Runaway Groom? What do you think?
Kris Baker
Groom found stabbed just before wedding
Salt Lake Tribune
Stabbed Sandy groom says he 'was attacked'
Kent Sadler was supposed to have been married between 5:30 and 6 p.m.
Saturday when guests arrived at the site of his Layton wedding. Instead,
Sadler, 24, was found about 6:20 p.m. stabbed - more than once, and in more
than one place - at the bottom of a flight of stairs that lead to his Sandy
apartment. He was not yet dressed for the wedding.
Sadler, who was in satisfactory condition Monday at LDS Hospital, said "that
he was attacked," said Sandy Sgt. Michelle Burnette. Officers are
investigating, she said. Sadler had planned to change into his tuxedo at the
site of the ceremony. But between 5:15 p.m. and 5:30 p.m., a neighbor heard
what sounded like thumping down the stairs that lead to Sadler's apartment
at the Legends at River Oaks apartment complex, 9425 S. Riverside Drive (800
West). Police did not find any indication of a struggle inside the apartment
but located blood near the exterior of the staircase, close to Sadler's
apartment door. A trail of blood led down the stairs, and at the bottom lay
Sadler, a knife alongside his body.
Both the weapon and blood at the scene were sent to the crime lab.
Investigators did not have any immediate explanation for the attack,
Burnette said. - Justin Hill
ronniecat
15:59:36 GMT "Kris Baker" <kris....@prodigyyy.net> wrote:
>http://www.sltrib.com/portlet/article/html/fragments/print_article.jsp?article=3105192
>Stabbed Sandy groom says he 'was attacked'
> Kent Sadler was supposed to have been married between 5:30 and 6 p.m.
>Saturday when guests arrived at the site of his Layton wedding. Instead,
>Sadler, 24, was found about 6:20 p.m. stabbed - more than once, and in more
>than one place - at the bottom of a flight of stairs that lead to his Sandy
>apartment. He was not yet dressed for the wedding.
<snip>
Wow. Either a big coincidence or a jilted lover... I can't see this
being a "runaway groom" (self-inflicted injuries) given the
description of multiple stab wounds in more than one place - maybe
it's just me, but I can see someone stabbing themselves once in
desperation, but multiple times? Even if they are superficial cuts
you'd think the sight of the blood would freak out someone faking an
attack on themselves.
Please post any followup you see... intriguing case.
ronnie
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story...multiple locations to me isn't key, but depth/seriousness of wounds
is...
whatever happened to "I've changed my mind?"
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ronniecat wrote:
> Recklessly waiving the right to remain silent, on Tue, 11 Oct 2005
> 15:59:36 GMT "Kris Baker" <kris....@prodigyyy.net> wrote:
>
> >http://www.sltrib.com/portlet/article/html/fragments/print_article.jsp?article=3105192
>
> >Stabbed Sandy groom says he 'was attacked'
> > Kent Sadler was supposed to have been married between 5:30 and 6 p.m.
> >Saturday when guests arrived at the site of his Layton wedding. Instead,
> >Sadler, 24, was found about 6:20 p.m. stabbed - more than once, and in more
> >than one place - at the bottom of a flight of stairs that lead to his Sandy
> >apartment. He was not yet dressed for the wedding.
>
> <snip>
>
> Wow. Either a big coincidence or a jilted lover... I can't see this
> being a "runaway groom" (self-inflicted injuries) given the
> description of multiple stab wounds in more than one place - maybe
> it's just me, but I can see someone stabbing themselves once in
> desperation, but multiple times? Even if they are superficial cuts
> you'd think the sight of the blood would freak out someone faking an
> attack on themselves.
>
> Please post any followup you see... intriguing case.
>
> ronnie
Mapquest shows a drive time of 43 minutes between Layton (wedding
location) and Sandy (apartment location). As neighbors heard noises
around the time the wedding was supposed to start (5:30), I say we have
an unusually creative attempt to ditch a prospective spouse.
He makes "being kidnapped and forced into lesbian sex" look like a
kindergartener's excuse. (if, of course, it's faked).
de Fragile Warrior Sports Supplies
> 15:59:36 GMT "Kris Baker" <kris....@prodigyyy.net> wrote:
>
>>http://www.sltrib.com/portlet/article/html/fragments/print_article.jsp?article=3105192
>
>>Stabbed Sandy groom says he 'was attacked'
>> Kent Sadler was supposed to have been married between 5:30 and 6 p.m.
>>Saturday when guests arrived at the site of his Layton wedding. Instead,
>>Sadler, 24, was found about 6:20 p.m. stabbed - more than once, and in
>>more
>>than one place - at the bottom of a flight of stairs that lead to his
>>Sandy
>>apartment. He was not yet dressed for the wedding.
If you're st00pid/desperate enough to stab yourself, I wouldn't suppose
seeing blood is something that would scare you.
ronniecat
>I say he did it to himself...article has a tone of police not accepting
>story...multiple locations to me isn't key, but depth/seriousness of wounds
>is...
>whatever happened to "I've changed my mind?"
Got harder to say when weddings started costing $12,000, deposits were
non-refundable and jilted brides & grooms started suing the "jilter"
:)
Kris Baker
> 15:59:36 GMT "Kris Baker" <kris....@prodigyyy.net> wrote:
>
>>http://www.sltrib.com/portlet/article/html/fragments/print_article.jsp?article=3105192
>
>>Stabbed Sandy groom says he 'was attacked'
>> Kent Sadler was supposed to have been married between 5:30 and 6 p.m.
>>Saturday when guests arrived at the site of his Layton wedding. Instead,
>>Sadler, 24, was found about 6:20 p.m. stabbed - more than once, and in
>>more
>>than one place - at the bottom of a flight of stairs that lead to his
>>Sandy
>>apartment. He was not yet dressed for the wedding.
>
> <snip>
>
> Wow. Either a big coincidence or a jilted lover... I can't see this
> being a "runaway groom" (self-inflicted injuries) given the
> description of multiple stab wounds in more than one place - maybe
> it's just me, but I can see someone stabbing themselves once in
> desperation, but multiple times? Even if they are superficial cuts
> you'd think the sight of the blood would freak out someone faking an
> attack on themselves.
>
> Please post any followup you see... intriguing case.
>
> ronnie
I will. I meant to post the Tribune story yesterday, and forgot.
Both seem to put key words in quotation marks.
We had a case in Utah, where EVERYONE knew that the
husband had stabbed his family to death, but they brought
in a high-paid forensics expert (Michael Baden) to
convince the jury that the wife had done it, then stabbed
herself to death. Baden told them that the defensive
wounds on her hands were really caused when the bloody
knife slipped while she stabbed herself.
I never bought it, and neither did anyone but the jurors.
When my daughter was taking a 911 dispatch class, they
played the Sam Kastanis call....where he talked about
finding his son with his fingers cut off, then noticed he
was REALLY bloody, then noticed he was dead! dead!
(Supposedly, he was in the back yard while his wife
killed the kids and herself.)
So I think many Utahns are pre-supposed to believe that
you can stab yourself multiple times.
Kris
Bo Raxo
> Recklessly waiving the right to remain silent, on Tue, 11 Oct 2005
> 18:57:56 GMT <cro...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >I say he did it to himself...article has a tone of police not accepting
> >story...multiple locations to me isn't key, but depth/seriousness of
wounds
> >is...
> >whatever happened to "I've changed my mind?"
>
> Got harder to say when weddings started costing $12,000, deposits were
> non-refundable and jilted brides & grooms started suing the "jilter"
So true. Friend of mine called off his wedding earlier this year, about 60
days before the cursed event. She kept the $10K ring, when he went to their
shared condo to move his stuff was on the front lawn (including furniture)
and the police were there. He had paid for most of the wedding costs, but
her parents convinced her to sue for the few things they had paid for, like
printing of wedding invitations - fortunately, many of his friends are
attorneys, and that suit didn't go anywhere.
And even though his betrothed she-zilla had gradually developed a drinking
problem and started binge-purging until she looked like an inverted mop, it
was incredibly hard for the guy to break it off.
Hunter
Actually you can, depending on where you stab yourself. Japanese men
and women who have commited ritual Seppiku (sp?) i.e. suicide via sword
has done some amazing things with their swords, stab the twist and lift
it, gutting themselves.
Did they say were she stab herself repeatedly? And what was the
prosecution's cross of Dr. Baden?
--->Hunter
Kris Baker
"Hunter" <buffh...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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I remember seeing the film "Sayonara" when I was a kid,
and it scared the beejesus out of me.
> Did they say were she stab herself repeatedly? And what was the
> prosecution's cross of Dr. Baden?
>
> --->Hunter
She had multiple stab wounds, which the defense said were self-inflicted.
He said she was the only one who had no defensive wounds (unlike the
children), but that the cuts on her hand were from the knife slipping.
It was the subject of an HBO Autopsy episode; there's some interesting
pictures here:
http://www.hbo.com/autopsy/episode/episode_3_the_sam_kastanis_case.html
They say it was Dr Joseph Burton, not Baden...but I was sure it was Baden.
Oh, well.
Our local "free weekly" had a damning article about Kastanis shortly after
his acquittal, which pointed out the things not brought into the case by the
prosecution. The wife was a bit "nutty", but it seemed a reaction to the
overbearing husband who wanted her to pump out children at all cost.
The only sane thing Kastanis himself did, was hire our best local defense
attorney:
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,615152831,00.html
I can't remember the cross-examination, but I know Yengitch pretty much
plowed over a less-effective prosecution.
Kris