Wednesday, Dec 29, 2004
Lisa M. Montgomery was strangely obsessed with making people believe she
was pregnant, said Carl Boman, her former husband. Boman, who lives in
Bartlesville, Okla., has been granted temporary custody of the couple's
four children.
Montgomery's ex-husband tells of troubled life
Boman describes history of deception
By KEVIN MURPHY and KAREN DILLON The Kansas City Star
BARTLESVILLE, Okla. — Carl Boman has had 20 years to figure out Lisa
Montgomery, his ex-wife and the mother of his four teenage children.
He said he knew her as untruthful and strangely obsessed with making
people believe she was pregnant.
But when Lisa M. Montgomery was accused Dec. 17 of strangling another
woman to death and stealing her eight-month fetus, Boman saw her in a
chilling new light.
“I never would have thought she was capable of this,” Boman said.
“We can paint any picture we want. She is a chronic liar, very selfish
and her self-esteem is very low. She is very critical of others. She is
not the kind of person you would want to be friends with. But I'm still
shocked.”
Montgomery is charged with kidnapping resulting in the death of Bobbie
Jo Stinnett of Skidmore, Mo. Federal authorities said Montgomery cut the
baby from the womb on Dec. 16 and took her home to Melvern, Kan.
The baby survived and is home with her father.
Court records say Montgomery confessed to the crime.
Montgomery, 36, appeared in federal court Tuesday in Kansas City but did
not enter a plea.
She has declined to be interviewed, and her public defender also
declined to comment Tuesday. Another hearing is scheduled for Thursday.
Six days before the Dec. 16 killing of Stinnett, Boman had filed for
custody of two of the four children he had with Montgomery, court
records show. She had had custody.
On Monday, Boman, in his first extended interview since the crime,
speculated that his ex-wife was desperate to avoid having to admit she
wasn't pregnant.
“She was faced with the fact she would have had to admit in court she
was not pregnant,” Boman said from the cluttered porch of his
two-bedroom Bartlesville home.
“That is what we were going to use against her for her mental state.”
Boman, 43, said Montgomery had “got to the point where she did not want
to be proven wrong because she would have been proven wrong in front of
her husband and his family and the whole community. She did this to
protect her own self.”
In the months before Stinnett's murder, Montgomery had told her current
husband, Kevin Montgomery, her children and people who knew her in
Melvern that she was pregnant.
The minister of the church the Montgomerys attended has said that Lisa
Montgomery was desperate to have a child with her husband.
Boman believes that his ex-wife saw pregnancy as a way of getting
attention, but he said he never knew her to be violent.
Twice in the 1990s, when the Boman family lived in Arkansas and later in
New Mexico, Montgomery pretended to be pregnant, even though she had had
her tubes tied after a difficult pregnancy with her last child in 1990,
Boman said.
Law enforcement investigations showed that Montgomery had known Stinnett
for months through the dog breeding circuit. Stinnett had posted
pictures on her Web site showing that she was pregnant, and the women
met last April at a dog show in Abilene, Kan.
According to an FBI affidavit, Montgomery identified herself as Darlene
Fischer when she arranged to see one of the rat terrier dogs on Dec. 16
that Stinnett had raised.
Boman said he learned of his former wife's arrest in a telephone call
from his sister.
The children, he said, were told by the FBI after a visit to their
school in Melvern.
A judge awarded Boman temporary custody of all four children on Dec. 18,
pending a hearing next month to make the custody permanent.
The oldest child, a high school senior, is living with friends in the
Melvern area, and the youngest is living out of state, but Boman didn't
want to say where or with whom.
The two middle children moved in with their father and his British wife
last week.
They live in a cramped one-story house but will be moving into a bigger
place soon, Boman said. He would not let them comment about their
mother.
“They are holding up as well as can be expected,” Boman said as the two
children competed in a video game in the living room Monday afternoon.
“They are good kids and had no involvement in this. They are not
responsible in any way, and I want people to know that.”
The relationship begins
Boman met his future wife when she was in high school. He was seven
years older and just out of the Navy. When they began dating, Boman's
father and Montgomery's mother also were dating, Boman said. Both had
had previous marriages.
Montgomery, then Lisa Hedberg, graduated from high school in Cleveland,
Okla., in 1986. Three months later, she and Boman married. By that time,
his father and her mother also had married, Boman said.
Lisa and Carl Boman had three girls and one boy in less than four years.
Doctors advised against having more children, and Lisa Boman did not
express any particular remorse over the years about the tubal ligation
decision, Boman said.
The family moved frequently, living in several towns in Oklahoma as well
as in San Diego, New Mexico and Arkansas.
“We went through a lot of different problems in our marriage,” Boman
said, referring to her untruthfulness as just one of the issues.
“When I put my foot down, a lot of the lies would stop,” he said.
Boman said his wife was unfaithful. Court records show he filed for
divorce in 1993 in Oklahoma. He then moved to Arkansas, but she moved
there, too, because taking care of the children alone was too much to
handle, Boman said.
In Arkansas, the couple grew closer again and became active in the
Mormon Church.
“We started going to church and we remarried,” Boman said of their
reconciliation in 1994. “We made a real effort to work it out. At the
time, I think there was still love between us.”
After the remarriage, the family moved to New Mexico, where Boman's
father lived. She worked in the circulation department of The Deming
Headlight, the daily paper in Deming, N.M., and he worked at a
restaurant.
But problems in the marriage resurfaced, and this time, in 1998,
Montgomery filed for the divorce without stating a reason in her
petition, court records show. After the divorce, he moved back to
Oklahoma, and she moved to the Topeka area, Boman said.
Life often was a financial struggle for the Bomans.
He has worked at various jobs, mostly building construction, but is on
disability because of an elbow injury. In recent years, Montgomery has
worked at fast-food outlets and a convenience store, Boman said.
The couple has had periodic disputes over child support. Boman fell
behind on child support payments more than once, according to Kansas
court records.
The last arrangement called for him to make monthly payments of $919, of
which $212 was for back payments.
Lisa Boman married Kevin Montgomery in 2000. The couple lived in a house
near Melvern with her children. His children from a previous marriage
live with their mother.
Kevin Montgomery has not been implicated in his wife's alleged plot to
abduct Stinnett's baby. He has said he thought she was pregnant.
Boman said neither he nor the children have been in contact with Lisa
Montgomery since her arrest. She is being held at the Leavenworth
Detention Center.
Boman hopes the children can resume a normal life. He plans to seek
counseling for the family.
“We're going to get out of this, and we're going to be better for it,”
Boman said. “The Stinnett family is where our hearts are. It's a great
loss on our side. It's a great loss on that side. Those are the ones we
feel for.”
To reach Kevin Murphy,
call (816) 234-4464 or send e-mail to kmu...@kcstar.com.
Anyone else think this Boman fellow sounds like a great guy?
Like below -
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> Lisa M. Montgomery was strangely obsessed with making people believe she
> was pregnant, said Carl Boman, her former husband. Boman, who lives in
> Bartlesville, Okla., has been granted temporary custody of the couple's
> four children.
>
> Montgomery's ex-husband tells of troubled life
>
> Boman describes history of deception
>
> By KEVIN MURPHY and KAREN DILLON The Kansas City Star
>
> BARTLESVILLE, Okla. — Carl Boman has had 20 years to figure out Lisa
> Montgomery, his ex-wife and the mother of his four teenage children.
>
> He said he knew her as untruthful and strangely obsessed with making
> people believe she was pregnant.
>
> But when Lisa M. Montgomery was accused Dec. 17 of strangling another
> woman to death and stealing her eight-month fetus, Boman saw her in a
> chilling new light.
>
> “I never would have thought she was capable of this,” Boman said.
>
> “We can paint any picture we want. She is a chronic liar, very selfish
> and her self-esteem is very low. She is very critical of others. She is
> not the kind of person you would want to be friends with. But I'm still
> shocked.”
That's a very articulate statement as well as realistic. Carl seems
very grounded and intelligent. I wonder why he's worked all these
menial jobs? Carl must have received some sort of training in the Navy,
why couldn't he use that?
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> Montgomery is charged with kidnapping resulting in the death of Bobbie
> Jo Stinnett of Skidmore, Mo. Federal authorities said Montgomery cut the
> baby from the womb on Dec. 16 and took her home to Melvern, Kan.
>
> The baby survived and is home with her father.
>
> Court records say Montgomery confessed to the crime.
>
> Montgomery, 36, appeared in federal court Tuesday in Kansas City but did
> not enter a plea.
>
> She has declined to be interviewed, and her public defender also
> declined to comment Tuesday. Another hearing is scheduled for Thursday.
>
> Six days before the Dec. 16 killing of Stinnett, Boman had filed for
> custody of two of the four children he had with Montgomery, court
> records show. She had had custody.
>
> On Monday, Boman, in his first extended interview since the crime,
> speculated that his ex-wife was desperate to avoid having to admit she
> wasn't pregnant.
>
> “She was faced with the fact she would have had to admit in court she
> was not pregnant,” Boman said from the cluttered porch of his
> two-bedroom Bartlesville home.
>
> “That is what we were going to use against her for her mental state.”
>
> Boman, 43, said Montgomery had “got to the point where she did not want
> to be proven wrong because she would have been proven wrong in front of
> her husband and his family and the whole community. She did this to
> protect her own self
There we go - it was the fake pregnancies that caused the custody issue.
I'm amazed at Carl's candor and wisdom here.
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> In the months before Stinnett's murder, Montgomery had told her current
> husband, Kevin Montgomery, her children and people who knew her in
> Melvern that she was pregnant.
>
> The minister of the church the Montgomerys attended has said that Lisa
> Montgomery was desperate to have a child with her husband.
>
> Boman believes that his ex-wife saw pregnancy as a way of getting
> attention, but he said he never knew her to be violent.
He's second guessing himself, wondering if he is in anyway responsible,
if he could have stopped this thing by not seeking custody.
>
> Twice in the 1990s, when the Boman family lived in Arkansas and later in
> New Mexico, Montgomery pretended to be pregnant, even though she had had
> her tubes tied after a difficult pregnancy with her last child in 1990,
> Boman said.
>
>
> Boman said he learned of his former wife's arrest in a telephone call
> from his sister.
>
> The children, he said, were told by the FBI after a visit to their
> school in Melvern.
>
> A judge awarded Boman temporary custody of all four children on Dec. 18,
> pending a hearing next month to make the custody permanent.
>
> The oldest child, a high school senior, is living with friends in the
> Melvern area, and the youngest is living out of state, but Boman didn't
> want to say where or with whom.
Good for him.
>
> The two middle children moved in with their father and his British wife
> last week.
>
> They live in a cramped one-story house but will be moving into a bigger
> place soon, Boman said. He would not let them comment about their
> mother.
Smart dad!
>
> “They are holding up as well as can be expected,” Boman said as the two
> children competed in a video game in the living room Monday afternoon.
> “They are good kids and had no involvement in this. They are not
> responsible in any way, and I want people to know that.”
These kids are lucky to have this father. He might be poor but my god
he's a good man.
bel
In some respects he sounds like a regular guy .....but then you have to
remember he not only married her once, he married her TWICE!
java ~ .... nice, but not too bright if you ask me ......