Liquid restrictions - how strict?
CJ
a 100ml bittle - the smallest is 120ml, and because it's sterile I
can't just decant it into something smaller.
And secondly, I can't find a small enough ziplock bag - my local
sainsbury's only has the 'medium' ones, which are a few centimetres
bigger than the stipulated 20 x 20. And I really don't want to have to
run around London trying to find smaller ones!
Does anyone know how strict the checks are? Will 120ml instead of
100ml be a problem? Will the slightly bigger bag be an issue, and if
so, are they still handing out bags at the airport?
Lansbury
>Will 120ml instead of
>100ml be a problem?
yes
>Will the slightly bigger bag be an issue, and if
yes
>so, are they still handing out bags at the airport?
depends on the airport LHR was still yesterday
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Roland Perry
09:21:36 on Thu, 9 Nov 2006, CJ <cj_ju...@mail.com> remarked:
>I'm flying next week, and firstly I can't find contact lens solution in
>a 100ml bittle - the smallest is 120ml, and because it's sterile I
>can't just decant it into something smaller.
A traditional pharmacy should be able to sell you sterile empty bottles.
>And secondly, I can't find a small enough ziplock bag - my local
>sainsbury's only has the 'medium' ones, which are a few centimetres
>bigger than the stipulated 20 x 20. And I really don't want to have to
>run around London trying to find smaller ones!
I bought some bags the other day "resealable", but when I got them home
they turned out to be the ones with the post-it-note glue inside, rather
than a zip :( Still not found any small zippered bags.
>Does anyone know how strict the checks are? Will 120ml instead of
>100ml be a problem? Will the slightly bigger bag be an issue, and if
>so, are they still handing out bags at the airport?
We've seen no reports here. I'm off on another trip in a few days, and
if I find out anything useful I'll post it.
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Roland Perry
CJ
Air wrote:
> The message <1163092895....@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
> from "CJ" <cj_ju...@mail.com> contains these words:
>
> > I'm flying next week, and firstly I can't find contact lens solution in
> > a 100ml bittle - the smallest is 120ml, and because it's sterile I
> > can't just decant it into something smaller.
>
Hmm, I definitely didn't see any at Boots. Maybe I missed - I need the
solution for hard lenses, so I might not have looked thoroughly at the
others. Thanks for the pointer, though, I'll try again at a larger
Boots.
> With regard to bags, the larger Tesco stores sell Ziploc bags* [however
> they are not all clear as have white areas for labelling the contents
> for freezer], but your best bet for this sort of thing, and any travel
> sized toiletries is Wilkinsons, [sometimes called Wilko] and Savers too,
> rather than the usual chemists.
Ah, didn't think of Tesco! I'll them tomorrow, thanks :-)
> * these and Hefty are less than half the price in the the US and I
> always bring back several boxes on each visit, of all 3 sizes.
>
> --
> Pam
Miss L. Toe
> >Will the slightly bigger bag be an issue, and if
>
> yes
>
Whilst what you say is undoubted true:
(I am sure it said approx 20cms last week when I checked)
The TSA http://www.tsa.gov/approach/harmonization.shtm claim that there is
international harmonization on a one quart bag. I happen to have a one quart
ziploc bag bought in the USA and it is slightly bigger than 20cmx20cm. It'll
be interesting to see if they turn me away on Sunday, and if they do what'll
happen to the liquids I am carrying.
Of course the jobsworth's will be on the strict lookout for returning
american visitors who are trying to recycle their one quart internationally
harmonized ziploc bags belmarsh will be full in weeks.
Miss L. Toe
"Miss L. Toe" <missltoe...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45543179$0$97235$892e...@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net...
> >
> > >Will the slightly bigger bag be an issue, and if
> >
> > yes
> >
>
> Whilst what you say is undoubted true:
>
> http://www.baa.com/
>
> (I am sure it said approx 20cms last week when I checked)
>
>
> The TSA http://www.tsa.gov/approach/harmonization.shtm claim that there is
> international harmonization on a one quart bag. I happen to have a one
quart
> ziploc bag bought in the USA and it is slightly bigger than 20cmx20cm.
It'll
> be interesting to see if they turn me away on Sunday, and if they do
what'll
> happen to the liquids I am carrying.
>
I just measured it - It is 18cm x 22cm
Roland Perry
at 07:59:56 on Fri, 10 Nov 2006, Miss L. Toe
<missltoe...@hotmail.com> remarked:
>Whilst what you say is undoubted true:
>
>http://www.baa.com/
>
>(I am sure it said approx 20cms last week when I checked)
It says 20cm (remember, the Europeans are following a EU-imposed
regulation, that will be expressed in metric), which they translate to
8x8 inches, and again to "one litre capacity".
I measured a 20x20 bag [actually it's 19.0x21.5] just now and packed
full, but closeable with the seal, it's 45 floz (dry rice used as
filling material), which is 1.25 litres and 1.3 quarts; so fairly
consistent. Normally you wouldn't pack it that full.
>The TSA http://www.tsa.gov/approach/harmonization.shtm claim that there is
>international harmonization on a one quart bag. I happen to have a one quart
>ziploc bag bought in the USA and it is slightly bigger than 20cmx20cm.
I think you are doing what the TSA warns against, and are "overthinking"
the rules. Bags like this aren't usually sold by volume in the UK
anyway. The general rule is harmonised, but the expression of that rule
is in the nearest commonly used units in the country concerned.
>It'll be interesting to see if they turn me away on Sunday, and if they
>do what'll happen to the liquids I am carrying.
The same as happened before last week: Into a plastic dustbin next to
the x-ray machine!
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Roland Perry
Miss L. Toe
> >It'll be interesting to see if they turn me away on Sunday, and if they
> >do what'll happen to the liquids I am carrying.
>
> The same as happened before last week: Into a plastic dustbin next to
> the x-ray machine!
I hope they don't leak - some of these common household liquids can be very
dangerous when mixed together you know...... (especially a dustbin full
which is much more than 100ml... how many gills is that ?) and we wouldn't
want anything nasty to happen to the jobsworths would we...
Lansbury
<missltoe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >Will the slightly bigger bag be an issue, and if
>>
>> yes
>>
>
>Whilst what you say is undoubted true:
I can only go by what I saw, they did seem to be making a big issue of it, and
had again erected the marquees outside the terminals in anticipation of the
delays these new requirements might cause.
Certainly on Monday T4 queues were out the door again.
Neil Williams
> Certainly on Monday T4 queues were out the door again.
And at BHX T1 and T2 they were as short as ever. At Schiphol they were
a bit longer than usual, but not excessively, and as security is at the
gate nobody was missing any flights.
What *is* it with BAA?
Neil
Roland Perry
11:07:39 on Fri, 10 Nov 2006, Neil Williams <pace...@gmail.com>
remarked:
>What *is* it with BAA?
They seem unwilling or unable to staff up for the demand. But Luton is
just as bad - four out of nine or ten immigration booths staffed last
week when I arrived, with a resultant scrum and 15 minutes queue. I
suppose my question is this: who isn't paying enough for a proper
staffing level there; is it the airport or the Home Office?
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Roland Perry
Neil Williams
> They seem unwilling or unable to staff up for the demand.
Indeed - and it is a national disgrace. The Government should
intervene to resolve the matter.
> But Luton is
> just as bad - four out of nine or ten immigration booths staffed last
> week when I arrived, with a resultant scrum and 15 minutes queue. I
> suppose my question is this: who isn't paying enough for a proper
> staffing level there; is it the airport or the Home Office?
Not sure, but I have noticed that one as well. Another common
situation is that there'll be 3 immigration officers staffing one
booth. Why, one wonders, not staffing 3?
That said, the latter situation is of much smaller consequence to me as
I almost always check in a bag, so said queue is usually just spending
time that would otherwise be spent waiting at the carousel. The former
is far more important, as it results in most passengers having to turn
up ridiculously early for a flight or risk not getting on. It is the
main reason I will go out of my way to avoid LHR.
Neil
Theo Markettos
> A further bit of research deduces they do not make less than 120ml
> bottles of soaking solution, even the travel packs have 120ml bottles,
> It really should be kept in its original container imo.. obviously the
> PTB that make these rules look no further than their noses as usual. Ask
> an optician if they have a free trial bottle pack or take a couple of
> new lens cases [20ml? a go] full of it for the trip..
One option might be to erase the printing of '120ml' from the bottle - I doubt
they're going to be carefully measuring the sizes of every single bottle
they see.
Theo
Roland Perry
08:22:45 on Sat, 11 Nov 2006, Neil Williams <pace...@gmail.com>
remarked:
>Another common situation is that there'll be 3 immigration officers
>staffing one booth. Why, one wonders, not staffing 3?
I don't see that very often anywhere, and assume it's because one of
them is being trained by the other two. (Or two by one perhaps).
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Roland Perry
Roland Perry
remarked:
>And at BHX T1 and T2 they were as short as ever.
hmm, BHX T1 running at half capacity this evening; 2 out of 4 machines
operating. Queue of 40 minutes. Handing out plentiful supply of plastic
bags though.
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Roland Perry