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Derik 'Inessi' Smith

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May 27, 2006, 12:34:58 AM5/27/06
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Okay, I've always heard that we never knew for sure when Optimus Primal
was pulled from in the BW2 movie, but there'd been some theories it was
around his 'death' in the transwarp explosion (since Japan kept that
cliffhanger hangign for 2 years.)

I ran across this in the back of one of my various BW2 movie guidebooks
though:
http://members.aol.com/regenesis0/lioconvoyinemminentdomain2.jpg

Primal and Lioconvoy, and the Transwarp explosion. The two together
makes me wonder what it says. Is this when Primal was puleld from, or
jsut random backgroudn recap? "We last saw Primal when..."?

-Derik

Doug Dlin

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May 27, 2006, 5:54:09 PM5/27/06
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Just an ad for film comic version of the three movie segments, which
comes with a BW glossary, actor interviews, character design images and
more. The two images shown are there because each appears in one of the
segments. No connection is made between them in the text.

Doug Dlin
apcog at hotmail.com

Xgriml...@aol.com

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May 28, 2006, 2:56:44 AM5/28/06
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Seeing this thread reminds me I've got to see that BW2ND Movie. After
all I've got all the Bw2nd,neo & TFCR cartoon episodes.

Derik 'Inessi' Smith

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May 29, 2006, 5:09:54 AM5/29/06
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Doug wrote:
>Just an ad for film comic version of the three movie segments

Aww, nothing interesting.
How about this?
http://members.aol.com/regenesis0/eggformers2.jpg
It's the only... stuff I've found anywhere relating tot he eggbeasts.

-Derik

Doug Dlin

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May 30, 2006, 1:13:07 AM5/30/06
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Pretty generic, I'm afraid.

The good Egg Beasts are brave despite their small size and act mainly as
a group to support the Cybertrons. Each excels in his respective area
of combat specialty: hand-to-hand, aerial, and high-speed.

The dark Egg Beasts have the same structures as the good ones. They act
as a covert vanguard of destruction to help realize Megatron's ambitions.

Hmm...well, the dark oval at top left notes they have the longest
service record of any beast warriors--probably a reference to the toy
origins.

Derik 'Inessi' Smith

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May 30, 2006, 6:15:36 AM5/30/06
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> http://members.aol.com/regenesis0/eggformers2.jpg
> It's the only... stuff I've found anywhere relating tot he eggbeasts.
>
>Pretty generic, I'm afraid.

Hey, that's still better than anything Iv'e ever heard for these guys!

>The good Egg Beasts are brave despite their small size and act mainly as
>a group to support the Cybertrons. Each excels in his respective area
>of combat specialty: hand-to-hand, aerial, and high-speed.

Specialties and team dynamics.
Small size- meaning these are small even bw BW standards. Which
basically means they're Mini-con size. (Since Rattrap is human sized,
and mini-cons are half that.)
That doesnt' work with the mini-car scaled Eggbot from The War Within,
but it's nto the first time one toy mold has been made to represent
multiple unrelated 'classes' of robot, in-fiction.

Does it actually use a gender-specific his?

>The dark Egg Beasts have the same structures as the good ones. They act
>as a covert vanguard of destruction to help realize Megatron's ambitions.

Covert sabotage unit that answers directly to Megatron.

>Hmm...well, the dark oval at top left notes they have the longest
>service record of any beast warriors--probably a reference to the toy
>origins.

These pages are not a double-page spread, and it's on the Cybertron
side do you think that age-classifaction applies to just the
Cybertrons, or all of them colelctively? ...probably both, by layout.

Thank you doug. It's not much, but it's at least SOME background info
on a sextet of toys that previously were just names!

-Derik

Doug Dlin

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May 30, 2006, 9:10:10 AM5/30/06
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On May 30, 2006, Derik 'Inessi' Smith wrote:

>>> http://members.aol.com/regenesis0/eggformers2.jpg
>>>
[snip]

>>The good Egg Beasts are brave despite their small size and act mainly as
>>a group to support the Cybertrons. Each excels in his respective area
>>of combat specialty: hand-to-hand, aerial, and high-speed.
>
>
> Specialties and team dynamics.
> Small size- meaning these are small even bw BW standards.

Possibly. Or maybe they're not UNUSUALLY small by BW standards, just
small, like Bumblebee's small by G1 standards. So they'd be on a par
with Rattrap.

> Does it actually use a gender-specific his?

No, that was an English default-gender "his". It didn't feel right
using "its" there.

>>The dark Egg Beasts have the same structures as the good ones. They act
>>as a covert vanguard of destruction to help realize Megatron's ambitions.
>
>
> Covert sabotage unit that answers directly to Megatron.

Not necessarily. Any of the loyal Destrons technically work to help
achieve Megatron's ambitions. Of course, with the loose command
structure we've been shown in most TF fiction, just about any Decepticon
can answer directly to Megatron.

>>Hmm...well, the dark oval at top left notes they have the longest
>>service record of any beast warriors--probably a reference to the toy
>>origins.
>
> These pages are not a double-page spread, and it's on the Cybertron
> side do you think that age-classifaction applies to just the
> Cybertrons, or all of them colelctively? ...probably both, by layout.

I can see from the cut-off page numbers that these were still two
sequential pages, so I'd say it still applies to both.

Lars Eriksson

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May 30, 2006, 9:03:57 AM5/30/06
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"Doug Dlin" <ap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> The dark Egg Beasts have the same structures as the good ones. They act
> as a covert vanguard of destruction to help realize Megatron's ambitions.

That's a bit odd, considering there is no Megatron in BW2.

--
Lars Eriksson, grounds...@ntfa.net
Founder of the Nordic TransFans Association (NTFA)
NTFA home page: http://www.ntfa.net

Doug Dlin

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May 30, 2006, 1:49:08 PM5/30/06
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On May 30, 2006, Lars Eriksson wrote:

> "Doug Dlin" <ap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>The dark Egg Beasts have the same structures as the good ones. They act
>>as a covert vanguard of destruction to help realize Megatron's ambitions.
>
> That's a bit odd, considering there is no Megatron in BW2.

The Egg Beasts aren't listed as BW2 characters, either. They just came
up in this BW2-related thread from mild topic drift.

Kil - Michael McCarthy

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May 30, 2006, 1:46:08 PM5/30/06
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"Derik 'Inessi' Smith" <ReGen...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> Small size- meaning these are small even bw BW standards. Which
> basically means they're Mini-con size. (Since Rattrap is human sized,
> and mini-cons are half that.)

What Mini-Cons are half the size of the humans?


-Kil
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Derik 'Inessi' Smith

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May 31, 2006, 2:46:49 AM5/31/06
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I had someone have to remind me these guys were released as vanilla BW
toys, not BW2. I'm used to thinking of Shadow Panther and the botcon
pair as the only japanese additions to the Beast Wars line.

For what it's worth, the 2 pages I scannes here were from a BW2 book.
But they seem to make clear, yes, the eggbeasts are from Beast Wars.
So... neat!

-Derik

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