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Dreamwave Transformers #4 Ending (Spoiler)

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Ethan Hammond

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Jul 19, 2002, 7:24:52 AM7/19/02
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I don't understand....

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What is supposed to be going on with Devastator. It looks like he is holding
Megatron or something. I don't understand at all. Anybody figure it out.
Thanks.

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Ted Daniel

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Jul 19, 2002, 8:53:07 AM7/19/02
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"Ethan Hammond" <esha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> I don't understand....
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> What is supposed to be going on with Devastator. It looks like he is
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> Megatron or something. I don't understand at all. Anybody figure it out.
> Thanks.

I think he's holding one of the Arialbots, so without Superion to fight him,
he will be undefeatable?


G.B.Blackrock

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Jul 19, 2002, 1:30:17 PM7/19/02
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"Ted Daniel" <tdan...@cox.net> wrote in message news:<TYTZ8.147062$DB.48...@news1.east.cox.net>...

It does seem, in this strange universe DW has created, that the
Protectobots don't exist (let alone any TFs created after year 3).

I'm afraid that, if DW ever does another G1 series with Sarrachini
(sp?) as the writer, I'm going to have to break my record of getting
all TF comics ever made... He just can't cut it.

Anyone want to start a discussion on who's worse: Budianski or
Sarrachini? (maybe not a good idea....)

My two cents,
G.B. Blackrock

Jackpot

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Jul 19, 2002, 4:03:56 PM7/19/02
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Ted Daniel wrote:

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> Ethan Hammond wrote:
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>> I don't understand....
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>> What is supposed to be going on with Devastator. It looks like he is
> holding
>> Megatron or something. I don't understand at all. Anybody figure it
>> out. Thanks.
>
> I think he's holding one of the Arialbots,

He is. It may seem weird because the individual Aerialbot is so much
smaller than he would've been as part of Superion, but that *is*
consistent with the cartoon. Remember Starscream standing on Bruticus's
shoulder in "Starscream's Brigade"? The gestalts, for whatever reason,
are much bigger than their individual components. (Heh. Another reason
to use that term...)

> so without Superion to fight him, he will be undefeatable?

I originally thought that that was the cause of the "Oh," "My," "God,"
and everyone standing around with their mouths open. But it seemed
really anticlimactic, since Dev had been rampaging through the city for
half an issue already, and the prospect of further rampaging wouldn't be
that surprising. Moreover, the shocked humans had just gotten through
berating Prime after he saved their lives, so it's clear that they don't
understand the difference between 'Bot and 'Con. So why would they care
if Dev had happened to defeat Superion? Hell, that just means one less
giant to knock over buildings.

But someone's review in another thread mentioned the possibility that
Dev was just as stunned as everyone else, and there's some new character
or thing coming into view. Considering how big they've been drawing
him, I'm going to guess Omega Supreme. :)

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Ted Daniel

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Jul 19, 2002, 4:51:24 PM7/19/02
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"Jackpot" <i_do_not_read_an...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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As someone pointed out, it may be the "subspace" thing once again that
allows the gestaults to grow in size when in their combined mode. And think
about it, at least in Devestator's case, where do the upper arms and fist
come from if the Bonecrusher is seamingly just in bulldozer mode? Where
does the chestpiece come from? Gotta be subspace. Same deal with the
shrinking abilities of Soundwave, the cassettes, Megatron, etc.

> > so without Superion to fight him, he will be undefeatable?
>
> I originally thought that that was the cause of the "Oh," "My," "God,"
> and everyone standing around with their mouths open. But it seemed
> really anticlimactic, since Dev had been rampaging through the city for
> half an issue already, and the prospect of further rampaging wouldn't be
> that surprising. Moreover, the shocked humans had just gotten through
> berating Prime after he saved their lives, so it's clear that they don't
> understand the difference between 'Bot and 'Con. So why would they care
> if Dev had happened to defeat Superion? Hell, that just means one less
> giant to knock over buildings.
>
> But someone's review in another thread mentioned the possibility that
> Dev was just as stunned as everyone else, and there's some new character
> or thing coming into view. Considering how big they've been drawing
> him, I'm going to guess Omega Supreme. :)

Ah yes, I forgot about Omega (if he even exists in this strange continuity).
That would be cool, but shouldn't he be about the same size as Devastator?
And if so, where has he been for the rest of this series? He wasn't revived
by Prime in issue 2. Did he sorta "wake up" on his own? If he had been
revived by Lazarus, we would have probably already seen him in action.

My guess is that it isn't an Autobot, since the preview blurb about issue 5
says Prime is "left for dead" and the world is "on the brink of collapse".
It also says that the other Autobots are "battered and beaten". So it
sounds like the 'bots get their asses kicked by the 'cons.

Although the ending of this issue *is* strange in comparison to the others,
I really like the issue as a whole a lot better than the other ones. A lot
more action and we get to see some Transformer personality peek out. AND,
we get the "transformation sound" as Grimlock transforms.

My big question is... where are the season 2 TF's besides the 2 gestalts?


Brian Doyle

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Jul 19, 2002, 6:59:19 PM7/19/02
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"Ethan Hammond" <esha...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> I don't understand....
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> P
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> L
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> P
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> What is supposed to be going on with Devastator. It looks like he is holding
> Megatron or something. I don't understand at all. Anybody figure it out.
> Thanks.

It's an Aerialbot


Mark Brown

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Jul 19, 2002, 7:20:51 PM7/19/02
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"Ted Daniel" <tdan...@cox.net> wrote in message
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*SNIP*

> I think he's holding one of the Arialbots, so without Superion to fight
him,
> he will be undefeatable?

I was wondering why everyone looked so stunned.

You'd think they'd never seen a collosal green robot trashing a city before.

Mark
"Wow. There's something you don't see every day. Unless you're
~us.~" --Xander Harris


Sluder

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Jul 20, 2002, 7:16:38 PM7/20/02
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My guess is that it is the virus coming over the horizon. That's my $0.02.

Sluder, I may be close-minded, but I can afford to be. I'm always right ;)

"If you are loyal to EVERYbody, can you really be loyal to ANYbody" - Thrust

JBIK4D

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Jul 21, 2002, 2:47:23 AM7/21/02
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Everyone, including Devastator, is looking up at something...........

Mark Brown

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Jul 21, 2002, 7:08:11 PM7/21/02
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"JBIK4D" <jbi...@aol.com.net.org> wrote in message
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> Everyone, including Devastator, is looking up at something...........

Metroplex?
Fort Max?

Heck, maybe even Unicron.

Mark
"Or Powdered Toast Man coming to sue the Aerialbots for ripping off his
shtick."


Jackpot

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Jul 22, 2002, 12:00:48 AM7/22/02
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Ted Daniel wrote:

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>> But someone's review in another thread mentioned the possibility that
>> Dev was just as stunned as everyone else, and there's some new
>> character or thing coming into view. Considering how big they've
>> been drawing him, I'm going to guess Omega Supreme. :)
>
> Ah yes, I forgot about Omega (if he even exists in this strange
> continuity). That would be cool, but shouldn't he be about the same
> size as Devastator?

Not the way Pat makes 'im.

http://www.dreamwaveprod.ca/!thesite/IMGSgallery/covers/Trans1Auto.jpg

> And if so, where has he been for the rest of this
> series? He wasn't revived by Prime in issue 2. Did he sorta "wake
> up" on his own?

Considering that he IS a rocket, it seems weird that he would've been in
the Ark II with everyone else. I would guess he was already on Cybertron,
so he's been safe and sound this whole time, and if he's reappearing, then
it's as a reinforcement for Prime & co.

> Although the ending of this issue *is* strange in comparison to the
> others, I really like the issue as a whole a lot better than the other
> ones. A lot more action and we get to see some Transformer
> personality peek out. AND, we get the "transformation sound" as
> Grimlock transforms.

I was bored by the action, I thought there was very little personality due
to the extremely sparse dialogue (and what IS there doesn't always feel
right - the 'toon Trailbreaker always seemed too low-key and cheerful to
be as vengeful as his one line sounded), plus when it comes to the classic
G1 'toon transformation sound, I can take it or leave it.

- Jackpot (who thought he'd already seen the term "virus" mangled in
every way possible, but wow...)

Ka Faraq Gatri

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Jul 22, 2002, 6:24:11 AM7/22/02
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On 21 Jul 2002 06:47:23 GMT, jbi...@aol.com.net.org (JBIK4D) wrote:

>Everyone, including Devastator, is looking up at something...........

Prime:It's a gigantic . . .
Megatron: maid . . .
Sideswipe: with a vacuum cleaner!

Dark Helmet: Commence operation "Vacu-suck!"


Dave Connell aka Ka Faraq Gatri
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Pandora

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Jul 23, 2002, 12:30:52 AM7/23/02
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Possibilities:

1) Something to do with Spike
2) Human Military brought something nasty out again
3) One of the large City Robots

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