[ZMFTS] More Stuff from Zob's Workshop
Zobovor
free to praise, condemn, or perhaps more mercilessly, completely ignore
this stuff. (Of course, if you're nice to me now, your chances
increase exponentially of me actually considering lending you money
when I become rich and famous. Just a thought.)
In the event that I've mistyped some of the links below, know that all
my recent projects can be accessed from the ZMFTS home page:
http://members.aol.com/zmfts/index.html
Also, I've made it a practice lately to put the HTML files and images
from each update together in a .zip file in the event that your
Fortunecity browsing experience is less than ideal. If you'd rather
not visit the individual pages, you can download the entire update in
one big batch right here:
http://members.aol.com/zmfts/zmfts.zip
And for those of you brave enough to visit Fortunecity itself, let's
look at the projects one at a time, shall we?
First off, I recently painted the Unicron figure from the Titanium
Series into a preproduction version of the character called "The
Entity." (It's also worth mentioning that I resculpted his hand since
I didn't really like the micro-sized Cybertron he was grappling.)
http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_entity_custom.html
Also, I came up with two separate Arcee projects. One of them is a
representation of what the character *might* have looked like if her
cartoon design more closely matched the toy prototype that Takara came
up with back in 1986. The other was made out of the Chromedome PVC
figure, customized to make it more feminine and representing a piece of
Takara concept art for a Headmaster Arcee toy. (Also, there may
possibly be a soo-prize hidden on one of these pages.)
http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_arcee_takara_prototype_custom.html
http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_arcee_headmaster_concept_custom.html
I'm still working on the many generic Decepticons who appeared in the
early G1 episodes. My latest one is the greenish-blue background
character whom Derik Smith has christened Seafoam. (I've liberally
dismissed some of the names he coined when I felt they were too silly,
but I love the name Seafoam.)
http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_seafoam_repaint.html
Seafoam also served double-duty while the repaint was in a state of
mid-completion, since I noticed an uncanny resemblance to
Thundercracker's marker in the Decepticon crypt, as seen in the cartoon
episode "Starscream's Ghost," and so I threw together a page to reflect
this:
http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_thundercracker_decepticon_crypt_marker_repaint.html
Finally, and this is my very favorite project from this batch, I
repainted the Grimlock PVC figure into a generic background Dinobot
appearing in "Thief in the Night." He only appears in one scene, but
his hideously-garish color scheme was too delicious not to use. I call
him Sweep, since that's the name of one of the Dinobots given in "Call
of the Primitives."
http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_sweep_repaint.html
That's all I've got. There are other things I've been working on here
and there, but now that my wife and I are working the same schedule
(finally), I expect I'll be spending lots more time with her after work
and much less time puttering around in the art room waiting for her to
get home. :)
Thanks for reading!
Zob
Derik 'Inessi' Smith
> First off, I recently painted the Unicron figure from the Titanium
> Series into a preproduction version of the character called "The
> Entity." (It's also worth mentioning that I resculpted his hand since
> I didn't really like the micro-sized Cybertron he was grappling.)
>
> http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_entity_custom.html
Ingestor, surely.
> Also, I came up with two separate Arcee projects. One of them is a
> representation of what the character *might* have looked like if her
> cartoon design more closely matched the toy prototype that Takara came
> up with back in 1986. The other was made out of the Chromedome PVC
> figure, customized to make it more feminine and representing a piece of
> Takara concept art for a Headmaster Arcee toy. (Also, there may
> possibly be a soo-prize hidden on one of these pages.)
>
>
> http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_arcee_takara_prototype_custom.html
That looks... surprisingly non-suck.
Also, ooh.... that's the first decent pic of the Takara proto I've ever
seen!
> Seafoam also served double-duty while the repaint was in a state of
> mid-completion, since I noticed an uncanny resemblance to
> Thundercracker's marker in the Decepticon crypt, as seen in the cartoon
> episode "Starscream's Ghost," and so I threw together a page to reflect
> this:
>
>http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_thundercracker_decepticon_crypt_marker_repaint.html
See, I always just assumed this meant they hadn't finished putting
starscream's marker together, forgotten even in death.
> Finally, and this is my very favorite project from this batch, I
> repainted the Grimlock PVC figure into a generic background Dinobot
> appearing in "Thief in the Night." He only appears in one scene, but
> his hideously-garish color scheme was too delicious not to use. I call
> him Sweep, since that's the name of one of the Dinobots given in "Call
> of the Primitives."
>
> http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_sweep_repaint.html
That's... beautiful. the colors WORK. (Or at least- they ALMOST
work.)
Of course, he's also Grimlock, but we won't get into that.
(Are we gonna get a black Dirge too?)
-Derik
David Willis
"Zobovor" <zm...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1161578253.0...@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Also, I came up with two separate Arcee projects. One of them is a
> representation of what the character *might* have looked like if her
> cartoon design more closely matched the toy prototype that Takara came
> up with back in 1986. The other was made out of the Chromedome PVC
> figure, customized to make it more feminine and representing a piece of
> Takara concept art for a Headmaster Arcee toy. (Also, there may
> possibly be a soo-prize hidden on one of these pages.)
>
>
> http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_arcee_takara_prototype_custom.html
>
> http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_arcee_headmaster_concept_custom.html
I love that color scheme.
http://pics.livejournal.com/shortpacked/pic/0005gf75/g1
--David
http://transformers.wikia.com
www.shortpacked.com
Onslau...@gmail.com
Zobovor wrote:
> Here are the latest additions to the ever-growing ZMFTS toy line. Feel
> free to praise, condemn, or perhaps more mercilessly, completely ignore
> this stuff. (Of course, if you're nice to me now, your chances
> increase exponentially of me actually considering lending you money
> when I become rich and famous. Just a thought.)
I know it's not in this update (I think?) but I'm just gonna take the
time to say that your Shredder project is absoloutely 'sick.' I've
always liked seeing your kitbashes in general, especially your non-TF
stuff, mainly because it covers a wide variety of subjects that I also
happen to like. (You're probably the only person in the world, other
than myself, who's dreampt of Final Fantasy 4 figures. Speaking of, I'd
kinda like to see some new pics of them at some point, out of interest.
>.>)
But yeah. Shredder 'rules.' Like yourself, I always expressed great
dislike for Shredder's original toy and never got a suitable
representation of him for my various misc. action figure legions that
now hide away in various boxes on the other side of my room, and it's
'so' cool to see the figure used so 'well' and redone like that. For
that much, I'll applaud you.
And, what the hell, I'll also take this moment to say that, at least,
'I' have always enjoyed seeing your PVC repaints. Comics Starscream and
all the various Seekers and the like. AM Screamer was a brilliant
piece, too, and once again I'm kind of amazed by his colour scheme
similarity not just to the aformentioned ComicScream but also to
Masterpiece Starscream's oddball colour scheme. (Speaking of, a PVC in
MasterScream's colours would be a nifty project, I think.)
The diecast altmodes, I dunno--not 'too' interested in those,
particularly, but that's because the attraction to TF has always been
the robot modes rather than their altmodes, for me. (Seriously, there's
probably quite a few TFs in recent years whose vehicle modes I've never
seen again after the first transformation.) But that's just personal
taste, and I'm at least glad that they exist for me to ignore them, if
nothing else. :P
> First off, I recently painted the Unicron figure from the Titanium
> Series into a preproduction version of the character called "The
> Entity." (It's also worth mentioning that I resculpted his hand since
> I didn't really like the micro-sized Cybertron he was grappling.)
>
> http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_entity_custom.html
Hrmm. I don't much like TitCron, see--or the 3" Titaniums line in
general, after seeing them in person on store pegs--I just think he
kinda looks a little bit on the ugly side and is in a pretty ridiculous
pose for my tastes. While your repaint doesn't do much to make me want
the figure in general (although I suspect it'd take something very
impressive to do that task) the repaint job is awesome and very
faithful to Unicron's design and colours in that sketch.
They're also very, very ugly and disgusting colours, but nontheless,
that's a comment about the colour scheme itself and not your job. :P
(Curiously enough, I never noticed how Unicron's breastplates overlap
his shoulders as such in that outdated model sheet before.
Interesting.)
> Also, I came up with two separate Arcee projects. One of them is a
> representation of what the character *might* have looked like if her
> cartoon design more closely matched the toy prototype that Takara came
> up with back in 1986. The other was made out of the Chromedome PVC
> figure, customized to make it more feminine and representing a piece of
> Takara concept art for a Headmaster Arcee toy. (Also, there may
> possibly be a soo-prize hidden on one of these pages.)
> http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_arcee_takara_prototype_custom.html
I'd actually start by addressing the bit about Marvel apparently never
getting the updated designs--I'd say it's highly likely that at some
point, they did, but they'd already been using the old designs for so
long (due to the length of time it takes to produce a comic, they
probably started when those designs were current) that they thought it
wiser to keep using them than switch to new ones with no explaination
(especially, for example, the change in Galvatron's colouring, or other
such oddities.)
The orange is quite interesting, and I'd almost like to see that used
in an official colouring of Arcee at some point. This could be the
perverted female character aesthetic that's in my head, also, but the
red stripes on her mid-thighs remind me of the tops of nylon stockings,
which is, I have to say, an interesting aesthetic design, if nothing
else.
Dear God is that proto fugly. I hope that if the actual figure had
gotten further in production, it would look a lot better like that.
Like, say, an actual movie toy. >.>
In truth, that reversed-shoulder thing has always got me, too--I was
never quite sure what the hell everybody meant by that. Seeing the
original PVC up against this one really clears that up. >.>
> http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_arcee_headmaster_concept_custom.html
Commence jokes about Daniel receiving [a] head from Arcee!
I swear that I've already seen this PVC done somewhere else,
though--Without the reposing, I'm sure, but I 'swear' I've seen the
concept explored before in a PVC. And I *know* I've seen a Minverva PVC
repainted as Nightbeat (and yes, it looks about as girly as you said it
did) somewhere else. I could be thinking of M Sipher's repaints, or
someone else's.
> I'm still working on the many generic Decepticons who appeared in the
> early G1 episodes. My latest one is the greenish-blue background
> character whom Derik Smith has christened Seafoam. (I've liberally
> dismissed some of the names he coined when I felt they were too silly,
> but I love the name Seafoam.)
>
> http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_seafoam_repaint.html
I love generic Seekers. 'Love' them. If it was cost-effective for both
parties, I would own Classics Starscream's mould as every single
generic Seeker ever.
Seafoam's a good repaint. I don't like his colour scheme as much as
some other generics, but he's a nice filler jet. The idea of an
underwater jet is an...interesting one, and the techspec kinda makes me
want a regular old toy of him that 'isn't' a jet, because it makes no
sense. >.> The rust thing is good and funny, reminds me of the ironic
character I came up with for Cybertron's Backstop (He's a kung-fu
master...but nobody believes him, because he can't actually 'do' any
moves because of his poorly-articulated body. Oh, the irony!) Calling
his weapons Depth Charges amuses me on a level that only later TF names
can, because I picture him firing giant Transmetal fishes from his
launchers. >.>
> Seafoam also served double-duty while the repaint was in a state of
> mid-completion, since I noticed an uncanny resemblance to
> Thundercracker's marker in the Decepticon crypt, as seen in the cartoon
> episode "Starscream's Ghost," and so I threw together a page to reflect
> this:
> http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_thundercracker_decepticon_crypt_marker_repaint.html
Heheheh. This one's pretty funny and cool, in an oddball sorta way.
Kinda like the electrum-coated Starscream PVC, or having PVCs of Prime
with the super armour from RoOP or Rodimus in all red as infected by
the Hate Plague.
> Finally, and this is my very favorite project from this batch, I
> repainted the Grimlock PVC figure into a generic background Dinobot
> appearing in "Thief in the Night." He only appears in one scene, but
> his hideously-garish color scheme was too delicious not to use. I call
> him Sweep, since that's the name of one of the Dinobots given in "Call
> of the Primitives."
>
> http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_sweep_repaint.html
Though I don't much like the colourscheme itself of ol' Sweep here, I'm
'greatly' intrigued by your choice to make him an allosaurus, and by
his general character--A Dinobot so savage and ruthless that he creeps
the 'rest' of them out? That's an idea almost good enough to use for
T-Wrecks, if I hadn't already spent years developing a character for
him based on the idea of his face being scarred to all hell (which is
the reason he's wearing the mutant helmet all the time, of course.)
Still, there's Dinotron, since I've got nothing for him, and I suppose
it'd work pretty well for TMII Dinobot's repaint, Rapticon, as well.
> That's all I've got. There are other things I've been working on here
> and there, but now that my wife and I are working the same schedule
> (finally), I expect I'll be spending lots more time with her after work
> and much less time puttering around in the art room waiting for her to
> get home. :)
When did you get married again? This is news to me, seriously. >.>
Apparently, I need to keep up better with the lives of people I don't
actually know.
Derik 'Inessi' Smith
> Though I don't much like the colourscheme itself of ol' Sweep here, I'm
> 'greatly' intrigued by your choice to make him an allosaurus
Ehh, doign with Sludge being an acual Brontosaur, I say he should have
been a Manospondylus Gigas.
-Derik
crazysteve
> free to praise, condemn, or perhaps more mercilessly, completely ignore
> this stuff.
After that intro how can I not look at this stuff? Honestly, I
personally find repainting HoC/SCF figures boring and overdone so I was
going to overlook this thread. I find your scratchbuilds and die cast
works infinitely more interesting. That is just my opinion and to put
it in perspective, after Botcon I find I'm somewhat of a dinosaur in
the kitbashing/repainting fandom. I've officially totally lost touch
with what everyone thinks is cool. So who am I to judge.
> (Of course, if you're nice to me now, your chances
> increase exponentially of me actually considering lending you money
> when I become rich and famous. Just a thought.)
Here's where I lose out on all those borrowed millions.
Re: The Entity:
> "And yes, just so we're all on the same page, this isn't a PVC figure at all, but one of the
> beautiful Titanium Series figures by Galoob"
Here's a point at which we differ philosphically. I think the 3 inch
Titaniums are horribly misproportioned, terribly posed, and sculpted by
someone with little to no knowledge of the established character models
(Starscream with a gun?) I would never call them beautiful but that's
just me. Unicron's arms are about twice as big as they should be. As
for your repaint-nice job on the hand resculpt.
> It's the same size as the Heroes of Cybertron repaints I've done, though, so that's how I'm
> categorizing this project.
The Titaniums aren't really the same size as the HoC figures are
they? I consider the two lines entirely seperate. They differ in so
many ways. One has fantastic sculpting at a nice scale faithful to the
characters they represent and the other is the Titanium 3 inch line.
> Construction: I really like the sculpt on this figure.
Aaack! This is so weird for me to be disagreeing with you. Up until
now I've been able to understand where you're coming from but I'm just
surprised you like these figures so much. All that aside, and in the
interest of being positive, I will say I love how well you paint.
--
crazysteve with rubber tires
G.B. Blackrock
G.B. Blackrock
Zobovor
On Oct 22, 11:00 pm, "Derik 'Inessi' Smith" <ReGenes...@aol.com> wrote:
>>http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_arcee_takara_prototype_custom.html
>
>That looks... surprisingly non-suck.
I'm actually kind of surprised at how well it turned out. Glad you
liked it.
[Re: the missing upper half of Starscream's marker]
>See, I always just assumed this meant they hadn't finished putting
>Starscream's marker together, forgotten even in death.
You'd think that they would have just done one marker for the
Decepticon jets and added a plaque below it that said
"Thundercracker/Starscream/Skywarp/etc." I mean, it's not like anybody
could tell the difference...
> >http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_sweep_repaint.html
>That's... beautiful. the colors WORK. (Or at least- they ALMOST
> work.)
I could probably have added some more color to him just to make him
more visually interesting, but I really wanted to stay true to the
color scheme as seen in the episode. (Now, of course, I wish I had a
spare G1 Grimlock laying around because I really, really want a
transforming version of this guy.)
> Of course, he's also Grimlock, but we won't get into that.
Thank you for allowing me my delusions. (The way I look at it, it's
harder to swallow the notion that Grimlock spontaneously generated a
new color scheme for five seconds than to accept the existence of a
sixth and seventh Dinobot who don't get very much screen time.)
> (Are we gonna get a black Dirge too?)
You mean this guy?
http://members.aol.com/zmfts/pvc_nosedive_cartoon.jpg
That's actually Thrust, not Dirge, but... yeah, I plan to get to him
eventually.
By the way, what does "Inessi" mean?
Zob
Zobovor
>http://pics.livejournal.com/shortpacked/pic/0005gf75/g1
Oooh. Pretty!
Zob
Zobovor
>>Going with Sludge being an actual Brontosaur, I say he should have
>>been a Manospondylus Gigas.
Now that I've done some Googling and actually understand the reference
you're making, I am now in a position where I can officially say that
you're a goofball.
Zob
Zobovor
>Honestly, I personally find repainting HoC/SCF figures boring and overdone
>so I was going to overlook this thread. I find your scratchbuilds and die cast
>works infinitely more interesting.
Regarding the PVC projects, I can understand where you're coming from.
To be totally honest, I only have a handful of clear/pewter PVC figures
left, and I kind of feel like I should be doing *something* with them
other than just letting them sit in my box of kitbashing fodder. (Some
of them, of course, I recognized that I'd never have a use for, like
Raiden or Super Ginrai, so I chopped them up into die-cast scale
Insecticons. Heh.)
I *am* dedicated to completing my repaints of the generic Decepticon
jets, if only because I love some of the character biographies I wrote
for some of them and I really want to showcase them as I complete the
repaints.
It's true that there have been a lot of PVC repaints within the fandom,
and I don't blame you for getting tired of them. The fun part, for me,
is coming up with repaints that other people haven't thought of yet.
(I know I've occasionally come up with repaints that other kitbashers
have already completed, but some project ideas are just too delicious
not to execute.)
>That is just my opinion and to put it in perspective, after Botcon I find I'm
>somewhat of a dinosaur in the kitbashing/repainting fandom. I've officially
>totally lost touch with what everyone thinks is cool. So who am I to judge.
There's no need for the disclaimer; I appreciate your honestly,
regardless of your feelings. That said, I wouldn't worry too much
about the opinions of the unwaashedf masses. Ludwig Van Beethhoven
said, "I have never thought of writing for reputation of honor. What I
have in my heart must come out; that is the reason I must compose."
Just create what you like; the right people will notice and appreciate
it.
That said, based on your BotCon experience, what exactly is the "in"
thing in kitbashing these days? I stopped paying attention when
everybody started doing Alternators head-swaps. (Now THAT is something
I find completely boring and uninspired. Anybody can take a toy that's
not designed to look like Mudflap, stick a Mudflap head on it, and go,
"Look! It's Mudflap!")
>>And yes, just so we're all on the same page, this isn't a PVC figure at
>>all, but one of the beautiful Titanium Series figures by Galoob.
> Here's a point at which we differ philosphically. I think the 3 inch
> Titaniums are horribly misproportioned, terribly posed, and sculpted by
> someone with little to no knowledge of the established character models
> (Starscream with a gun?) I would never call them beautiful but that's
> just me.
I do have issues with some of the figurines, and some of the sculpts
are much better than others. Unicron's probably my favorite, though.
He's very faithful in design to the character model as seen in
Transformers: the Movie. (I'd like to write reviews of all of them at
some point, but I just don't have the time to spend hours in front of
the computer like I once did. Here's some quick thoughts on them:
Optimus Prime is based on the Masterpiece toy, which is why his gun is
silver. Bumblebee reminds me of the Decoy figurine...for a while I
thought about getting a second one to turn into Hubcap. Starscream's
pretty unimpressive all around...I think he's based on the Classics
toy, but I'm not sure. Alternators Side Swipe has cheatsy shoulder
panels, and his grey parts are too dark. Isn't it interesting that
Alternators Jazz has blue racing stripes *and* a red front bumper when
the Hasbro transforming toy never looked like that? (The repaint I did
for ViceGripX looked like that, though. Makes you wonder, yes
indeedy.) The "Starship Ark" isn't the Ark at all, but one of the
shuttles from Transformers: the Movie, complete with detachable escape
pod. Beast Wars Megatron is okay, but it seems like they stayed too
true to the Hasbro toy. Optimus Primal isn't too bad. I wish the
Beast Wars characters had Maximal and Predacon insignia figure stands.
Who did I miss? I haven't opened the War Within version of Prime and
am probably going to return it.)
>The Titaniums aren't really the same size as the HoC figures are they?
>I consider the two lines entirely seperate.
Yeah, but I don't plan on doing any more Titanium repaints, so I just
threw my Unicron repaint in the same category as the PVC figures on my
page because I'm lazy. (At one time, I figured I could squeeze a
repaint out of every single Titanium figure. Optimus Prime could
become Ultra Magnus or Nemesis Prime; Bumblebee could be Ladybug or
Glyph; Starscream could become any of 25+ different Decepticons; Jazz
could be Shockwave with a minor head modification; Side Swipe could be
Sunstreaker or Dead End; Smokescreen could be Silverstreak or Ricochet;
Beast Wars Megatron could be T-Wrecks; Unicron could be the Energon toy
repaint... I was really excited about this idea for about two days
until I remembered that these things are five bucks a pop.)
>I'm just surprised you like these figures so much. All that aside, and in the
> interest of being positive, I will say I love how well you paint.
I think it's totally cool that you disagree, since you're being really
courteous about it. You're completely entitled to your opinions, after
all. Thanks for checking out my stuff!
Zob
Zobovor
<snip>
Just wanted to let you know that I'm not ignoring you, and that I do
plan to reply to your post when I have a bit more time. In the
meantime, I really appreciate all the kind words. Thanks!
Zob
Gustavo Wombat
[snip: Lots of stuff leading up to the 3" Titaniums...]
> Beast Wars Megatron could be T-Wrecks;
Damn. Now I want that odd misshapen little thing so I can paint it.
--Gustavo, preferring the various Megs repaints to the originals.
Cryotek, Megabolt, Predacon, T-Wrecks, and --um-- Megatron (CYB Beast)
are all just stunning.
SteveD
>Thank you for allowing me my delusions. (The way I look at it, it's
>harder to swallow the notion that Grimlock spontaneously generated a
>new color scheme for five seconds than to accept the existence of a
>sixth and seventh Dinobot who don't get very much screen time.)
How about "The Dinobots got bored between scenes and found some paint,
which they used to mock the wimps around them" ?
Data Cable
> You'd think that they would have just done one marker for the
> Decepticon jets and added a plaque below it that said
> "Thundercracker/Starscream/Skywarp/etc." I mean, it's not like anybody
> could tell the difference...
Oh, so all seekers look alike, huh... You seekerist bigot, I'm
reporting you to the DCLU.
--
DataCable^2006 A+ Remove NOSPAM when replying by e-mail
Zobovor
Onslaught Six wrote:
> I know it's not in this update (I think?) but I'm just gonna take the
> time to say that your Shredder project is absoloutely 'sick.' I've
> always liked seeing your kitbashes in general, especially your non-TF
> stuff, mainly because it covers a wide variety of subjects that I also
> happen to like.
That's great to hear. (It's funny, because about two days before I saw
this post of yours, I was walking past the kitbashing display shelf and
bemoaning the fact that nobody even seemed to notice my Shredder
project.) Thanks, by the way, for the novel-length response.
>(You're probably the only person in the world, other than myself, who's dreamt
>of Final Fantasy 4 figures. Speaking of, I'd kinda like to see some new pics of
>them at some point, out of interest.
I can do that. (I really need to get cracking on doing more of those
characters, too. I've had the base figures for Edge, Rosa and Rydia
picked out and sitting in my kitbashing fodder for years now.)
> And, what the hell, I'll also take this moment to say that, at least,
> 'I' have always enjoyed seeing your PVC repaints. Comics Starscream and
> all the various Seekers and the like.
It strikes me as interesting that both you and crazysteve have such
completely different tastes and preferences when it comes to the
projects I take on. I guess that just goes to prove that no matter
which projects I take on, there's bound to be somebody out there who
thinks they're pretty neat.
>(Speaking of, a PVC in MasterScream's colours would be a nifty project,
>I think.)
Isn't the Masterpiece Starscream toy just like regular ol' Starscream,
only in dark grey? Or are there more differences in the color scheme
that I'm unaware of?
> The diecast altmodes, I dunno--not 'too' interested in those,
> particularly, but that's because the attraction to TF has always been
> the robot modes rather than their altmodes, for me.
I can see where you're coming from.
> Hrmm. I don't much like TitCron, see--or the 3" Titaniums line in
> general, after seeing them in person on store pegs--I just think he
> kinda looks a little bit on the ugly side and is in a pretty ridiculous
> pose for my tastes.
Yeah, I seem to be in the minority regarding the Titanium figures, and
to some extent I agree about the silly poses that most of them seem to
get saddled with. I guess after years of sifting through merchandise
featuring the Armada/Energon/Cybertron characters, I'm just happy to
see so many of the G1 characters being featured again. (You have no
idea how disappointed I was when I learned that the upcoming Scorponok
figurine was not, in fact, the original Scorponok.)
> They're also very, very ugly and disgusting colours, but nontheless,
> that's a comment about the colour scheme itself and not your job. :P
Well, the sheer hideousness of the color scheme was precisely the
reason I wanted to do a repaint in those colors. :)
> I'd actually start by addressing the bit about Marvel apparently never
> getting the updated designs--I'd say it's highly likely that at some
> point, they did, but they'd already been using the old designs for so
> long (due to the length of time it takes to produce a comic, they
> probably started when those designs were current) that they thought it
> wiser to keep using them than switch to new ones with no explaination
> (especially, for example, the change in Galvatron's colouring, or other
> such oddities.)
I think Marvel Comics almost always dismissed the cartoon color models
in favor of color schemes that more closely matched the toys. That
said, I suppose you could be right, although I'd be remiss if I didn't
point out that the Marvel UK stories *did* see a major overhaul in
their character designs, as the Decepticon movie characters were drawn
exactly like the toys in their first appearances before eventually
settling into their more familiar Floro Dery renditions.
> The orange is quite interesting, and I'd almost like to see that used
> in an official colouring of Arcee at some point. This could be the
> perverted female character aesthetic that's in my head, also, but the
> red stripes on her mid-thighs remind me of the tops of nylon stockings,
> which is, I have to say, an interesting aesthetic design, if nothing
> else.
If you start with the premise that the light grey color on the faces
and hands of the movie Autobots represents bare skin, then Arcee is one
of the most naked Transformers ever designed. Her face, hands, upper
arms, mid-torso, and upper legs are all rendered in the same color,
which basically means she's wearing a bathing suit. (No, I didn't
actually just type this. Move on to the next paragraph.)
> I swear that I've already seen this PVC done somewhere else,
> though--Without the reposing, I'm sure, but I 'swear' I've seen the
> concept explored before in a PVC. And I *know* I've seen a Minverva PVC
> repainted as Nightbeat (and yes, it looks about as girly as you said it
> did) somewhere else. I could be thinking of M Sipher's repaints, or
> someone else's.
I'm pretty sure M Sipher did both of those, yeah. (I'm trying not to
step on his projects too much if I can help it. Since he did a
Guardian Robot, for example, I'm going to do a Dark Guardian instead.)
> I love generic Seekers. 'Love' them. If it was cost-effective for both
> parties, I would own Classics Starscream's mould as every single
> generic Seeker ever.
Me too. The only serious gripe I have with the Classics Starscream toy
is that there's no effective way to fold up the nosecone so that it's
not jutting out of the back of his head in some fashion. (I suppose
one could make the argument that he's true to the original toy in this
repsect, but I can't say I've ever waxed nostalgic for this particular
feature of the G1 toy.) And since I'm given to understand that
Classics Starscream is slated for a repaint/retool as Ramjet, I'm
wondering whether he'll be modified to better accept the traditional
conehead mistransformation, since you can't seem to do it with this
edition of the toy. But I digress.
>Calling his weapons Depth Charges amuses me on a level that only later TF names
> can, because I picture him firing giant Transmetal fishes from his
> launchers.
Heh heh heh.
> When did you get married again? This is news to me, seriously.
Last February, actually.
And that's all the time I've got.
Zob
Kil - Michael McCarthy
> Isn't the Masterpiece Starscream toy just like regular ol' Starscream,
> only in dark grey? Or are there more differences in the color scheme
> that I'm unaware of?
Here's a link to an MP Starscream gallery:
http://members9.tsukaeru.net/ty1_toys/toys/MP_03a.htm
> (I'm trying not to
> step on his projects too much if I can help it. Since he did a
> Guardian Robot, for example, I'm going to do a Dark Guardian instead.)
Is there a difference between a Guardian Robot and a Dark Guardian,
visually?
> Me too. The only serious gripe I have with the Classics Starscream toy
> is that there's no effective way to fold up the nosecone so that it's
> not jutting out of the back of his head in some fashion. (I suppose
> one could make the argument that he's true to the original toy in this
> repsect, but I can't say I've ever waxed nostalgic for this particular
> feature of the G1 toy.) And since I'm given to understand that
> Classics Starscream is slated for a repaint/retool as Ramjet, I'm
> wondering whether he'll be modified to better accept the traditional
> conehead mistransformation, since you can't seem to do it with this
> edition of the toy.
Here's a link to a pic of Classics Ramjet in robot mode:
I am curious as to if there any other thoughts and opinions on the Classics
line you'd like to share. Planning any reviews, or are the days of "Zob's
Thoughts" posts here on ATT now in the past?
-Kil
-----
Michael "Kil" McCarthy
http://kil-michaelmcc.livejournal.com
http://hometown.aol.com/michaelmcc79
Rik Bakke
> > (I'm trying not to step on his projects too much if I can help it.
> > Since he did a Guardian Robot, for example, I'm going to do a
> > Dark Guardian instead.)
>
> Is there a difference between a Guardian Robot and a Dark
> Guardian, visually?
The Dark Guardians seen in FOREVER IS A LONG TIME COMING
appear to have darker shades than the Guardians of WAR DAWN,
but whether someone intentionally made them darker to reflect the
murky regime of the Quintessons or the effort to match the colour
scheme was only approximate is difficult to say for certain.
--
Rik Bakke
silverbolt at c2i dot net
THE CYBERTRON CHRONICLE
http://cybertronchronicle.com
Onslau...@gmail.com
Zobovor wrote:
> [See? Told you I'd get back to this eventually.]
Not like I noticed, I only pop in once every few days. :P
> I can do that. (I really need to get cracking on doing more of those
> characters, too. I've had the base figures for Edge, Rosa and Rydia
> picked out and sitting in my kitbashing fodder for years now.)
Edge never captivated me, for some reason. I think it's because he
entered so late into the game when I played it.
> It strikes me as interesting that both you and crazysteve have such
> completely different tastes and preferences when it comes to the
> projects I take on. I guess that just goes to prove that no matter
> which projects I take on, there's bound to be somebody out there who
> thinks they're pretty neat.
And that's what makes the TF fandom so fun to be a part of. For every
BM fan, you have somebody screaming Trukk Not Munky. :P
> Isn't the Masterpiece Starscream toy just like regular ol' Starscream,
> only in dark grey? Or are there more differences in the color scheme
> that I'm unaware of?
It's more of a dark blue-green, actually. He's also got some blue on
the sides of his chest, and (without looking at pics) his waist, also.
And the red's more of a faded pink, from the pics I've seen.
> Yeah, I seem to be in the minority regarding the Titanium figures, and
> to some extent I agree about the silly poses that most of them seem to
> get saddled with. I guess after years of sifting through merchandise
> featuring the Armada/Energon/Cybertron characters, I'm just happy to
> see so many of the G1 characters being featured again. (You have no
> idea how disappointed I was when I learned that the upcoming Scorponok
> figurine was not, in fact, the original Scorponok.)
Between the reissues, Alternators, and various good homage figures, and
now Classics, I've got just about as many G1 characters as I can stand.
>.> In fact, several of my favourite figures from Cybertron appear to be new characters...
> Well, the sheer hideousness of the color scheme was precisely the
> reason I wanted to do a repaint in those colors. :)
Eheheh. That's practically the reason I like Universe Silverbolt.
> I think Marvel Comics almost always dismissed the cartoon color models
> in favor of color schemes that more closely matched the toys. That
> said, I suppose you could be right, although I'd be remiss if I didn't
> point out that the Marvel UK stories *did* see a major overhaul in
> their character designs, as the Decepticon movie characters were drawn
> exactly like the toys in their first appearances before eventually
> settling into their more familiar Floro Dery renditions.
Mmm, yeah. Most of the UK comics issues were done in black and white if
I recall, correct? So the colour issue isn't much of one for them,
anyway. Plus the US issues had the same colourist through the whole
thing, so. Plus, the UK issues had to be done at a much more rapid pace
than the US ones, so I could see why they'd have to go straight off the
toys for a bit...
> If you start with the premise that the light grey color on the faces
> and hands of the movie Autobots represents bare skin, then Arcee is one
> of the most naked Transformers ever designed. Her face, hands, upper
> arms, mid-torso, and upper legs are all rendered in the same color,
> which basically means she's wearing a bathing suit. (No, I didn't
> actually just type this. Move on to the next paragraph.)
Now we know why Daniel...Too easy?
> Me too. The only serious gripe I have with the Classics Starscream toy
> is that there's no effective way to fold up the nosecone so that it's
> not jutting out of the back of his head in some fashion. (I suppose
> one could make the argument that he's true to the original toy in this
> repsect, but I can't say I've ever waxed nostalgic for this particular
> feature of the G1 toy.) And since I'm given to understand that
> Classics Starscream is slated for a repaint/retool as Ramjet, I'm
> wondering whether he'll be modified to better accept the traditional
> conehead mistransformation, since you can't seem to do it with this
> edition of the toy. But I digress.
I had that problem too, until I tried to actually pose his head without
using the nosecone. Turns out that 'really' helps with it. The Ramjet
retool, though, he'll have a new Conehead-ey head. And wings. I'm
semi-anxious to see if they'll repaint him as Dirge or Thrust. (And if
we'll ever get a Thundercracker.)
Onslau...@gmail.com
Zobovor wrote:
> That said, based on your BotCon experience, what exactly is the "in"
> thing in kitbashing these days? I stopped paying attention when
> everybody started doing Alternators head-swaps. (Now THAT is something
> I find completely boring and uninspired. Anybody can take a toy that's
> not designed to look like Mudflap, stick a Mudflap head on it, and go,
> "Look! It's Mudflap!")
You know, you can't use Mudflap as an example of a random, though
nonexistant TF name anymore, since Hasbro gave us one of those. >.>
Chad Rushing
>
> If you start with the premise that the light grey color on the faces
> and hands of the movie Autobots represents bare skin, then Arcee is one
> of the most naked Transformers ever designed. Her face, hands, upper
> arms, mid-torso, and upper legs are all rendered in the same color,
> which basically means she's wearing a bathing suit. (No, I didn't
> actually just type this. Move on to the next paragraph.)
In that case, she's an absolutely perfect candidate for the current
KISS Players line from Takara Tomy. They wouldn't even have to have a
female human come with as Arcee would be the main attraction.
I still like BW Blackarachnia and GF Chromia better though.
- Chad
Chad Rushing
>
> In that case, she's an absolutely perfect candidate for the current
> KISS Players line from Takara Tomy. They wouldn't even have to have a
> female human come with as Arcee would be the main attraction.
I meant to say, "... female human come with HER as ..."
- Chad
crazysteve
> have already completed, but some project ideas are just too delicious
> not to execute.)
I wish I had the zeal like that. It's pretty inspiring to me to see
you've still got so many ideas you're passionate about.
> Just create what you like; the right people will notice and appreciate it.
I'm feeling pretty burnt out because being appreciated from afar
doesn't mean much to me anymore. I wanted to be sharing these things I
made instead of just showing them off online, but I found that even if
I made 10 or 30 or 50 figures it wasn't enough. Someone was always
dissapointed they couldn't get one. So kitbashing is a double edged
sword. I think it would have been better if I never started, or if the
majority of people hated everything I did. All I ever saw in my stuff
was the mistakes and how it came out wrong. I guess having people who
appreciated my work backfired on me and I figured they had low
standards or something if they liked what I was doing.
> That said, based on your BotCon experience, what exactly is the "in"
> thing in kitbashing these days? I stopped paying attention when
> everybody started doing Alternators head-swaps.
BIG is in. Making BIG things is the new hotness. I saw a repainted
Fortress Maximus and the 5 foot tall Devastator at Botcon and I knew
this would be the next trend. It's not just what I saw at the show,
though. Online there have been lots of people working independently on
big projects and that gets me thinking this is the beginning of a new
trend.
Have you seen the gigantic cardboard Laserbeak at
cardboardcostumes.com? The in-progress shots are here:
http://www.cardboardcostumes.com/Current_Projects.php
Have you seen the gigantic Metroplex that scubaboy31 is working on?
It's at TFans: http://www.tfans.com/talk/index.php?showtopic=43109
Of course Kingbotz Devastator is at http://www.kingbotz.com . It was
Shane of Kingbotz that had me especially feeling like yesterday's
model. I hung out with him and his friend Dennis on Botcon Saturday
night and as we talked it became apparent to me that doing things on a
large scale will probably replace Alternators repainting as the new
sexy exciting thing to do. Talking with Shane I couldn't help but
notice he's young, bright, talented, handsome, and most of all he's
motivated and he's got lots of ideas. In other words-he's the opposite
of me (except that I'm still handsome). I just felt more old and busted
listening to Shane's stories as the night went on. He's got some really
great ideas and he thinks big. He's already got next year's Botcon
contest entry in his head and I'm scared to think of what it could be.
Judging from all the people that came up to him and congratulated him
on raising the bar in TF kitbashing, I'd say next year's art show is
going to be really BIG.
> Thanks for checking out my stuff!
Thanks for still posting here.
Thylacine 2000
Zobovor wrote:
> Here are the latest additions to the ever-growing ZMFTS toy line. Feel
> free to praise, condemn, or perhaps more mercilessly, completely ignore
> this stuff. (
Speaking of Zob's stuff that hasn't been ignored....
http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15704&st=0
Comment, Zob? ;)
Autobus Prime
CR:
In certain parts of the US this is perfectly clear usage.
"I'm going down to the Super Value. You want to come with?"
Cordially yours:
Autobus Prime
w/minicon Farebox.
Aaron F. Bourque
> Here are the latest additions to the ever-growing ZMFTS toy line. Feel
> free to praise, condemn, or perhaps more mercilessly, completely ignore
> this stuff. (Of course, if you're nice to me now, your chances
> increase exponentially of me actually considering lending you money
> when I become rich and famous. Just a thought.)
>
> early G1 episodes. My latest one is the greenish-blue background
> character whom Derik Smith has christened Seafoam. (I've liberally
> dismissed some of the names he coined when I felt they were too silly,
> but I love the name Seafoam.)
>
> http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/pvc_seafoam_repaint.html
He gets land-sick. I love him, and I love you.
Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque
Aaron F. Bourque
> >(You're probably the only person in the world, other than myself, who's dreamt
> >of Final Fantasy 4 figures. Speaking of, I'd kinda like to see some new pics of
> >them at some point, out of interest.
>
> I can do that. (I really need to get cracking on doing more of those
> characters, too. I've had the base figures for Edge, Rosa and Rydia
> picked out and sitting in my kitbashing fodder for years now.)
If Onslaught doesn't want to see Edge, *I* for one do. But you've gotta
capture his smarmy ding-bat bad-assedness.
Aaron F. Bourque
> > Well, the sheer hideousness of the color scheme was precisely the
> > reason I wanted to do a repaint in those colors. :)
>
> Eheheh. That's practically the reason I like Universe Silverbolt.
What are you talking about? Universe Silverbolt isn't hideous!!!
Aaron F. Bourque
> That is just my opinion and to put it in perspective, after Botcon
Wait, Botcon came and went?
Chad Rushing
>
> Wait, Botcon came and went?
It is a bit hard to believe that it was only one month ago as I have
not heard it mentioned at all lately. There was a slew of BotCon
personal reports in the first week of October and then absolutely
nothing else about it.
- Chad
who read his BotCon 2006 comic book for the first time today
brian...@gmail.com
it to maybe bring some new eyes to this thread.
http://www.unicron.com/news_item/714/
(Been a while since posting on ATT)
-Brian
Zobovor
Kil - Michael McCarthy wrote:
> Here's a link to an MP Starscream gallery:
>
> http://members9.tsukaeru.net/ty1_toys/toys/MP_03a.htm
Interesting. (I wonder if Hasbro is planning on selling this toy
domestically at some point? As an aside, I saw the "new" Masterpiece
Optimus Prime at Wal-Mart a couple of days ago. It's the same toy with
some different paint applications and a new electronic display base
that plays some *really* atrocious recordings. I guess they couldn't
sample actual dialogue from the movie so they got the guy who did the
recordings for the G.I. Joe Voice FX Duke doll to do this horrible
Optimus Prime impression. Ugh.)
> Is there a difference between a Guardian Robot and a Dark Guardian,
> visually?
Yes. The Dark Guardians consistently have a separate and distinct
color scheme from the Guardian Robots. While the Guardian Robots were
predominantly white and blue with "Autobot blue" eyes, Dark Guardians
are greyish-blue with "Decepticon red" eyes. The difference in color
scheme is deliberate, not accidental.
> Here's a link to a pic of Classics Ramjet in robot mode:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ybzs6x
Thanks for the link, Kil. That is one really good-looking toy.
(Lately I've tried to avoid preview images of toys because I really
enjoy the surprise of "discovering" new products at the store, but in
this case I'm glad I'm glad I took a peek, since I'm quite looking
forward to Ramjet. Now, what does Classics Cliffjumper look like?)
> I am curious as to if there any other thoughts and opinions on the Classics
> line you'd like to share. Planning any reviews, or are the days of "Zob's
> Thoughts" posts here on ATT now in the past?
I've been wanting to review the Classics toys for about two weeks now,
but I haven't really found the time to actually sit down with them and
type up my thoughts. Besides, my toy reviews tend to be really
controversial and sometimes the hostile reactions can dampen my
enthusiasm for sharing my thoughts with the newsgroup.
Just for example, I've been saying since the dawn of the millenium that
Hasbro could sell a Megatron toy that turns into a gun if they came up
with a new cybertronic weapon mode that didn't look like a real-life
firearm. I even seem to recall suggesting replacing his black colors
with purple, on the grounds that it has a precedent (Action Master
Megatron) and it wouldn't totally ruin his aesthetics. I would love to
write a review of Classics Megatron and, in the doing, insert a
parenthetical "I told you so" rant that's littered from quotes culled
from Google's archives from six years ago, but it's probably in my best
interest not to.
Zob
Zobovor
<snip>
A fairly long time ago, I mentioned to you that I caught some mistakes
in your episode transcripts and that I was, at some point, going to
sift through them and tally them up for you. (I counted 120.) Feel
free to disagree with me on any or all of these, but I'm only uncertain
about the ones that I've marked as such.
(And, for the record, I have absolutely no idea what the second farmer
says in "Quest for Survival." Don't be eaten? Darn beetles? I don't
even think he's speaking English.)
***
List of corrections for G1 episode transcripts on the Cybertron
Chronicle. Corrections and notes are in parentheses.
"More Than Meets the Eye" part 1
STARSCREAM: Autobots! Stop them! (This is not Starscream, but a
generic Decepticon who is miscolored in this scene. It wasn't Chris
Latta
delivering the line so it wouldn't have been scripted as Starscream in
the episode.)
SKYWARP: We've gotta report back to Megatron. (We'd better report
back to Megatron.)
"More Than Meets the Eye" part 2
UNKNOWN: Fire!
UNKNOWN: Can't see him! (This is John Stephenson's voice so this is
probably an early Windcharger, whose "normal" voice we don't hear until
"Fire on the Mountain.")
RATCHET There he is! (This is Gears, who just used his infrared to
locate Ravage. Don Messick's delivery fluctuated throughout the first
season.)
"Fire in the Sky"
JAZZ (Laughs) (This is actually Cliffjumper laughing.)
SKYWARP: Tunnel blasting completed. Layin' the new pipe. ("Lay in
the new pipe.")
SKYWARP: But not perfect. Info center's down. ("Impulse center's
down.")
GEARS: I got a tingle in my sensor lens, like we might be falling
right into a trap! ("I got a tingle in my sensor links...")
"S.O.S Dinobots"
BLUESTREAK: Look at the size of those things! Great Cybertron! Holy
hetrodyne! (These are perhaps the first true "generic Autobot" lines
of
dialogue. Gregg Berger's only two characters at this point were
Skyfire [still encased in ice, unless the chronology of the episodes is
incorrect]
and Grimlock [who obviously can't be commenting on his own unveiling
ceremony]. In any event, these lines should not be attributed to
Bluestreak. If you're going strictly by which characters open their
mouth, then you need to note that it's "really" Cliffjumper who says,
"Interesting. What else can they do?")
"The Ultimate Doom" part 1
SUNSTREAKER: We were set up! (This is... well, either Prowl or
Sideswipe. Take your pick.)
SPARKPLUG WITWICKY: Let me go, you (?)-beaked buzzard! ("Let me go,
you Bakelite-beaked buzzard!")
JAZZ: Into the ocean, best be daring, the last one in is a rusty
herring! ("Into the ocean, let's be daring...")
SUNSTREAKER: (?), Mega-dunce! Plenty more! ("Ditto, Mega-dunce!")
"Countdown to Extinction"
JAZZ: I think we've seen the last o' old Star-creep, all right, if
that's the first thing that's gone right all day. ("...and that's the
first thing that's gone
right all day.")
"A Plague of Insecticons"
FARMER NO. 1: Ahh! A (?) of monsters from the sky! ("A plague of
monsters from the sky!")
"Autobot Spike"
AUTOBOT SPIKE: Your partly right, Optimus. ("You're partly right...")
"Changing Gears"
JAZZ: Man, luck at that patch o' leaves! ("Man, look at that
patch...")
CLIFFJUMPER: Forget it, you two! This is my stall! ("This is my
solo!")
STARSCREAM (incorrectly voiced as SKYWARP) Shouldn't this be SKYWARP
[incorrectly colored as STARSCREAM]?
"City of Steel"
MEGATRON: Indeed, you fool. Dig! ("Then dig, you fool, dig!")
BUMBLEBEE: We'll have to fight in here! ("We'll have to fight it
here.")
MIXMASTER: "It will be my best, Skywarp! Will be my best best!"
("Only my best, Skywarp! Only my best best!")
"Traitor"
RATCHET: Put your axel up and rest a while, Mirage. ("Put your axle
up...")
"The Immobilizer"
CLIFFJUMPER: Uh, what does it instantly immobilize? (This is actually
Gears delivering the line and animated incorrectly.)
JAZZ I don't know, man. It still looks like the same [Still trying to
figure out what he says here--Editor] to me. ("Aqua pura.")
"The Autobot Run"
BONECRUSHER: When this device is ready, it'll wreck those Autobots
good, Long Haul. They won't know what hit them. (This is Scrapper
animated incorrectly.)
DEVASTATOR: Those fiends. They make me feel strange! ("Those
beams...")
"Atlantis, Arise!"
KING NERGILL (Communicates with his kind in a strange-sounding
language) (It's not completely unintelligible. It's something like,
"Guards, put
your weapons away. We don't want to put them off guard.")
THUNDERCRACKER: The Autobots are through! ("You Autobots are
through!")
GRIMLOCK:Goodbye, good riddance! ("Not goodbye--good riddance!")
"A Prime Problem"
JAZZ: Let's punch up the entrance scanner... ("Let's punch up the
entry scanner...")
"The Core"
SCAVENGER: Uaaaahh! (This is Scrapper, off-screen, making this
noise.)
JAZZ: Chill out, Gears! It'll do wonders for all the (?) in your
complexion! ("..chrome in your complexion.")
"Dinobot Island" part 1
SPIKE: What is this bird planning on hatching out of these eggs??
Battle chips? ("Battleships?")
"Dinobot Island" part 2
HOUND: New Earth-like forms? (Hound animated as Sunstreaker in this
scene.)
IRONHIDE: Come on, you walkin' sandrugs! ("Shag rugs.")
PIRATE CAPTAIN: Abaft, ye scurvy swabs! ("Avast...")
OUTLAW GANG LEADER: Whoa there! Come on, let's whop these ?
tenderfeet! ("...dadburned tenderfeet.")
"Auto Berserk"
RED ALERT: That was warning! Stay away!! ("That was a warning...")
"Microbots"
ARCHAEOLOGIST: No way! It's at least thirteen-hundred years old!
(Depending on which version of the episode you're transcribing, he
actually
says "No way! It's an at least thirteen hundred years old!" I think
there was an edit that wasn't spliced very cleanly. Kid Rhino cleaned
this up
for the DVD release.)
SCAVENGER (laughs) (This is Rumble laughing.)
"Megatron's Master Plan" part 2
JUSTIN: Mom, I don't have any metal crayons. ("...metal-colored
crayons.")
"Desertion of the Dinobots" part 1
MEGATRON: Surrender the final blueprints and we will not hurt you!
("Surrender the fighter blueprints...")
"Blaster Blues"
OMEGA SUPREME: Omega Supreme preparing for bay. Passengers, disembark.
("...preparing for battle.")
"Make Tracks"
RAOUL: I got an anti-stripping device on this baby--called a bomb!
("...called 'the bomb.'")
RAVAGE: (Growls) I'll draw their fire, man! Hey, you scuzz-bums! Over
here! (Dialogue should be attributed to Raoul, and the word is
scuzzbombs.)
"Quest for Survival"
SMOKESCREEN: Autobots, transform! (This dialogue belongs to Tracks.)
"The Secret of Omega Supreme"
DEVASTATOR: (Sarcastically) Quit squirming! This if for your own good!
("This is for your own good!")
"Sea Change"
SEASPRAY (Chuckles) Bumblebee, you are great! ("...you were great!")
BUMBLEBEE: Aw, dream on, bumble-brain. Now let's go! ("...bubble
brain...")
ASTROTRAIN (Coughs and spits) This is Rumble doing the coughing and
spitting.
"Triple Takeover"
THRUST: Astrotrain couldn't lead rats to a garbage can. (Laughs) (I
can hear Dirge laughing with him in this scene.)
"Prime Target"
OCTOBER GUARD PILOT: Oktober Guard 1 to base. (Which spelling do you
want to use?)
GRAPPLE: Hey, who designed this red trap?? (..."rat trap.")
LORD CHUMLEIGH: I made that mistake with a rhino in the (?) one time.
("Veldt.")
"Auto-Bop"
RAOUL: I wish this was 'B' Blaster! (No, it's "I wish this was THE
Blaster," as opposed to a "regular" ghetto blaster.)
ROCKSTEADY: This is a local! (I've always heard this as, "This is
loco!" but I admit I could be wrong.)
"Hoist Goes Hollywood"
MEGATRON: Because of your bungling, it was left asoak in that swamp!
("...left to soak in that swamp.")
ONSLAUGHT: Get this Aerialbot trash off of me! So I can blast him
into oblivion!
BLAST OFF Unite...
(Now, you know and I know what Onslaught and Blast Off are *supposed*
to be saying here, but if this is a strict transcript of the finished
episode, neither of these characters speaks the dialogue you've listed
here. "Blast him into obli--" and "--ite" are all we hear.)
"War Dawn"
What's up with your links to Act 2 and Act 3?
FIREFLIGHT: Huh? (Fireflight animated as Skydive, if you're going to
be consistent about attributing incorrect dialogue.)
"Trans-Europe Express"
SUNSTREAKER: Sideswipe!! Hit the breaks!! (Cars have brakes, not
breaks.)
"Cosmic Rust"
MENASOR: Hit! Damaged! (This is a line of Astrotrain's that was
recycled from earlier in the episode when he says, "I'm hit! Damage
extreme,
but holding!" You can't get the word "damaged" out of Astrotrain's
dialogue.)
"The Revenge of Bruticus"
VARIOUS AUTOBOTS (Disappointedly) Awww... (That's Ironhide's voice, not
"various Autobots.")
VARIOUS PEOPLE talk in each other's mouths... (You used this phrase in
"Auto-Bop," too. What does that mean, "talk in each other's
mouths"?)
SIDESWIPE: Yeah! Why did he just let us leave to rejoin our friends on
Earth without even a blast for goodbye? (No. This is Sunstreaker
delivering dialogue that was incorrectly animated as Sideswipe.)
"B.O.T."
MEGATRON: But if you ever pull a stunt like that again, I'll melt you
down for scraptutonium. ("...scrap tutonium.")
THE TRANSFORMERS: THE MOVIE
STARSCREAM: Much easier, allmighty Megatron... (Almighty has one "L.")
PERCEPTOR: Hey, run, Blaster! Save yourself! (Perceptor is
struggling, not saying "hey.")
JAZZ:This is Jazz! A gynormous... (This is just a stylistic choice,
but if the word is a fusion of "gigantic" and "enormous" then wouldn't
it be
spelled "ginormous"?)
"Five Faces of Darkness" part 1
BUMBLEBEE: Oh, oh, oh... (This is Warpath.)
WHEELIE: Some win, some lose. Decepticons pop up, Autobots lose!
("Decepticons plot while Autobots snooze." Otherwise you're rhyming
the word "lose" with the word "lose.")
CYCLONUS: Cool it! ("Quiet!") Finally, the last visual appearance of
Galvatron. ("Find me the last visual appearance...")
BLASTER: We sure trust you, we ? no lies-- ("We sure trust you,
that's no lies..." I know, it's grammatically incorrect for the sake
of making it
rhyme.)
GRIMLOCK: They not? But if not they, who are? Who are devil?? ("Who
are them [muffled sounds]...")
part 2
DRAG STRIP (Can't make this out) "Let's get inside!"
part 3
BLITZWING (incorrectly voiced as SWINDLE): They wanna make a deal with
us. (This should be SWINDLE incorrectly animated as BLITZWING)
UNKNOWN: Bad idea! (This is Motormaster.)
MOTORMASTER: They yays have it! ("The 'yeas' have it.")
BLASTER: Rockin' (can't make this out) clear channels. (To me this
has always sounded like, "Rockin' with ya, clear channels.")
MOTORMASTER: Galvatron, you have returned! (No idea which Decepticon
this was supposed to be, but it was incorrectly animated as
Motormaster.)
part 5
WARPATH: It never--ZWOOM!--stood a chance--BOOM... (I've always
thought the last sound effect here was BOING.)
SWEEP NO. 3: But this is over (?)-- ("Cyclonus is overreacting!")
WHEELIE: Hardly a swarm. See the circly form? ("...the circle they
form?")
OLD MAN: (?) They plum-burned out. (Col' durn, they plum burned
out!")
INQUIRATA: They are much smarter than they appeared to be on the
monitor. ("...much smaller." This is a joke. Television stars are
always
filmed from dramatic angles that make them look larger than life, so
there's a running gag when interviewers or talk show hosts meet the
stars in
real life and comment, "You're a lot shorter than you look on TV.")
WRECK-GAR: And we got troubles! Down the drain. ("Away goes troubles
down the drain." He's making a reference to the old Drano
commercials.)
Hold on, sports fans! Ultra Magnus will be back at your station
identification. Look! ("...after station identification.")
ULTRA MAGNUS: To my visual receptors, it looks more like an Autobot
cruiser than a Decepticon djunk. ("Djunk"?)
WRECK-GAR: Go back, Jack, and do it again! (He sings this line.)
"Forever is a Long Time Coming"
BLURR: Slaves? What's a slave? We're not slaves! ("Slaves? Who's a
slave?")
RODIMUS PRIME: Quintesson warships coming out off the eulyptic (?)!
("Elliptic.")
WRECK-GAR: Phew. One to five rodents agree exceptional headache number
one is a mad dog guardian. ("Four out of five robots agree...")
REWIND: You'd think the die has been cast. ("I think the die has been
cast.")
QUINTESSON JUDGE: Slaves, attention: We have observed your futile (?)
rebellion with much amusement. ("...futile efforts at rebellion...")
"Starscream's Ghost"
SANDSTORM: Eh, looks like the usual slop. High and static. ("High in
static.")
OCTANE: (Mistakenly in Starscream's voice) So you think Galvatron's
nothing but slag-iron now?
STARSCREAM: (Mistakenly in Octane's voice) Heh, yeah! We've seen the
last of that sucker! (If this is a transcript, just note that
Starscream
and Octane delivered these lines. Goodness knows there are enough
instances of characters talking out of turn. Or in each others'
mouths.)
"Nightmare Planet"
WITCH: Abracadabra! Hocus Pocus! And with this magic hoad (?)--
("Magic ode.")
"Webworld"
GALVATRON: I'll... get this to work... then I'll show them what the...
(Can't quite decipher last part--Editor.) ("...to think of it...")
"Carnage in C-Minor"
SOUNDWAVE: Great Galvatron, is that wise? ("But Galvatron...")
"The Ultimate Weapon"
BLADES: What's with Rodimus Prime? He's so edgy! (This is
Streetwise.)
DANIEL: Screams (he screams four times, not two.)
"The Big Broadcast of 2006"
WRECK-GAR: Lassie! (Can't make the last part out--editor.)
WRECK-GAR'S COMPANION: And I'm beauitful!
WRECK-GAR: ("Lassie!")
WRECK-GAR'S COMPANION: ("I'm back, and I'm beauitful!")
"Fight or Flee"
SOUNDWAVE (oddly sounding like SHRAPNEL): We're picking up an image,
Galvatron-Galvatron. (Shrapnel animated as Soundwave.)
"The Dweller in the Depths"
RODIMUS PRIME: That power core will keep Cybertron lit for centuries.
(Rodimus animated as Springer.)
"Money is Everything"
DIRK MANUS: Mayday! Mayday! Trader ship 'Lazy Sue' under hostile fire!
(It's standard practice to put the names of ships in italics, not
quotes.)
HUN-GRRR: Scoot! (This is Computron speaking.)
"Grimlock's New Brain"
RODIMUS PRIME: --in the next, everything's normal. ("...and the
next...")
"Call of the Primitives"
Should be symbol flip, but instead there's a space background with a
TRANSFORMERS logo on it. (My copy is fine. Looks like SKY Channel
got an incomplete version of the episode.)
BLURR: Oh, there's something to get excited about. Boy, a (?) nickel in
space. ("Plugged nickel," maybe? I'm not really sure.)
BLURR: When I'd zip into car mode, soon (Can't make this out) ("Wham,
zip! Into car mode! Zoom, whoosh, gone! And we'd never have to
think about...")
BLURR: That'd make a nice little (?), suckers! ("How about a nice
little soak, suckers?")
CYCLONUS: (Chuckles) You've never understood modern psychology, have
you? ("...mob psychology...")
BLURR: Just right for gettin' the jinx out! ("Just right for getting
the kinks outWILDRIDER
"The Burden Hardest to Bear"
WILDRIDER: Hah haw! Let's waste that dinket! ("...waste that
dinkus!")
Should be symbol flip, but instead there's a space background with a
TRANSFORMERS logo on it. (There is a symbol flip in the completed
broadcast version.)
SWEEP NO. 3 :[Can't make this out just yet--Editor] ("Beat feet!")
UNKNOWN ROBOT (PROBABLY SUPPOSED TO BE CROSSHAIRS): What's all the
hubbub? (Crosshairs animated as Pinpointer.)
BLURR: (Can't make this out), Spike? What's goin' on? ("All right, so
c'mon, what is it, Spike?")
MINDWIPE: They sure gave us a pounding. (This is Peter Cullen's
voice, so this must be Slugslinger, not Mindwipe.)
HOT ROD: Yeah, we never seem to get any breaks. ("Yeah, we never seem
to get a break.")
"The Rebirth" part 3
(BLAST OFF: That's the last of the Aerialbots, Galvatron.)
(ONSLAUGHT: My Combaticons have completed the construction you
requested on the far side of the planet. )
***
I'll entertain discussion about these if you're interested. Just let
me know.
Dave
Zobovor
> If Onslaught doesn't want to see Edge, *I* for one do.
The base figure I found for Edge was actually my impetus for doing
Final Fantasy kitbashes in the first place, so rest assured he's
definitely on the "to-do" list. :)
Zob
Zobovor
> You know, you can't use Mudflap as an example of a random, though
> nonexistant TF name anymore, since Hasbro gave us one of those.
Yeah, but I was using the name before Hasbro was, so I reserve the
right to stubbornly pretend that it's still a perfectly valid example
of a stupid name that Hasbro would never actually use. /:)
Zob
Zobovor
> Speaking of Zob's stuff that hasn't been ignored....
>
> http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15704&st=0
>
> Comment, Zob? ;)
Wow. That's awesome. (I always knew that I'd break into comic books
one day, but somehow this isn't quite how I pictured it.)
Zob
Zobovor
> A fairly long time ago, I mentioned to you that I caught some mistakes
> in your episode transcripts and that I was, at some point, going to
> sift through them and tally them up for you.
Whoops. Meant to send this via e-mail. Just ignore this.
Zob
Derik 'Inessi' Smith
> Just for example, I've been saying since the dawn of the millenium that
> Hasbro could sell a Megatron toy that turns into a gun if they came up
> with a new cybertronic weapon mode that didn't look like a real-life
> firearm. I even seem to recall suggesting replacing his black colors
> with purple, on the grounds that it has a precedent (Action Master
> Megatron) and it wouldn't totally ruin his aesthetics.
What if they created a new Megatron that turned into a comicly oversize
handgun the size of a hair dryer?
It's the same premise as World's Smallest Megatron- only in reverse!
No one could possibly mistake him for a real gun!
No, wait, what am I saying? That'd be silly.
-Derik
Kil - Michael McCarthy
>> Is there a difference between a Guardian Robot and a Dark Guardian,
>> visually?
>
> Yes. The Dark Guardians consistently have a separate and distinct
> color scheme from the Guardian Robots. While the Guardian Robots were
> predominantly white and blue with "Autobot blue" eyes, Dark Guardians
> are greyish-blue with "Decepticon red" eyes. The difference in color
> scheme is deliberate, not accidental.
Huh. I never noticed any of that before.
>> Here's a link to a pic of Classics Ramjet in robot mode:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/ybzs6x
>
> Thanks for the link, Kil. That is one really good-looking toy.
> (Lately I've tried to avoid preview images of toys because I really
> enjoy the surprise of "discovering" new products at the store, but in
> this case I'm glad I'm glad I took a peek, since I'm quite looking
> forward to Ramjet. Now, what does Classics Cliffjumper look like?)
He's a straight recolor of Bumblebee, and not a very attractive one, IMO,
particularly his vehicle mode deco.
Clffjumper robot mode:
Cliffjumper vehicle mode:
>> I am curious as to if there any other thoughts and opinions on the
>> Classics
>> line you'd like to share. Planning any reviews, or are the days of
>> "Zob's
>> Thoughts" posts here on ATT now in the past?
>
> I've been wanting to review the Classics toys for about two weeks now,
> but I haven't really found the time to actually sit down with them and
> type up my thoughts. Besides, my toy reviews tend to be really
> controversial and sometimes the hostile reactions can dampen my
> enthusiasm for sharing my thoughts with the newsgroup.
>
> Just for example, I've been saying since the dawn of the millenium that
> Hasbro could sell a Megatron toy that turns into a gun if they came up
> with a new cybertronic weapon mode that didn't look like a real-life
> firearm. I even seem to recall suggesting replacing his black colors
> with purple, on the grounds that it has a precedent (Action Master
> Megatron) and it wouldn't totally ruin his aesthetics. I would love to
> write a review of Classics Megatron and, in the doing, insert a
> parenthetical "I told you so" rant that's littered from quotes culled
> from Google's archives from six years ago, but it's probably in my best
> interest not to.
Well hey, now don't have to deliver an "I told you so" message in the
review, since you kinda just did it right here.