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What if the Ft. Hood shooter had been practicing ZionNazi instead of Muslim?

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last_per...@yahoo.com

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Nov 6, 2009, 7:40:13 AM11/6/09
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The mainstream media would be in a pickle, but they'd manage to
downplay it.

Would be a USS Libertyesque thing, when ZioNazis murdered the 34
Americans.

Today, we'd be hearing that the shooter was cleaning his weapon, and
it went off accidentally (unfortunate accident); or that no ZioNazi
shot
anyone, it is an anti-semitic Ft. Hood trying to frame them.

Today is a banner day for the ZioNazi. They are smiling with glee, in
private of course.

cornholio

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Nov 6, 2009, 11:48:02 AM11/6/09
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BUt he wasn't you muslime piece of shit.

Kyle Schwitters

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Nov 6, 2009, 12:31:24 PM11/6/09
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Call it what you will, but this bloodbath is the first major Islam-
inspired suicide "bombing" in the "homeland" since 9/11. Though no
bombs were employed. We believe.

Look for more such attacks, of various kinds, planning for which has
probably been underway for months if not years. Can you picture
dozens killed by a suicider's bomb on a street in New York City?

It's why, for rational security reasons -- every U.S. adult resident
with a Muslim surname, especially those directly involved with the
military, firearms sales and associations, explosive components
purchases, and those in communication with Islamic groups here and
abroad -- ALL should be under watch and monitoring by our CIA and FBI.

Even though those federal agencies under Bush dismally failed us in
the 9/11 disaster.

Remember, everything changed on 9/11, especially trust in and
tolerance of Muslims of every stripe.

The U.S. is at war all right, and ultimately they're about RELIGION.

Who's your enemy, Baby?

Al Nakba

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Nov 6, 2009, 12:53:18 PM11/6/09
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On Nov 6, 4:40 am, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:

He was a filthy asslifter and that's that! btw, a female police
officer capped his arse, hopefully shooting off his gherkin..

Al Nakba

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Nov 6, 2009, 12:54:00 PM11/6/09
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ISLAM DELENDA EST!

last_per...@yahoo.com

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Nov 6, 2009, 2:14:06 PM11/6/09
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KKKornhole can't get it through her dumb kunt skull that
ZioNazis are despised by the whole world. I don't even
know any Muslims, Kornhole.

last_per...@yahoo.com

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Nov 6, 2009, 2:18:36 PM11/6/09
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On Nov 6, 12:31 pm, Kyle Schwitters <slipuva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Call it what you will, but this bloodbath is the first major Islam-
> inspired suicide "bombing" in the "homeland" since 9/11.  Though no
> bombs were employed.  We believe.

"We"? The guy just didn't want to be deployed to Iraq. Don't
be such a paranoid and bigoted nincompoop.

> Look for more such attacks, of various kinds, planning for which has
> probably been underway for months if not years.  Can you picture
> dozens killed by a suicider's bomb on a street in New York City?

Not really. But I can see some Muslims continuing to hate the
United States of Israel.

> It's why, for rational security reasons -- every U.S. adult resident
> with a Muslim surname, especially those directly involved with the
> military, firearms sales and associations, explosive components
> purchases, and those in communication with Islamic groups here and
> abroad -- ALL should be under watch and monitoring by our CIA and FBI.

ZioNazis will be glad to help with this. They'd also suggest shipping
all Muslims to camps--maybe all shot too.

> Even though those federal agencies under Bush dismally failed us in
> the 9/11 disaster.
>
> Remember, everything changed on 9/11, especially trust in and
> tolerance of Muslims of every stripe.
>
> The U.S. is at war all right, and ultimately they're about RELIGION.
>
> Who's your enemy, Baby?

Most informed Americans would say Israel is our biggest enemy,
Sweetie.

yD

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Nov 6, 2009, 2:22:54 PM11/6/09
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Most informed people of any nationality would know the difference
between a Muslim and a Jew and would hold Muslims responsible for
their actions rather than constantly and consistently and incorrectly
blame Jews for the actions of Muslims.
yD

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last_per...@yahoo.com

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On Nov 6, 3:20 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:

> On  6-Nov-2009, yD <yaffad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 6, 2:18 pm, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > Most informed Americans would say Israel is our biggest enemy,
> > > Sweetie.
>
> LOL!!!
> Not even Rush's dittoheads are this dumb!

I.C. of course completely unaware.

Even the Windbag Limbaugh knows to even suggest such
a thing would promptly reduce his mic time to playing
with the Mr. Microphone he'd get from his local WalMart.
Windbag's radio gig would go poof like a Palestinian
baby under a ZioNazi cluster bomb.

cornholio

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Nov 7, 2009, 12:36:45 AM11/7/09
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FOAD you muslime piece of shit.

last_per...@yahoo.com

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Nov 7, 2009, 9:04:16 AM11/7/09
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On Nov 6, 11:48 am, cornholio <andxor...@gmail.com> wrote:

Proof of why ZioNazis should never be given positions of power.
No ZioNazi ever lived who wasn't delusional psycho.

last_per...@yahoo.com

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Nov 7, 2009, 9:06:25 AM11/7/09
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Why do ZioNazis hate their next of kin so much?

mirjam

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Nov 7, 2009, 11:21:38 AM11/7/09
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> Most informed people of any nationality would know the difference
> between a Muslim and a Jew and would hold Muslims responsible for
> their actions rather than constantly and consistently and incorrectly
> blame Jews for the actions of Muslims.
> yD- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thank you i am really disgusted by this last permutation hatred to any
thing Jewish &Israeli , for no reason at all .
And interestingly enough not one Jew ?and or Isreali wrote anything
about that shooting , only the likes os permutation,

mirjam

yD

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Nov 7, 2009, 12:39:09 PM11/7/09
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On Nov 6, 3:19 pm, Bart Bailey <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> In Message-ID:<0ad1fc5b-a557-42c4-b279-44965f56a...@d5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>
> posted on Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:22:54 -0800 (PST), yD wrote: Begin  

>
> >On Nov 6, 2:18 pm, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> <~~~>

>
> >> Most informed Americans would say Israel is our biggest enemy,
> >> Sweetie.
>
> >Most informed people of any nationality would know the difference
> >between a Muslim and a Jew and would hold Muslims responsible for
> >their actions rather than constantly and consistently and incorrectly
> >blame Jews for the actions of Muslims.
> >yD
>
> While it's fairly easy to distinguish the followers of Judaism from Islam,
> what's often blurry is the degree Jewish behavior provokes Muslims.

LOL World Trade Center? What on earth did we Jews do to provoke
that?
USS Cole -- ditto
Bombing of U.S. Embassies in Africa; bombings in Madrid, London and
Glasgow -- what did we do to provoke these?
yD

yD

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Nov 7, 2009, 12:42:08 PM11/7/09
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Thank you. I'm Jewish and really don't care to be blamed for the
terrorist acts of Muslims. OTOH permutation shows us, again, how
ignorance is not bliss, and how easy it is for the right wingers to
use the ignorant for their own purposes.
yD

last_per...@yahoo.com

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On Nov 7, 11:21 am, mirjam <mir...@actcom.co.il> wrote:
> > Most informed people of any nationality would know the difference
> > between a Muslim and a Jew and would hold Muslims responsible for
> > their actions rather than constantly and consistently and incorrectly
> > blame Jews for the actions of Muslims.
> > yD- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Thank you i am really disgusted by this last permutation hatred to any
> thing Jewish

No hatred for anti-ZioNazi Jews, toejam. That obviously doesn't
include
you.

>&Israeli , for no reason at all .

Countless billions of $ in payouts, genocide, apartheid, racism, hate,
treachery, war crimes against a defenseless enemy, and 9-11.
Yeah toejam, no reason at all.

> And interestingly enough not one Jew ?and or Isreali wrote anything
> about that shooting , only the likes os permutation,

Has toejam ever lived one day since age 2 without a lie?
Answer: no.

last_per...@yahoo.com

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Nov 7, 2009, 12:46:07 PM11/7/09
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Kornhole still hasn't explained the reason behind ZioNazi hatred
for their first cousins, the Muslims.

last_per...@yahoo.com

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Nov 8, 2009, 9:07:36 AM11/8/09
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On Nov 7, 12:42 pm, yD <yaffad...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you.  I'm Jewish and really don't care to be blamed for the
> terrorist acts of Muslims.

Duh, of course you don't.

> OTOH permutation shows us, again, how
> ignorance is not bliss, and how easy it is for the right wingers to
> use the ignorant for their own purposes.

<g>
Speaking of ignorance, some of your ilk call me conservative,
others liberal. Which is it? <g>

cornholio

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:10:17 AM11/8/09
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Because Ahmed, the muslime fucks have been persecuting and
murdering Jews ever since bumhammad, your prophet of
pedophilia, shagged his first little girl.

FOAD Ahmed, that way you'll get your 72 virgins that much
earlier.

dsharavi

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Nov 8, 2009, 11:31:15 AM11/8/09
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That said, why are you both trying to teach pigs like this one to
dance?

Deborah

NefeshBarYohai

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Nov 8, 2009, 12:19:24 PM11/8/09
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> Deborah- Hide quoted text -

NefeshBarYohai

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On Nov 8, 9:31 am, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Deborah- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

If I were on the same level as the Muslims, I would write something
like this.

I think we should take a lesson from Mr. Capone. We should collect
all the Muslims here in the USA and systematically line them up
against a wall and gun them down. We should do this on Chanukah and
call it the Saint Chanukah Day massacre. It would be great fun and we
would rid ourselves of all the rat eating stinking Muslim Hashish
smoking masturbators and fornicators. All Muslims should be killed
immediately if not sooner for the betterment of mankind. Remember the
only good Muslim is a dead Muslim. We should also blow up the Dome of
the Rock and kill every stinking Muslim that opposes us. We need to
teach these heathens that murder and mayhem should only be perpetrated
against them since they are the scum of the earth and a bunch of allah
sucking idolatrous butt pirates of the worst nature. They stink like
dog shit in the spring and many of them look like assholes and talk
like candy asses.

But I’m not on the same level the Muslims. I think we (people of all
faiths) should have dialogue that is more open where we can express
truthfully how we feel about one another.

For example, I was in a hospital last week and this girl tried to get
me to take her literature on Jesus. I didn’t know what it was at
first and I started to take it. As she was handing it to me she said,
“You need to pray to Jesus.” As soon as she said that I told her to
keep it because I am Jewish. She said, “Jesus was a Jew.” I just
ignored her and she gave the literature to someone else. What I
really felt like saying was, “Why don’t you stick that up your fat ass
and stop trying to proselytize people you know nothing about you lard
ass cow.”

Remember it’s not the length or sound of the fart that attracts the
heathen but the actual smell of it.

DoD

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Nov 9, 2009, 12:20:20 AM11/9/09
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"dsharavi" <dsha...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3ce04b89-8866-465d...@a37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

Why does she get to call foreskin/last permu a "right winger" .... He is no
conservative... He is more like an extremely mouthy left winger... 99
percent of all anti-semites on this board are leftist bedwetters... Do you
have evidence contrary?

This reminds me of when everyone was thinking that Westboro preacher from
Topeka whos church attacks military funerals, what was his name, Fred
Phelps, was a conservative/republican... Turns out he is a card carrying
democrat....


Joe Bruno

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Nov 9, 2009, 2:25:54 AM11/9/09
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On Nov 6, 4:40 am, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:

Zionism is not a religion. It is a political movement. You don't
"practice" it.
Use the dictionary, ignoramus.

dsharavi

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On Nov 8, 9:20 pm, "DoD" <danskisan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "dsharavi" <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:3ce04b89-8866-465d...@a37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 7, 9:42 am, yD <yaffad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 7, 11:21 am, mirjam <mir...@actcom.co.il> wrote:
>
> > > > Most informed people of any nationality would know the difference
> > > > between a Muslim and a Jew and would hold Muslims responsible for
> > > > their actions rather than constantly and consistently and incorrectly
> > > > blame Jews for the actions of Muslims.
> > > > yD- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Thank you i am really disgusted by this last permutation hatred to any
> > > thing Jewish &Israeli , for no reason at all .
> > > And interestingly enough not one Jew ?and or Isreali wrote anything
> > > about that shooting , only the likes os permutation,
>
> > > mirjam
>
> > Thank you. I'm Jewish and really don't care to be blamed for the
> > terrorist acts of Muslims. OTOH permutation shows us, again, how
> > ignorance is not bliss, and how easy it is for the right wingers to
> > use the ignorant for their own purposes.
> > yD
> >That said, why are you both trying to teach pigs like this >one to dance?
>
> Why does she get to call foreskin/last permu a "right winger" .... He is no
> conservative... He is more like an extremely mouthy left winger...

You're giving the jerkoff way too much credit.

Deborah

drahcir

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On Nov 6, 7:40 am, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
> The mainstream media would be in a pickle, but they'd manage to
> downplay it.

Why not just save bandwidth and announce to the group that you are an
idiot?

last_per...@yahoo.com

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Simply a family feud Kornhole. Learn to make peace
with your cousins, for the sake of family harmony.

guardian Snow

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On Nov 6, 11:40 pm, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
> The mainstream media would be in a pickle, but they'd manage to
> downplay it.
>
> Would be a USS Libertyesque thing, when ZioNazis murdered the 34
> Americans.
>
> Today, we'd be hearing that the shooter was cleaning his weapon, and
> it went off accidentally (unfortunate accident); or that no ZioNazi
> shot
> anyone, it is an anti-semitic Ft. Hood trying to frame them.
>
> Today is a banner day for the ZioNazi.  They are smiling with glee, in
> private of course.

In the past, people have argued that it should be the television and
media executives that reduce violence in programs and movies and this
makes no sense at all. Rather than wait for the fox watching the hen
house, we should be individually responsible for what we watch and
buy… In other words, “If you don’t like the show, change the
channel”.

The campaign against violence must speak to the individual and
illustrate the harmful effects of violence in the media in the modern
world. It’s non-sense to call for regulating industries when people
are still desire violent content and are willing to pay for it and
encourage it by passively watching free to air.

The only truly responsible action is INDIVIDUAL COMMITMENT to not
purchase violent content in any media form and that is what I am
asking for from all people, regardless of faith because when
confronted with the evidence against media violence, it becomes
apparent that we are destroying ourselves with art.

A brief case against media violence:

"Media violence not only increases aggression among viewers, it breeds
a callousness toward violence directed at others."

In 1994, Surgeon General Jocelyn Elders said "By portraying violence
as the normal means of conflict resolution, the media gives youth the
message that violence is socially acceptable and the best way to solve
problems. After 10 years of research, we know that a correlation
exists between violence on television and aggressive behavior in
children."

Research results in two different studies strengthen Elders'
statement.

One study shows that "two years after television was introduced to the
remote city of Notel, Canada, physical aggression in children in the
area increased 160 percent".

Once televison arrived in South Africa, the homicide rates among
whites, which had been in the decline, increased 130 percent in twelve
years. (Goodwin, 49) There may have been other factors which
contributed to the increase in violence, but, these studies show that
television does have an impact on youth behavior.

Dr. Dimitri Christakis of Seattle Children's Hospital Research in a
December 8, 2008 interview, says, “Watching violent cartoons increases
real life aggression. Decades of research have proven that children
imitate what they see on screen – this includes both undesirable and
desirable behaviors”

Research shows a strong link between media violence and the way
children behave. Exposure to screen violence increases real world
aggression. Also, children frequently exposed to violence on
television are indifferent towards real life violent experiences.
Children become immune to the pain and suffering of others. Children
don't have much experience in the real world; that is why it is hard
for them to distinguish between fantasy and reality. Consequently,
they imitate what they see.

As a member of The Children's Broadcast Institute, Toronto child
psychiatrist Dr. Arlette Lefebrve was actively crusading against the
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (a show which was eventually taken off
the air; but not necessarily due to violent content). She found
following examples of the impact the show had on younger viewers: "A
six-year-old boy wearing a turtle costume stabbed a friend in the arm
for not returning a borrowed toy; A three-year-old boy picked up the
family cat and swung it around his head like a Turtle hero wielding a
weapon. When his mother tried to intervene, the boy said "It's just
like Michelangelo".

When an ad is shown on TV, no one expects that it will sell the
product to everybody. If the ad influences only 1% of viewers, it is
considered to be a great success (Medved, 1995). Suppose violent media
make only 1% of the population more aggressive. Should society be
concerned about a percentage so small? The answer is a resounding
"Yes!" Suppose 10 million people watch a violent TV program. If only
1% of the viewers will become more aggressive afterward, then the
violent TV program will make 100,000 people more aggressive! Because
so many people are exposed to violent media, the effect on society can
be immense even if only a small percentage of viewers are affected by
them. It takes only one or two affected students to wreak murderous
havoc in a school.

Much of this material is available on several web sites:
http://www.bluecorncomics.com/grossman.htm

On Nov 10, 9:54 am, Qadosh Stephanos <qadosh.stepha...@yahoo.ca>
wrote:

> >> I want your commitment NOT to attend horror movies or purchase violent
> >> video game or allow your children to rot their brains with shooter
> >> games and explicit music.
>
> >Will anybody join me in saying NO to VIOLENCE in the media?
>
> Does it include your religious oral VIOLENCE in the newsgroups?
> Suggestion:Turn your TV OFF. Nobody is forcing you to watch TV.
> Will anybody join me in saying NO to SNOWS VIOLENCE in the NGs?
>
> John chapter 17.

“Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me.” We use to
sing that song at the start of every church service. To quote a more
recent artist:

“I’m looking at the man in the mirror, I’m asking him to change his
ways.”
Michael Jackson

Violence occurs when it is seen as a solution to the problem of the
individual conducting the violence. Violence seems acceptable as a
solution to those that see the only solution is to hurt somebody else
so that a view point can prevail.

“Violence and arms can never resolve the problems of men. “
Pope John Paul II

My last discussion, I asked, “If Jesus was Dead, who raised him?” The
best answer I got back was, “The Holy Trinity”. The problem with this
answer, in my opinion is that Yehoshua that you know as Jesus is that
trinity and so the conclusion of the answer by my Christian friend is
that, Dead Jesus raised himself according to Trinity practicing
Christians.

They say, “Jesus is God that should be worshiped” and I disagree. The
strongest evidence of this deity is by Thomas in the book of John.

Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Master and my
Mighty One.

A very recent statement to me said,

“The Lord Jesus Christ IS NOT A MERE MAN. NO CHRISTIAN would worship
a man, at least not for very long, when someone would set him straight
on it.”
Bob

I couldn’t agree with you more Bob but then, I’m not a Christian, “I’m
a Messianic” and what this means is that I worship only YAHWEH, the
deity of the “Old Testament” and Moses makes it clear that this deity
is not a man or the son of man.

Num 23:19 El is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man,
that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath
he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

Now, I recognize that from a perspective this might be taken in
another sense as I am sure my Trinity Christians brother do and… I
respect this point of view.

The fact that we can disagree is healthy. The fact that we can agree
to disagree is a solution that ends the never ending debate, the
baseless attacks or the idea that somehow if one person doesn’t force
all the other people to accept your statements as complete truth, you
have failed.

The idea that trinity Christians disagree with Yehoshua being simply a
prophet that has authority and power given to him by a higher power,
YAHWEH, is absolutely evident but…

I do not see the need to force Bob or any of them to subscribe to my
point of view and I see no need to forcefully go around calling
anybody that doesn’t agree with me “an idiot” or any of the other
negative names they seem to toss around on a daily bases.

Psa 44:20 If we have forgotten the Name of our Elohim, Or stretched
out our hands to a foreign mighty one, 21 Would Elohim not search this
out? For He knows the secrets of the heart.

Everything is purposed and created by Elohim to test us and so, for
trinity Christians to have the belief that they have does not mean
they are “going to hell” or facing damnation and for me to say
anything of that accord means that I am attempting to be my brothers
judge.

Jas 3:9 With it we bless our Elohim and Father, and with it we curse
men, who have been made in the likeness of Elohim. 10 Out of the same
mouth proceed blessing and cursing. My brothers, this should not be
so.

While it may trouble other people that I feel no need to correct what
I believe to be a grievous error on his part, I also know that he will
learn his lessons in the time that he is ready.

Isa 55:7 Let the wrong forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his
thoughts. Let him return to Yahweh, who has compassion on him, and to
our Elohim, for He pardons much. 8 “For My thoughts are not your
thoughts, neither are your ways My ways,” declares Yahweh. 9 “For as
the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your
ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts.

Now, many people are adamant that at some point in scriptures, they
imply that violence is needed with our children and I’ve had a long
hard look at this topic. One of the scriptures used to promote
spanking children is:

Pro 23:13 Do not withhold discipline from a child; If you beat
[punish] him with a rod, he does not die.
Pro 23:14 Beat him with a rod And deliver his being from the grave.

The English word “beat” is also translated “punish” [Lev 26:24] and
the word “rod” is a symbol of leadership, like a king’s scepter.
Because the TRANSLATORS believed in beating children, they conveyed
this idea but the reality of this passage is that it can be taken as
simply given strong council.

H5221
נכה
nâkâh
naw-kaw'
A primitive root; to strike (lightly or severely, literally or
figuratively): - beat, cast forth, clap, give [wounds], X go forward,
X indeed, kill, make [slaughter], murderer, punish, slaughter, slay (-
er, -ing), smite (-r, -ing), strike, be stricken, (give) stripes, X
surely, wound.

I find it interesting that this word can be translated anywhere from
kill to wound or punish, which may not include physical violence at
all. Translators pretend to know based on context but reality is that
translating Hebrew is a much more complex undertaking than simple word
for word translations… this is probably why Jews opposed the books
being translated in the first place.

Pro 13:24 He who spares his rod [leadership] hates his son, But he who
loves him, seeks him with discipline.
Pro 19:18 Discipline your son because there is expectation, And do not
set your being on his destruction.
(Included to be comprehensive)

“Discipline” is also translated “instruct” and seems like common sense
but when I examine the Hebrew text, I find no other support for the
idea of beating or spanking kids.

Pro 22:15 Folly is bound up in the heart of a child; The rod
[leadership] of discipline drives it far from him.


Instead of translating the word as “rod”, it might just as well mean
“the leadership of discipline”. That would agree with, “monkey see,
monkey do”… possibly these scriptures like so many others is simply
telling you to set a good example for your children.

Setting the example is something that I strongly agree with because
every modern example I’ve seen of people using these scriptures are
those people who are effectively TYRANTS setting a bad example and
telling others, do as I say, not as I do and the fruit of this bad
teaching is rebellion in almost every instance.

I would not say, “there is no any place for corporal punishment” but
violence is a poor solution, especially to children that simply don’t
understand.

I know my own Father use to spank me on a regular bases and I honestly
think it never really made a big difference in my life. We follow the
examples our parents set for us for good or bad unless we recognize
poor behavior and know to change it. The idea that violence is ever a
solution to problems must be pushed back to the back burner and every
other solution put first.

If we are to, “let the wrong forsake his way” then I don’t see why
that wouldn’t apply to my family and my child first. By allowing my
kids to make mistakes in life, as I did, they can learn from them and
what is important is that I provide LEADERSHIP and a EXAMPLE for them,
not a beating.

To put this argument another way, why would scriptures teach us to
“love our enemies”, “turn the other cheek”, “do onto others as you
would have them do to you” but beat your kids?

If we are to “love our neighbors” as ourselves, I’d say the same
applies to our children and I’m not looking to have them beat me, I’ll
set a good example and remove violence from their lives first.

In conclusion it really isn’t a wonder why so many people live in the
conflict view that we must crush our enemies when the poor translation
of scriptures leads us to believe that violence is a solution that
serves the purpose of YAHWEH. A closer examination of what is written
in Hebrew truly is lost on modern society.

Mat 7:12 “Therefore, whatever you wish men to do to you, do also to
them, for this is the Torah and the Prophets.

The bottom line is that I don’t want my heavenly Father coming down to
beat me so why would I teach other people to beat their children when
it should be the last option after all other tools of rearing children
are exhausted.

Num 6:24 “Yahweh bless you and guard you;
Num 6:25 Yahweh make His face shine upon you, and show favour to you;
Num 6:26 Yahweh lift up His face upon you, and give you peace.” ’

Shalom,
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(¸.•´ (¸.• (Snow(.¸.•*´¨)

Every child senses, with all the horse sense that's in him, that any
parent is angry inside when children misbehave and they dread more the
anger that is rarely or never expressed openly, wondering how awful it
might be.
Benjamin Spock

Exo 20:7 “You do not bring the Name of 'Yud-Heh-Vav-Heh [translated
Yahweh] your Elohim to naught, for Yahweh does not leave the one
unpunished who brings His Name to naught.

The child supplies the power but the parents have to do the steering.
Benjamin Spock

Respond directly:
http://groups.google.com/group/messianicYehoshua
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/messianic_Yehoshua/

http://www.isr-messianic.org/ <- download scriptures free
http://messianicyehoshua.googlegroups.com/web/RNKJV.zip
Restored Names King James for E-sword

http://messianicyehoshua.googlegroups.com/web/Jubilees.pdf
Book of Jubilees

I believe that being successful means having a balance of success
stories across the many areas of your life. You can't truly be
considered successful in your business life if your home life is in
shambles.
Zig Ziglar

Earth Song by Michael Jackson

What about sunrise
What about rain
What about all the things
That you said we were to gain.. .
What about killing fields
Is there a time
What about all the things
That you said was yours and mine...
Did you ever stop to notice
All the blood we've shed before
Did you ever stop to notice
The crying Earth the weeping shores?

Aaaaaaaaaah Aaaaaaaaaah

What have we done to the world
Look what we've done
What about all the peace
That you pledge your only son...
What about flowering fields
Is there a time
What about all the dreams
That you said was yours and mine...
Did you ever stop to notice
All the children dead from war
Did you ever stop to notice
The crying Earth the weeping shores

Aaaaaaaaaaah Aaaaaaaaaaah

I used to dream
I used to glance beyond the stars
Now I don't know where we are
Although I know we've drifted far

Aaaaaaaaaaah Aaaaaaaaaaaah
Aaaaaaaaaaah Aaaaaaaaaaaah

Hey, what about yesterday
(What about us)
What about the seas
(What about us)
The heavens are falling down
(What about us)
I can't even breathe
(What about us)
What about the bleeding Earth
(What about us)
Can't we feel its wounds
(What about us)
What about nature's worth
(ooo,ooo)
It's our planet's womb
(What about us)
What about animals
(What about it)
We've turned kingdoms to dust
(What about us)
What about elephants
(What about us)
Have we lost their trust
(What about us)
What about crying whales
(What about us)
We're ravaging the seas
(What about us)
What about forest trails
(ooo, ooo)
Burnt despite our pleas
(What about us)
What about the holy land
(What about it)
Torn apart by creed
(What about us)
What about the common man
(What about us)
Can't we set him free
(What about us)
What about children dying
(What about us)
Can't you hear them cry
(What about us)
Where did we go wrong
(ooo, ooo)
Someone tell me why
(What about us)
What about babies
(What about it)
What about the days
(What about us)
What about all their joy
(What about us)
What about the man
(What about us)
What about the crying man
(What about us)
What about Abraham
(What was us)
What about death again
(ooo, ooo)
Do we give a damn

cornholio

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Nov 10, 2009, 4:43:11 PM11/10/09
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A far better question would be why don't you kill yourself now and
enjoy your 72 virgins sooner rather than later?

cornholio

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Nov 10, 2009, 4:48:11 PM11/10/09
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Mass deportation and outlawing their fucked up religion of genocidal
hatred and intolerance might achieve the same ends.

> But I’m not on the same level the Muslims.  I think we (people of all
> faiths) should have dialogue that is more open where we can express
> truthfully how we feel about one another.
>

The above won't work w/an ideology that condones lying and genocide
to achieve its ends.

> For example, I was in a hospital last week and this girl tried to get
> me to take her literature on Jesus.  I didn’t know what it was at
> first and I started to take it.  As she was handing it to me she said,
> “You need to pray to Jesus.”  As soon as she said that I told her to
> keep it because I am Jewish.  She said, “Jesus was a Jew.”  I just
> ignored her and she gave the literature to someone else.  What I
> really felt like saying was, “Why don’t you stick that up your fat ass
> and stop trying to proselytize people you know nothing about you lard
> ass cow.”
>

You should've of told her she should convert to Judaism then!

cornholio

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Nov 10, 2009, 4:48:50 PM11/10/09
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Screw off to Saudi Barbaria arselifting vermin.

guardian Snow

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Nov 10, 2009, 5:51:45 PM11/10/09
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On Nov 11, 8:43 am, cornholio <andxor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A far better question would be why don't you kill yourself now and
> enjoy your 72 virgins sooner rather than later?

Only because you live in a paradox of the conflict view rather then
respect for human life and other peoples beliefs which aren't even
mine.

Why would you advocate any person be harmed instead of seeking to help
them. Seems to me your just another part of the plague that thinks
the solution relies on violence. The idea that one must “crush” the
competition is wrong and that is not capitalism. “Living to win”
means that you seek to be better than a competitor in the good opinion
of other people, not a destroyer. A poor idea, goods or service will
naturally not be consumed by the mass market.

“The conflict view asserts that only one strain of doctrine can assume
the commanding heights, and so all the progress of groups lower on the
faith chain depends on unseating others from power. Secular groups can
hold this view, believing that religion must be vanquished from the
earth, and so too with religious groups that believe secularism must
be destroyed.

This is why we hear about "breaking barriers" rather than encouraging
opportunity, about policies rather than freedom, about power rather
than entrepreneurship. For the media writing about all this, it is the
only intellectual model they have in mind. The conflict view of
society was taught to them in college and is reinforced daily in the
press. Also, unless you have some clear filter in mind, it seems like
the conflict view is supported by plenty of evidence, given that the
rise of the state has actually generated social antagonism where none
should exist.”
Llewellyn H. Rockwell

last_per...@yahoo.com

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Nov 10, 2009, 6:13:10 PM11/10/09
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Why would I do that Kornhole? Good mental health
and ZioTurdery; like screen doors on submarines.

yD

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Nov 13, 2009, 4:21:38 PM11/13/09
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I know what I think, what others think of you is nothing to do with
me. Or the Jews.
yD

yD

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Nov 13, 2009, 4:22:25 PM11/13/09
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sigh. Because sometimes it is hard to resist the temptation.
yD

yD

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Nov 13, 2009, 4:25:46 PM11/13/09
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What is a NioNazi? And it's the Muslims who hate us, not just Jews
but other Muslims and non-Muslims.
yD

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