and "oligarchy". "Trot" is very
appropriate but "oligarchy" is by far the most perfect word for the toady's
list that anyone has ever used. #2 hits it perfectly:
ol*i*gar*chy (noun), plural -chies
First appeared 1542
1 : government by the few
2 : a government in which a small group exercises control esp. for corrupt and
selfish purposes; also : a group exercising such control
3 : an organization under oligarchic control
BRAVO!!!! ROFLMAO, too!!!
Volfie -> and now for your reading pleasure:
Lordstickybottom wrote with pointed quill:
Martha
>
> Martha suggested:
>
> >Dear JM,
> >
> >Here's some *hard evidence* for you. Remember the latest email libel of
> >Jack Olsen? Take another look at it. Notice the idiosyncratic two-dot
> >elipses--most people use three dots... I've been watching for a
> >"two-dotter" here in the ng, and now I've spotted one. Have you?
>
> Some of you may have noticed that my typing, etc. has been degenerating pretty
> badly in recent weeks. I've had seven laser surgeries and just yesterday spent
> a few hours under the knife having my retins reattached and my cornea peeled.
> I'll be making my own "Discovery CHannel" upload onto my web site as soon as I
> can. Yes, I got a tape of the surgery. So, while two and three dot ellipses are
> interesting, unless I blow up my screen fonts to about 36 points right now, I
> couldn't tell you if it was ,,, ... .. or the letter "W". :)
>
> I'll bite, though--who's the two-dotter in the crodw?
Oh, dear. Seven surgeries? That's a lot! Hope all is well soon.
The two-dotter, assuming Sharonpo is telling the truth and did not alter
the transcript of the third- and fourth-party private conversation she
posted, is Penny.
Martha
Martha
> >Yup.. I have
<snip>
> >that. Goodness .. after the crap I went through
<snip>
So it appears Sharon did not "invent" the double-dot ellipses, and I
note that Penny also puts a space before and after the two dots, as did
the author of the last attempt to libel Jack Olsen. Does anyone else in
the ng use these dots in this pattern?
Martha
Martha
Formica63
Nice work, Mothy. You're right, that is most unusual. Poor Jason doesn't know
what an ellipse is, but what an excellent reader you are! Three is the
"regulation" number, of course.
Formica
Lady Taker
>Nice work, Mothy. You're right, that is most unusual. Poor Jason doesn't
>know
>what an ellipse is, but what an excellent reader you are! Three is the
>"regulation" number, of course.
>
>Formica
Gawd, a "research scientist" that doesn't know the difference between dots and
dashes. Doesn't say too much about the quality of his work, does it? Geezus
keyrist.
Volfie -> LOLing a LOT tonight
shar...@mindspring.com
Wyn <w...@stonehaven.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1510dabff...@nntp.we.mediaone.net...
> In article <986rs3$69b$1...@slb0.atl.mindspring.net>,
shar...@mindspring.com
> wrote...
>
> An e-penny-dreadful(pun not intended)/chapbook! I can't
wait for part two ;)
>
> Wyn
Your patience will pay off. The evolution of things is very
important. Right now it looks to the reader like the
deletion of the list is the heart of the matter; but it's
not. In fact, the deletion of the list was a mere symptom of
what really happened.
Part 2:
Crikket 9: you are? I am the one who was torn apart by a
lover and a friend
Crikket 9: some lover should say ex lover
KaEfErKyRmIT: no . .I had nothign to do with tearing you
apart because I warned yo ua
long time ago not to trust him
KaEfErKyRmIT: but you didn't believe me .. everyone thought
Penny was crazy . .and I am
tired of being frightened because of the goings on Lohr is a
part of . .very tired
Crikket 9: then why why why do you stay on alt tc?
KaEfErKyRmIT: Andrea .. if you notice . my time back at atc
had nothing to do with Orbit ..
I stayed away from taht .. I posted about true crime and I
flamed Volfie ..
KaEfErKyRmIT: I even went so far as to tell them I don't
care who Orbit was .. that he is
gone and that is just fine with me ..
KaEfErKyRmIT: sorry .. lost my connection
Crikket 9 signed off at 11:55:00 PM.
KaEfErKyRmIT: sorry .. lost my connection
KaEfErKyRmIT: I am done begging you, Andrea.. either you
trust me or you do not .. I don't
see any other way of showing my loyalty to you other than
letting up on what Lohr has
done .. and we both know I won't do that ..
KaEfErKyRmIT: so I guess the ball is in your court .. you
need to decide where our
friendship goes from here and what you decide to do about
your part of the list ..
KaEfErKyRmIT: I just pray to God you decide to keep our
friendship and keep on being my
partner .. that would be my finest wish
KaEfErKyRmIT: Now I really do need to go . tis midnight here
and I have only had 3 1/2
hours sleep in the last 48 hours .. I am exhausted ..
please send me an email later with
your decision and please let me know if you are going to go
to the police or not
KaEfErKyRmIT: I love you , Andrea .. and I will truly be
heartbroken if you decide to end
our partnership .. but I won't hate you . .I never could
even if I wanted to . .. *sigh*
KaEfErKyRmIT: bye
KaEfErKyRmIT: You're not even going to say bye to me?
KaEfErKyRmIT: oh well .. what more can I say .. cya around
KaEfErKyRmIT: I can't sleep .. have your made any decisions?
Crikket 9: yes I took myself off of the list, and I am going
to take a few days off and try to feel
better about me and my situation I have been on the computer
for 18 hours in the last two days
and I need a break
KaEfErKyRmIT: yeah.. and I notice you post to David's list
though ..
Crikket 9: one post nowe I am gone
Crikket 9: I quit every group by my own
KaEfErKyRmIT: thanks alot .. you have shown me who you have
chosen .. and you talk about you
being betray
KaEfErKyRmIT: are you going to the police?
Crikket 9: your not being fair to me penny and I think if
you thought about it you would see that
Crikket 9: I just told you I left all of my groups that
includes davids
KaEfErKyRmIT: I am not being fair to you?! No . I have been
more than fair to you .. you are not
being fair to me, Andrea .. and maybe you will see that
Crikket 9: tell me what I am not being fair about?
Crikket 9: I would like to know how you see all of this
KaEfErKyRmIT: you leaving the list .. you blaming it on me
and atc
Crikket 9: I will share my thought to you as well but you
can not just ignore them you have to
consider them
KaEfErKyRmIT: when it fact nothing was happening until YOU
hooked up with David Lohr
Crikket 9: ok part one
KaEfErKyRmIT: I have been posting to ATC for months .. since
October ..
KaEfErKyRmIT: nothing happened .. nothing came of that ..
then you hook up with Lohr ..whom I
warned you about, and now look at what has happened
KaEfErKyRmIT: and you are blaming me for it .
Crikket 9: this is pointless penny you wont even let me
respond
KaEfErKyRmIT: how can you not expect me to be hurt or upset,
andrea
KaEfErKyRmIT: I tried talking to you earlier but you ignored
me, Andrea ..
Crikket 9: but you expect that of me dont you?
KaEfErKyRmIT: absolutely not .. I have shown more concern
for you and yoru feelings than you
have given me .. let's be honest
Crikket 9: you were not listening to me you were only seeing
things from your point of view
KaEfErKyRmIT: I have been worried sick about you ever since
I found out what David did to you ..
but all you have done is let him ruin our friendship .. when
you promised me you wouldn't
KaEfErKyRmIT: You promised, Andrea .. *sigh*
Crikket 9: I was concerned about your feeling because you
were so worried I did not trust you
enough that I told you things in confidence and you told you
did not me and you did it again today
KaEfErKyRmIT: Andrea .. you were not listening to me .. You
are only seeing things with your
heart .. can't you see that? Your heart is broken because
of David so all you are wanting to do is
see the good in him and piss on everyone else .. even your
best friend.
KaEfErKyRmIT: what did I do again today?
Crikket 9: you already know
KaEfErKyRmIT: no I don't ..please enlighten me
Crikket 9: I have not pissed on anyone and screw you for
saying so
Crikket 9: how dare you talk to me like that
KaEfErKyRmIT: you ever stop and think how you have been
talking to me the last couple of days?
KaEfErKyRmIT: how you have been treating me? making me
feel?
Crikket 9: have you ever thought to shut you mouth and not
betray me?
KaEfErKyRmIT: I have NOT betrayed you ..
Crikket 9: how dare you make this all about you this is not
about you its my life mine and you
fucked it up as much as he did
KaEfErKyRmIT: Thanks for telling me that, Andrea .. I see
the truth now ..
Crikket 9: so do I
KaEfErKyRmIT: are you going to go to the police?
Crikket 9: you hurt me so much more that I thought was
possible
Crikket 9: yes
KaEfErKyRmIT: how the fuck have I hurt you?
KaEfErKyRmIT: you just tell me that..
Crikket 9: fucking happy? YES I AM
KaEfErKyRmIT: you have hurt me too, andrea
Crikket 9: you told my secrets
KaEfErKyRmIT: and I told you mine
KaEfErKyRmIT: about a man who you ended up hooking up with
and didn't even have the decency
to tell me about it
Crikket 9: and you have been relentless at trying to get me
to fuck with him and I begged you a
fucking 100000 times to stop
KaEfErKyRmIT: but did I become angry with you? Did I let it
interfere with our friendship?
Crikket 9: yes
KaEfErKyRmIT: I did not
KaEfErKyRmIT: how have I tried to get you to fuck with him?
Crikket 9: the minute you saw we broke up you went after me
for info and because I was so sad
and upset you got it how stiupid I am
KaEfErKyRmIT: I have done everything you have asked of me ..
I left him alone .. I did nothing,
Andrea .. nothing out of respect for you
Crikket 9: then you told people
KaEfErKyRmIT: I did not
Crikket 9: then why why why is this happening?
KaEfErKyRmIT: I told ONE person and I am not about to
explain that to you again
KaEfErKyRmIT: BECAUSE OF DAVID LOHE
KaEfErKyRmIT: LOHR
Crikket 9: THINK
KaEfErKyRmIT: I warned you about him, Andrea .. I warned
you
Crikket 9: well people warned me about you and I stuk up for
you
KaEfErKyRmIT: no you think .. why is this happening AFTER
you hook up with him and not before?
Crikket 9: BECAUSE i AM STUPID i THINK WE HAVE COVER THAT
ALREADY CHRIST LET
ME ALONE ABOUT WHY I HOOKED UP i AM STUPID
KaEfErKyRmIT: Andrea .. I thought you knew me better than
that.. but now I see you never did ..
for you to believe this after what has happen with someone
using your account .. I am shocked
..totally shocked
KaEfErKyRmIT: if it is possible for someone to enter your
computer and steal your information ...
why is it not possible for the smae thing to have happened
to me?
Crikket 9: well i knew you thought I did it LOL I knew it I
knew it today after you could not stop
yourself from talking about it to an innocent person
Crikket 9: what the hell are you talking about?
KaEfErKyRmIT: I am glad Ralf had me download that virus
checker because we did find a virus on
our computer
Crikket 9: i sent you no0 virus jesus christ
KaEfErKyRmIT: I am not saying you did.. jesus christ
KaEfErKyRmIT: but first I want to know what innocent person
you are talking about now
KaEfErKyRmIT: what innocent person did I talk to today?
Martha
Ah, well, thanks, Form. I would not have (and still don't, for sure)
thought Penny capable of such a thing, but the fact that she would stay
in the background (at least briefly) and allow Sharon to do her "dirty
work" in the present instance give pause, I think. I know from someone
who knows about these things that the libel went through someone in the
US using aol.
Someone who knows I don't read Jason's posts forwarded me his confusion
about dashes and dots--poor fellow doesn't realize, I guess, that *I* am
probably the biggest user of -- in the ng; I guess that means I'm Penny.
And here I thought we were all Joe.
Martha
shar...@mindspring.com
LexLaw007 <lexl...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010308095657...@ng-ma1.aol.com...
> What the hell is this? I had better not be the "Andrea"
you are accusing in
> this bizarre post.......
>
> Andrea
No, Andrea; I'm not talking about you.
Lady Taker
>the transcript of the third- and fourth-party private conversation she
>posted, is Penny.
>
>Martha
The two-dotter also left her signature mark all over the allegedly "fake" email
that bashed a famous and beloved author and seems to have come straight from
Jason's account into various private addresses. I don't think we need Sherlock
Holmes for this one.
Volfie -> whatta ka-winky-dink, eh?
(Hope you're feeling better, JM!)
Lady Taker
>note that Penny also puts a space before and after the two dots, as did
>the author of the last attempt to libel Jack Olsen. Does anyone else in
>the ng use these dots in this pattern?
>
>Martha
I'm sure they're trying to forge some up as we
speak.....................................................................
..........................................................................
..........
Volfie -> count the dots in THAT ellipses. Go ahead, I dare ya.
Lady Taker
>about dashes and dots--poor fellow doesn't realize, I guess, that *I* am
>probably the biggest user of -- in the ng; I guess that means I'm Penny.
>And here I thought we were all Joe.
>
>Martha
Not so rare, that double dash. I use them, too. An English prof once told me
that a double typed dash is the proper way to make a punctuation substitution
for a comma if you wish to dress up your typing with something other than a
series of commas, commas, commas.
Volfie -> or even exclaimation points!! exclaimation points!! exclaimation
points!!
debby
easy to hack into. If this is real it sure is proof. Debby
S.<sarg...@infi.net>
shar...@mindspring.com wrote:
> Something that looks like teenage dribble.....
AgonyInBlk
>Oh, dear. Seven surgeries? That's a lot! Hope all is well soon.>>
I watched the tape today. My own personal Discovery Channel. Maybe I'll upload
some video caps onto my web site. ;)
>The two-dotter, assuming Sharonpo is telling the truth and did not alter
>the transcript of the third- and fourth-party private conversation she
>posted, is Penny.
Thanks for the info. For identifying two-dotters, I'd need 48 point type, and
that means scrolling for *days.* :)
Dog3
<kae...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fn8fat43oiu46imco...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:19:42 -0600, "Dog3" <do...@mindspring.com>> >news:9875tj$qms$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net...
> >>
> >>
> >> Don't fret, furball. You're mentioned in the logs, too.
> >>
> >> Stay tuned...
> >
> >I'm flattered. Anything your group of hoodlums posts about me
is
> >flattery.
> >
> >Michael
>
> Ditto, liar.
You're running out of material as quickly as you're running out of
list material. You'll have to do better Penny.
Michael
Dog3
<shar...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:989dk9$our$1...@slb0.atl.mindspring.net...
But she will. She's archived your post.
Michael
Dog3
<shar...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:989d0k$m1v$1...@slb3.atl.mindspring.net...
>
Disgusting. You are lower than the bird shit below my bird
feeder.
Michael
Dog3
"LordStickyBottom" <lordstic...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010308192022...@ng-fq1.aol.com...
> Hey, Penny, that was a filthy, reprehensible and downright dirty
trick to play
> on a once beloved friend, you piece of shit. Recording chats?
Giving them to
> the lowest, most bitter, snarling, drooling trot in the
newsgroup to post? You
> can't seem to do your own dirty work, can you, you sniveling,
mewling,
> ass-licking, bitch?
I love this trot thing. What fun.
>
> People told you to watch who you trust but you are still
trusting the wrong
> person AND playing the victim. Do you never tire of it? Silly
me, what am I
> saying? Of course you don't. You THRIVE on playing the victim.
You've made a
> market out of it. YOU set yourself up to get all the pity you
can garner since
> you seem unable to reap any legitimate respect.
Just wait until the knife is jabbed in the back. Of course, the
victim(TM) aspect will still come out.
>
> What a pretty pair of red, dried out, old crusty douche bags you
are, Sharon
> and Penny. By the way, where's your hose? I'm sure he'll be
piping in with some
> sheer lunacy to make you all look more despicable while he
satisfies his ADD by
> answering every single post in the most juvenile fashion.
>
> Anyone who posts to your stupid, shallow little list now sees
that whatever
> they post will be held and used against them at a later date.
Your little
> oligarchy is in its death throes with no one to blame but
yourself.
>
> You deserve all the despicable things that are about to come
your way. Don't
> whine now, you silly bitches, just remember that you asked for
it all.
>
> P.S. Marthapo brought up a good point on those double ellipses.
They were in
> the Jack Olsen email that Jason decried as a forgery and in the
chat with
> Andrea. Funny how the common factor to Jason and Andrea is
Penny, the jealous,
> wannabe, TC-author, blazing, tin-plated cunt.
ROFLMAO.....
Michael
Dog3
"AgonyInBlk" <agony...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010308183858...@ng-fm1.aol.com...
> sharonpo claims:
>
> >The log hasn't been manipulated. I was supplied the log from
> >one of the two parties.>>
>
> So I've heard. Unfortunately, the only word one has as to the
accuracy of the
> IM log would be you. Even saying that one believed what you
posted was the 100%
> accurate IM log, it's private correspondence, and should have
remained that
> way.
Enough said. The rest was snipped for space.
Michael
Dog3
"Martha" <mothra...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:3AA826...@erols.com...
Gawd, I didn't realize JM was going through all of those
surgeries. Sorry about that dude. Hope it all works out soon.
Martha has the 2 dotter down pat.
Michael
Dog3
> Sounds like I missed some bizarre goings on but I want to make
it clear that I
> am not the Andrea being discussed.
>
> Andrea
Everyone knows that.
Michael
Dog3
"Taylor NetScum" <tay...@lart.com> wrote in message
news:uubfat8iulmu1nmkp...@4ax.com...
>
> Wow. Thank god none of this is being conducted under
> kae...@lart.com.
>
> Looks like I picked the wrong time to read this group.
Where you been? Too much RL invading?
Michael
>
>
> --
> Taylor NetScum (RIP 10/16/97)
> ****************************************************
> I AM SO SMART! I AM SO SMART!
> s-m-r-t...I MEAN s-m-A-r-t! - Homer Simpson, 1994
> ****************************************************
> "To Serve and Reject" http://www.lart.com
Dog3
"Jason Pope" <serial...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:3AA7EE75...@btinternet.com...
>
>
> Michael Newton wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 08 Mar 2001 15:10:21 +0000, kae...@hotmail.com
wrote:
> >
> > Reams of pointless crap about her private list ... with nary a
howl from the
> > self-appointed atc watchdogs about "off-topic posts." How
curious.
> >
> > mn
>
>
> Michael Newton wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 08 Mar 2001 15:10:21 +0000, kae...@hotmail.com
wrote:
>
> Reams of pointless crap about her private list ... with nary a
howl
> from the
> self-appointed atc watchdogs about "off-topic posts." How
curious.
>
> mn
>
>
>
> There was a crime dickweed!
Crime? ROFL...
> ie. The use of someone else's passwords to remove something that
didn't
> belong to them!
It didn't belong to Pointless Penny either.
> sabotage, theft, malicious tampering, take your pick!
Another ROFL..... the list didn't *belong* to anyone.... really.
Is the list on a server that Penny *owned*?
> So the conversation about the illegal removal of Penny's group
is not
> "off-topic".
Actually it is, but I'm having fun with it.
Michael <- taking note of Jason's plonk
Dog3
>
>
> I think she's just showing Andrea's true colours!
> Bravo Sharon!
>
> ciao
>
> Jason
As you already know, you have nothing to lose Jason. Your
credibility is gone here. I'm surprised you have not found
another ng to post to. You don't need to egg Sharon on, she'll
post it anyway. She has as much integrity as you and Penny do.
We all know what that means.
Michael
Pamela
Dog3 wrote in message <989l7e$o9$1...@slb0.atl.mindspring.net>...
Oh... what a slam...
Pamela
(note the real ellipses... which is only three dots)
Babyface
Dog3 <do...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:989nhu$1ti$1...@slb7.atl.mindspring.net...
No they don't, but now they do. I don't know one Andrea from another one.
Babyface<--lost in space -- again.
Babyface
> Not so rare, that double dash. I use them, too. An English prof once told
me
> that a double typed dash is the proper way to make a punctuation
substitution
> for a comma if you wish to dress up your typing with something other than
a
> series of commas, commas, commas.
>
> Volfie -> or even exclaimation points!! exclaimation points!! exclaimation
> points!!
When I was typing for the court reporting stint last year my proofreader
told me to use the -- whenever someone changed their train of thought. Now
I just use them to emphasize or pause between words.
Babyface <--thought *I* was the only one who used them in here.
Hownow
> >
> > Not so rare, that double dash. I use them, too. An English prof once told
> me
> > that a double typed dash is the proper way to make a punctuation
> substitution
> > for a comma if you wish to dress up your typing with something other than
> a
> > series of commas, commas, commas.
> >
> > Volfie -> or even exclaimation points!! exclaimation points!! exclaimation
> > points!!
>
The double dash (two hyphens) is big in Usenet text 'cause you can't --
or at least I can't -- use the long dash. I also do not know how to
make a long dash work in HTML.
In both cases it will appear as a question mark( ?) or something else.
Most print publications use the single long dash (with a space at both
ends). On the computer keyboard it's (option-hyphen).
It's far cleaner looking than --
If anyone knows the proper keyboard combo for producing a long dash
that will appear as such in postings or web HTML, please let me know.
- hm
Michael Newton
Babyface <babyfac...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:tahe23m...@corp.supernews.com...
It's also commonly used in manuscripts to indicate the presence of an "em"
dash, which appears when printed as a solid line double the length of a
regular hyphen.
mn
Lady Taker
>
>Pamela
>(note the real ellipses... which is only three dots)
>
Pamela's clear!!
Volfie -> crossing another dotter off the VERY short list of suspect (<- not a
typo)
Martha
news:20010308192022...@ng-fq1.aol.com...
> P.S. Marthapo brought up a good point on those double ellipses.
While I'm always happy to claim credit for anything and everything, and
I *did* spot those double ellipses in Penny's text, I must mention that
other people pointed out the same punctuational oddity in the libel, and
I would probably have not been looking for it unless Volfie had
mentioned at the time of the libel how odd that was.
Martha
Lady Taker
>dash, which appears when printed as a solid line double the length of a
>regular hyphen.
>
>mn
BUT (here's the $10,000 question) where is the two dot ellipses commonly used?
Volfie -> I think we all know the answer to THAT now
Martha
BTW, I thought the only people who looked bad in the posting of the
private conversation were Sharon, of course, for abusing every known
rule of behavior, and Penny, who seemed to be furious that her friend
wouldn't do what she, Penny, wanted her to do and what, if *anybody*
should do, Penny herself should do. I hate myself for reading this, but
it is a fascinating study in one woman's need to control, control,
control.
Martha
Martha
I don't know how, either, Howard, but I must take issue with your saying
that in print the preference is for two hyphens with space at either
end. Two hyphens do, generally, a dash make, but with *no* space
between the ends of the hyphens/dash and the words they separate.
Martha
Dog3
"Hownow" <theh...@home.com> wrote in message
news:090320010651016305%theh...@home.com...
You're talking MAC vs our ungodly Microsoft bullshit.
Michael
Hownow
wrote:
Going into a couple of magazines I see that yes, indeed, there is no
space between -- must have been a Canadian newspaper and magazine
thing:
The Canadian Press Style Book (1984 is the latest I have) says:
"Write dashes with spaces fore-and-aft but not with agate sports
summaries ... and not with colons, semicolons and commas."
And just to clarify: I did not say two hyphens 'cause that gives you --
(a space in between) but the long (em) dash, which joins the hyphens
into one.
- hm
Hownow
<do...@mindspring.com> wrote:
No ... I think it's the same thing but the Usenet protocol (Ascii
text?) either does not recognize the long dash or has some arcane
method of producing the code for it.
- hm
Lady Taker
>private conversation were Sharon, of course, for abusing every known
>rule of behavior, and Penny, who seemed to be furious that her friend
>wouldn't do what she, Penny, wanted her to do and what, if *anybody*
>should do, Penny herself should do. I hate myself for reading this, but
>it is a fascinating study in one woman's need to control, control,
>control.
>
>Martha
Wait a minute, wait a minute! I thought the whole point of posting that drivel
was that Sharon WAS turning on Penny and trying to make Penny look bad by 1.)
showing everyone that Penny logs and hogs every bit of flotsam to float down
her sewerpipe and 2.) showing what a wanker Penny is to her " dear friends".
You mean this was some sort of DEFENSIVE measure in which Sharon was supposedly
helping Penny??? Holy SH*T!!! Now *that's* funny!!!!!!! ohmygawd!!!!!!!!!!!!
Volfie -> ROFLMAOAPIMP
Lady Taker
>dash
>> that will appear as such in postings or web HTML, please let me
>know.
>>
>> - hm
>
>You're talking MAC vs our ungodly Microsoft bullshit.
>
>Michael
Wah, wah. If you think you have it tough, you should see what it looks like in
braille.
Volfie -> there's always a worse way to go, ya know
Martha
Well, dammit, now you have me second-guessing myself. I don't save
posts and now I can't go back and read it again (like I really want to)
to make sure. What *I* thought was that this was stuff that Penny
wanted us all to see but that she didn't want to post herself because it
would make her look bad (which it does), so she handed it off to Sharon.
*I* thought the whole exercise was to show the world how she, Penny, had
been abused by awful <deleted> who was reluctant to call the cops on her
ex-boyfriend who *might* have been responsible for Penny's list's being
deleted for one whole day. Like, as Howard pointed out, the cops would
care.
*sigh*
I'm going to have to set my preferences to load *all* messages now. And
read it again. Who knows what punctuational quirk will show up this
time?
Martha
Martha
<betraying all kinds of confidences, sharonpo posted>
> KaEfErKyRmIT: Andrea .. if you notice . my time back at atc
> had nothing to do with Orbit ..
> I stayed away from taht .. I posted about true crime and I
> flamed Volfie ..
Does anyone know what Penny's beef with Volfie is? I asked Volfie, and
she couldn't tell me.
TIA,
Martha, trying to sort out the players
Lady Taker
>What *I* thought was that this was stuff that Penny
>wanted us all to see but that she didn't want to post herself because it
>would make her look bad (which it does), so she handed it off to Sharon.
Ah, that would be the Misery Loves Company® approach to appalling netiquette.
>*I* thought the whole exercise was to show the world how she, Penny, had
>been abused by awful <deleted>
Ah, that would be the I'm A Victim Again© technique eternally played to nil
effect by Penny.
> who was reluctant to call the cops on her
>ex-boyfriend who *might* have been responsible for Penny's list's being
>deleted for one whole day.
She was probably afraid of being carted away to the looney bin which is where
anyone should be if they think an email list is all that important in the
greater scheme of life.
>Like, as Howard pointed out, the cops would
>care.
Howard is da man. If I haven't asked Sam to marry me a thousand times, I'd
elope with Howard. (Play me or trade me, Sam.)
>*sigh*
SLAP!!!!!! Double SLAP!!!!! SLAP SLAP STOMP!!!!!
>I'm going to have to set my preferences to load *all* messages now. And
>read it again. Who knows what punctuational quirk will show up this
>time?
It's an awful job but someone has to do it. No doubt it will leave an ugly
scar. You are a true SherlockMarthpo.
Volfie -> pass the garlic salt, please
Lady Taker
>she couldn't tell me.
>
>TIA,
>Martha, trying to sort out the players
>
I've seriously thought this over since you asked and I finally figured it out.
I'm prettier, more popular, I date the quaterback and I wear prettier dresses
to the prom.
Volfie -> and everyone -- just *everyone* -- signed my yearbook
Pamela
Hownow wrote in message <090320010651016305%theh...@home.com>...
It's called an Em dash and can be called from most word processing programs.
Pamela
Lady Taker
>I *did* spot those double ellipses in Penny's text, I must mention that
>other people pointed out the same punctuational oddity in the libel, and
>I would probably have not been looking for it unless Volfie had
>mentioned at the time of the libel how odd that was.
>
>Martha
Yep, I did notice the 2-dot ellipses idiosyncrasy in Jason's email but I did
not match it up with the chat log. It took a mastermind to do that.
Volfie -> bowing to the master (scraping at 1:00)
The Turk
wrote:
"Spellcheck" Newton strikes again...............
Martha
> Volfie -> bowing to the master (scraping at 1:00)
Oh, good. These, uh .. barnacles have been giving me lots of trouble.
Martha
Lady Taker
>"Spellcheck" Newton strikes again...............
It has nothing to do with spellchecking. It has to do with text layout. Pay
attention.
Volfie -> *sheesh*
Lady Taker
>
>Oh, good. These, uh .. barnacles have been giving me lots of trouble.
>
>Martha
Hey, Sam, check out THIS hull!
Volfie -> it's bigger than a dingy
NEON NAPPI
From: form...@aol.com (Formica63)
Moth wrote:
><snip>
>
>Dear JM,
>
>Here's some *hard evidence* for you. Remember the latest email libel of
>Jack Olsen? Take another look at it. Notice the idiosyncratic two-dot
>elipses--most people use three dots... I've been watching for a
>"two-dotter" here in the ng, and now I've spotted one. Have you?
Nice work, Mothy. You're right, that is most unusual. Poor Jason doesn't know
what an ellipse is, but what an excellent reader you are! Three is the
"regulation" number, of course.
Formica
*********
Yes, well, but we've all known for quite awhile that Penny can't spell:)
Barbara
Bombastard Bushkin
[...]
> I hate myself for reading this, but
> it is a fascinating study in one woman's need to control, control,
> control.
Autoflame grade: A
Just kiddin Marthy. =)
How are ya, sweetie? Same old craperoo around here, ah reckon...
HEY JASON! *I'M Orbit!
e-bee
--
"I'll show everyone who the Circus Freak REALLY is!!"
- Jim Rabideau, usenet doormat, protects his reputation in
<3a9bd6cb$0$45998$272e...@news.execpc.com>
"Whatcha gonna do now Saeger? Ya gonna put me in yer
sig box big boy? Huh? Am I going to have to wait till you
get to your cubicle in the morning to find out?"
- Spankard texansagainstwheelin guesses wrong again, in
<15811-3A...@storefull-246.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
Bombastard Bushkin
> <shar...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:989d0k$m1v$1...@slb3.atl.mindspring.net...
> >
>
> Disgusting. You are lower than the bird shit below my bird
> feeder.
This is a revelation, ole buddy?
Jason Pope
Lady Taker wrote:
>
> >Someone who knows I don't read Jason's posts forwarded me his confusion
> >about dashes and dots--poor fellow doesn't realize, I guess, that *I* am
> >probably the biggest user of -- in the ng; I guess that means I'm Penny.
> >And here I thought we were all Joe.
> >
> >Martha
>
> Not so rare, that double dash. I use them, too. An English prof once told me
> that a double typed dash is the proper way to make a punctuation substitution
> for a comma if you wish to dress up your typing with something other than a
> series of commas, commas, commas.
>
> Volfie -> or even exclaimation points!! exclaimation points!! exclaimation
> points!!
Which is why I wondered what the hell Martha was on about!
Newton also uses the two dash system!
ciao
Jason
Jason Pope
Dog3 wrote:
>
> "Jason Pope" <serial...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:3AA7EE75...@btinternet.com...
> >
> >
> > Michael Newton wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, 08 Mar 2001 15:10:21 +0000, kae...@hotmail.com
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Reams of pointless crap about her private list ... with nary a
> howl from the
> > > self-appointed atc watchdogs about "off-topic posts." How
> curious.
> > >
> > > mn
> >
> >
> > Michael Newton wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 08 Mar 2001 15:10:21 +0000, kae...@hotmail.com
> wrote:
> >
> > Reams of pointless crap about her private list ... with nary a
> howl
> > from the
> > self-appointed atc watchdogs about "off-topic posts." How
> curious.
> >
> > mn
> >
> >
> >
> > There was a crime dickweed!
>
> Crime? ROFL...
Yes!
If someone was to use your email system including passwords etc without
your permission what would you consider it?!
>
> > ie. The use of someone else's passwords to remove something that
> didn't
> > belong to them!
>
> It didn't belong to Pointless Penny either.
The list belonged to Penny. The server it was contained on didn't but
so what!
>
> > sabotage, theft, malicious tampering, take your pick!
>
> Another ROFL..... the list didn't *belong* to anyone.... really.
> Is the list on a server that Penny *owned*?
That makes no difference!!
I someone broke something of yours that was sitting on a table belonging
to somebody else you be pretty pissed off about it!
>
> > So the conversation about the illegal removal of Penny's group
> is not
> > "off-topic".
>
> Actually it is, but I'm having fun with it.
>
> Michael <- taking note of Jason's plonk
Like hell you are!
ciao
Jason
Jason Pope
Dog3 wrote:
>
> <kae...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fn8fat43oiu46imco...@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:19:42 -0600, "Dog3" <do...@mindspring.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > ><shar...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > >news:9875tj$qms$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Don't fret, furball. You're mentioned in the logs, too.
> > >>
> > >> Stay tuned...
> > >
> > >I'm flattered. Anything your group of hoodlums posts about me
> is
> > >flattery.
> > >
> > >Michael
> >
> > Ditto, liar.
>
> You're running out of material as quickly as you're running out of
> list material. You'll have to do better Penny.
>
> Michael
Her material was nicked Michael and just transferred to Andrea's list!
And that stinks!
ciao
Jason
Fissiped
wrote...
>
>"Taylor NetScum" <tay...@lart.com> wrote in message
>news:uubfat8iulmu1nmkp...@4ax.com...
>>
>> Wow. Thank god none of this is being conducted under
>> kae...@lart.com.
>>
>> Looks like I picked the wrong time to read this group.
>
>Where you been? Too much RL invading?
>
>Michael
I'm confused again; do we not like Taylor?
Fissiped (where's my scorecard?)
Jason Pope
LordStickyBottom wrote:
>
> Hey, Penny, that was a filthy, reprehensible and downright dirty trick to play
> on a once beloved friend, you piece of shit. Recording chats? Giving them to
> the lowest, most bitter, snarling, drooling trot in the newsgroup to post? You
> can't seem to do your own dirty work, can you, you sniveling, mewling,
> ass-licking, bitch?
>
> People told you to watch who you trust but you are still trusting the wrong
> person AND playing the victim. Do you never tire of it? Silly me, what am I
> saying? Of course you don't. You THRIVE on playing the victim. You've made a
> market out of it. YOU set yourself up to get all the pity you can garner since
> you seem unable to reap any legitimate respect.
>
> What a pretty pair of red, dried out, old crusty douche bags you are, Sharon
> and Penny. By the way, where's your hose? I'm sure he'll be piping in with some
> sheer lunacy to make you all look more despicable while he satisfies his ADD by
> answering every single post in the most juvenile fashion.
>
> Anyone who posts to your stupid, shallow little list now sees that whatever
> they post will be held and used against them at a later date. Your little
> oligarchy is in its death throes with no one to blame but yourself.
>
> You deserve all the despicable things that are about to come your way. Don't
> whine now, you silly bitches, just remember that you asked for it all.
>
> P.S. Marthapo brought up a good point on those double ellipses. They were in
> the Jack Olsen email that Jason decried as a forgery and in the chat with
> Andrea. Funny how the common factor to Jason and Andrea is Penny, the jealous,
> wannabe, TC-author, blazing, tin-plated cunt.
_____________________________________________________________________
Mr David Lohr you, for that's who you are, are the biggest heap of
wannabe true-crime author going!
Penny has absolutely no interest in writing a true-crime book!
Also, two dots mean nothing when the header information leads straight
back to your door you heap of libelling, IQ of 60, low-life slime pit,
shit!
The sooner people see you for exactly who you really are, the better!
One day you'll slip up with one of your "games" and your arse will be
flying straight down to the nearest court of law!
I just hope I'm around on atc to watch your arse and fingers get burnt!
ciao
Jason
GMSpider
We love Taylor, try to keep up.
FAITH, n.
Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of
things without parallel.
The Devil's Dictionary
Fissiped
gmsp...@aol.comnojunk wrote...
>>In article <989ni0$lm7$1...@slb3.atl.mindspring.net>, do...@mindspring.com
>>wrote...
>>>
>>>"Taylor NetScum" <tay...@lart.com> wrote in message
>>>news:uubfat8iulmu1nmkp...@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> Wow. Thank god none of this is being conducted under
>>>> kae...@lart.com.
>>>>
>>>> Looks like I picked the wrong time to read this group.
>>>
>>>Where you been? Too much RL invading?
>>>
>>>Michael
>>
>> I'm confused again; do we not like Taylor?
>>
>>
>> Fissiped (where's my scorecard?)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>We love Taylor, try to keep up.
>
Thank'ee, I'm a-tryin' .. ... -- ---, and just for the hell of it___ ____
~~~||||
Fissiped, peddling as fast as I can
JeremiahKray
>important. Right now it looks to the reader like the
>deletion of the list is the heart of the matter; but it's
>not. In fact, the deletion of the list was a mere symptom of
>what really happened.
>
>Part 2:
>
>Crikket 9: you are? I am the one who was torn apart by a
>lover and a friend
>Crikket 9: some lover should say ex lover
>KaEfErKyRmIT: no . .I had nothign to do with tearing you
>apart because I warned yo ua
>long time ago not to trust him
>KaEfErKyRmIT: but you didn't believe me .. everyone thought
>Penny was crazy . .and I am
>tired of being frightened because of the goings on Lohr is a
>part of . .very tired
>Crikket 9: then why why
This goes on and on and on and in. Who the fuck cares about TweedleDum's list?
Why are personal ims, emails and all being posted to ATC? Here comes
TweedleDumber to post all TweedleDum's stuff, can you say "Linda Trip" , some
good friend. Luckily most people have the 3 stooges + 1 killfiled.
Anybody stupid enough to join that list after seeing all the private stuff
posted in ATC deserves what they get.
Merc
Youre just simply a nasty and insecure bully! Similar to the class
clown who spends all day jumping up and down, disrupting the class,
looking and screaming out for attention. Outside in the playground,
either bash some poor kid and steal their lunch money, or as the other
type of clown - stand alone, an outcast with no friends - pick which
one you are!
Martha joins in that shitty silly behavior or claps, watching your
disgusting behavior! Sad!
Merc
Merc
*sigh*
>
>
Jason Pope
Martha wrote:
>
> Formica63 wrote:
> >
> > Moth wrote:
> >
> > ><snip>
> > >
> > >Dear JM,
> > >
> > >Here's some *hard evidence* for you. Remember the latest email libel of
> > >Jack Olsen? Take another look at it. Notice the idiosyncratic two-dot
> > >elipses--most people use three dots... I've been watching for a
> > >"two-dotter" here in the ng, and now I've spotted one. Have you?
> >
> > Nice work, Mothy. You're right, that is most unusual. Poor Jason doesn't know
> > what an ellipse is, but what an excellent reader you are! Three is the
> > "regulation" number, of course.
>
> Ah, well, thanks, Form. I would not have (and still don't, for sure)
> thought Penny capable of such a thing, but the fact that she would stay
> in the background (at least briefly) and allow Sharon to do her "dirty
> work" in the present instance give pause, I think. I know from someone
> who knows about these things that the libel went through someone in the
> US using aol.
>
> Someone who knows I don't read Jason's posts forwarded me his confusion
> about dashes and dots--poor fellow doesn't realize, I guess, that *I* am
> probably the biggest user of -- in the ng; I guess that means I'm Penny.
> And here I thought we were all Joe.
>
> Martha
Martha goes on about .. appearing in the libellous message from "In
Formant".
Could she please point the .. out to me in that message cos I didn't see
any and I've seen three different copies of that post in different
formats sent to different people!
ciao
Jason
Lady Taker
>Martha goes on about .. appearing in the libellous message from "In
>Formant".
>
>Could she please point the .. out to me in that message cos I didn't see
>any and I've seen three different copies of that post in different
>formats sent to different people!
>
>ciao
>
>Jason
ROFLMAO!
Volfie -> nice try, stooge #3
kae...@hotmail.com
It is all the poor dear has, Merc. Sure shows that Barbara suffers
from some sort of ailment when she can't tell the difference between
spelling mistakes and typing mistakes. I guess when one becomes
senile it is to be expected. I hope I have enough sense to not post
and show that when I get to be her age. Poor dear.
Penny
>
>
>>
>>
Jason Pope
That Damn Boo Kid
>Ah, well, thanks, Form. I would not have (and still don't, for sure) thought
Penny capable of such a thing, but the fact that she would stay in the
background (at least briefly) and allow Sharon to do her "dirty
work" in the present instance give pause, I think. I know from someone who
knows about these things that the libel went through someone in the US using
aol.>
Which I don't understand. Why is an uninvolved (at least, not in the IM)
third party posting these logs in the first place?
And why is it being done piecemeal? Why aren't they all being posted at once?
As for dashes, dots, and the like -- I'd be wary of claiming stylistic
similarities as proof positive of anything. It's a tough one, because it might
or might not be significant. Could be a clue, could be coincidence, could be
someone else noticed the same thing and used it to disguise their own identity.
Knifchick
Con te patiro
su navi per mari
che io lo so
no, no, non esistono piu
con te io li vivro
Hester Mofet
>
>Youre just simply a nasty and insecure bully! Similar to the class
>clown who spends all day jumping up and down, disrupting the class,
>looking and screaming out for attention. Outside in the playground,
>either bash some poor kid and steal their lunch money, or as the other
>type of clown - stand alone, an outcast with no friends - pick which
>one you are!
>Martha joins in that shitty silly behavior or claps, watching your
>disgusting behavior! Sad!
Oh, Merc, this is so true. They are just so jealous of Penny because she wipes
her boogers under her desk and scratches her ass and smells it. Oh! To be so
talented!
Hester Mofet
It's easy to accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior when he looks like
Willem Dafoe. Ann Magnuson/Bongwater
Jason Pope
And if all they've got is spelling, everyone makes spelling mistakes,
even the mighty Newton!
ciao
Jason