OT: StupidBay
GIAction
Do you believe this?
Mike
Faster, more secure checkout experience
Paper payments end this October
Beginning late October 2008, all items listed on eBay.com must be paid for using one of
the following approved payment options:
* Direct credit or debit card payment via a merchant credit card account
* PayPal
* ProPay
* Payment on pick-up
Paper payment methods such as checks and money orders will no longer be accepted on eBay.com.
By January 2009, all approved electronic payment methods will be integrated into eBay
checkout. For example, buyers will be able to enter their credit card number directly into
eBay checkout, and the payment will be routed to the seller's Internet merchant account or
to their PayPal account.
Please note that the new payments policy will not apply to the vehicles categories in
Motors, capital equipment categories in Business & Industrial, Mature Audiences and Real
Estate.
Greg "Gunner" Stitz
market, especially for overseas sellers. I see lots of listings from
Hong Kong, Malaysia and Indonesia.
They could care less about the hobbyist / small business market.
These are changes requested by the big businesses that are using eBay
as a supplement to their brick-and-mortar stores and as a supplement
to their own websites, and many are abandoning or ignoring their own
websites in favor of eBay.
Of course, the hobbyist / small business market is what made eBay
successful. I see lots of "alternatives" popping up, but they are for
niche markets. I know of at least one wargaming miniatures auction
site that has expanded into all hobbies, including action figures
(Wargames Market, now called Games 2 Trains). I'm sure there are
others.
I haven't personally sold anything on eBay in about a year and haven't
bought anything there in probably six months.
This change certainly makes it less likely that I will sell there, but
the reason I haven't bought there is the value isn't there for me
anymore. By the time I factor in shipping, I'm just as well off to
buy retail.
Mason
"GIAction" <giac...@bresnan.net> wrote in message
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frank
Electronic payments are the way of the future. We just have to get
used to it. A few years from now, we won't have paper checks, just
debit cards. IIRC, Western Union's getting away from cash payouts,
they just hand the receiver a pre-paid debit card, which can either be
used as-is or taken to an ATM & cashed in. It's coming & there's
nothing to do but accept it. I used to be opposed to electronic money.
In my bsuiness, it's gotten to be the common thing & I like it now.
The way I see it, why do things the fast way online, then turn around
& use snail mail? Counter-productive in my thinking.......
WitchfinderGeneral
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Just proof to show that ebay sucks.
tatsunokofan
I suspect that any seller still wishing to accept checks/money orders
will continue to do so, despite eBay's attempts to force people into
using their services. All they'll have to do is claim that it's a
"Payment on pick-up," with postage added.
Regardless it's just one more self-serving boneheaded move on their
part that does little more than alienate those who would use their
service.
James
E
the issue is that PayPal is really the only affordable method
available with these changes and eBay owns them. That means eBay gets
paid 3 times every time someone sells something. With the final value
fees going up, and a possible limitation on shipping charges, that
leaves the seller without any way to recoup the price of doing
business.
For a store, that's just the way it is, but private sellers selling
stuff for under $50 or so, it's not going to be worth it anymore
because eBay is taking such a big cut of everything.
The news from eBay just continues to get worse and worse. I'm hoping
someone like Google steps in and kicks off a competitor. Sure, there
are other options, but Goggle is one of the few companies with the
bank and brand name to pull it off and attract people in large enough
numbers to make it a viable alternative to eBay.
E...
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:50:53 -0700 (PDT), frank <famv...@canufly.net>
wrote:
>
> Electronic payments are the way of the future. We just have to get
>used to it. A few years from now, we won't have paper checks, just
>debit cards. IIRC, Western Union's getting away from cash payouts,
>they just hand the receiver a pre-paid debit card, which can either be
>used as-is or taken to an ATM & cashed in. It's coming & there's
>nothing to do but accept it. I used to be opposed to electronic money.
>In my bsuiness, it's gotten to be the common thing & I like it now.
>The way I see it, why do things the fast way online, then turn around
>& use snail mail? Counter-productive in my thinking.......
>
>
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Mr. Scott
through. Looks like I stop using ebay.
Mr Scott
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It sounds like Ebay is going to be a lot less useful to the collector
than it used to be. I am surprised people are still putting the small
parts it takes to finish sets on auction. I used to do an occassional
auction but its not worth the trouble now with the higher fees. On
the bright side maybe toy shows will make a comeback. I always
enjoyed those and most in my area have shut down.
William
frank
Yesterday I got my weekly update from a plastic model seller in
England. www.hannants.com if anyone's interested. Anyway, effective
Jan 1, 2009, they no longer accept checks, er, cheques for payment,
omly credit or debit cards. Or cash if they must. That policy desn't
bother me 'cause in my 15+ years of dealing with them, I always bought
plastic by paying for it with plastic........ It's a-comin'.
On Aug 21, 8:08 pm, E <efra...@netenigma.nospam.com> wrote:
> Things have been headed electronic for a while, that's not the issue,
> the issue is that PayPal is really the only affordable method
> available with these changes and eBay owns them. That means eBay gets
> paid 3 times every time someone sells something. With the final value
> fees going up, and a possible limitation on shipping charges, that
> leaves the seller without any way to recoup the price of doing
> business.
>
> For a store, that's just the way it is, but private sellers selling
> stuff for under $50 or so, it's not going to be worth it anymore
> because eBay is taking such a big cut of everything.
>
> The news from eBay just continues to get worse and worse. I'm hoping
> someone like Google steps in and kicks off a competitor. Sure, there
> are other options, but Goggle is one of the few companies with the
> bank and brand name to pull it off and attract people in large enough
> numbers to make it a viable alternative to eBay.
>
> E...
>
> On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:50:53 -0700 (PDT), frank <famvb...@canufly.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Electronic payments are the way of the future. We just have to get
> >used to it. A few years from now, we won't have paper checks, just
> >debit cards. IIRC, Western Union's getting away from cash payouts,
> >they just hand the receiver a pre-paid debit card, which can either be
> >used as-is or taken to an ATM & cashed in. It's coming & there's
> >nothing to do but accept it. I used to be opposed to electronic money.
> >In my bsuiness, it's gotten to be the common thing & I like it now.
> >The way I see it, why do things the fast way online, then turn around
> >& use snail mail? Counter-productive in my thinking.......
>
> ****************************************************************************
> Please remove "nospam" from my e-mail address.
>
> Eric F.
>
> "The Internet is a communication tool used the world over where
> people can come together to bitch about movies and share
> pornography with one another. "
> - Holden "Jay & Silent Bob"
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Mason
many people, my card already has a pretty big balance. So, even though I'd
put back the money I'd spend on eBay each month to pay on the bill, it'd go
more towards the interest I owe, and meanwhile the principal increases.
Granted I could do direct transfers from my bank account. But, I don't like
the idea of my bank account being tied in to Paypal like that, in case my
account gets hacked. And then that incurs fees, which is what this
eBay/Paypal deal is all about anyway. There is no good excuse for eBay not
letting sellers accept checks and money orders. It's a scam to get more fees
for eBay, and to prop up Paypal. It's certainly not to help the sellers,
they can already opt out of taking checks and money orders if they want.
I'll still buy Joes. When it comes to it, if I have to resort to eBay, I'm
thinking of maybe using a prepaid debit card? Maybe get another credit card
just for Joes, funny as that sounds to me it might be the simplest solution.
eBay seems to be abandoning auctions, hopefully another company will take
it's place. I'd gladly switch.
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Mudville
> Granted I could do direct transfers from my bank account. But, I don't
> like the idea of my bank account being tied in to Paypal like that, in
> case my account gets hacked.
Mason,
I also did not like the idea of Paypal having access to my normal bank
account (concerned about security). So I went and opened a savings account
at a different bank and put in the minimum required ($100) to not have a
monthly service charge - that is the bank account I then linked to my Paypal
account. I add to it occasionally as needed to maintain the minimum balance
if I use it to pay for items through Paypal (or transfer funds back to the
savings account from Paypal if I have a balance from selling stuff). Been
set up that way for three plus years without a problem.
Just a suggestion of a work-around for you.
HTH,
Marty Bennett (mudville)
Mason
look into that. Thank you Marty!
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Imagine that a joe credit card that the wife knowa nothing about!
I would have that thing racked up.
GIAction
works and requires "connection" to an account. My solution was to open a separate account
solely for Paypal. So if the account gets hacked or Paypal does something we have all
heard about too often, automatically taking money out to give back to the other party
regardless of reason or status, they don't have access to a large pot.
GIAction
You get used to something and it works just fine and they change it.
Now I have to figure this out.
It's like when stores change their floor layouts.
It doesn't make me want to search around to find what I want and maybe pick up stuff I
hadn't planned on getting...it pisses me off and I don't get anything.
Mike