Blue Bluestreak myth in simple terms:)
Blue-Jackal and her box-o-Skywarp:)
On the weekends I work in a cafe with some rather odd people:)
The two guys in the kitchen (Ally and Lee) always make Transformer jokes
when I'm around.
They're a sarcastic couple of guys but they mean well.
Anyway, this week their non stop fun was to hover around me saying that
if they won the lottery they'd go and buy the rarest Transformer ever
and burn it in front of me.
I said that they'd never find a certain rare one.
They asked why, what is it?
I tried to explain the blue Bluestreak myth to them but they kept on and
on about "But how do you know it's rare?", "Where is it?" etc etc.
This kept on for an hour and a half:)
So, can anyone here help me by explaining the blue Bluestreak myth in
extremely *simple* terms so I can print it up and give it to Ally and
Lee when I next see them?:)
Puuulllleeeeeeease!!
They're doing my brain in!:)
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in catalogs. It was never realesed in Transformer packaging.
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the same toy avaliable in several colors. When Hasbro bought the rights to
release the toy they used a blue version of Bluestreak for the catalog
pictures, but released the toy in silver instead. The differences between
the catalog and released toy have led many to speculate that at least two
blue Bluestreaks, possibly more, were made for the Transformers toy line.
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Blue-Jackal and her box-o-Skywarp:) <An...@warriorprincess.demon.co.uk> wrote
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> Oooookay, this is an odd one:)
> On the weekends I work in a cafe with some rather odd people:)
Ahhhh, just like A-Level Technology lessons!
> Anyway, this week their non stop fun was to hover around me saying that
> if they won the lottery they'd go and buy the rarest Transformer ever
> and burn it in front of me.
Bwah! Fools!
> I said that they'd never find a certain rare one.
>
> They asked why, what is it?
>
> I tried to explain the blue Bluestreak myth to them but they kept on >and
> on about "But how do you know it's rare?", "Where is it?" etc etc.
>
> This kept on for an hour and a half:)
Hehe. I know someone just like that...
> So, can anyone here help me by explaining the blue Bluestreak myth in
> extremely *simple* terms so I can print it up and give it to Ally and
> Lee when I next see them?:)
>
> Puuulllleeeeeeease!!
> They're doing my brain in!:)
There's a handy little FAQling at:
http://astro.bu.edu/~srstoneb/tf/
And here's the relevant FAQ section...
Was there ever a blue Bluestreak toy, like on the box?
Many TransFans state that they can vividly remember either
owning a blue Bluestreak toy or seeing one first-hand many
years ago. While the pictures in G1 catalogues and in
Bluestreak's instructions show a silver car with blue sides,
it is now generally accepted that these were photos of a
Diaclone version of the toy, previously released by Takara in
Japan. Promotional photos of that sort are almost always
taken of prototypes, so there's no reason to insist that a
toy *just* like those in the pictures was ever released to
the public. (Other Diaclone variations of the mold include a
black car with silver sides, which matches Bluestreak's
portrayal in the cartoon and comic, and a police car version,
which we know as Prowl.)
To this day, no one has been able to publicly verify the
existence of a blue Bluestreak toy *released as a
Transformer*. All signs point to the conclusion that the
only Bluestreak ever released in TF packaging was of the
silver-only sort. The only evidence which would convince the
TransFan community otherwise would be a factory-sealed box
with the toy inside. If you come upon a loose blue
Bluestreak in your travels, carefully consider that it may
simply be a Diaclone. (I have personally held one in
*excellent* condition that even had an Autobot insignia
sticker applied to its hood. But, that doesn't mean much.
Anyone could have applied that label; heck, I used to put
'bot and 'con stickers on my Tonka GoBots, but that doesn't
make them TFs.)
Burt Ward has written a FAQlet on this topic which delves a
little deeper into things. It can be found on the TF FAQ
Homepage.
I hope that helps!
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possible that a blue Bluestreak exists also. I remember surfing TF
sites once and stumbling upon a page by a fan from the Netherlands who
produced not one but two red Tracks (one MISB). I used to believe blue
Bluestreak in TF packaging did not exist, but after seeing those red
Tracks, I am not so sure. My point is that if it did ever exist, blue
Bluestreak in TF packaging was probably released overseas, most likely
the Netherlands and in extremely small quantities.
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OK a blue Bluestreak exists (only one that was in the picture) It would
have been a diaclone with TF stickers. I still just want the blue diaclone
version.
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> Just as a red Tracks exists, I believe it is at least remotely
> possible that a blue Bluestreak exists also. I remember surfing TF
Ehhhh... I dunno. It's no secret that the red Tracks exists... that one
isn't a legend like the blue Bluestreak. Also, IIRC, the red Tracks was
released in Europe well past 1984 at a time that Bluestreak was not also
in release. (I don't have web access right now, so I can't check the toy
or variations lists for confirmation.)
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Steve-o Stonebraker wrote:
> crazy...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > Just as a red Tracks exists, I believe it is at least remotely
> > possible that a blue Bluestreak exists also. I remember surfing TF
>
> Ehhhh... I dunno. It's no secret that the red Tracks exists... that one
> isn't a legend like the blue Bluestreak. Also, IIRC, the red Tracks was
> released in Europe well past 1984 at a time that Bluestreak was not also
> in release. (I don't have web access right now, so I can't check the toy
> or variations lists for confirmation.)
As I've said before, I'd maintain that there was *one* true Blue Bluestreak in
existence at some time: namely, the one that Hasbro took a picture of for the
1984 catalogue. It had TF labels, was next to other 'real' TFs, and the
catalogue labeled it "Bluestreak". As far as Hasbro was concerned, that blue
toy was a Bluestreak--and that's good enough for me. That *one* individual toy
used in that particuluar photo shoot was a Blue Streak.
Wonder what happened to that single true blue one, anyway?
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Túrin
> As I've said before, I'd maintain that there was *one* true Blue Bluestreak in
> existence at some time: namely, the one that Hasbro took a picture of for the
> 1984 catalogue. It had TF labels, was next to other 'real' TFs, and the
> catalogue labeled it "Bluestreak". As far as Hasbro was concerned, that blue
> toy was a Bluestreak--and that's good enough for me. That *one* individual toy
> used in that particuluar photo shoot was a Blue Streak.
>
> Wonder what happened to that single true blue one, anyway?
Two, you mean. Vehicle mode and robot mode, right next to each other.
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>As I've said before, I'd maintain that there was *one* true Blue
>Bluestreak in existence at some time: namely, the one that Hasbro
>took a picture of for the 1984 catalogue. It had TF labels, was next
>to other 'real' TFs, and the catalogue labeled it "Bluestreak". As far
>as Hasbro was concerned, that blue toy was a Bluestreak--and
>that's good enough for me. That *one* individual toy used in that
>particuluar photo shoot was a Blue Streak.
Well, I see your point, but in all likelihood (as Steve-o has said) it was
probably a Diaclone toy with Transformers stickers applied. I guess it's the
difference between me doing that and someone from Hasbro doing that, eh? :)
Besides, the catalogs are hardly the be-all and end-all of Transformerdom.
Perceptor and Astrotrain show up in funky colors in the 1985 catalog, but they
were never released as Transformers in those styles to my knowledge.
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Philip Ayres
> Perceptor and Astrotrain show up in funky colors in the 1985 catalog, but
they
> were never released as Transformers in those styles to my knowledge.
The Japanese Catalogs show a diffrent version of Godbomber which seems to
have sockets on the shoulders. This is way differently to the released
toy. Anyone know the location of scans of both ?
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> The Japanese Catalogs show a diffrent version of Godbomber which seems to
> have sockets on the shoulders. This is way differently to the released
> toy. Anyone know the location of scans of both ?
The (presumed) prototype (from an early Masterforce exclusives insert--big!):
http://www.fortunecity.com/lavendar/manwood/484/TF/88-E2.jpg
The final and only released version (from box top):
http://www.fortunecity.com/lavendar/manwood/484/TF/GB4.jpg
The first one was also in an early Masterforce catalog, BTW.
It's distinctive for having the red side flaps connected to
the front vehicle piece; the final version still shows the
diagonal cutaway on the bottom leg pieces where those red flaps
would have had met them if the flaps had been there.
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> Philip Ayres wrote:
>
> > The Japanese Catalogs show a diffrent version of Godbomber which seems
to
> > have sockets on the shoulders. This is way differently to the released
> > toy. Anyone know the location of scans of both ?
>
> The (presumed) prototype (from an early Masterforce exclusives
insert--big!):
> http://www.fortunecity.com/lavendar/manwood/484/TF/88-E2.jpg
> The final and only released version (from box top):
> http://www.fortunecity.com/lavendar/manwood/484/TF/GB4.jpg
>
That's a pity, the unreleased one looks much nicer.
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Devvi
> Just as a red Tracks exists, I believe it is at least remotely
>possible that a blue Bluestreak exists also. I remember surfing TF
>sites once and stumbling upon a page by a fan from the Netherlands who
>produced not one but two red Tracks (one MISB). I used to believe blue
>Bluestreak in TF packaging did not exist, but after seeing those red
>Tracks, I am not so sure. My point is that if it did ever exist, blue
>Bluestreak in TF packaging was probably released overseas, most likely
>the Netherlands and in extremely small quantities.
I was doubting whether to reply to this Blue Bluestreak thing or not,
but I couldn't resist:
Here in The Netherlands we got some really strange varations:
- red Tracks
- Ratchet with Diaclone inserts
- Blue Cliffjumper
- Blue and yellow Windcharger
- Blue Huffer
Some of these were imported from other countries (Mexico). I've seen
multiple toys from each of the variants mentioned, but I've never seen
a blue Bluestreak. So, I doubt that the blue Bluestreak was released
here.
Greetings,
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Devvi
> My friend said he had a blue bluestreak from America. Is it false memories?
Probably, yes. The reason I was doubting about posting my first reply
is because I did not want to start another blue Bluestreak thread (too
late now). To keep it short: there is no evidence that a blue
Bluestreak toy was sold in Transformer packaging.
Steve L.K. Macrocranios
> Just as a red Tracks exists, I believe it is at least remotely
> possible that a blue Bluestreak exists also. I remember surfing TF
> sites once and stumbling upon a page by a fan from the Netherlands who
> produced not one but two red Tracks (one MISB). I used to believe blue
> Bluestreak in TF packaging did not exist, but after seeing those red
> Tracks, I am not so sure. My point is that if it did ever exist, blue
> Bluestreak in TF packaging was probably released overseas, most likely
> the Netherlands and in extremely small quantities.
>
>
I still maintain it is possible there was a retail Transformers blue Bluestreak, I'm not sure of what circumstances would make it most likely but it probably was some geographically remote European country with one of the non-Hasbro distributors. Maybe one store in Finland had them for one week or something like that. I don't completely discount the possibility. Heck, there was a black Tracks so who knows. I'm not embarrassed or ashamed of any crazy conspiracy theory I have ever come up with.
Onslaught Six
> I still maintain it is possible there was a retail Transformers blue Bluestreak, I'm not sure of what circumstances would make it most likely but it probably was some geographically remote European country with one of the non-Hasbro distributors. Maybe one store in Finland had them for one week or something like that. I don't completely discount the possibility. Heck, there was a black Tracks so who knows. I'm not embarrassed or ashamed of any crazy conspiracy theory I have ever come up with.
company, and the only reason they ever had red Tracks (no Black Tracks
was ever released in TF packaging until the reissue era, only
Diaclone) was because Red Tracks was released in the Joustra Diaclone
line.
Here's a fascinating series of articles on it:
http://20thcenturytoycollector.com/mb-transformers-part-4/
Zobovor
> I still maintain it is possible there was a retail Transformers blue Bluestreak, I'm not sure of what circumstances would
> make it most likely but it probably was some geographically remote European country with one of the non-Hasbro distributors.
> Maybe one store in Finland had them for one week or something like that. I don't completely discount the possibility.
pervasive was because of all the circumstantial evidence (the box art,
the photos in his instructions, the Hasbro toy catalog, and the fact
that he's named BLUEstreak fercryinoutloud), not because all these
folks visited Helsinki one week in 1984 and saw one on the shelf at
the toy store. There may very well have been a blue Bluestreak (and,
strictly speaking, we know there was at least one of them—the Diaclone
toy that Hasbro slapped Autobot stickers on and photographed, by merit
of the fact that they called this toy "Bluestreak") but that's not why
all those people back in the day remembered there being one.
There are always going to be certain mysteries forever associated with
G1, just because we didn't have the Internet back then. It used to be
that obscure countries were always the go-to explanation for rare and
unusual toy variations, because most American fans had never visited
those countries and knowledge about the toy line in Japan or the
United Kingdom or wherever was fairly limited. Nowdays, there really
are no obscure countries or toy releases. Look at it this way—in
1984, nobody knew about Bumblejumper, but in 1998, everybody knew
about Rally's/Checker's Rhinox.
Zob
Steve L.K. Macrocranios
> Except that all of the "non-Hasbro distributors" were, in fact, one
> company, and the only reason they ever had red Tracks (no Black Tracks
> was ever released in TF packaging until the reissue era, only
> Diaclone) was because Red Tracks was released in the Joustra Diaclone
> line.
Travoltron
> I guess it's possible. The reason the blue Bluestreak myth was so
> pervasive was because of all the circumstantial evidence (the box art,
> the photos in his instructions, the Hasbro toy catalog, and the fact
> that he's named BLUEstreak fercryinoutloud)
had one. (Of course always with some excuse why he didn't have it
anymore.) And back in those days, sometimes word-of-mouth was all we had.
A friend of mine told me there were new Starscream toys that came with a
Dr. Arkeville. So I was always looking for that version (that didn't
actually exist) and never got a Starscream until the '90s. I suppose
it's possible my friend saw a kid with a Diaclone version and mistook
the Diaclone pilot for Arkeville, but it's more likely he was just lying.