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dand...@gmail.com

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Apr 13, 2008, 10:10:46 PM4/13/08
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Hello Group,

I live in Canada, but later this summer I'm visiting my mother
oversees, and I'm thinking about getting her a rather expensive gold
necklace that I found on eBay from a U.S based seller. The item is
sure to be inspected by customs on its way from US to Canada.

My question: Since the necklace is going into Canada, but permanently
leaving it again in a couple of months, is there a way I can avoid
paying its high Canadian customs? For example, can I stop at customs
office at the airport before I board my international flight, to
demonstrate that the necklace is leaving with me?

Thanks for any advice!

S.D

MI

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Apr 13, 2008, 10:20:41 PM4/13/08
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On 4/13/08 7:10 PM, in article
fcb35dab-7232-4993...@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,
"dand...@gmail.com" <dand...@gmail.com> wrote:

Why don't you phone Canada Customs and ask them. There may be a special way
to bring it into the country. You may be able to bring it in "in bond".

--
Martha Canada


Rudy

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Apr 13, 2008, 11:30:32 PM4/13/08
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For example, can I stop at customs
>> office at the airport before I board my international flight, to
>> demonstrate that the necklace is leaving with me?

Yes, they;ll give you a small green card indication you took it "out"


MoiMoi

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Apr 14, 2008, 12:51:05 AM4/14/08
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In article <fcb35dab-7232-4993-a9f0-
2c6654...@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, dand...@gmail.com says...

Oh for c'sakes.
Just wear it.
They won't say anything, and if they should, you bought it years ago
from a neighbor in Saskatoon, right?

MM

Brian K

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Apr 14, 2008, 1:23:03 AM4/14/08
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Have you made the purchase yet? If not, when you do have it shipped to
mom requesting gift wrap. I do that with QVC or Overstock.com all the
time. If there is any duty, they figure it into the shipping fee. You
might also shop QVC, or Amazon.com. Those companies usually ship out of
a warehouse close to the addressee avoiding the duty issue altogether.

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dand...@gmail.com

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Apr 14, 2008, 1:45:30 AM4/14/08
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On Apr 14, 12:51 am, MoiMoi <moi...@example.com> wrote:
> In article <fcb35dab-7232-4993-a9f0-
> 2c6654517...@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, dandas...@gmail.com says...

ROFL!

The fact that I'm a homely looking "GUY", do not sport excessive chest
hair or a mustache, nor do I own any silk shirts, would make me more
than nervous trying to cross Canadian customs while actually wearing
an undeclared heavy gold necklace :D

Besides, the necklace (which I haven't purchased yet) would cross from
US to Canada by courier.

I'm wondering if anyone has more info on the "small green card" that
Rudy mentioned above - and how it would help me later avoid paying
undue customs/duties.

Jame...@gmail.com

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Apr 14, 2008, 1:46:29 AM4/14/08
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> Since the necklace is going into Canada, but permanently
> leaving it again in a couple of months, is there a way I can
> avoid paying its high Canadian customs?

Generally speaking there isn't any customs duty charged when items
MANUFACTURED in the U.S. are shipped to Canada. This is because of the
North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).

However, just because you're buying from a vendor in the U.S. that
doesn't necessarily mean the necklace was manufactured in the U.S.
Customs inspectors may try to determine where it was originally made
by looking for a manufacturer's mark, etc.

Best thing to do is check with Canadian customs ahead of time for the
official regulations.


> can I stop at customs ... before I board my international flight, to


> demonstrate that the necklace is leaving with me?

If duty was assessed months earlier when it was shipped to you, I
don't think you can get that refunded later.

Lumpy

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Apr 14, 2008, 2:17:20 AM4/14/08
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dand...@gmail.com wrote:
> I'm wondering if anyone has more info on the "small green card" that
> Rudy mentioned above - and how it would help me later avoid paying
> undue customs/duties.

It's at any US post office. Takes 30 sec to fill
out. Guarantee's delivery to almost anywhere in
the world (not places like Mosul or Mogadishu or
Roswell). If you're in Canada, it's probably worth
your time to either travel over the border to the
US, or to establish a friend on "our side". You
just have to sign the thing, swearing that it's
a gift and that it's not a bomb.

And don't discount that "gay lifestyle appearance".
It gets you cuts in line in Austin and a discounted
admission to ANA coin shows.


Lumpy

In Your Ears for 40 Years
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Mark Brader

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Apr 14, 2008, 5:04:24 AM4/14/08
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S.D.:

> My question: Since the necklace is going into Canada, but permanently
> leaving it again in a couple of months, is there a way I can avoid
> paying its high Canadian customs? ..

The obvious answer is to talk to Canada Customs... er, excuse
me, "Border Services"... about it. There are indeed procedures
for temporary duty-free importation of goods, but the document
<http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d8/d8-1-1-eng.pdf> that
lays out the rules is not meant to be read by a normal human being.

My guess, based on a related situation that I looked up information
about once, is that when it arrives you declare to customs as a
temporary import, pay a deposit equal to the duty and GST (or HST,
depending on where you live), and get some documentation. When you
take it back out of the country, you visit the Canadian customs office
at the border or airport of departure, show the necklace and your
boarding pass and the documentation, and get the deposit back.

However, this assumes that they say it is eligible for such treatment,
and whether that's the case I can't say.

The alternative, of course, is to have it shipped directly to the
ultimate recipient in the first place and not take it through Canada.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "Do people confuse me with Mark Brader?"
m...@vex.net --Mark Barratt

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Mark Brader

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Apr 14, 2008, 5:06:24 AM4/14/08
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This looks like a confusion with the small green card that you use for
goods you are temporarily *removing* from Canada, like if you travel
with an expensive camera or computer. It proves, when you return, that
you already had the goods inside Canada once and therefore you are not
now importing them. This has nothing to do with temporary imports.
--
Mark Brader "It flies like a truck."
Toronto "Good. What is a truck?"
m...@vex.net -- BUCKAROO BANZAI

Brian K

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Apr 14, 2008, 1:32:37 PM4/14/08
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I have a gay friend who's a major philatelist. He's always going to
philatelist conventions. He says that they are better than going to the
local gay bar for socializing. Stop your sniggering. A philatelist is
not what you may think. Look it up in your Funk & Wagnells.

Rudy

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Apr 16, 2008, 1:40:48 AM4/16/08
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>> I'm wondering if anyone has more info on the "small green card" that
>> Rudy mentioned above - and how it would help me later avoid paying
>> undue customs/duties.
>
> It's at any US post office. Takes 30 sec to fill
> out.

NO NO NO..the Green card given by Canada Customs doesn't have anything to do
with the green "shipping declaration" sticker used by the US Postal service.

The Canada customs one specifies that the described item is IN the country
(Canada) and is being taken out..and infers that it will probably be brought
back in again. I'd take a photo of the thing with me and perhaps they can
stamp the photo and attach it to the card to ease re-entry


Pakistan Boy

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Jun 26, 2009, 10:20:51 PM6/26/09
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I had the same problem and trust me, its not worth the headache.  When the item arrives you need to goto Customs Office, for Toronto that the Person airport office.  Open the package there and take a picture and have the customs officer certify the picture.  They have to certify it to show the GST was paid for that particular item.
 
Now on exit show that and claim your GST back.  You are better off using import permit.. much simpler.
 
Good luck.
 

Smiles

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Jun 27, 2009, 9:42:29 AM6/27/09
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Pakistan Boy wrote:
> I had the same problem and trust me, its not worth the headache. When
> the item arrives you need to goto Customs Office, for Toronto that the
> Person airport office. Open the package there and take a picture and
> have the customs officer certify the picture. They have to certify it
> to show the GST was paid for that particular item.
>
> Now on exit show that and claim your GST back. You are better off using
> import permit.. much simpler.
>
> Good luck.
>
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> <dand...@gmail.com <mailto:dand...@gmail.com>> wrote in message
> news:fcb35dab-7232-4993...@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > I live in Canada, but later this summer I'm visiting my mother
> > oversees, and I'm thinking about getting her a rather expensive gold
> > necklace that I found on eBay from a U.S based seller. The item is
> > sure to be inspected by customs on its way from US to Canada.
> >
> > My question: Since the necklace is going into Canada, but permanently
> > leaving it again in a couple of months, is there a way I can avoid
> > paying its high Canadian customs? For example, can I stop at customs
> > office at the airport before I board my international flight, to
> > demonstrate that the necklace is leaving with me?
> >
> > Thanks for any advice!
> >
> > S.D
> >
get a customs slip when you exit a photo may be needed this is your id
on reentry the country of entry my ask for an import bond refundable on exit
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