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Where do illegals get the idea they can just break the law? Maybe from Americans

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Bo Raxo

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Aug 8, 2008, 6:46:27 PM8/8/08
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WHERE DO THESE ILLEGALS GET THE IDEA IT'S OKAY TO BREAK THE LAW?


I went to a concert last weekend, with a friend I've known since
childhood. I've always been a bleeding-heart liberal type, and as
leftish as I am, he's just as conservative. We argue constantly, but
you know, we don't take it personally. We also never seem to change
each other's minds.

Jumped in the car to pick him up, the route took me down Eddy street,
and a corner where (for at least a decade) there have been dealers
hanging out selling stolen prescription drugs. Now I've never
partaken myself, the only drugs I use are labelled beer and vodka, but
everybody knows about this spot. It's called pill corner. Illegal,
sure, but everybody just accepts it.

Then through the Tenderloin, as the hookers were coming out to start
their night's work. Sure, that's illegal too, but they've been plying
their trade on the same streets since I was a kid (which is, well,
let's just say quite a few decades). Everyone just accepts it.

Picked up my conservative pal, and he tells me he had a busy day (he
works for the SEC). Tons of options backdating cases. The people
they catch, their firms might get hit with a fine, and they'll have to
restate results. But nobody will be going to jail. Sure, they knew
what they were doing was illegal, but practically every firm in
Silicon Valley was doing it, everybody just accepted it.

He popped a CD in to the deck, some live tracks by the group we were
heading over to Oakland to hear. I asked him what album these were
off of, he said they were downloaded off of a peer-to-peer by an old
fraternity buddy of his we both know (another attorney, btw). Sure,
that's illegal, but everybody just accepts it.

Over the Bay Bridge and down 880, he leaned over and checked the
speedo, saw we were doing just under 80 and let out a low whistle.
"Dude, better keep an eye out for John Law". I said not to worry, I
know you can get away with 15 over the limit. Sure, it's illegal, but
everybody - including the highway patrol - just accepts it.

Once we got to the Coliseum parking lot I could see some young guys
selling what's politely called unlicensed merchandise - t-shirts and
such. Sure, it's illegal, but everybody just accepts it. As we were
walking up to the main gates, there were more young dudes selling
scalped tickets, and it looked like they were making a hefty markup.
Yeah, that's illegal too, but everybody just accepts it.

Before the show even started the smell of weed was rolling over the
crowd like ten thousand dead skunks. My pak wrinkled his nose, smoke
just annoys the heck out of him, but to be honest I like the smell,
always have. It seemed like we were about the only people in that
crowd of thousands that wasn't sparking up some ganja. Sure, it's
illegal, but everybody just accepts it.

Two hours later, we braved the crowd of stoners to make our way to the
car, checking out the women half our age in tight jeans and tight t
shirts. Liberal or conservative, at least there was one thing we
could agree upon - the eye candy was outstanding.

Once we were in the car, I figured we'd had enough music for one
night, and I flicked over to a local news station, KCBS. They had a
story on an organization that was trying to put water tanks out in the
desert, to save the lives of people trying to illegally cross the
Mexican border in to the U.S.

My friend smacked the dash with his hand, angry and fired up. "What a
load of sh*t! Somebody should be out there with a gun shooting anybody
who tries to sneak in that way. Why do these idiots think it's
acceptable to just break the law?!"

My window was already down, to air out that weed smell that was in my
clothes from the concert. I hit the eject button on the stereo, and
when the bootleg disc came out, I pulled it out and tossed it out the
window. Yeah, I know, I was littering, but you know, lots of people
do it, and everybody just accepts it.

My pal asked why the heck I'd just tossed his CD. I said, because you
can't think it's acceptable to just, you know, break the law. Got to
draw the line somewhere, or everyone will get the idea that they can
just ignore the law when they want to, and where would that lead?

To his credit, he did laugh at that one. No doubt, he had our mutual
friend just burn another copy. Illegal, but you know, everybody...

charles q

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Aug 8, 2008, 7:51:45 PM8/8/08
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They should round up the idiots that want to put the water tanks out
there and ship them over to Mexico and let them live there seeing how
they like them so much

Kitty

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__________________________________________________________________________________

nope cyanide in the water will cure everything


Kitty


AusWendy

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"Bo Raxo" <crimene...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> WHERE DO THESE ILLEGALS GET THE IDEA IT'S OKAY TO BREAK THE LAW?
>
> He popped a CD in to the deck, some live tracks by the group we were
> heading over to Oakland to hear. I asked him what album these were
> off of, he said they were downloaded off of a peer-to-peer by an old
> fraternity buddy of his we both know (another attorney, btw). Sure,
> that's illegal, but everybody just accepts it.
>
> My window was already down, to air out that weed smell that was in my
> clothes from the concert. I hit the eject button on the stereo, and
> when the bootleg disc came out, I pulled it out and tossed it out the
> window. Yeah, I know, I was littering, but you know, lots of people
> do it, and everybody just accepts it.
>
> My pal asked why the heck I'd just tossed his CD. I said, because you
> can't think it's acceptable to just, you know, break the law. Got to
> draw the line somewhere, or everyone will get the idea that they can
> just ignore the law when they want to, and where would that lead?
>
> To his credit, he did laugh at that one. No doubt, he had our mutual
> friend just burn another copy. Illegal, but you know, everybody...

From experience I have learnt that most people don't even acknowledge the
dozens of little ways they break the law. To your friend pirating is
probably NOTHING.

Aus Wendy


Bo Raxo

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Aug 9, 2008, 4:28:09 PM8/9/08
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On Aug 8, 8:49 pm, "Kitty" <cowgi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> "charles q" <q.charles...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> ___________________________________________________________________________­_______

>
> nope cyanide in the water will cure everything
>

Yes, cyanide in your water would cure everything.

Alison MacIntyre

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On Aug 8, 6:49 pm, "Kitty" <cowgi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> "charles q" <q.charles...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> ___________________________________________________________________________­_______

>
> nope cyanide in the water will cure everything
>
> Kitty


What... an... idiot.

Kitty

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> ___________________________________________________________________________茁______

>
> nope cyanide in the water will cure everything
>

Yes, cyanide in your water would cure everything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Nice that you would wish death upon an American citizen but not an alien
invader criminal, how telling............

Kitty


Bo Raxo

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On Aug 9, 4:55 pm, "Kitty" <cowgi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> "Bo Raxo" <crimenewscen...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > ___________________________________________________________________________­­_______

>
> > nope cyanide in the water will cure everything
>
> Yes, cyanide in your water would cure everything.
>
>
>
> Nice that you would wish death upon an American citizen but not an alien
> invader criminal, how telling............
>

I wish death on someone who would kill people for merely trying to
make a better life for themselves.

Oh, and those people crossing the border are not, as I keep repeating,
criminals. I know this is a complicated idea for your tiny brain, so
try to follow:

Criminals are people who commit a crime. A crime is defined as
breaking a criminal law, of which there are two kinds, felonies and
misdemeanors.

Not *all* laws are criminal laws. In fact, most laws are not criminal
laws. Still with me?

The law that makes it illegal to cross the border outside a border
check point is not a criminal law. Not a felony. Not a misdemeanor.
Which is why people who cross illegally and are caught are not sent to
prison. It's an infraction, on par with a parking ticket.

Not a crime. Therefore, those who break it, not a criminal.

As for being "invaders", I hadn't noticed anyone trying to overthrow
the government. Though some gun owners claim they need their weapons
in case they want to, but I don't think they are illegal immigrants.


Bo Raxo

johnny@.

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Aug 9, 2008, 5:45:53 PM8/9/08
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>>> ___________________________________________________________________________限_______

>>> nope cyanide in the water will cure everything
>> Yes, cyanide in your water would cure everything.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nice that you would wish death upon an American citizen but not an alien
>> invader criminal, how telling............
>>
>
> I wish death on someone who would kill people for merely trying to
> make a better life for themselves.
>
> Oh, and those people crossing the border are not, as I keep repeating,
> criminals. I know this is a complicated idea for your tiny brain, so
> try to follow:
>
> Criminals are people who commit a crime. A crime is defined as
> breaking a criminal law, of which there are two kinds, felonies and
> misdemeanors.
>
> Not *all* laws are criminal laws. In fact, most laws are not criminal
> laws. Still with me?
>
> The law that makes it illegal to cross the border outside a border
> check point is not a criminal law. Not a felony. Not a misdemeanor.
> Which is why people who cross illegally and are caught are not sent to
> prison. It's an infraction, on par with a parking ticket.
>
> Not a crime. Therefore, those who break it, not a criminal.


Identity theft, and using a false social security number is a felony,
that makes all of the illegal aliens criminals.

>
> As for being "invaders", I hadn't noticed anyone trying to overthrow
> the government. Though some gun owners claim they need their weapons
> in case they want to, but I don't think they are illegal immigrants.
>
>
> Bo Raxo


--
"Instead of worrying about whether immigrants can learn English, they'll
learn English; you need to make sure your child can speak Spanish."

Barack Hussein Obama

Bo Raxo

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Aug 9, 2008, 5:55:59 PM8/9/08
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> >>> ___________________________________________________________________________­­­_______

> >>> nope cyanide in the water will cure everything
> >> Yes, cyanide in your water would cure everything.
>
> >> Nice that you would wish death upon an American citizen but not an alien
> >> invader criminal, how telling............
>
> > I wish death on someone who would kill people for merely trying to
> > make a better life for themselves.
>
> > Oh, and those people crossing the border are not, as I keep repeating,
> > criminals.  I know this is a complicated idea for your tiny brain, so
> > try to follow:
>
> > Criminals are people who commit a crime.  A crime is defined as
> > breaking a criminal law, of which there are two kinds, felonies and
> > misdemeanors.
>
> > Not *all* laws are criminal laws.  In fact, most laws are not criminal
> > laws.  Still with me?
>
> > The law that makes it illegal to cross the border outside a border
> > check point is not a criminal law. Not a felony.  Not a misdemeanor.
> > Which is why people who cross illegally and are caught are not sent to
> > prison.  It's an infraction, on par with a parking ticket.
>
> > Not a crime.  Therefore, those who break it, not a criminal.
>
> Identity theft, and using a false social security number is a felony,
> that makes all of the illegal aliens criminals.
>

Because *some* illegals commit these crimes, *all* illegals are
criminals?

Uh, that's like saying because some Republican members of Congress
have been indicted for crimes, all of them are criminals. Well, okay,
now I'm warming up to this theory...

I have met several illegal immigrants who work at local restaurants.
They don't have to steal anyone's identity or use fake social security
numbers - their employers know they are illegal. They pay them under
the table. Gee, rather suggests it's those American citizens that
employ them who are the criminals.

By your theory, that makes all Americans criminals.

Which goes back to my original post, or did you miss that point?


Bo Raxo

johnny@.

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Aug 9, 2008, 6:03:54 PM8/9/08
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>>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________限茁______

They also don't have the right to work in the United States, and that
makes them criminals. When they don't pay income tax they are criminals.

Millhaven

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Aug 9, 2008, 6:10:30 PM8/9/08
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On Aug 8, 3:46 pm, Bo Raxo <crimenewscen...@gmail.com> wrote:

I had so much fun the one time I went to a concert at the Oakland
Coliseum. I engaged in all that criminal activity and more. Back
when concert tickets were cheaper than airline tickets and airline
tickets were still cheap. Basically walked out my front door and onto
the plane, then off the plane and right into the venue parking lot.
Scored a cheap scalped ticket outside, smoked pot, recorded the store,
had a casual encounter with a hot Japanese chick, made lots of cool
friends I still see today then somehow staggered onto the plane and
home the next morning. I wish I could go back!

metspitzer

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On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 14:25:29 -0700 (PDT), Bo Raxo
<crimene...@gmail.com> wrote:


>
>As for being "invaders", I hadn't noticed anyone trying to overthrow
>the government. Though some gun owners claim they need their weapons
>in case they want to, but I don't think they are illegal immigrants.
>
>
>Bo Raxo

It is an invasion.

Look at these faces.

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/fugitives.htm

Pick a state, and have a close look at these faces.

http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/fugitives/fuglist.htm

Pick a state. Any state

Bo Raxo

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Aug 9, 2008, 6:28:09 PM8/9/08
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> >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________­­­­_______

First, many of the people who cross the border illegally aren't
working. They come here to be with family members, You think the
children that cross the border are taking jobs?

Second, show me the CRIMINAL statute that says you can't work under
the table. Remember, not all laws are criminal laws. The other day I
let the parking meter expire. That was illegal. I got a ticket.
Like crossing the border, that was an infraction, not a crime.

Let me guess - you are full of opinions and don't know a single fact.
I dare you to actually cite the law that is being broken when you work
in this country while here illegally. You are avoiding taxes, but
that is NOT a criminal statute.

Your ignorance feeds your prejudice. Thank you for putting both on
display.


Bo Raxo

Bo Raxo

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On Aug 9, 6:18 pm, metspitzer <kilow...@charter.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Aug 2008 14:25:29 -0700 (PDT), Bo Raxo
>
> <crimenewscen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >As for being "invaders", I hadn't noticed anyone trying to overthrow
> >the government.  Though some gun owners claim they need their weapons
> >in case they want to, but I don't think they are illegal immigrants.
>
> >Bo Raxo
>
> It is an invasion.
>
> Look at these faces.
>
> http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/fugitives.htm
>
> Pick a state, and have a close look at these faces.
>
> http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/fugitives/fuglist.htm
>
> Pick a state.  Any state

Among ten million (or more) illegals there are numerous criminals.

And you think that proves something?

Statistically, among any group of ten million people there will be
criminals. Your links prove nothing. If I show that there are
numerous Christians among these criminals, does that prove all
Christians are criminals? Goi ahead, pick any state, I'll find
ministers and preachers and priests who committed crimes.

What ignorant bullshit.


Bo Raxo

johnny@.

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Aug 9, 2008, 6:35:24 PM8/9/08
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>>>>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________限限_______

I think that's how the Feds put Al Capone in prison.

>
> Your ignorance feeds your prejudice. Thank you for putting both on
> display.
>
>
> Bo Raxo
>

Bo Raxo

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> >>>>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________­­­­­_______

I think you're too stupid to know that the dollar amount affects
whether it is a crime, and how serious. The feds decide you've
avoided a thousand bucks in taxes, you're not going to prison.

Once again, I challenge you to cite the actual statute. But you are
in a fact-free zone so you won't.


>
>
> > Your ignorance feeds your prejudice.   Thank you for putting both on
> > display.
>
> > Bo Raxo
>
> --
> "Instead of worrying about whether immigrants can learn English, they'll
> learn English; you need to make sure your child can speak Spanish."
>

> Barack Hussein Obama- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Kitty

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"Bo Raxo" <crimene...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > ___________________________________________________________________________限_______

>
> > nope cyanide in the water will cure everything
>
> Yes, cyanide in your water would cure everything.
>
>
>
> Nice that you would wish death upon an American citizen but not an alien
> invader criminal, how telling............
>

I wish death on someone who would kill people for merely trying to
make a better life for themselves.

Oh, and those people crossing the border are not, as I keep repeating,
criminals. I know this is a complicated idea for your tiny brain, so
try to follow:

Criminals are people who commit a crime. A crime is defined as
breaking a criminal law, of which there are two kinds, felonies and
misdemeanors.

Not *all* laws are criminal laws. In fact, most laws are not criminal
laws. Still with me?

The law that makes it illegal to cross the border outside a border
check point is not a criminal law. Not a felony. Not a misdemeanor.
Which is why people who cross illegally and are caught are not sent to
prison. It's an infraction, on par with a parking ticket.

Not a crime. Therefore, those who break it, not a criminal.

As for being "invaders", I hadn't noticed anyone trying to overthrow
the government. Though some gun owners claim they need their weapons
in case they want to, but I don't think they are illegal immigrants.


Bo Raxo
________________________________________________
I have heard bank robbers are trying to have a better life
too.............maybe we should ignore the robberies, and yes make sure we
place get away vehicle for their convenience too

Kitty


Kitty

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> >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________限限_______


Bo Raxo
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and my taxes feed the leeches as well as their healthcare, that American
citizens cannot have............KILL ALL ILLEGALS


Kitty


metspitzer

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Aug 9, 2008, 7:37:36 PM8/9/08
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Do a little math. 10 million out of 300 million is 1 in 30. My count
shows about 1 in 2.

Bo Raxo

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Do the demographics. Children are underrepresented in the numbers
that cross the border, as are the elderly and the disabled. Factor
in that poor people commit far more crimes of the type that make these
most wanted lists than do rich people.

Add in that people who don't have ties to the community are able to
remain fugitives more easily than someone with family and friends to
question about their whereabouts. Add in that many don't own cars,
and looking for a particular vehicle and plate is a prime way many
fugitives are caught.

How many people are there in the U.S. who are very poor, of working
age, and have no fixed address? And many estimates of the illegal
population range up to 20 million. So yeah, do the math.


Bo Raxo

metspitzer

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So you use 10 million when we are talking about the invasion, and use
20 million when we are talking about the general population.

Spin doctor.

I can do the math.

Bo Raxo

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Nobody knows the exact number. I used ten million as an order-of-
magnitude figure because the argument I was making had nothing to do
with a specific number, only that we are talking about there being
criminals in a population of millions.

The 20 million number I quoted was when I said "many estimates of the
illegal population" and was in a response to your argument which DID
call for something more specific, as you were calling for a ration.

> Spin doctor.
>

PKB

> I can do the math.

Funny, you made a comparison to the entire U.S. population, as if that
were in terms of crime demographically comparable to the illegal
immigrant population. Similar percentages of children, the disabled,
the elderly, just to cite a *few* factors. Makes me think you can't
do the math at all.


Bo Raxo


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johnny@.

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Baldwin wrote:
> Bo Raxo wrote in:

>>
>> WHERE DO THESE ILLEGALS GET THE IDEA IT'S OKAY TO BREAK THE LAW?
>>
> Maybe from some liberal leftists.
>

How about George Bush who wants to put illegal Mexican immigrants on a
path to citizenship?

It's not just liberals, unless you want to call the man a liberal that
is responsible for a 100,000 dead in Iraq.

Chocolic

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Bo Raxo
------------------------

If a business "knowingly" hires an illegal alien, and pays them "under the
table" they are breaking laws, and can get some hefty fines, lose their
license and can face jail time. And that's only for "knowingly" hiring the
illegal worker. They can also be federally charged with harboring illegal
aliens. They can also be charged with paying "anybody" under the table.

The illegal worker can be charged with income tax evasion for "working under
the table" and not reporting that income.


Chocolic


tiny dancer

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He's got ya there, Bo.


td

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>
>


togo

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In article <lnpnk.8225$vX2...@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
"Kitty" <cowg...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>
> Bo Raxo
> ________________________________________________
> I have heard bank robbers are trying to have a better life
> too.............maybe we should ignore the robberies, and yes make sure we
> place get away vehicle for their convenience too
>
> Kitty

Nice stawman. Shows why Bush is President, his constituency is so
STOOPID the equate the equivalent of a traffic ticket to bank robbery
which will get you 20 years in prison

togo

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<f1013f0a-1600-40f5...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
Bo Raxo <crimene...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Among ten million (or more) illegals there are numerous criminals.
>
> And you think that proves something?
>
> Statistically, among any group of ten million people there will be
> criminals. Your links prove nothing. If I show that there are
> numerous Christians among these criminals, does that prove all
> Christians are criminals? Goi ahead, pick any state, I'll find
> ministers and preachers and priests who committed crimes.
>
> What ignorant bullshit.

Ok Bo, I will take the challenge, and I will give you a state with a
church on every block, Texas. And you dont even have to match felon
christian to illegal, show %80 christian to illegal.

Kitty

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Nice that you advocate picking & choosing which laws are worth obeying, what
color is the sun in your world?


Kitty


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Bo Raxo

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> > > ___________________________________________________________________________­­­_______

Okay, show me a bank robber who said he or she did the crime to give
their family a better life. Just one.

Or are you just making it up, making up lies and spewing bullshit?


Bo Raxo

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Bo Raxo

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On Aug 10, 3:04 pm, togo <t...@toget.net> wrote:
> In article
> <f1013f0a-1600-40f5-916f-c1a502f27...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,

>  Bo Raxo <crimenewscen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Among ten million (or more) illegals there are numerous criminals.
>
> > And you think that proves something?
>
> > Statistically, among any group of ten million people there will be
> > criminals.  Your links prove nothing.  If I show that there are
> > numerous Christians among these criminals, does that prove all
> > Christians are criminals?  Goi ahead, pick any state, I'll find
> > ministers and preachers and priests who committed crimes.
>
> > What ignorant bullshit.
>
> Ok Bo, I will take the challenge, and I will give you a state with a
> church on every block, Texas.  And you dont even have to match felon
> christian to illegal, show %80 christian to illegal.

I didn't say the numbers were comparable, I said that showing there
are numerous criminals among a population of millions proves nothing,
because there are always criminals among a population of millions,
duh.

But if you want a comparison:

Check out: justicecenter.csg.org/files/ImmigrationHouseCorrec1108.ppt

The TOTAL number of illegals in Texas state prisons December 2007 was
10, 634

The total number of inmates in Texas state prisons was 155,345

Now never mind that many of those illegals are Catholic (and thus
Christian). Since Texas is, as you point out, an overwhelmingly
Christian state, clearly the number of American Christians committing
crimes vastly outweighs the number of illegals doing so. Illegals are
only 6.8% of the prison population. Most estimates of the illegal
immigrant population in Texas puts them at around six percent of the
total population. IOW, they are represented in the prison population
at about an average rate for their numbers.


More facts, from Immigration Policy Center, Washington, DC, Spring
2007 “The Myth of Immigrant Criminality and the Paradox of
Assimilation” http://www.ailf.org/ipc

"Foreign-born immigrants have lower incarceration rates."

"First generation immigrants have lower crime and delinquency rates
than later generations."

"Since 1994 the undocumented population in the U.S. has doubled and
during this period the violent crime rate in the U.S. declined by 34%
and the property crime rate by 26%. "

Most illegals come here to work hard and make some money, not to go on
a crime spree. The people whining about some illegal crime wave, you
might notice, never have comparative statistics to back anything up.
They'll talk about numerous crimes, ignoring the context that they're
drawing examples from a pool of millions of people.


Bo Raxo

tiny dancer

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"Bo Raxo" <crimene...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Check out: justicecenter.csg.org/files/ImmigrationHouseCorrec1108.ppt

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Tell that to all the victims of DUI's we have. In these parts Hispanic
drivers account for far more than any others.


br...@pobox.com

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Many of us who complain about an illegal crime wave have dealt with it
personally, jackass. Now stuff your head BACK up your ass where you
normally keep it and stop braying.


>
>
>Bo Raxo
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br...@pobox.com

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She's merely responding to your bullshit, left wing trash.

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>Bo Raxo

br...@pobox.com

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>'

It's interesting to watch criminal trash try to justify their actions.

>
>Bo Raxo

Kitty

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"Yeah Righto" <ye...@right.left.centre> wrote in message
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> On , , Sat, 9 Aug 2008 15:28:09 -0700 (PDT), Re: Where do
> illegals get the idea they can just break the law? Maybe from

> Americans, Bo Raxo <crimene...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Your ignorance feeds your prejudice. Thank you for putting both on
>>display.
>
> It beats the hell out of advocating that someone should be
> poisoned with cyanide.
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Well now, they wouldn't have that problem if they did not sneak into my
country, grow up little boy, fantasy land exists at Disney only. Think of
it this way, someone breaks into my home to steal rob rape ,, I shoot them
dead. Too bad, if they didn't break into my home they might still be alive.
boo hoo................

Kitty


Kitty

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"Yeah Righto" <ye...@right.left.centre> wrote in message
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> On , , Sat, 9 Aug 2008 23:43:36 -0400, Re: Where do illegals get

> the idea they can just break the law? Maybe from Americans,
> I'm really waiting to see the backstepping and weasel words that
> come from his mouth.
> He went beserk when I suggested he should be raped in prison, and
> yet he advocates poisoning someone with cyanide.
> His hypocrisy is breathtaking.
>

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and your lack of synapse is shocking

Kitty


Kitty

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"Bo Raxo" <crimene...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > > ___________________________________________________________________________限茁______


Bo Raxo
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well dude, why ELSE would they steal the money????? are you that fucked???
Yeah there's drug involvement and people too lazy to work but they usually
want the money to BUY what they dont have---thusly better their life. I
doubt they steal it because they are numismatics!

Kitty


tiny dancer

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"Bo Raxo" <crimene...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > > ___________________________________________________________________________限茁______


Bo Raxo


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Sounds to me like your beloved S.F. is already 'doing it's part' to rid
itself of it's black population:

African Americans are leaving San Francisco because of substandard schools,
a lack of affordable housing and the dearth of jobs and black culture,
according to a report by a committee looking into the exodus.

The African American Out-migration Task Force, put together by the mayor's
office last year to figure out what can be done to preserve the city's
remaining black population and cultivate new residents, presented its
findings at a public hearing Thursday called by Supervisor Chris Daly.

San Francisco's black population has dropped faster than that of any other
large U.S. city's. It went from 13.4 percent in 1970 to an estimated 6.5
percent in 2005, according to the census. Nationally, African Americans make
up 12.1 percent of the population.

Much of the blame has been placed on the Redevelopment Agency, which
intentionally drove black families and businesses from the Fillmore district
in the 1960s and 1970s.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/08/10/BA5B1272U1.DTL


So I'm guessing you really aren't feeling the effect of the poor hispanics
either.

td


Kel

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Bo has to be one of the biggest asses on usenet. I can only hope and
pray an illegal alien criminal catches up with him one day. That
would be sweet justice.

Highway 66

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Aug 11, 2008, 1:29:34 PM8/11/08
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Okay, show me a bank robber who said he or she did the crime to give
their family a better life. Just one.

Or are you just making it up, making up lies and spewing bullshit?

Ask and ye shall receive:

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AB/20080729/NEWS0107/307290057/


Bo Raxo


Chocolic

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Bo Raxo

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What, you mean you don't think they want a better life?

Chocolic


Nancy Rudins

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Then we're not discussing someone's illegal Irish nanny
in the "illegals" category?

Kind regards,
Nancy

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E = F-flat
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