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Target has Cybertron cartoon DVD Complete series for $36.99. Cheaper price than bestbuy.

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Victoryleo

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Jul 23, 2008, 9:25:04 PM7/23/08
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Target has Cybertron cartoon DVD Complete series for $36.99. Cheaper
price than bestbuy.

I went to Target & bought the DVD complete cybertron series for only
$36.99 today.

Before anyone starts rambling,there's 52 episodes in the ultimate DVD
collection. 1144 minutes,7 DVD disk total.

I haven't checked to see what extra's are on the set.

Just a heads up to all of you,to save $4 bucks at target compared to
Bestbuy.

Gustavo Wombat

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Jul 23, 2008, 10:08:01 PM7/23/08
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Amazon has it for $39.95, and you don't have to spend time or gas in
the process. Depending on where you live, you might not even have
sales tax, because of the idiotic policy of out of state companies not
collecting sales tax (effectively meaning that Amazon is subsidized by
the loss of revenues to your local and state government).

Gustavo!

Chad Rushing

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Jul 23, 2008, 10:22:24 PM7/23/08
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On Jul 23, 9:08 pm, Gustavo Wombat <GustavoWom...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Amazon has it for $39.95, and you don't have to spend time or gas in
> the process. Depending on where you live, you might not even have
> sales tax, because of the idiotic policy of out of state companies not
> collecting sales tax (effectively meaning that Amazon is subsidized by
> the loss of revenues to your local and state government).

Any break we can get from the onerous tax burden placed on us by all
levels of government is a welcome one.

- Chad

Chad Rushing

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Jul 23, 2008, 10:24:09 PM7/23/08
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On Jul 23, 8:25 pm, Victoryleo <Victoryl...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Just a heads up to all of you,to save $4 bucks at target compared to
> Bestbuy.

Yeah, I bought it at Best Buy first before finding it at Target. All
the ones they had at Target had the boxes bent up, so I figured it was
not worth saving four bucks to return the pristine set I had already
purchased elsewhere.

- Chad

Victoryleo

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Jul 23, 2008, 10:37:50 PM7/23/08
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Gustavo wrote: "and you don't have to spend time or gas in the
process."

Most of my toy hunts revolves around my travels back n forth to work n
home. so there's no out of the way hunts for me.

ANYWAYS,If you buy on-line from lets say Amazon.com,most of us use our
credit card. don't credit cards charge interest rates. then there's
the SHIPPING FEES. I think it's in everyones best interest to pay
using cash & visit your local target store.

FortMax

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Jul 23, 2008, 10:41:31 PM7/23/08
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You only pay interest on credit cards if you don't pay off your full
balance every month. Also, a lot of people use Debit cards, which simply
draw money from your checking account.
--
FortMax's Transformers Instruction Archive
http://fortmax05.10gbfreehost.com/

Chad Rushing

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Jul 24, 2008, 12:25:14 AM7/24/08
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On Jul 23, 9:37 pm, Victoryleo <Victoryl...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> ANYWAYS,If you buy on-line from lets say Amazon.com,most of us use
> our credit card. don't credit cards charge interest rates. then there's
> the SHIPPING FEES. I think it's in everyones best interest to pay
> using cash & visit your local target store.

For what it is worth, Amazon will not charge shipping on any DVD
purchase over $25 if you select Super Saver Shipping (or something
like that). I help my sister (who is now getting Internet-acquainted)
order old TV shows from Amazon with free shipping all the time. The
only drawback is that the packaging for the box sets sometimes gets
pretty bent up in transit.

Still, I am glad that you were able to readily find a copy at your
local Target and were satisfied with your purchase. That is all that
really matters.

- Chad

Gustavo Wombat

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Jul 24, 2008, 2:57:05 AM7/24/08
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Of course, this "break we can get from the onerous tax burden placed
on us by all levels of government" ends up being an effective subsidy
for internet based companies at the expense of the brick and mortar
companies employing people in your neighborhood.

So, you use a loss in local tax revenues to encourage local consumers
to purchase items out of state, encouraging job growth out of state.

And, the local governments will just raise taxes to cover this
increasing loss of revenue, so the local tax payers don't really
benefit. You specifically may benefit, if you spend more of your
income than average on stuff from the internet (and don't own a more
expensive than average house), but the average tax payer will do
poorly.

The only people who do benefit are companies like Amazon, which try to
limit their physical presence to one state to take advantage of this
loophole.

If Amazon provides a better perceived total value than the Best Buy
across town, Amazon will do well, otherwise, it deserves to fail. But,
Amazon doesn't really need to be subsidized by your local governments.

Not that I have some kind of personal grudge against Amazon or
anything. When I hear people in Seattle complaining that Amazon is
putting local bookstores out of business, I remind them that Amazon is
our local bookstore. That always shuts them up.

Actually, now that I think about it, my taxes are lower because of the
jobs created locally by Amazon loophole, at the expense of the local
tax revenues of the rest of the country... Sounds good to me.

Gustavo!

Gustavo Wombat

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Jul 24, 2008, 3:04:43 AM7/24/08
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On Jul 23, 7:41 pm, FortMax <fortressmaximu...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Victoryleo wrote:
> > Gustavo wrote: "and you don't have to spend time or gas in the
> > process."
>
> > Most of my toy hunts revolves around my travels back n forth to work n
> > home. so there's no out of the way hunts for me.
>
> > ANYWAYS,If you buy on-line from lets say Amazon.com,most of us use our
> > credit card. don't credit cards charge interest rates. then there's
> > the SHIPPING FEES. I think it's in everyones best interest to pay
> > using cash & visit your local target store.
>
> You only pay interest on credit cards if you don't pay off your full
> balance every month. Also, a lot of people use Debit cards, which simply
> draw money from your checking account.

Ok, here's the short version of my rant: NEVER USE A DEBT CARD! DON'T
EVEN GET ONE!

They draw money directly from your bank account. If your card is ever
stolen, your bank account can be cleared out pretty quickly. You will
likely only be liable for $50, because the debit card is run by Visa,
but while you resolve all of this, you cannot pay rent, etc. Resolving
it can take time (what company wants to give you money now when they
are not legally obligated to do so until later?)

Don't keep much money in that account? It isn't liked to your other
accounts by overdraft protection is it? Or an automatic overdraft
loan? Lots of ways to get screwed.

When a credit card gets stolen, it's not your money that vanishes.
You're still liable for the same $50, but you can pay rent in the
meantime.

Let the Visa shoulder the risk. Your bank will "happily" give you a
plain old ATM card with none of the "advantages" of a debit card if
you ask, and you can usually get a credit card with no yearly fees.

Gustavo!

Gustavo Wombat

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Jul 24, 2008, 3:06:01 AM7/24/08
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On Jul 23, 9:25 pm, Chad Rushing <notu...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jul 23, 9:37 pm, Victoryleo <Victoryl...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > ANYWAYS,If you buy on-line from lets say Amazon.com,most of us use
> > our credit card. don't credit cards charge interest rates. then there's
> > the SHIPPING FEES. I think it's in everyones best interest to pay
> > using cash & visit your local target store.
>
> For what it is worth, Amazon will not charge shipping on any DVD
> purchase over $25 if you select Super Saver Shipping (or something
> like that).  I help my sister (who is now getting Internet-acquainted)
> order old TV shows from Amazon with free shipping all the time.  The
> only drawback is that the packaging for the box sets sometimes gets
> pretty bent up in transit.

Also, Amazon can take forever and a day to send things out Super Saver
Shipping. So you lose a bit of the immediate gratification.

Gustavo!

Chad Rushing

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Jul 24, 2008, 10:04:08 AM7/24/08
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On Jul 24, 2:06 am, Gustavo Wombat <GustavoWom...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Also, Amazon can take forever and a day to send things out Super Saver
> Shipping. So you lose a bit of the immediate gratification.

You are correct in that having to wait longer for your DVDs is the
trade-off involved for receiving free shipping.

- Chad

Grebo

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Jul 24, 2008, 10:08:53 AM7/24/08
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Arf arf!

The usually zippy Chad Rushing <notu...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Any break we can get from the onerous tax burden placed on us by all
> levels of government is a welcome one.

(rolls eyes)

Drink right-wing Kool-Aid much?

See, that's the thing about the current Republican party. Really, the
entire unifying concept behind the party these days seems to be solely
about lowering taxes. That's it! No morals, no ideals, just "save me
money!" It's selfish and unrealistic.

Government should be about "We're all in this together." The right
wing wants the situation to be "Every man for himself" and "Winner
takes all." Charming.

Want to abolish taxes? (In other words, abolish the government?)
Great, who's gonna maintain the roads? And the military? And hell,
enforce the law?

Yikes. I went on a rant.

Grebo

Chad Rushing

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Jul 24, 2008, 1:26:49 PM7/24/08
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On Jul 24, 9:08 am, Grebo <grebog...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Any break we can get from the onerous tax burden placed on us by all
> > levels of government is a welcome one.
>
> (rolls eyes)
>
> Drink right-wing Kool-Aid much?

Such a comment is only meant to marginalize the person to whom it is
referring and does not contribute anything productive to the
discussion. If anything, it reflects negatively on its author.

> See, that's the thing about the current Republican party. Really, the
> entire unifying concept behind the party these days seems to be solely
> about lowering taxes. That's it! No morals, no ideals, just "save me
> money!" It's selfish and unrealistic.

Nothing was said about the Republican party, so I am not sure how that
came up. In actuality, political parties in general are very
disappointing to me.

> Government should be about "We're all in this together." The right
> wing wants the situation to be "Every man for himself" and "Winner
> takes all." Charming.

The current government has the ability to make anyone (even innocents)
do anything it wants through the use of asset seizure, financial
devastation, imprisonment, and lethal force with little or no -real-
accountability (other than on paper) to the people governed, and it
exercises those methods on a fairly regular basis:

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire,
it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." -- George
Washington

In my opinion, that hardly qualifies as the proper medium for people -
voluntarily- working together in brotherly -love- to make the world a
better place (which I consider to be a very noble goal).

Private organizations such as the Red Cross, the Salvation Army,
Amnesty International, the World Wildlife Fund, the United Way, the
March of Dimes, Habitat for Humanity, Ronald McDonald House, and many,
many others do far more to effectively address society's problems than
any government program ever has.

> Want to abolish taxes? (In other words, abolish the government?)
> Great, who's gonna maintain the roads? And the military? And hell,
> enforce the law?

I never said anything about abolishing taxes or the government in
general; it has its proper, limited role in society (i.e., protecting
life, liberty, and property). I just said that our tax burden was
onerous (i.e., excessive) which it undoubtedly is.

You get taxed on your paycheck; the money is withheld before you can
even touch it. You get taxed on your purchases and rentals. You get
taxed on your utility bills. You get taxed on your telecommunications
usage. You get taxed on inheritances from your deceased loved ones.
You get taxed on your investments and savings. You get taxed on the
house in which you reside. You get taxed on prizes you fortuitously
win. Technically speaking, you are even supposed to be taxed on
bartered items (ex. trading your friend your G1 Jetfire for his G1
Trypticon). And new taxes are always being considered every day (ex.
per e-mail tax, currency conversion tax, etc.).

Heck, a bill passed the House of Representatives just in the past week
that would require every single credit card transaction in the
country(!) to be reported to the IRS in the interest of collecting
more taxes. So much for financial privacy ...

Even then, it is still never enough, and every level of government
runs huge deficits with little to no fiscal restraint, passing the
IOUs on to later generations who had no say in the original
expenditures. Furthermore, tweaks are constantly made to the
voluminous, nigh unfathomable tax code to either reward or punish
special interest groups or various voting blocs, political
manipulation at its lowest.

At least, that is how things work here in America; I would not be
surprised if that was the case in other countries, too.

> Yikes. I went on a rant.

Yes, you did, and I suppose I responded with a "rant" of my own.
However, that is OK because I believe that having strong convictions
one is willing to voice in a public forum (vs. being apathethic) is
generally a sign of character.

- Chad

Gustavo Wombat

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Jul 24, 2008, 1:37:16 PM7/24/08
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On Jul 24, 7:08 am, Grebo <grebog...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Arf arf!
>
> The usually zippy Chad Rushing <notu...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Any break we can get from the onerous tax burden placed on us by all
> > levels of government is a welcome one.
>
> (rolls eyes)
>
> Drink right-wing Kool-Aid much?

I just assume that Chad is joking. He's probably not, but I prefer the
snarky faux right wing Chad character to the actual libertarian
leaning Chad. It's just an issue of how heavily to weight author
intent, and becomes an exercise in interpretation, just like the the
Decepticonistas.

> See, that's the thing about the current Republican party. Really, the
> entire unifying concept behind the party these days seems to be solely
> about lowering taxes. That's it! No morals, no ideals, just "save me
> money!" It's selfish and unrealistic.
>
> Government should be about "We're all in this together." The right
> wing wants the situation to be "Every man for himself" and "Winner
> takes all." Charming.
>
> Want to abolish taxes? (In other words, abolish the government?)
> Great, who's gonna maintain the roads? And the military? And hell,
> enforce the law?
>
> Yikes. I went on a rant.

You want a rant... no, will not take bait... the deciding issue in the
last two presidential campaigns was "who would you rather have a beer
with". And the American people chose the guy who's a recovering
alcoholic.

Anyway, the right wing isn't just about lowering taxes, it's about the
belief that the government simply cannot do things as well as private
enterprise. And, when the right wing gets power, they demonstrate this
by putting a horse lawyer in charge of FEMA. Why on earth would you
expect better government from people who think that government is a
problem?

In the end, through years of incompetent governance, people begin to
assume that government really can't do anything well. And so,
elections become not about what government can do, but about flag pins
and who would you rather have a beer with.


Gustavo!

Chad Rushing

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Jul 24, 2008, 2:04:18 PM7/24/08
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On Jul 24, 12:37 pm, Gustavo Wombat <GustavoWom...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I just assume that Chad is joking.

Well, I originally meant my comment as a half-joke; however, since I
was challenged on it, I responded in a serious manner.

> He's probably not, but I prefer the
> snarky faux right wing Chad character to the actual libertarian
> leaning Chad. It's just an issue of how heavily to weight author
> intent, and becomes an exercise in interpretation, just like the the
> Decepticonistas.

My apologies for disappointing you, but the -real- right-wing Chad of
the past few decades has morphed into the libertarian-leaning Chad
during this past election cycle. However, "libertarian" is a very
vague term these days, so let us just say that I believe there is a
proper role for government, but it is very limited in scope.

> You want a rant... no, will not take bait... the deciding issue in the
> last two presidential campaigns was "who would you rather have a beer
> with". And the American people chose the guy who's a recovering
> alcoholic.

Ha, I had a friend who picked Bill Clinton over George Bush, Sr. years
ago because she thought the former was better looking.

> Anyway, the right wing isn't just about lowering taxes, it's about the
> belief that the government simply cannot do things as well as private
> enterprise. And, when the right wing gets power, they demonstrate this
> by putting a horse lawyer in charge of FEMA. Why on earth would you
> expect better government from people who think that government is a
> problem?

I have as little faith these days in the right-wing as I do the left-
wing. If our government was more streamlined like a rocket, then we
would not need any "wings" at all, and everybody could stop fighting
over which "wing" is directing its path. ;-)

> In the end, through years of incompetent governance, people begin to
> assume that government really can't do anything well. And so,
> elections become not about what government can do, but about flag pins
> and who would you rather have a beer with.

Don't forget about which candidate's pastor said what in church, which
candidate looks more "presidential," and how much melanin the
candidate has in his/her skin. The level of political discourse in
this country is fairly low.

- Chad

Onslaught Six

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On Jul 24, 3:04 am, Gustavo Wombat <GustavoWom...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Ok, here's the short version of my rant: NEVER USE A DEBT CARD! DON'T
> EVEN GET ONE!

Okay, wow, this sounds like it's pretty important.

> They draw money directly from your bank account. If your card is ever
> stolen, your bank account can be cleared out pretty quickly.

Oh.

I provide the simple, idealist argument: I won't let it get stolen.

Mostly because it's in my jacket, and I always have my jacket. The
only time I do not have my jacket is when I am at home, and if I can't
trust my own family to not steal my shit, well.

By "have my jacket" I mean "Am wearing my jacket." Which I always do.
Even at work. Except when my aunt-slash-boss is running about. Because
if she catches me with it on again, I'm apparently getting shitcanned.
Which is bogus, it's like 65 degrees in here! In July! What the hell!

Gustavo Wombat

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Jul 24, 2008, 3:59:56 PM7/24/08
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The physical card doesn't need to get stolen, just the number.

Do you use the Debit card? Do you trust every person who has come into
contact with the number when you make a purchase? Do you trust
companies to either not hold onto the number, or keep it secure?

Frankly, I don't. I've worked for companies that handle credit card
numbers, and I've seen the security vulnerabilities. The surprise
isn't that credit and debit card numbers get stolen, it's that they
don't get stolen as often as they do.

Gustavo!

Not_Available321

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Jul 24, 2008, 5:05:40 PM7/24/08
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On Jul 24, 2:57 am, Gustavo Wombat <GustavoWom...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Actually, now that I think about it, my taxes are lower because of the
> jobs created locally by Amazon loophole, at the expense of the local
> tax revenues of the rest of the country... Sounds good to me.

You son-of-a-bitch! I just knew Seattle was the seed of evil all
along...

Trolly McBeam

Chad Rushing

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On Jul 24, 2:28 pm, Onslaught Six <Onslaught...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Mostly because it's in my jacket, and I always have my jacket. The
> only time I do not have my jacket is when I am at home, and if I can't
> trust my own family to not steal my shit, well.

I can see Onslaught Six now, cautiously eyeing everyone around the
dinner table while drawing his jacket tightly around him. j/k

- Chad

Chad Rushing

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On Jul 24, 4:05 pm, Not_Available321 <not_available...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
> You son-of-a-bitch! I just knew Seattle was the seed of evil all
> along...

I heard it rains there a lot; that sounds pretty ominous to me ...

- Chad

Gustavo Wombat

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Do you want to know the truly evil bit? It doesn't really rain much,
except for the winter. It's all a story put out by the people of
Seattle to keep everyone else away. And when it does rain? Drizzle.
Usually in the morning and that's it.

Gustavo!

Shin Hibiki

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Jul 24, 2008, 8:39:34 PM7/24/08
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Gustavo Wombat <Gustav...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Ok, here's the short version of my rant: NEVER USE A DEBT CARD! DON'T
>EVEN GET ONE!

Also: Do not link your bank account to PayHell. Better yet,
do not use PayHell. I have a wretched personal story to tell about
that soon--I just have to work up to it. (How I'm going to pay for
auctions after axing my PayHell account, however, I don't yet know.)
For now, I'll just roll out my new sig. Please check it out and
protect yourself.

- Shin Hibiki

-====-
Don't let yourself get ripped off. It *can* happen to
you, even if you're careful. Learn more:
http://www.paypalsucks.com

Shin Hibiki

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Jul 24, 2008, 8:50:51 PM7/24/08
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Gustavo Wombat <Gustav...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Frankly, I don't. I've worked for companies that handle credit card
>numbers, and I've seen the security vulnerabilities. The surprise
>isn't that credit and debit card numbers get stolen, it's that they
>don't get stolen as often as they do.

Gustavo knows what he's talking about. Hear him out... take
it seriously...

Shin Hibiki

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Jul 24, 2008, 8:55:52 PM7/24/08
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Gustavo Wombat <Gustav...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Do you want to know the truly evil bit? It doesn't really rain much,
>except for the winter. It's all a story put out by the people of
>Seattle to keep everyone else away. And when it does rain? Drizzle.
>Usually in the morning and that's it.

I hear it's really dark and gray all the time, though
(according to somebody I work with who actually lived there). True?

Chad Rushing

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Jul 24, 2008, 8:58:41 PM7/24/08
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On Jul 24, 7:39 pm, Shin Hibiki <shin_hib...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Also: Do not link your bank account to PayHell. Better yet,
> do not use PayHell.

You really do not have much of a choice if you want to sell anything
on eBay. In fact, I think that eBay might -require- all sellers to
accept any form of PayPal payment now from buyers.

> I have a wretched personal story to tell about
> that soon--I just have to work up to it. (How I'm going to pay for
> auctions after axing my PayHell account, however, I don't yet know.)
> For now, I'll just roll out my new sig. Please check it out and
> protect yourself.

For what it is worth, I never keep a balance on my PayPal account
because I have read horror stories of a buyer filing a complaint, and
PayPal locking -all- the funds in the account, not just the amount the
buyer paid. That hardly seems to be a fair business practice.

- Chad

Gustavo Wombat

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Jul 25, 2008, 12:16:36 AM7/25/08
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On Jul 24, 5:55 pm, Shin Hibiki <shin_hib...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Gustavo Wombat <GustavoWom...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Do you want to know the truly evil bit? It doesn't really rain much,
> >except for the winter. It's all a story put out by the people of
> >Seattle to keep everyone else away. And when it does rain? Drizzle.
> >Usually in the morning and that's it.
>
>         I hear it's really dark and gray all the time, though
> (according to somebody I work with who actually lived there).  True?

Winters are dark. It's pretty far north, so it gets dark very early,
around 4pm at times. And it usually overcast from late October to
March. There will be two days of snow, and maybe a week of highs in
the 30's. So, most of the winter, it is dark, gray, and a bit chilly,
with a frequent drizzle. Most parts of the US call this weather
"Fall".

You don't get the bright sunny winter days with light reflecting off
the snow and all... It can get a little depressing.

Gustavo!

Chad Rushing

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Jul 25, 2008, 3:38:20 PM7/25/08
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On Jul 24, 6:58 pm, Gustavo Wombat <GustavoWom...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Do you want to know the truly evil bit? It doesn't really rain much,
> except for the winter. It's all a story put out by the people of
> Seattle to keep everyone else away. And when it does rain? Drizzle.
> Usually in the morning and that's it.

I would not be surprised if the anti-Seattle and anti-Decepticon
propagandists were actually in cahoots. Who can you believe anymore?

- Chad

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