Netflix Transformers G1

[Ultra Magnotron]

I took a look at G1 on Netflix and disvovered
that the episodes are subtitled.

They're pretty good quality too. Makes buying
The series on DVD kind of pointless, if you're a
Netflix subscriber.

[Optim_1]

I checked out Netflix, and only Transformers 3: Dark of Moon is
listed. Could you explain how to find the G1 episodes in Netflix or is
my problem the fact that I am located in Canada?

[Ultra Magnotron]

On 5/8/2012 11:34 AM, Optim_1 wrote:
> I checked out Netflix, and only Transformers 3: Dark of Moon is
> listed. Could you explain how to find the G1 episodes in Netflix or is
> my problem the fact that I am located in Canada?

All I did was search for "Transformers" and G1 came right up.
Maybe it's not available in Canada?

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http://www.box.com/s/931509f9d6b565d675d8

My Transformers Prime Calendar:
http://tfprime.timeshout.com/?how=month&std=2012-03-07&end=2012-03-21

[Optim_1]

On 8 mai, 14:38, Ultra Magnotron <ultra.magnot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/8/2012 11:34 AM, Optim_1 wrote:
>
> > I checked out Netflix, and only Transformers 3: Dark of Moon is
> > listed. Could you explain how to find the G1 episodes in Netflix or is
> > my problem the fact that  I am located in Canada?
>
> All I did was search for "Transformers" and G1 came right up.
> Maybe it's not available in Canada?
>

I think that is the best possible explanation.

Since there are already subtitles available on Netflix, there is no
need for you to do them if you don't want to.

Can you or someone else record all the G1 episodes off Netflix and
send them to me? I will pay for the DVDs and time effort, of course.
Or is it illegal?

[Ultra Magnotron]

On 5/8/2012 1:07 PM, Optim_1 wrote:
> Can you or someone else record all the G1 episodes off Netflix and
> send them to me? I will pay for the DVDs and time effort, of course.
> Or is it illegal?

Meh. Legal or not, I'd do it. Unfortunately I'm not sure how I'd do it.
If I had my old computer, which was also served as a great DVR, there'd
be no problem. I'd hook up my Blu-ray player to the video inputs and
record the episodes directly to my hard rive as they played.

Sadly, that computer is dead. It's been dead for some time now and I
haven't replaced it. There may be another way, though. If I can
figure it out I'll let you know.

[Ultra Magnotron]

I just want to add that after watching the subtitles
on Netflix, I don't like them. When I started the
G1 subtitles project I started to read up on how
they need to be handled for television braodcasts
and I'm now aware of when rules are broken. I see
Hulu break so many rules it's ridiculous. The
average person probably can't tell and doesn't care,
but I do.

Netflix seems to take an over precautious approach.
What I mean that is, when Bumblebee is on screen, but
turned away from the camera, they will label his
dialogue as spoken by him. You don't need to label it.
You simply add the hyphen symbol in front of his
dialogue and people will understand that someone
else is talking, which character can be determined
through context. People aren't dumb. They understand
a lot through the context.

I don't mean this to come across as negative. I think
it's great that the entire series is now subtitled for
the deaf and hearing impaired. This should have happened
years ago, and good for Netflix stepping up and taking
much needed action. All I'm saying is that they could have
tried to treat the audience as if it's a bit more
intelligent, in some cases. That's all.

They did a great job in the areas where subtitling was
a bit difficult for me. Multiple characters talking
at once, and at a fast pace, was done really well.
Good on them for that!

[Optim_1]

On 9 mai, 14:11, Ultra Magnotron <ultra.magnot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I just want to add that after watching the subtitles
> on Netflix, I don't like them. When I started the
> G1 subtitles project I started to read up on how
> they need to be handled for television braodcasts
> and I'm now aware of when rules are broken. I see
> Hulu break so many rules it's ridiculous. The
> average person probably can't tell and doesn't care,
> but I do.
>

That sounds like you are going to continue to subtitle the G1
episodes. That is great news. I LOVE your subtitles and will look
foward to all 97 episodes properly subtitled. Thanks!

This is probably too much to ask but please please please find a way
to EMBED the subtitles into the episodes, if you can. That would be
very convenient. This is better than external subtitles which have to
be manually inserted into each episode and synched. Doing this for all
97 episodes would be annoying.

[SBlackfoot]

"Optim_1" wrote in message
news:79644f4e-2777-44fa...@35g2000yqq.googlegroups.com...

> I checked out Netflix, and only Transformers 3: Dark of Moon is
> listed. Could you explain how to find the G1 episodes in Netflix or is
> my problem the fact that I am located in Canada?

Same problem here, it must be a Canadian thing. Apparently we don't like
Transformers. :^(

[Ultra Magnotron]

On 5/9/2012 4:05 PM, SBlackfoot wrote:
> Same problem here, it must be a Canadian thing. Apparently we don't like
> Transformers. :^(

Well, do you guys think it may come to Canada eventually? How often do
Netflix things come to the U.S. and not Canada?

It can't be that often... can it?

[...Also Known As Thunder]

Ultra Magnotron wrote:
> Well, do you guys think it may come to Canada eventually? How often do
> Netflix things come to the U.S. and not Canada?
>
> It can't be that often... can it?
>

I'm told the U.S. Netflix is a *lot* better then the Canadian one as far
as content is concerned. Also, Hasbro cares primarily about the U.S.
market apparently (HTS doesn't ship here and I don't think we can stream
from the Hub website either--although I may be wrong about that last one).

t.k.

[Velvet Glove]

On May 10, 2:47 am, "...Also Known As Thunder" <decep...@shaw.ca>
wrote:

I imagine with Netflix it's a question of obtaining the rights to show
it in another country, and whether that's worth the extra cost for
them.

I had a look at this today--didn't actually watch any episodes, but I
was impressed at how easy it is to grab whichever one you want from
any season without having to put in a DVD. I think the DVD extras are
still worth it in some cases, but I never did get Season 2 on DVD, so
I'm delighted to be readily able to watch those episodes without
having to rely on youtube.

Velvet Glove (at least as long as I'm in the States, but that's likely
to be another three or four years anyway)

[Zobovor]

On May 9, 3:40 pm, Optim_1 <opti...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> That sounds like you are going to continue to subtitle the G1
> episodes. That is great news. I LOVE your subtitles and will look
> foward to all 97 episodes properly subtitled. Thanks!

Psst! It's 98 episodes. (Just because "Carnage in C-Minor" was
horrible doesn't mean it doesn't count. I mean, that's just not
fair.)

With that said, my four-year-old is a big fan of Netflix since he
actually knows how to work the Wii remote. He's watching "Dinobot
Island" part 1 as I type this. I've got to say that I love the fact
that the episodes play without those obnoxious commercial bumpers. I
haven't gotten to see the episodes like that since I was taping them
off the Sci-Fi Channel.

I, too, hope to see you continue the subtitles project despite this
apparent setback.


Zob

[Irrellius Spamticon king of the Potato people]

On May 10, 1:47 am, "...Also Known As Thunder" <decep...@shaw.ca>
wrote:

Also, Hasbro cares primarily about the U.S.
> market apparently (HTS doesn't ship here and I don't think we can stream
> from the Hub website either--although I may be wrong about that last one).
>
> t.k.

And yet Canada got the full wave of 1st edition Prime toys, where here
they never showed, you also got Unicron last year...

[Ultra Magnotron]

On 5/17/2012 9:54 AM, Irrellius Spamticon king of the Potato people wrote:
> And yet Canada got the full wave of 1st edition Prime toys, where here
> they never showed, you also got Unicron last year...

I saw Bumblebee and Arcee at Toys R Us. I didn't buy them because I
had already ordered then from TRU.com, so I left them there for
other collectors.

The 1st edition deluxes BB, Screamer and Arce, did make it to the
U.S. but so few got shipped I could understand how many collectors
never saw them at all. Hasbro screwed us over on that one.

One day I shall sell my 1st editions. I just don't want to let
them go yet.

--
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http://www.box.com/s/931509f9d6b565d675d8

My Transformers Blog:
http://www.elden.co/transformers

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[Optim_1]

On 17 mai, 12:06, Zobovor <zm...@aol.com> wrote:
> On May 9, 3:40 pm, Optim_1 <opti...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > That sounds like you are going to continue to subtitle the G1
> > episodes. That is great news. I LOVE your subtitles and will look
> > foward to all 97 episodes properly subtitled. Thanks!
>
> Psst!  It's 98 episodes.  (Just because "Carnage in C-Minor" was
> horrible doesn't mean it doesn't count.  I mean, that's just not
> fair.)
>

I stand corrected. I was not counting the Movie but I checked and it
was still 98 episodes even without the Movie. Ooops.

I liked "Carnage in C-Minor" because the story was quirky. Oh, well,
to each its own.

I thought you might like the episode because of all the errors that
could be mined as new characters instead. Character profiles and fan
fiction could be written up on the Micromaster Constructicons or
Zombie Brawn! Or would that be masochism?

> With that said, my four-year-old is a big fan of Netflix since he
> actually knows how to work the Wii remote.  He's watching "Dinobot
> Island" part 1 as I type this.  I've got to say that I love the fact
> that the episodes play without those obnoxious commercial bumpers.  I
> haven't gotten to see the episodes like that since I was taping them
> off the Sci-Fi Channel.
>

I like commercial bumbers because they are part of the feel. Writers
of the episodes had the commercial bumpers in mind. They are also
unique and well done.Sometimes they are even hard to edit out. I
remember an episode (don't know which one) in which the Autobots fell
off a waterfall after an Insecticon attack. The commercial bumpers
came on and then the Autobots were shown falling again but from a
different angle. That would have been hard to edit out. I wonder how
Netflix did it.

> I, too, hope to see you continue the subtitles project despite this
> apparent setback.
>

Yes. It would be great too!

[Onslaught Six]

On May 18, 9:57 am, Optim_1 <opti...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I like commercial bumbers because they are part of the feel.  Writers
> of the episodes had the commercial bumpers in mind. They are also
> unique and well done.Sometimes they are even hard to edit out. I
> remember an episode (don't know which one) in which the Autobots fell
> off a waterfall after an Insecticon attack. The commercial bumpers
> came on and then the Autobots were shown falling again but from a
> different angle. That would have been hard to edit out. I wonder how
> Netflix did it.

Typically with shows like this, they just fade out, and then fade in
the next scene. It's still blatantly obvious the break is there, but
without the "We now return to Transformers!" bit.

[Ultra Magnotron]

I have to appologixe for the delay in subtitles. Life gets
busy at times. I'm going to try and get two episodes done
Saturday, and hopefully another on Sunday.

I'm trying to get season 1 finished asap.

--
The Transformers (G1) Subtitles:
http://www.box.com/s/931509f9d6b565d675d8

[Zobovor]

On May 18, 12:44 pm, Ultra Magnotron <ultra.magnot...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> I have to appologixe for the delay in subtitles. Life gets
> busy at times. I'm going to try and get two episodes done
> Saturday, and hopefully another on Sunday.

Whip-crack! Faster! Faster, I say!


Zob

[Zobovor]

On May 18, 7:57 am, Optim_1 <opti...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I thought you might like the episode because of all the errors that
> could be mined as new characters instead. Character profiles and fan
> fiction could be written up on the Micromaster Constructicons or
> Zombie Brawn! Or would that be masochism?

I actually did write a Zombie Brawn fanfic. Called "Army of the
Undead." It's mercifully short.

Oddly enough, "Carnage in C-Minor" didn't produce as many generic
background characters as you might suspect. Most just egregious
mistakes, like showing Hot Spot and Defensor together at the same
time, or showing Devastator the same height as Soundwave. I think
it's because there were basically only five Transformers prominently
featured in the episode (Magnus, Broadside, Blaster, Galvatron, and
Soundwave) so there were far fewer characters to potentially get
wrong.

With that said, I actually do love that episode. The third season did
away with so many of my favorite characters from 1984-85 that I was
thrilled out of my mind to see Soundwave get a starring episode.

> I like commercial bumbers because they are part of the feel.  Writers
> of the episodes had the commercial bumpers in mind.

Well, they certainly had the commercial *breaks* in mind, but not the
bumpers, necessarily. Me, I just don't think they need to be part of
the viewing experience. On the DVD somewhere, sure, as extras that
you can watch if you choose, but not permanently embedded into the
episodes. The only reason they even exist was because there was an
FCC mandate to create a clear delineation between the programming
content and the commercials, ostensibly so kids didn't get confused
and think that characters from their favorite shows were trying to
sell them breakfast cereal or something. (If you ask me, kids aren't
nearly that stupid.)

I actually have a very early memory of the first commercial bumpers I
noticed. I was probably about six or seven and I remember watching
the Woody Woodpecker cartoon, and a black title card came up with
white lettering that said, "Woody Woodpecker will return after these
messages." I remember being confused because they had never done that
before and it struck me as very strange.

> Sometimes they are even hard to edit out.

Back when the original TMNT cartoon was on the air, I taped every
episode I could get my hands on. I really disliked when they repeated
footage after the commercial break, though, so there was a list of
episodes to which I would try my hand at some tricky editing whenever
they came on. (I was editing in real time—hitting the "pause" button
on the VCR during the commercials at just the right time and hoping it
looked good in playback. I got really, really good at it.) I would
show off my edited episodes to friends and family, and often they
couldn't even tell that there had been a commercial break where I
spliced scenes together.

The cheapest gimmick was when they showed you something *different*
after the commercial break, as if viewers were too dumb to remember
what had happened two minutes and thirty seconds ago. Like, the
killer alien robot blasts the Turtle Van, then a couple of
advertisements for Skip-It and Yo-Yo Balls, and then we find out that
the Turtles "really" jumped out of the van before the killer alien
robot shot at them. Yeah, that's not what you just showed us, jerks.


Zob

[Irrellius Spamticon king of the Potato people]

On May 19, 12:13 am, Zobovor <zm...@aol.com> wrote:
> Back when the original TMNT cartoon was on the air, I taped every
> episode I could get my hands on.  I really disliked when they repeated
> footage after the commercial break, though, so there was a list of
> episodes to which I would try my hand at some tricky editing whenever
> they came on.  (I was editing in real time—hitting the "pause" button
> on the VCR during the commercials at just the right time and hoping it
> looked good in playback.  I got really, really good at it.)  I would
> show off my edited episodes to friends and family, and often they
> couldn't even tell that there had been a commercial break where I
> spliced scenes together.

I used to pause, then if I missed the proper pause, rewind, play, slow
it down, then pause at just the right time and start up the recording
and hope it wasn't a short commercial.
Did it with TMNT, the1st MOTU series, Smurfs, and G1

[Velvet Glove]

This is also how American shows aired on the BBC which doesn't have
commercials. As a child, I just got used to it... it became a
stylistic thing: every time the characters got into peril, there'd be
a dramatic fade to black, and then the last few seconds of events
would replay from a different perspective. It wasn't until we came to
the States when I was nine that I realised those were commercial
breaks.

Velvet Glove (who also prefers the shows without the bumpers, which is
why I've previously bought the UK DVDs)

[...Also Known As Thunder]

Irrellius Spamticon king of the Potato people wrote:

> And yet Canada got the full wave of 1st edition Prime toys, where here
> they never showed, you also got Unicron last year...

Some came to the U.S. in small amounts apparently. Also, Amazon.com had
Unicron as an exclusive (I got mine through there and then realized TRU
here was going to have them too. Doh! :)

t.k.