Bigger TFs
adamcas
What TFs would you like to see be bigger.. by that I mean, like, I wish
they had made Warpath the size of G2 Megatron.. I think Powerglide would
be cool if he were the size of Starscream....
Drogn
Spacecase of course, a Rodimus big enough for LazerOP articulation
plus wrists, Blaster at 1:1 scale with a real radio and with real radio
innards, G2 Deceptijet Smokescreen the size of Jetfire/Valks, Abominus and
Computron with the individual team members the size of the original OP and
really good articualtion. Tiresong is a no-go but if I ever get around to
building Mainspring he'll be about 15x4.5x3 inches as currently planned,
in transport mode. Next?
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Delta Oracon
Even if they were bigger, it would be nice if they had new
transformation, or perhaps superposeability--I just have this fascination
with joints and proportion.
But the TFs I'd like to see supersized are the Dinobots ('cuz dinos are
suppose to be humungous) and the Aerialbots. I think the Aerials have
the best "little component" transformation with their jetpacks in back.
However, they would have to find a new look for Superion (the worse
looking Gestalt IMHO). A larger Bumblebee would be cool as well, and not
to mention Windcharger and Tailgate (awesome looking cars).
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On Sat, 10 Aug 1996, adamcas wrote:
> What TFs would you like to see be bigger.. by that I mean, like, I wish
> they had made Warpath the size of G2 Megatron.. I think Powerglide would
> be cool if he were the size of Starscream....
>
> ada...@ipass.net
>
>
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Drogn wrote:
> In article <320D51...@ipass.net>, adamcas <ada...@ipass.net> wrote:
> > What TFs would you like to see be bigger.. by that I mean, like, I wish
> > they had made Warpath the size of G2 Megatron.. I think Powerglide would
> > be cool if he were the size of Starscream....
> plus wrists, Blaster at 1:1 scale with a real radio and with real radio
> innards, G2 Deceptijet Smokescreen the size of Jetfire/Valks, Abominus and
> Computron with the individual team members the size of the original OP and
> really good articualtion. Tiresong is a no-go but if I ever get around to
> building Mainspring he'll be about 15x4.5x3 inches as currently planned,
> in transport mode. Next?
Well, the mention of PowerGlide got me on my 'to-scale' though processes
again... If PowerGlide were to scale with the Seekers and JetFire, he'd be
bigger'n all of 'em. A-10's are BIG planes.
As for others I'd have liked to see bigger, Metroplex, to scale with the
*Masters. =)
Trypticon, also to-scale with the *Masters =) =)
Sludge, to scale with the other Dinobots :)
The MicroMaster bases and the first four MicroMaster patrols (before they got
carried away with 'em and made them the entire line) to scale with *Masters
or the G1 cars, or heck, even the G1 seekers *)
As for blaster, just take a mini-cassette deck, parts from a small walkman,
and have at it. I am, as soon as I can get a back-up Blaster :)
Same goes for Soundwave.
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In article <320D51...@ipass.net>, adamcas <ada...@ipass.net>
wrote:
>What TFs would you like to see be bigger.. by that I mean, like, I
wish
>they had made Warpath the size of G2 Megatron.. I think Powerglide
would
>be cool if he were the size of Starscream....
Jetfire the size of Fort Max! Yah!
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I think Powerglide would
> be cool if he were the size of Starscream....
Iggy Drougge
adamcas (ada...@ipass.net) wrote:
: What TFs would you like to see be bigger.. by that I mean, like, I wish
The Gobots and Axelerators would be cool, preferably with more detailed
transformations. Also, Cyberjets, as well as Constructicons and
Aerialbots.
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Why not also *smaller* TFs?
I'd like to see Fort Max and Scorponok smaller, and more posable.
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Mike wrote:
>
> I think Powerglide would
> > be cool if he were the size of Starscream....
umm...I live on an Air Force Base. A-10s and F-15s are about the same
size...
Speaking of jets, anyone know what Hooligan is? And no he's not an F-14
or an F-111, just so no one says he is.
Til All Are One...
Starduster
Eric Matthews/Ruth Blaney/Jonah Rapp
Iggy Drougge wrote:
>
> adamcas (ada...@ipass.net) wrote:
> : What TFs would you like to see be bigger.. by that I mean, like, I wish
> : be cool if he were the size of Starscream....
>
> transformations. Also, Cyberjets, as well as Constructicons and
> Aerialbots.
I just miss the metal and high-quality plastic construction. I mean
Sideswipe. THAT was a Transformer. Hound. THAT was a Transformer. Rubber
tires, fer Cybertron's sake! Painted in the proper colors even!! I don't
know. Is it just me, or has antone else out there never seen an ORANGE
tiger-striped jet? Hooligan? Fireflight? Scrapper? Anything that can
melt if I forget it on the dashboard of my car doesn't deserve to be
called a Transformer (don't worry. It was only a G2 Fireflight. I still
have my G1 version intact). Be nice if they could somehow merge the two.
Super-posable, high-quality construction and attention to detail. Be
very nice...
Oh well.
Tengu
The excuses the HasKen reps made at Botcon were entirely economical.
Newer" TF and GI Joe toys have to compete for shelf space, and thus have
to be bright and eye catching. (though I've never seen a bright-orange
Darth Vader, and Star Wars POTF2 is the #1 line in the country...) As for
die-cast parts, when I asked they said they were too expensive, and moreso
unnecessary- the new "poseability" prohibits too many rigid metal parts.
I maintain that the "shelf space competition" is a load of crap. You
don't need to make a toy ugly to catch the eye. Heck, when we're looking
for new Transformers, do we really need them to "catch" our eyes? Our
eyes are already primed to do the work in finding them...
Tengu:<>
Joseph Neo
Tengu (te...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: The excuses the HasKen reps made at Botcon were entirely economical.
: Tengu:<>
Catch the eyes? That's a ridiculous excise. Sure they caught my eyes but
the colours were so loud that it took me until this year to buy them and
that's because they were 50% off. I don't think we or the kids are too blind
anyway; what do they think we are? Insects? If they wanted to use the
"catch the eyes concept" the could make the packaging really bright
instead. The Autobots Cyberjets had dull colours but THAT REALLY caught
my eyes and it caught my money too, even at the Chinatown price of C$10
each (they never appeared in any other stores here). In addition, I never
ever bought any recoloured Transformers before if I already have one with the
same mold, even if they are different characters.
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In article <4vna63$2...@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>,
Tengu <te...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> The excuses the HasKen reps made at Botcon were entirely economical.
>Newer" TF and GI Joe toys have to compete for shelf space, and thus have
>to be bright and eye catching. (though I've never seen a bright-orange
>Darth Vader, and Star Wars POTF2 is the #1 line in the country...) As for
>die-cast parts, when I asked they said they were too expensive, and moreso
>unnecessary- the new "poseability" prohibits too many rigid metal parts.
I'm not mourning the loss of metal parts ... I'll take poseability over metal
any day.....
> I maintain that the "shelf space competition" is a load of crap. You
>don't need to make a toy ugly to catch the eye. Heck, when we're looking
>for new Transformers, do we really need them to "catch" our eyes? Our
>eyes are already primed to do the work in finding them...
True ... if you really have the search-image of the Transformer packaging in
your head, you'd likely react to any toy box that looks similar, even if you
only catch a glimpse of it out of the corner of your eye. For years after they
changed the lettering and the look of the boxes, I'd still stop dead in my
tracks if I caught the hint of a purple or red grid-pattern on the packaging of
some other toy, since my search-image was tuned to it. A lot of the rip-off
toy companies took advantage of that, packaging their recolored bootlegs in
packages with an identical background and identical style of lettering. For
those of us who really knew what was a real Transformer and what wasn't, the
second, closer look made it very obvious, but the ploy surely fooled a lot of
hurried holiday shoppers who were buying stuff for their kids....
As for the bright colors, I personally love some of the tacky G2 coloring,
and that orange jet with the tiger stripes is one of my all-time favorites ...
but there have been instances when it was just inappropriate. The Decepticon
Rotor Force guys, for instance, were originally released with black rotors,
which went with their overall color scheme. They were followed shortly
thereafter by re-releases with red rotors -- to stand out better on the
shelves. And maybe to make the rotor more obvious and easier to find when
you've spun it off into the middle of a room and it landed on a dark carpet
somewhere. But it just didn't go with the rest of the toys' colors, and was a
stupid move, typical of a company that was more worried about short-term
profits than about maintaining the integrity of the characters. I have *much*
higher hopes for Kenner, especially after this year's BotCon.....
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In article <4vo54c$6...@nyheter.SineWave.com>, Dead...@sinewave.com
(DeadPhrog) wrote:
> In article <321345...@usa.net>,
> Eric Matthews/Ruth Blaney/Jonah Rapp <e.mat...@usa.net> wrote:
> >Speaking of jets, anyone know what Hooligan is? And no he's not an F-14
> >or an F-111, just so no one says he is.
>
> I would say he is a modifed F-14.
I think he's an F-22 ATF with F-14 wings. Personally, I woul have
preferred a straight F-22, but then they would have had a much bigger
stretch calling the repaint Jetfire. (not that Hasbro ever let that stop
them, of course...)
-Drogn, who liked the YF-23 better
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DeadPhrog wrote:
>
> In article <321345...@usa.net>,
> Eric Matthews/Ruth Blaney/Jonah Rapp <e.mat...@usa.net> wrote:
> >Speaking of jets, anyone know what Hooligan is? And no he's not an F-14
> >or an F-111, just so no one says he is.
> I would say he is a modifed F-14.
[pulling out my own Hooligan and studying him closely]
Hmmm... oooh... oh my... Oh.. no... no this can't be right... looks like
an F-14... but the tailfins are at the wrong angle... the top's wrong...
[quick glance at Jetfire and two of my korean VF-1J's/terran seekers] he
is. He's a conglomo between an F-14 and a VF-1, isn't he?
That CAN'T be right. Jeese, I've been a civilian for too long :) I give
up, what is he?
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In article <321345...@usa.net>,
Eric Matthews/Ruth Blaney/Jonah Rapp <e.mat...@usa.net> wrote:
>Speaking of jets, anyone know what Hooligan is? And no he's not an F-14
>or an F-111, just so no one says he is.
I would say he is a modifed F-14.
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In article <321504...@usa.net> "e.mat...@usa.net/r.bl...@usa.net/j.rapp"@usa.net writes:
>I just miss the metal and high-quality plastic construction.
So does everyone else.
>I mean
>Sideswipe. THAT was a Transformer. Hound. THAT was a Transformer. Rubber
>tires, fer Cybertron's sake! Painted in the proper colors even!! I don't
>know. Is it just me, or has antone else out there never seen an ORANGE
>tiger-striped jet?
Unrealistic designs didn't start with G2. What about the second wave of
Decepticon jets -- Thrust, Dirge, and Ramjet? Can't find any real-life
equivalents for them. Heck, Skywarp's black-and-purple scheme isn't "real"
either, AFAIK.
But hey, we didn't let the "unrealistic" colors and designs impede our fun,
did we? Why start now?
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In article <4vo54c$6...@nyheter.SineWave.com>,
DeadPhrog <Dead...@sinewave.com> wrote:
>In article <321345...@usa.net>,
> Eric Matthews/Ruth Blaney/Jonah Rapp <e.mat...@usa.net> wrote:
>>Speaking of jets, anyone know what Hooligan is? And no he's not an F-14
>>or an F-111, just so no one says he is.
>
>I would say he is a modifed F-14.
After lengthy consultation of my big book of warplanes, I determined
that Hooligan/Jetfire is a F-22 body and tail with the wings of an F-111.
You can see the advanced stealth design elements on the body (jagged ports
etc) and the distinctive angled hexagonal tail fins. The F-22, however, is
a fixed-wing craft, so they modified the wings to make him look more like
Jetfire. Why they did the hybrid game so carefully that even tiny details
of the F-22 stand out, I don't know. But they did.
Dave Van Domelen, can never remember exactly the designation of Space
Case's plane, but it never got past experimental....
Deon C Thompson
How many of you out there liked Beast Wars from day one? I saw them and went
'new transformers, great'. I really had no problem with them at all, even
the story line and names didn't/don't bother me. It was their names, their
universe. No retrothoughts like 'ugh' or 'what the!?' (miss that comic I do)
Note this doesn't apply to the people who said something along the lines of
'I didn't like them at first but bought some toys blah blah blah'. I'm talking
about those who just saw that they were Transformers and had to have them.
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I lost your email address but I recieved the Scorp parts a few days ago.
Thanks! Their was a cool pin in their (1st their should be there) (Primus,
I'm too lazy to backspace but will write an explanation) but I don't
know if you meant to put it there.
Thanks again!
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In article <4vog4i$s...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
dva...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dave Van Domelen) wrote:
> Dave Van Domelen, can never remember exactly the designation of
> Space Case's plane, but it never got past experimental....
Spacy is also a hybrid, the experimental forward swept plane was
the X-29, and was built from a F-20 fusilage, which has a single engine
and fin. The shape of the fin was kept, but the engine exhausts molded
into the back of the strongback (as opposed to the dumb looking foot
vents) are closest to the YF-23, though they should be mounted at the
beginning of a "trench" exhast that supposedly helps keep IR signature
down. The nose/cockpit is also YF-23, but the shape of the nose/fusilage
join (the chest in robot mode) doesn't look like any plane that I'm
familiar with, except of course the other TFs with similar
transformations.
-Drogn, who could possibly be
considered an authority on Spacecase
msipher
On 25 Aug 1996, Deon C Thompson wrote:
> How many of you out there liked Beast Wars from day one? I saw them and went
> 'new transformers, great'. I really had no problem with them at all, even
> the story line and names didn't/don't bother me. It was their names, their
> universe. No retrothoughts like 'ugh' or 'what the!?' (miss that comic I do)
>
> Note this doesn't apply to the people who said something along the lines of
> 'I didn't like them at first but bought some toys blah blah blah'. I'm talking
> about those who just saw that they were Transformers and had to have them.
Hmmm... depends on how you define "day one". As with many others, I knew
about BW long before they hit the shelves, thanks to some info placed on
the group. I had seen pictures in toy magazines before they appeared...
But, even though I knew they were coming, even the first time I heard the
info, I didn't say "oh man, this is gonna suck!!" I reserved judgement
until I saw some pictures. And what I saw was promising... super-posable,
and with decent animal modes. Okay, the names stunk... the jury was still
out, but leaning towards liking them.
I searched for many weeks for the BWs. Then, one snowy, icy day, with the
office closed, I called up Target to see if they had them. They did!
Despite the weather, I drove to Target to check them out, and see if they
were worth buying.
Oh, who am I kidding. I was going to buy them, plain and simple. Hell, I
bought the mediocre Go-Bot repaints... I walked away from Target with
Dinobot, Tarantulas and Waspinator. One look and I was VERY impressed...
and once they were out of the package, I was even MORE impressed.
So yes, I'd say that I liked BW from the start...
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Then Hopefully They'll Lay Off For A Little Bit... Although I'm Pretty
Certain They'll Have Some New Stuff Out By Christmas" Sipher
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Deon C Thompson (de...@hubcap.clemson.edu) wrote:
> How many of you out there liked Beast Wars from day one? I saw them and went
> 'new transformers, great'. I really had no problem with them at all, even
> the story line and names didn't/don't bother me. It was their names, their
> universe. No retrothoughts like 'ugh' or 'what the!?' (miss that comic I do)
Well, when I first heard about BW, I wasn't too thrilled,
primarily because it was first reported that BW would be dropping the
'Transformers' name. However, as soon as I saw the toys, the "Must Have"
thought process definately took hold. :)
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<snip>
> Dave Van Domelen, can never remember exactly the designation of Space
>Case's plane, but it never got past experimental....
I do belive it would be the YF-12
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> Spacy is also a hybrid, the experimental forward swept plane was
>the X-29, and was built from a F-20 fusilage, which has a single engine
>and fin. The shape of the fin was kept, but the engine exhausts molded
>into the back of the strongback (as opposed to the dumb looking foot
>vents) are closest to the YF-23, though they should be mounted at the
>beginning of a "trench" exhast that supposedly helps keep IR signature
>down. The nose/cockpit is also YF-23, but the shape of the nose/fusilage
>join (the chest in robot mode) doesn't look like any plane that I'm
>familiar with, except of course the other TFs with similar
>transformations.
He does look alot like A YF-12......I think that was the plane they
had attempted to copy here.
LORD Xiphos Rawulf
Maybe it's just me, but SpaceCase looks EXACTLY like those GI-Joe X-Wing
fighters. The color scheme's even the same.
Krailor
>How many of you out there liked Beast Wars from day one?
I must admit that when I first heard about BW I thought "Great more
pathetic crap not worthy to carry the Transformers name." I was a
little let down by the G2's that I had seen (dosen't show does it?)
But I figured I'd at least check them out, so I headed down to
Wall-Mart to look at them. I walked down an isle filled with Power
Rangers Zeo crap and found at the end three rows of BW toys, my first
thought was "Damn, this dosen't look like G2" So I bought Scorponok.
I took him home, opened him up, and it was love at first
playing...missiles that REALLY shoot...a spiffy bee guy in his
claw...a nifty moving stinger...and an extremely poseable body. Now I
have Polar Claw, Blackarachnia, Opp Primal, Megs, and I'll probably
buy Dinobot and mabey 2 others this week (pay week), and I'm still
wating for Tigatron.
Krailor
sva...@gl.umbc.edu
Drogn
> Maybe it's just me, but SpaceCase looks EXACTLY like those GI-Joe X-Wing
> fighters. The color scheme's even the same.
Actually, that's what I thought when I saw him, but the Joe planes
aren't actually any real plane that I know of, and they didn't have chines
on the nose or the thrust vectoring paddles.
-Drogn, who always wanted one of
those GI joe fighters, but only got to play with a friend's
Deon C Thompson
In article <322108...@rahul.net>, xip...@rahul.net wrote:
> Maybe it's just me, but SpaceCase looks EXACTLY like those GI-Joe X-Wing
> fighters. The color scheme's even the same.
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Are you talking about the Conquest x-30 (?). Out of all the Joe stuff
produced the only thing that I ever bothered to get was the Conquest
(which I saw was later repainted black with red fishnet pattern) and
the Cobra Mamba (the twin prop helicoptor).
I still have one missle from the Mamba, which like the Conquest, left
me fractured piece by fractured piece! :)
DeadPhrog
In article <4vokab$d...@hubcap.clemson.edu>,
de...@hubcap.clemson.edu (Deon C Thompson) wrote:
>
>
>How many of you out there liked Beast Wars from day one? I saw them and went
>'new transformers, great'. I really had no problem with them at all, even
>the story line and names didn't/don't bother me. It was their names, their
>universe. No retrothoughts like 'ugh' or 'what the!?' (miss that comic I do)
>
>'I didn't like them at first but bought some toys blah blah blah'. I'm
talking
>about those who just saw that they were Transformers and had to have them.
>
First time I heard of them I throught they were a ripoff (add on TV) and tho I
thought the were kewl, was all set to write Hasbro. Then I saw the (c) Hasbro
in the bottom of the screen, and at the tail-end of the commerical the logo
was shown again, and said TFs in lil letters. I was relevied. I was
determined to find out about them. I almost bought BW Op vs Megs, but saw a
Robotech toy on clearance and haddda buy that 1st.
Drogn
In article <4vre0s$e...@hubcap.clemson.edu>, de...@hubcap.clemson.edu (Deon
C Thompson) wrote:
> In article <322108...@rahul.net>, xip...@rahul.net wrote:
>
> > Maybe it's just me, but SpaceCase looks EXACTLY like those GI-Joe X-Wing
> > fighters. The color scheme's even the same.
>
> --
>
> Are you talking about the Conquest X-30 (?). Out of all the Joe stuff
> produced the only thing that I ever bothered to get was the Conquest
> (which I saw was later repainted black with red fishnet pattern) and
> the Cobra Mamba (the twin prop helicoptor).
Didn't they do a version that was red/maroonish with a light grey
fishnet? I think the storyline was that a bunch of equipment got captured
by on both sides, so Cobra got the (mostly lame-o) Joe gear and the Joes
finally got some of the cool looking Cobra gear. That red with grey
netting was the best color scheme of the whole toy line!
-Drogn, who knows how he's going
to paint his next Spacecase now!
Mike
> Unrealistic designs didn't start with G2. What about the second wave of
> Decepticon jets -- Thrust, Dirge, and Ramjet? Can't find any real-life
> equivalents for them. Heck, Skywarp's black-and-purple scheme isn't "real"
> either, AFAIK.
>
> But hey, we didn't let the "unrealistic" colors and designs impede our fun,
> did we? Why start now?
What is with all you people? The transformers can be any color they want to be.
"lord_xiphos_rawulf"
Deon C Thompson (de...@hubcap.clemson.edu) wrote:
: In article <322108...@rahul.net>, xip...@rahul.net wrote:
: > Maybe it's just me, but SpaceCase looks EXACTLY like those GI-Joe X-Wing
: > fighters. The color scheme's even the same.
: (which I saw was later repainted black with red fishnet pattern) and
: the Cobra Mamba (the twin prop helicoptor).
Probably. I never followed GI-Joe too closely. Not nearly as close as
I've followed TF's :)
The black with the red fishnet. Invert it, you got SpaceCase :)
[My mind must be going (I'm too young!), I seem to remember white
versions with blue fishnet patterns as well.
: I still have one missle from the Mamba, which like the Conquest, left
: me fractured piece by fractured piece! :)
ouch.
/ I'm sorry, but your reality check has bounced
/
/__ORD\/ xip...@cyberspace.org http://www.rahul.net/xiphos
/\iphos xip...@rahul.net http://www.rclabs.com
"lord_xiphos_rawulf"
: aren't actually any real plane that I know of, and they didn't have chines
: on the nose or the thrust vectoring paddles.
Well of course it's not going to be identical. After all, they had to
make it work on the much smaller scale. (I seem to remember the thuirst
paddle thingy's, but then again it's been a while since I've seen one). I
mean, hey, just look at the Cobra Rattlers. A-10 meets Boeing here :)
On a sad note, yo'know how many people actually thought (think!) that
PowerGlide was supposed to be a rattler?
msipher
On 27 Aug 1996 LORD Xiphos Rawulf@.MISSING-HOST-NAME. wrote:
> Drogn (merr...@sover.net) wrote:
> : In article <322108...@rahul.net>, xip...@rahul.net wrote:
> : Actually, that's what I thought when I saw him, but the Joe planes
> : aren't actually any real plane that I know of, and they didn't have chines
> : on the nose or the thrust vectoring paddles.
>
> Well of course it's not going to be identical. After all, they had to
> make it work on the much smaller scale. (I seem to remember the thuirst
> paddle thingy's, but then again it's been a while since I've seen one). I
> mean, hey, just look at the Cobra Rattlers. A-10 meets Boeing here :)
Also, isn't there a law that says that any toy modeled after a vehicle
has to have some changes made so that it's not an exact replica? For
trademark/copyright/whatever reasons...
As for model kits that are exact, don't they have to pay royalties to the
company that made the vehicle?
(I'm not really sure about this, but it does make sense to me...)
> On a sad note, yo'know how many people actually thought (think!) that
> PowerGlide was supposed to be a rattler?
What, "a" rattler, or "the" G.I.Joe Rattler?
M "Got My Deluxe Repaints. Now, I Can stop Wasting Gas Driving Around All
The Retail Places..." Sipher
Slick
Mike <aqui...@epix.net> wrote:
But it is kinda hard to be in hide out if your alt mode is A bright
purple and red jeep (Swindle) or neon green and purple tank (Brawl)
they stand out, defeating one of the reasons for having the alt-mode.
Slick
"Hey you, out there standing in the aisle with itchy feet and fading
smiles, can you hear me?" -Pink Floyd
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DeadPhrog
In article <4vog4i$s...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
dva...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dave Van Domelen) wrote:
>DeadPhrog <Dead...@sinewave.com> wrote:
>>In article <321345...@usa.net>,
>> Eric Matthews/Ruth Blaney/Jonah Rapp <e.mat...@usa.net> wrote:
>>>Speaking of jets, anyone know what Hooligan is? And no he's not an F-14
>>>or an F-111, just so no one says he is.
>>
>>I would say he is a modifed F-14.
>
> After lengthy consultation of my big book of warplanes, I determined
>that Hooligan/Jetfire is a F-22 body and tail with the wings of an F-111.
>You can see the advanced stealth design elements on the body (jagged ports
>etc) and the distinctive angled hexagonal tail fins. The F-22, however, is
>a fixed-wing craft, so they modified the wings to make him look more like
>Jetfire. Why they did the hybrid game so carefully that even tiny details
>of the F-22 stand out, I don't know. But they did.
I know... Hooligan is Hasbro/Takara's best attempt to make a Valkyrie without
getting sued! Yah, I've figured it out! :) You know they can do a nice
Gerwalk mode too...
----====DeadPhrog====---- President and founder of SHATTERED PERSPECTIVES GAMES, Offcial ZZT/MZX NL reporter || Fan of Robotech/Macross (and + & 7) and Transformers. || Author of the fanfic in progress Robotech: Secrets of the Flower. || "I think I'm dumb, maybe just happy..."-Nirvana || I'd give my right arm to be ambidexterous! || Looking for: eps of Macross 7 and TF: Masterforce , the G1 TF Jetfire and the Macross VF1S and VF1J transformable toys. || "Hah!" - ALF
Suzanne M. Ferree
[|sf>Getting closer to the end of these reposts...]
[From sferree Sat Aug 31 10:36:22 1996]
Slick (Sl...@hula.net) wrote:
: Mike <aqui...@epix.net> wrote:
:>> But hey, we didn't let the "unrealistic" colors and designs impede our
:>>fun,
: >> did we? Why start now?
:
:>What is with all you people? The transformers can be any color they want
:>to be.
:
: But it is kinda hard to be in hide out if your alt mode is A bright
: purple and red jeep (Swindle) or neon green and purple tank (Brawl)
|sf>In defense of Swindle (first off it's a red jeep w/ purple
detailing--there's a difference) there are lots of red jeeps here
in Omaha. I see them all the time. Occasionally, jeeps *do* have
detailing as well (granted, it's usually not as obvious...). My
only complaint is that he no longer looks like *Swindle* because
it's too red. (I did get him though when he was marked down to $2,
but that's another story. For the first month of BW, I just
felt like I wanted to buy a recolor of a classic TF & since my
G1 Swindle is metal anyway & missing one of his guns, I got past the
G2 Swindle's red). Then again, to be honest there aren't many brown
jeeps around here. Most jeeps now are either red, blue, black, or
occasionally green or yellow.
On the other hand, a neon green tank *is* unrealistic--you're
right, but it's still cool. They don't sell him anymore though &
no one around here ever marked him down (In contrast, I used to
see the Aerialbots marked down all the time, except for Silverbolt
whom I only saw marked down once). When I get recolors of old molds,
I'm not going to buy it unless either 1, I don't ready have it or
2, he's marked down to what I consider a reasonable price.
--
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