Sylvia Browne: Crystal ball fails psychic in Mo. kidnap
FragileWarrior
*not to be confused with "I believe her", please
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She told them boy was dead
Crystal ball fails psychic in Mo. kidnap
BY CHRISTINA BOYLE
DAILY NEWS WRITER
Sylvia Browne
Montel Williams' psychic pal Sylvia Browne told the family of missing
Shawn Hornbeck he was dead shortly after the Missouri boy vanished - and
later allegedly offered to help locate his body for $700 per half hour.
The popular TV clairvoyant appeared on the "Montel Williams Show" in
February 2003, four months after Shawn disappeared, and told Pam and
Craig Akers she believed their son was "no longer with us."
She also advised that his body could be found in a wooded area 20 miles
from their Richwoods, Mo., home, near two large jagged boulders.
Shawn, now 15, was found alive and well last Friday, living just miles
away with a man now charged with snatching the boy when he was 11.
Browne's "vision" of his death caused search teams to redirect their
efforts and drew dozens of calls from the public who believed they lived
near the woods matching Browne's descriptions.
The family also claims the psychic then tried to cash in, which Browne
vigorously denies.
"She called Pam and Craig about one month after the show and pretty much
offered her services to continue their discussion for a fee," said Wayne
Evans, a spokesman for the Shawn Hornbeck Foundation.
"Pam was that desperate that if she had had $700 in her bank account she
would have put it on the table. We are talking about a mother who would
have sold her soul to have her boy back."
"Everybody was angry," he added. "Sylvia Browne's name was never brought
up again until Shawn was found. He's home now, and that's all that
matters."
Browne, a regular guest on the "Montel" show, apologized for her misfire,
exposed first by StopSylviaBrowne.com, a blog dedicated to tracking the
psychic's every blunder.
"I'm terribly sorry that this happened," she told the Daily News. "But I
think my body of work stands by itself. I've broken case after case."
"I think it's just cruel to jump on this one case in which I was wrong,"
she added defensively. "I've said thousands of times I'm not God."
She also denied ever offering her services to Shawn's family for cash.
"There's never been a case that I've ever charged for a missing child,"
Browne said. "I would never do that. Never, never."
A spokeswoman for Williams said the talk show host was taping more shows
and unavailable for comment. Browne was his only guest on yesterday's
show.
Michael Devlin, the 300-pound pizza parlor manager charged with
kidnapping Shawn four years ago and a second boy just last week, is to be
arraigned today in Missouri courtroom.
He is also under investigation for the disappearance of another boy,
Charles Arlin Henderson, 16 years ago.
tiny dancer
"FragileWarrior" <FragileWarrior@f'loonsmustdie.com> wrote in message
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> I guess I'm going to have to take her off my "I like her"* list.
>
> *not to be confused with "I believe her", please
Me too on both counts.
td
Diana Simone
> I guess I'm going to have to take her off my "I like her"* list.
>
> *not to be confused with "I believe her", please
God! That fucking bitch is unbelievable. She owes that family a HUGE
apology - not a bunch of excuses and justifications.
Diana Simone
> I guess I'm going to have to take her off my "I like her"* list.
>
> *not to be confused with "I believe her", please
God! That fucking bitch is unbelievable. She owes that family a HUGE
apology - not a bunch of excuses and justifications.
>
FragileWarrior
news:45AFB754...@coxxxxx.net:
> FragileWarrior wrote:
>> I guess I'm going to have to take her off my "I like her"* list.
>>
>> *not to be confused with "I believe her", please
>
> God! That fucking bitch is unbelievable. She owes that family a HUGE
> apology - not a bunch of excuses and justifications.
They just played a clip on Stern of another Browne faux pas. It went
something like this. (Don't bet this is an exact quote. They were
making so much fun of it, I might have remembered some of their words as
some that actually DID happen. The gist of it was, Sylvia was entirely
off on the cause of death but she didn't back down an inch.) :
<audience member> I feel so horrible. They never found my fiance. I
can't get over it. I don't know what to do.
<Browne> He wasn't found because he's in water. You need to look in
water.
<audience member> ::pause:: Uh, no. He died on 9/11. In the WTC. He
was a fireman.
<Browne> ::not missing a beat:: I'm getting water. Could it be
something to do with the fire hoses?
Rooster Cockburn
"FragileWarrior" <FragileWarrior@f'loonsmustdie.com> wrote in message
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>
> *not to be confused with "I believe her", please
>
research center or some shit as well.?
hamburger helper
"Diana Simone" <gertr...@coxxxxx.net> wrote in message
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> FragileWarrior wrote:
>> I guess I'm going to have to take her off my "I like her"* list.
>>
>> *not to be confused with "I believe her", please
>
> God! That fucking bitch is unbelievable. She owes that family a HUGE
> apology - not a bunch of excuses and justifications.
>
UGH. . . she owes the whole world a huge apology. She is dispicable.
HH
Roofshadow
FragileWarrior <FragileWarrior@f'loonsmustdie.com> wrote:
> I guess I'm going to have to take her off my "I like her"* list.
>
> *not to be confused with "I believe her", please
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> She told them boy was dead
>
> Crystal ball fails psychic in Mo. kidnap
>
> BY CHRISTINA BOYLE
> DAILY NEWS WRITER
>
> Sylvia Browne
> Montel Williams' psychic pal Sylvia Browne told the family of missing
> Shawn Hornbeck he was dead shortly after the Missouri boy vanished - and
> later allegedly offered to help locate his body for $700 per half hour.
>
> The popular TV clairvoyant appeared on the "Montel Williams Show" in
> February 2003, four months after Shawn disappeared, and told Pam and
> Craig Akers she believed their son was "no longer with us."
>
> She also advised that his body could be found in a wooded area 20 miles
> from their Richwoods, Mo., home, near two large jagged boulders.
>
> Shawn, now 15, was found alive and well last Friday, living just miles
> away with a man now charged with snatching the boy when he was 11.
>
> Browne's "vision" of his death caused search teams to redirect their
> efforts and drew dozens of calls from the public who believed they lived
> near the woods matching Browne's descriptions.
That's horrible.
She should be charged with obstruction!
--
Roofshadow
AUK FNG
Naughty Elf
Sick.
Beth In Alaska
"Diana Simone" <gertr...@coxxxxx.net> wrote in message
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> FragileWarrior wrote:
>> I guess I'm going to have to take her off my "I like her"* list.
>>
>> *not to be confused with "I believe her", please
>
> God! That fucking bitch is unbelievable. She owes that family a HUGE
> apology - not a bunch of excuses and justifications.
I'm quite sure this woman BELIEVES she's psychic. I'm thinking that
classifies her as crazy rather than mean.
Beth In Alaska
"Roofshadow" <Roofsha...@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Roofshadow2004-
>> Browne's "vision" of his death caused search teams to redirect their
>> efforts and drew dozens of calls from the public who believed they lived
>> near the woods matching Browne's descriptions.
>
> That's horrible.
>
> She should be charged with obstruction!
Maybe its the stupid search and rescue operation who chose to believe in a
psychic thats the problem here. Not the crazy woman who believes she can
speak to dead people.
grativo
fraud?
Grativo
FragileWarrior
the missing boy/dead story. You have to scroll down to the second to last
paragraph to see it.
"Noted psychic Sylvia Browne, who months ago brashly promised on the Larry
King show that she would indeed take the Million Dollar Challenge, has
since avoided Randi's calls and has yet to be heard from."
http://www.time.com/time/columnist/jaroff/article/0,9565,199773,00.html
Roofshadow
"Naughty Elf" <sant...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Sick doesn't even begin to cover it.
--
Roofshadow
AUK FNG
Roofshadow
FragileWarrior <FragileWarrior@f'loonsmustdie.com> wrote:
Now THERE'S a surprise... except not.
--
Roofshadow
AUK FNG
Zeb Quinn
> I guess I'm going to have to take her off my "I like her"* list.
>
> *not to be confused with "I believe her"
Brown is a fraud. Don't forget the Sago Mine disaster last year.
That's the incident where it was erroneously reported that all 12
miners were found alive, then it turned out that all of them were dead
except one. Brown was on the air on George Noory's program when that
all happened, and was trapped by first saying that she knew all along
that that the miners would be found, then totally flipped-flopped right
there on the spot when word got out that they were found dead, and said
that she knew all along that they were dead and that's what she meant
to say the first time. A total fraud.
FragileWarrior
@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Ya THINK?
Tattoo Vampire
> I guess I'm going to have to take her off my "I like her"* list.
>
> *not to be confused with "I believe her", please
James Randi proved her a fraud long ago. I don't know why people continue to
put stock in anything she says.
I do believe some people have an "ability" - Edgar Cayce, for one. Browne,
however, is a charlatan.
--
Regards,
[tv]
...Evolution is God's way of issuing upgrades.
FragileWarrior
news:1i2v7znkk0yqm$.dlg@desktop1.ziggynet:
> FragileWarrior wrote:
>
>> I guess I'm going to have to take her off my "I like her"* list.
>>
>> *not to be confused with "I believe her", please
>
> James Randi proved her a fraud long ago. I don't know why people
> continue to put stock in anything she says.
>
> I do believe some people have an "ability" - Edgar Cayce, for one.
> Browne, however, is a charlatan.
At this point, she needs to say she has obviously lost all her psychic
powers and announce her retirement. In a year or so, she can pretend they
all came back, come out of retirement and pick up her "career" where she
left off.
Trust me, it will work.
Daedalus
She could even make a fortune on a book about her journey back to
psychicness. People love a comeback story. Look at the Rocky movies.
Jade
FragileWarrior
news:pcmvq2pektf36noa6...@4ax.com:
Ohhhhh!!! Even BETTER! She could write books so that other folks can go
on their on search for psychic powers along with her. Other things to
$hare with folk$: exercise programs to enable psychic powers, meditations
for phychic awareness, retreats, seminars, special foods, crytals, cruise
trips to float over where Atlantis might be to try and absorb some lost
power...
Man, she should hire us to be her press agent and manager. :)
Tattoo Vampire
> She could even make a fortune on a book about her journey back to
> psychicness. People love a comeback story. Look at the Rocky movies.
Did anyone predict "Rocky Balboa" would lay a big stinker? :-)
--
Regards,
[tv]
...He who laughs last thinks slowest.
Zeb Quinn
> > A total fraud.
>
> Ya THINK?
It's just that it isn't often that charlatans are so squarely nailed
with no wiggle room, no matter how much they try. She should be
embarrassed and humiliated. But somehow I think she probably isn't.
Aratzio
transparently proposed:
Look at DAEV, eeeuuuw, nevermind.
--
Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?
Daedalus
<tat2v...@geeemail.com> wrote:
>Daedalus wrote:
>
>> She could even make a fortune on a book about her journey back to
>> psychicness. People love a comeback story. Look at the Rocky movies.
>
>Did anyone predict "Rocky Balboa" would lay a big stinker? :-)
I think most of Stallone's friends had concerns but were afraid to say
anything.
Jade
FragileWarrior
> Daedalus wrote:
>
>> She could even make a fortune on a book about her journey back to
>> psychicness. People love a comeback story. Look at the Rocky movies.
>
> Did anyone predict "Rocky Balboa" would lay a big stinker? :-)
I did.
Daedalus
wrote:
Not that kind of cumback..ack..ack
*slap*
sorry.
Jade
carme...@yahoo.com
> > <audience member> ::pause:: Uh, no. He died on 9/11. In the WTC. He
> > was a fireman.
> >
> >
> > <Browne> ::not missing a beat:: I'm getting water. Could it be
> > something to do with the fire hoses?
>
> Sick.
She strikes me as a fraud. People give her all the information when
they ask questions. When someone didn't as in this case, she tripped
up.
carme...@yahoo.com
> > <audience member> ::pause:: Uh, no. He died on 9/11. In the WTC. He
> > was a fireman.
> >
> >
> > <Browne> ::not missing a beat:: I'm getting water. Could it be
> > something to do with the fire hoses?
>
> Sick.
She strikes me as a fraud. People give her all the information when
carme...@yahoo.com
> > <audience member> ::pause:: Uh, no. He died on 9/11. In the WTC. He
> > was a fireman.
> >
> >
> > <Browne> ::not missing a beat:: I'm getting water. Could it be
> > something to do with the fire hoses?
>
> Sick.
She strikes me as a fraud. People give her all the information when
FragileWarrior
38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
I noticed her "predictions" and her "psychic insights" were getting more
and more specific as she started to believe what she was saying. If you
don't leave wiggle room on the psychic front, you're in big, big trouble.
So now she's in big, big trouble.
SneakyP
#1 Psych[ot]ic rule - Never be specific. The more vague - the better.
Let the [mark] be the interpreter.
--
SneakyP
What's posted in ng stays in ng.
Where's Blanket?
Cliff and Linda Griffith
> kidnapping Shawn four years ago and a second boy just last week, is to be
> arraigned today in Missouri courtroom.
Is it my imagination, or is Devlin getting heavier with each new mention of
him?
Linda
hamburger helper
"Beth In Alaska" <beth...@spamfreeclearwire.net> wrote in message
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I wish I could think that highly of this fraud - you're giving her a lot of
credit, IMHO. I think she is truly evil.
HH
Dennis Erectus
> I guess I'm going to have to take her off my "I like her"* list.
>
> *not to be confused with "I believe her", please
I can't stand that bitch. You really liked her? For God's sake, why?
Dennis Erectus
> FragileWarrior wrote:
>
>> I guess I'm going to have to take her off my "I like her"* list.
>>
>> *not to be confused with "I believe her", please
>
> James Randi proved her a fraud long ago. I don't know why people continue to
> put stock in anything she says.
I used to like Montel Williams but every time I see a commercial for his
show advertising she's going to be on, I nearly puke. Ooh I hate her! I
saw her tell a woman in the audience one time that, paraphrasing, "you
have stomach cancer and it doesn't look good". I mean WTF?
FragileWarrior
$.d...@40tude.net:
I don't know. *shrug* I just did. Sometimes she could be downright LOL
funny (intentionally, I mean as opposed to fucking up a prediction badly).
Dennis Erectus
I actually dislike her more than wacko. I really just can't even stand
the sight of her. Even Pambo comes in a distant runner-up to Browne in my
"Complete Waste of Skin" category.
robbielynn
Diana Simone wrote:
> FragileWarrior wrote:
> > I guess I'm going to have to take her off my "I like her"* list.
> >
> > *not to be confused with "I believe her", please
>
> apology - not a bunch of excuses and justifications.
>
liar who found a great gig that pays the bills.
Never watch her. Hate the sound of her phony
voice. - robbielynn
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> > She told them boy was dead
> >
> > Crystal ball fails psychic in Mo. kidnap
> >
> > BY CHRISTINA BOYLE
> > DAILY NEWS WRITER
> >
> > Sylvia Browne
> > Montel Williams' psychic pal Sylvia Browne told the family of missing
> > Shawn Hornbeck he was dead shortly after the Missouri boy vanished - and
> > later allegedly offered to help locate his body for $700 per half hour.
> >
> > The popular TV clairvoyant appeared on the "Montel Williams Show" in
> > February 2003, four months after Shawn disappeared, and told Pam and
> > Craig Akers she believed their son was "no longer with us."
> >
> > She also advised that his body could be found in a wooded area 20 miles
> > from their Richwoods, Mo., home, near two large jagged boulders.
> >
> > Shawn, now 15, was found alive and well last Friday, living just miles
> > away with a man now charged with snatching the boy when he was 11.
> >
> > Browne's "vision" of his death caused search teams to redirect their
> > efforts and drew dozens of calls from the public who believed they lived
> > near the woods matching Browne's descriptions.
> >
> > vigorously denies.
> >
> > "She called Pam and Craig about one month after the show and pretty much
> > offered her services to continue their discussion for a fee," said Wayne
> > Evans, a spokesman for the Shawn Hornbeck Foundation.
> >
> > "Pam was that desperate that if she had had $700 in her bank account she
> > would have put it on the table. We are talking about a mother who would
> > have sold her soul to have her boy back."
> >
> > "Everybody was angry," he added. "Sylvia Browne's name was never brought
> > up again until Shawn was found. He's home now, and that's all that
> > matters."
> >
> > Browne, a regular guest on the "Montel" show, apologized for her misfire,
> > exposed first by StopSylviaBrowne.com, a blog dedicated to tracking the
> > psychic's every blunder.
> >
> > "I'm terribly sorry that this happened," she told the Daily News. "But I
> > think my body of work stands by itself. I've broken case after case."
> >
> > "I think it's just cruel to jump on this one case in which I was wrong,"
> > she added defensively. "I've said thousands of times I'm not God."
> >
> > She also denied ever offering her services to Shawn's family for cash.
> >
> > "There's never been a case that I've ever charged for a missing child,"
> > Browne said. "I would never do that. Never, never."
> >
> > A spokeswoman for Williams said the talk show host was taping more shows
> > and unavailable for comment. Browne was his only guest on yesterday's
> > show.
> >
> > Michael Devlin, the 300-pound pizza parlor manager charged with
> > kidnapping Shawn four years ago and a second boy just last week, is to be
> > arraigned today in Missouri courtroom.
> >
> > Charles Arlin Henderson, 16 years ago.
mc
Beth In Alaska wrote:
> "Roofshadow" <Roofsha...@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Roofshadow2004-
>
> >> efforts and drew dozens of calls from the public who believed they lived
> >> near the woods matching Browne's descriptions.
> >
> >
> > She should be charged with obstruction!
>
>
> Maybe its the stupid search and rescue operation who chose to believe in a
> psychic thats the problem here. Not the crazy woman who believes she can
> speak to dead people.
Bingo.
mc
mc
You really think this will detract her "fans" desperate to hear from
beyond the grave if they haven't been already?
mc
mc
I always got a kick out of her too. Not to be confused with "I believe
her" either.
mc
2nz Communes
Tattoo Vampire wrote:
> FragileWarrior wrote:
>
> > I guess I'm going to have to take her off my "I like her"* list.
> >
> > *not to be confused with "I believe her", please
>
> James Randi proved her a fraud long ago. I don't know why people continue to
> put stock in anything she says.
>
> I do believe some people have an "ability" - Edgar Cayce, for one. Browne,
> however, is a charlatan.
I'm convinced we ALL have abilities far beyond our comprehension.
It's rare for a humanoid to recognize and utilize these powers.
Most of us can't even get a grip on our bad habits.
It takes vision that burns through vanity and greed and lust.
I see a woman in Texas that resembles a syphilitic walrus. Her joy for
life has been taken from her by anger and a charlatan pop singer. I
predict she is on a downhill slide into a Hell of her own design.
FragileWarrior
news:1169160882....@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com:
Did I say that?
-L.
She gives psychics a bad name. You can tell she makes shit up because
she licks her lips all the time - a sign of lying. I have always
thought she's full of shit.
I like John Edward though. That guy is incredible. I have read all of
his books.
-L.
Uncle Clover
wrote:
>
> "FragileWarrior" <FragileWarrior@f'loonsmustdie.com> wrote in message
> news:eoobjk$1r9$4...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
> > I guess I'm going to have to take her off my "I like her"* list.
> >
> > *not to be confused with "I believe her", please
>
> Me too on both counts.
The woman is a fraud, a ghoul, a fiendish con artist who preys upon the weak and
vulnerable in their most desperate of hours. She's a charlatan and a sinister
old bitch.
So I'll be keeping her on -my- "I like her list", thank you very much. ;-)
--
L8r,
Uncle Clover
___________________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beauty is where you see it.
___________________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Karen
mc wrote:
> You really think this will detract her "fans" desperate to hear from
> beyond the grave if they haven't been already?
yeah, I do. I was a Sylvia Browne fan.
But, I am skeptic on almost everything in my life. I believe in science
and facts and will always argue vaguity. But, I liked Sylvia Browne for
some dumb reason. She was almost an exception and I was surprised with
myself that I gave her exception. I almost thought I wanted to buy one
of her books or see her on stage. I almost thought that psychics
weren't fake, because of her.
I'm glad this case proved her true light. I no longer like her. I will
hate to hear her give out her psychic information to the audience on
Montel, if I see her. She speaks as if she knows facts and people
believe her and either cry for sadness or happiness. I hate her for
doing that now.
Karen
mc
Well I thought it was implied by "she's in big, big trouble".
mc
??
"Dennis Erectus" <R...@racing.inv> wrote in message
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I think it's the bright colored moomoos (sp?) and those nails. I hate the
clicking.
Not that I watched the whole show.
Lis
FragileWarrior
news:51bak7F...@mid.individual.net:
Check out the logo on this site: www.stopsylviabrowne.com You'll plotz.
FragileWarrior
@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
No.
BTW, here's a fun site: www.stopsylviabrowne.com
USA1st
Beth In Alaska wrote:
> "Diana Simone" <gertr...@coxxxxx.net> wrote in message
> news:45AFB754...@coxxxxx.net...
> > FragileWarrior wrote:
> >> I guess I'm going to have to take her off my "I like her"* list.
> >>
> >> *not to be confused with "I believe her", please
> >
> > apology - not a bunch of excuses and justifications.
I think it is all about the money. She has made her millions. Why
will she not just go away! I think she pulls her crap out of the air.
I don't think she is very accurate at all. When she does a reading for
people on the MW show, so many of the times the people either get such
general information that any one of us could have done the same
thing...or the people look totally bewildered. They never have a
chance to counter her claims on the air.
>
>
> I'm quite sure this woman BELIEVES she's psychic. I'm thinking that
> classifies her as crazy rather than mean.
FragileWarrior
Google, will ya?? No matter how long it seems to take to see some
action, JUST HIT THE FREAKIN' BUTTON ************ONCE*************.
This is getting ridiculous.
"USA1st" <USA...@carolina.rr.com> wrote in news:1169212901.243970.304120
@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:
>
> Beth In Alaska wrote:
>> "Diana Simone" <gertr...@coxxxxx.net> wrote in message
>> news:45AFB754...@coxxxxx.net...
>> > FragileWarrior wrote:
>> >> I guess I'm going to have to take her off my "I like her"* list.
>> >>
>> >> *not to be confused with "I believe her", please
>> >
>> > God! That fucking bitch is unbelievable. She owes that family a
HUGE
>> > apology - not a bunch of excuses and justifications.
>
>
>>
>>
USA1st
FragileWarrior wrote:
> For GOD'S SAKE, only hit "send" once when sending a message through
> Google, will ya?? No matter how long it seems to take to see some
> action, JUST HIT THE FREAKIN' BUTTON ************ONCE*************.
>
> This is getting ridiculous.
>
thereafter. Get over yourself. You act like I do it all the time.
Why jump at me? Bitch!
FragileWarrior
11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com:
Obviously you can't "remove" them or I wouldn't have seen them, would I?
Unless you want to hit killfiles right and left, stop acting like a two-
year old having a tantrum, take resposibility for your st00pidy and swear
n'er to do it again.
HAND
Thx
BIE
FragileWarrior
11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com:
Posted TWICE.
Wanna go for three times?
USA1st
>
> Obviously you can't "remove" them or I wouldn't have seen them, would I?
> Unless you want to hit killfiles right and left, stop acting like a two-
> year old having a tantrum, take resposibility for your st00pidy and swear
> n'er to do it again.
>
> HAND
> Thx
> BIE
I removed what I could as quickly as I could. I can't help it you sit
on top of your computer. Hey, you are the one jumping on my ass,
thinking you are the posting police. I take responsibility and I don't
plan on doing it again..but I didn't plan on doing it that time. It
was not stupidity...or as you said st00pidy (missing a syllable there,
sweetcheeks and who spells with numbers anyway?) It was just an
accident. Sort of like the accident your mom had and then found out
she was pregnant with you. Nuff said.
FINGER (Middle one)
Thx
Buh-Bye
Naughty Elf
"Beth In Alaska" <beth...@spamfreeclearwire.net> wrote in message
news:12qvinb...@corp.supernews.com...
I agree with you to a certain point. But I think Browne knows what she is
and was looking for more fame and money when she did this. She's a schuyster
like the rest of them.
Naughty Elf
>
> "Diana Simone" <gertr...@coxxxxx.net> wrote in message
> news:45AFB754...@coxxxxx.net...
>> FragileWarrior wrote:
>>> I guess I'm going to have to take her off my "I like her"* list.
>>>
>>> *not to be confused with "I believe her", please
>>
>> God! That fucking bitch is unbelievable. She owes that family a HUGE
>> apology - not a bunch of excuses and justifications.
>
>
> I'm quite sure this woman BELIEVES she's psychic. I'm thinking that
> classifies her as crazy rather than mean.
On some level she knows she's a fraud. That's why she avods the million
dollar challenge she promised to take on.
She's obviously very afraid to be confronted with the truth.
FragileWarrior
news:1169214551.9...@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Ah, a "you're mamma" lame. Cute. You're 8, right, and using "Baby's
First 'Puter"? Aw. Why didn't you just say so? You'd still be annoying
as fuck all but at least there would have been some understanding for
the enormous learning curve you seem to be having trouble mastering.
FragileWarrior
news:eoqibi$rc5$2...@registered.motzarella.org:
Has Randi asked any of the f'TV preachers to take his tests to prove the
existance of God? I wish he's expend some energy in THAT direction.
IMO, they're all hawking the same snake oil in different packaging.
USA1st
>
> Ah, a "you're mamma" lame. Cute. You're 8, right, and using "Baby's
> First 'Puter"? Aw. Why didn't you just say so? You'd still be annoying
> as fuck all but at least there would have been some understanding for
> the enormous learning curve you seem to be having trouble mastering.
At least this eight year old can spell better than your shriveled up
old granny ass. Done with you. Type away...not responding.
They say, never fight with a pig. The pig likes it and you both get
dirty. My apology to pigs everywhere.
FragileWarrior
news:1169215385.2...@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
<HEE HEE HEE>
I win.
FragileWarrior
news:ock1r2pf3fqpgjuu8...@4ax.com:
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:05:54 +0000 (UTC), in alt.gossip.celebrities,
> FragileWarrior <FragileWarrior@f'loonsmustdie.com> arranged some
> electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ... "USA1st" <USA...@carolina.rr.com> wrote in
> ... news:1169215385.2...@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> ... >> Ah, a "you're mamma" lame. Cute. You're 8, right, and using
> "Baby's ... >> First 'Puter"? Aw. Why didn't you just say so?
> You'd still be ... >> annoying as fuck all but at least there would
> have been some ... >> understanding for the enormous learning curve
> you seem to be having ... >> trouble mastering.
> ... >
> ... > At least this eight year old can spell better than your
> shriveled up ... > old granny ass. Done with you. Type away...not
> responding. ... >
> ... > They say, never fight with a pig. The pig likes it and you
> both get ... > dirty. My apology to pigs everywhere.
> ... >
> ...
> ... <HEE HEE HEE>
> ...
> ... I win.
>
> He really should leave his relatives out of this argument...
>
>
Shhh! He's crying great oily tears of dispair into his keyboard right
this minute. Let's listen.
And laugh.
FragileWarrior
4ax.com:
> On 19 Jan 2007 05:21:41 -0800, "USA1st" <USA...@carolina.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I think it is all about the money. She has made her millions. Why
>>will she not just go away! I think she pulls her crap out of the air.
>>I don't think she is very accurate at all. When she does a reading for
>>people on the MW show, so many of the times the people either get such
>>general information that any one of us could have done the same
>>thing...or the people look totally bewildered. They never have a
>>chance to counter her claims on the air.
>
> If she was not a fraud, she could have made another million
> http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/browne.html
>
You know what? I'm pretty sure she makes more money being a fraud than
she'd make after taking that test. I guess she's a pretty smart business
woman, too, eh?
mc
I dunno that constant picking of the teeth while repeating "that's what
I said!" has a certain charm...
mc
FragileWarrior
news:1169217276.9...@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
I thought the smoker's voice had a certain nails-on-glass charm...
Daedalus
One of the great catch 22s that clergy always have to fall back on.
"You must have faith"
Jade
mc
'k, then what is the big trouble for her? I only ask because she's
always seemed like Teflon before.
mc
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:5os1r2hv4ji501fja...@4ax.com:
"Who are we to divine the actions of God? He works in mysterious ways."
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls
in dfw.*, alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych.
COOSN-266-06-01895 - Supreme Holy Overlord of alt.fucknozzles
Winner of the 8/2000 & 2/2003 HL&S award & July 2005 Hammer of Thor.
Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle - Dec. 2005
"Irrelevant. The unaware fear me. The aware welcome me." - Edmo, brave
explorer of PF Chang's explains why he's always on topic in kook groups.
No 33 Secretary
news:eor5vr$k2o$1...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
Randi debunked Peter Popov on the Tonight Show, many years ago (by
eavesdropping on the radio chatter betweeen Popov and his racist
wife). He's got little more patience for religious scam artists
than any other kind.
--
"What is the first law?"
"To Protect."
"And the second?"
"Ourselves."
Terry Austin
AKA
"john" <no....@in.a.can.net> wrote in message
news:cha2r2ha6mi539al8...@4ax.com...
> No 33 Secretary <terry.nota...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Randi debunked Peter Popov on the Tonight Show, many years ago (by
>>eavesdropping on the radio chatter betweeen Popov and his racist
>>wife). He's got little more patience for religious scam artists
>>than any other kind.
>
If you are so sure I nominate you for the job as you have nothing else to
do.
No 33 Secretary
news:cha2r2ha6mi539al8...@4ax.com:
> No 33 Secretary <terry.nota...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Randi debunked Peter Popov on the Tonight Show, many years ago
>>(by eavesdropping on the radio chatter betweeen Popov and his
>>racist wife). He's got little more patience for religious scam
>>artists than any other kind.
>
> Someone needs to debunk Randi. There's no bigger charlatan than
> he.
>
Feel free to try. The world doesn't have enough retards yet.
Uncle Clover
wrote:
>
> "Beth In Alaska" <beth...@spamfreeclearwire.net> wrote in message
> news:12qvikj...@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Diana Simone" <gertr...@coxxxxx.net> wrote in message
> > news:45AFB754...@coxxxxx.net...
> >> FragileWarrior wrote:
> >>> I guess I'm going to have to take her off my "I like her"* list.
> >>>
> >>> *not to be confused with "I believe her", please
> >>
> >> God! That fucking bitch is unbelievable. She owes that family a HUGE
> >> apology - not a bunch of excuses and justifications.
> >
> >
> > I'm quite sure this woman BELIEVES she's psychic. I'm thinking that
> > classifies her as crazy rather than mean.
>
> On some level she knows she's a fraud.
Yeah, she knows it all the way from her surface to her core. Everything about
her screams con-artist, and all con-artists know what they are - not even just
"deep down", but on ALL levels.
> She's obviously very afraid to be confronted with the truth.
No, she's obviously very reluctant to have her -fans- realize the truth. She's
got a cash cow in the U.S. new age market and she's milking it for every penny
she can get. I can't believe anyone can look at her and think she doesn't
-know- that she's a fake. She's got a flowery tongue, she can make people feel
warm and fuzzy and she can portray herself as a genuine, kind and caring person.
She isn't. She's a bitch, and I have -so- much more reason than just my gut
instinct for saying this. At one point, I almost carried off a con just like
what she's doing, I know exactly how it works, and she's doing that exact same
thing, and you -can't- do that kind of con job without knowing exactly what
you're doing.
I guess like an anti-smoker who's kicked the habit, I just _loathe_ people like
her who can't just grow up and rely on her own strength to make an honest
living. Going about it the way she is - that's a very lazy way to make one's
way through life. It's so very easy to do if you're the kind who is not
bothered by taking advantage of other people. Easy. EASY. People are sheep
who want to be led, it is EASY to tell them what they want to hear and EASY to
get them to give you all kinds of support and money. You just have to not give
a shit that you're a worthless piece of crap who deserves nothing less than
death and that those you're taking advantage of are a cajillion times more
deserving of the good life than you ever could be. You have to be "okay" with
being a liar and a hypocrite, and that kind of person just sits SO very wrong
with me.
Sylvia Browne is a heartless bitch, and I'll be quite thoroughly delighted if I
live long enough to read her obituary.
--
L8r,
Uncle Clover
___________________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beauty is where you see it.
___________________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FragileWarrior
news:1169230520.0...@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com:
Because at some point Montel is going to have to decide to stick by her
or dump her (and he's her biggest shill) and I'm betting that he'll
decide to dump her rather than sit in the shit splatter zone much longer.
Without constant national exposure, her income is going to take a big
landslide.
Artemis,the Polyglot Sexpot
"FragileWarrior" <FragileWarrior@f'loonsmustdie.com> wrote in message
news:eoobjk$1r9$4...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
>I guess I'm going to have to take her off my "I like her"* list.
>
> *not to be confused with "I believe her", please
>
>
>
> She told them boy was dead
>
> Crystal ball fails psychic in Mo. kidnap
>
> BY CHRISTINA BOYLE
> DAILY NEWS WRITER
>
> Sylvia Browne
> Montel Williams' psychic pal Sylvia Browne told the family of missing
> Shawn Hornbeck he was dead shortly after the Missouri boy vanished - and
> later allegedly offered to help locate his body for $700 per half hour.
>
> The popular TV clairvoyant appeared on the "Montel Williams Show" in
> February 2003, four months after Shawn disappeared, and told Pam and
> Craig Akers she believed their son was "no longer with us."
>
> She also advised that his body could be found in a wooded area 20 miles
> from their Richwoods, Mo., home, near two large jagged boulders.
>
> Shawn, now 15, was found alive and well last Friday, living just miles
> away with a man now charged with snatching the boy when he was 11.
>
> Browne's "vision" of his death caused search teams to redirect their
> efforts and drew dozens of calls from the public who believed they lived
> near the woods matching Browne's descriptions.
>
> vigorously denies.
>
> "She called Pam and Craig about one month after the show and pretty much
> offered her services to continue their discussion for a fee," said Wayne
> Evans, a spokesman for the Shawn Hornbeck Foundation.
>
> "Pam was that desperate that if she had had $700 in her bank account she
> would have put it on the table. We are talking about a mother who would
> have sold her soul to have her boy back."
>
> "Everybody was angry," he added. "Sylvia Browne's name was never brought
> up again until Shawn was found. He's home now, and that's all that
> matters."
>
> Browne, a regular guest on the "Montel" show, apologized for her misfire,
> exposed first by StopSylviaBrowne.com, a blog dedicated to tracking the
> psychic's every blunder.
>
> "I'm terribly sorry that this happened," she told the Daily News. "But I
> think my body of work stands by itself. I've broken case after case."
>
> "I think it's just cruel to jump on this one case in which I was wrong,"
> she added defensively. "I've said thousands of times I'm not God."
>
> She also denied ever offering her services to Shawn's family for cash.
>
> "There's never been a case that I've ever charged for a missing child,"
> Browne said. "I would never do that. Never, never."
>
> A spokeswoman for Williams said the talk show host was taping more shows
> and unavailable for comment. Browne was his only guest on yesterday's
> show.
>
> Michael Devlin, the 300-pound pizza parlor manager charged with
> kidnapping Shawn four years ago and a second boy just last week, is to be
> arraigned today in Missouri courtroom.
>
> He is also under investigation for the disappearance of another boy,
> Charles Arlin Henderson, 16 years ago.
This isn't the first time Brown has fucked up.Get a load of her interpreting
a 9/11 victim as a drowning fatality.The anger on the face of the enquirer
is worth a 1000 words.Notice how Montel quickly sweeps her aside.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBNp1Y7fiwA
I like to think there ARE genuine psychics in the world,but Sylvia ain't one
of 'em..
cheers,
Artie
Artemis,the Polyglot Sexpot
>
>> FragileWarrior wrote:
>>> I guess I'm going to have to take her off my "I like her"* list.
>>>
>>> *not to be confused with "I believe her", please
>>
>> apology - not a bunch of excuses and justifications.
>
> something like this. (Don't bet this is an exact quote. They were
> making so much fun of it, I might have remembered some of their words as
> some that actually DID happen. The gist of it was, Sylvia was entirely
> off on the cause of death but she didn't back down an inch.) :
>
> <audience member> I feel so horrible. They never found my fiance. I
> can't get over it. I don't know what to do.
>
> <Browne> He wasn't found because he's in water. You need to look in
> water.
>
> <audience member> ::pause:: Uh, no. He died on 9/11. In the WTC. He
> was a fireman.
>
>
> <Browne> ::not missing a beat:: I'm getting water. Could it be
> something to do with the fire hoses?
>
>
It was on Montel.I posted the link elsewhere in his thread,but here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBNp1Y7fiwA
--
cheers,
Artie
mc
I dunno, I doubt it. They've been together since he's been on (as they
constantly remind everyone). If he admits she's a fraud, he's one too.
mc
Dubewah
to be a pretty good guy and excellent with his guests (esp. those who
have suffered/recovered from horrible situations). Is he the only host
that has a "psychic" on regularly? Isn't he afraid this might ruin his
credibility?
my2cents
Artemis,the Polyglot Sexpot
"-L." <idon...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169163331....@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> FragileWarrior wrote:
>> Dennis Erectus <R...@racing.inv> wrote in news:1d843a6gj4k2d$.mi66hvq2sxfb
>> $.d...@40tude.net:
>>
>> > On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:43:17 +0000 (UTC), FragileWarrior wrote:
>> >
>> >> I guess I'm going to have to take her off my "I like her"* list.
>> >>
>> >> *not to be confused with "I believe her", please
>> >
>> > I can't stand that bitch. You really liked her? For God's sake, why?
>> >
>>
>> I don't know. *shrug* I just did. Sometimes she could be downright LOL
>> funny (intentionally, I mean as opposed to fucking up a prediction
>> badly).
>
> She gives psychics a bad name. You can tell she makes shit up because
> she licks her lips all the time - a sign of lying. I have always
> thought she's full of shit.
>
> I like John Edward though. That guy is incredible. I have read all of
> his books.
>
> -L.
>
I think John Edward is a phony.He appears to be doing classic cold reading
to me.He fishes for details."Is it a name beginning with
'm'?Mandy?Millicient?Miranda?What ?Andy?Yes!That's who I meant!"I mean,come
on!
I've noticed he's not bad at guessing demographic-related
dereavements,tho'..I mean,chances are if you have a 40 yr old woman,she's
grieving either1.one of her elderly parents 2.a small child.If you have an
elderly woman,chances are she's grieving for 1.a late husband 2.an adult
child who died from a fatal illness.
.Shame on these charlatans for exploiting human misery.
--
cheers,
Artie
FragileWarrior
wrote in news:45b28ec8$0$8001$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au:
South Park did a wonderful episode on him. That being said, I always
enjoyed watching him because he had a likeable persona, even though I
knew what he was doing.
MJ's Uncle Tom
<ferall...@SPAMTRAPoptusnet.com.au> posted some
news:45b28ec8$0$8001$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au:
You've never had the pleasure of meeting Ed Wollmann have you?
Tattoo Vampire
> I think John Edward is a phony.He appears to be doing classic cold reading
> to me.He fishes for details."Is it a name beginning with
> 'm'?Mandy?Millicient?Miranda?What ?Andy?Yes!That's who I meant!"I mean,come
> on!
> I've noticed he's not bad at guessing demographic-related
> dereavements,tho'..I mean,chances are if you have a 40 yr old woman,she's
> grieving either1.one of her elderly parents 2.a small child.If you have an
> elderly woman,chances are she's grieving for 1.a late husband 2.an adult
> child who died from a fatal illness.
> .Shame on these charlatans for exploiting human misery.
Read all about Edward the fake here:
http://www.csicop.org/si/2001-11/i-files.html
Be that as it may, on Dateline Edward was actually caught in an attempt to
pass off previously gained knowledge as spirit revelation. During the
session he said of the spirits, "They're telling me to acknowledge
Anthony," and when the cameraman signaled that was his name, Edward seemed
surprised, asking "That's you? Really?" He further queried: "Had you not
seen Dad before he passed? Had you either been away or been distanced?"
Later, playing the taped segment for me, Dateline reporter John Hockenberry
challenged me with Edward's apparent hit: "He got Anthony. That's pretty
good." I agreed but added, "We've seen mediums who mill about before
sessions and greet people and chat with them and pick up things."
Indeed, it turned out that that is just what Edward had done. Hours before
the group reading, Tony had been the cameraman on another Edward shoot
(recording him at his hobby, ballroom dancing). Significantly, the two men
had chatted and Edward had obtained useful bits of information that he
afterward pretended had come from the spirits.
--
Regards,
[tv]
...Capital Punishment means never having to say "you again?"
Nancy Rudins
Bart Bailey wrote:
> In Message-ID:<5os1r2hv4ji501fja...@4ax.com> posted on
> Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:35:14 -0500, Daedalus wrote: Begin
>
>
>>One of the great catch 22s that clergy always have to fall back on.
>>
>>"You must have faith"
>
>
> Nothing like winning the million dollars to bolster that faith, eh?
>
Sylvia Browne predicted that the Dems would take the 2000 presidential
election.
Kind regards,
Nancy
Nancy Rudins
Bart Bailey wrote:
> In Message-ID:<12r6qqi...@news.supernews.com> posted on Sun, 21 Jan
> 2007 07:30:36 -0600, Nancy Rudins wrote: Begin
> Well, bless her heart, it's the thought that counts
> optimism's gotta be worth something.
> What's her call for 2008,
> Lyndon LaRouche with Helga Zepp as veep?
>
>
I admit she's one of my TV guilty pleasures. I like watching her,
even though I know it's all BS.
Kind regards,
Nancy
Christopher Helms
> >eavesdropping on the radio chatter betweeen Popov and his racist
> >wife). He's got little more patience for religious scam artists
> >than any other kind.
>
He's not a charlatin. He genuinely believes that if you claim to have
any ability, or have had any experience whatsoever that doesn't fit in
with the way he thinks the world works, you are either a fool or a
lying fraud and you need to be publicly debunked ASAP, regardless of
whether your experience was legitimate or not. In his own way, James
Randi is every bit as bad as people who automatically believe every
crackpot claim that comes down the pike. Both sides are made up of
closed minded, bullheaded people who can only look at life in a very
limited, one sided way. If there is any truth to psychic ability, UFOs,
premonitions and all these other "borderline experiences," James Randi
is not going to find it. Especially if it's there. Not that I would be
in a big hurry to trust the claims of one of Uri Gellars pals from the
spoonbender crowd, either, but it's really too bad that there's so
little middle ground when it comes to this stuff. What really annoys me
about the Randi /Susan Blackmore crowd is that they refer to themselves
as "Skeptics," which sounds reasonable and implies that if they were
shown evidence of this or that, they might be willing to change their
mind, when in fact there is no evidence that could be shown to them
that would ever make them change their mind. There's a great quote in
'Einsteins Space and Van Goghs Sky' (A book I cannot currently locate,
although it's around here someplace) from a scientist in the 1800s
announcing that he has closed his mind in advance and no evidence could
ever make him change it. That's where James Randi, Susan Blackmore and
the rest of the "skeptics" are, whether they feel like admitting it or
not.
No 33 Secretary
news:1169476953.4...@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:
>
> john wrote:
>> No 33 Secretary <terry.nota...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Randi debunked Peter Popov on the Tonight Show, many years ago
>> >(by eavesdropping on the radio chatter betweeen Popov and his
>> >racist wife). He's got little more patience for religious scam
>> >artists than any other kind.
>>
>> Someone needs to debunk Randi. There's no bigger charlatan
>> than he.
>
> He's not a charlatin. He genuinely believes that if you claim to
> have any ability, or have had any experience whatsoever that
> doesn't fit in with the way he thinks the world works, you are
> either a fool or a lying fraud and you need to be publicly
> debunked ASAP, regardless of whether your experience was
> legitimate or not.
No. He believes that, if you claim to be able to do something, you
should be able to *demonstrate* that you can do what you claim.
So far, nobody has passed even the most cursory examination of
their claims.
Knowledge
<terry.nota...@gmail.com> wrote:
>"Christopher Helms" <Chrish...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:1169476953.4...@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:
>
>>
>> john wrote:
>>> No 33 Secretary <terry.nota...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Randi debunked Peter Popov on the Tonight Show, many years ago
>>> >(by eavesdropping on the radio chatter betweeen Popov and his
>>> >racist wife). He's got little more patience for religious scam
>>> >artists than any other kind.
>>>
>>> Someone needs to debunk Randi. There's no bigger charlatan
>>> than he.
>>
>> He's not a charlatin. He genuinely believes that if you claim to
>> have any ability, or have had any experience whatsoever that
>> doesn't fit in with the way he thinks the world works, you are
>> either a fool or a lying fraud and you need to be publicly
>> debunked ASAP, regardless of whether your experience was
>> legitimate or not.
>
>No. He believes that, if you claim to be able to do something, you
>should be able to *demonstrate* that you can do what you claim.
>
>So far, nobody has passed even the most cursory examination of
>their claims.
I think Randi is a great man. People like Sly Stallone's mother and
the other fakers are doing a lot of harm to people. I took a course in
Parapsychology some years ago. I had predicted a man's death after
shaking hands with him and it came true a few months later. I have
also seen an apparition once when I was with several friends. So I
thought that maybe I had ESP.
Sadly, the instructors gave us all many tests to determine whether we
did or not, and no one in the class scored higher than something that
could be attributed to just guessing the answers.
They ran the Black miss Cleo out of business quickly. So if there is
no White Affirmative action, or special privilege involved, then I
think it is time to shut down all of these White fakers as well
before they do any more harm to people.