Who is WaspWarrior
Scott D
This may be off the subject, but has it dawned on anyone that WaspWarrior
may be yet another poser trying to upsurp serious conversation on here?
He constantly posts racist view and the like, and if it is his plan to
disrupt the discussion, then judging by the number of replies to his
messages, that plan would be rated a success.
Just a thought.
Scott D
Michael Mehaffey
Scott D <wyo...@gibralter.net> wrote in article
<01bd9553$19bd4320$3518ecd0@default>...
A good question, but there is little
doubt who Dennis Wheeler is.
He has been posting here for a
longtime, WASPWarrior is a new
idea of his, and the racism is really
his honest viewpoint.
I don't think it is his intention to disrupt
discussion, but to tell his side of things.
He'll keep posting here, and if no replies
are made, he'll still post.
--
Michael Mehaffey
(The Idle Dawdler)
WASPW...@my-dejanews.com
Scott D.
You have not been on alt.thought.southern for very long. When I returned from
my trip to NYC, I announced that from now on I, Dennis Wheeler, would post as
the WASPWarrior.
I am a known entity. I was invited to participate on this NG by Jim Lancuster
last year. I am a member of the League of the South, Sons of Confederate
Veterans, Confederate Society of America, and the Council of Conservative
Citizens.
My SCV camp is the Stone Mountain Memorial Camp. Persons you might know in
that camp include Turkeybuzzard (Chris ????), BrerFox (Charles Lunsford), Hank
Googer, Richard Straut, and many more superstars of the Southern Movement, not
the least of which is WASPWarrior.
I post the URL to The Dennis Wheeler Home Page at the bottom of each post.
You might go there, click on the debates icon, then click on The Great
Southern League Race Debate and see how we've been having this battle since
1996. George Kalas, Gary Waltrip, Dan Bennett and others have a basic and
uncompromiseable difference of opinion and perspective with me, the Jawja
Boyz, and many others in the Southern Movement.
In The Great Southern League Debate I told my opponents that they were
promoting the Southern Cause while sleeping under a security blanket of non-
discrimimation, non-racism, etc. I pulled the security blanket off them and
aroused the fighting spirit for which Southern men are renoun. They had a
choice, which they still have, turn their energies on the enemies of the South
or fight me to get their security blanket back. So far, they have chosen the
latter.
In September 1996, a group of us met with Wild Bill Rolen in New Albany,
Mississippi for the New Albany Conference, in which we made an effort to
define what the true Southern position is on a variety of issues. The result
of our meeting was the New Albany Declaration, which is also posted on my web
site.
I subscribe to the tenets of the New Albany Declaration; in my mind this is
the essence of what our forefathers believed and what the historic South has
held to in addition to being what the Bible teaches.
The WASPWarrior fights for the Southern people. You might go back and read my
post Why the WASPWarrior to see exactly what it is that I am doing here at
alt.thought.southern.
My comments on Black "Confederates" were right on the money. I would like to
see you refute them. You need not worry about me attacking you the way I do
Dan Bennett and Christopher Johnson.
Bennett has been given every opportunity to debate the issues in a gentlemanly
and professional manner. Instead he chooses to argue like a fourth-grader
fighting over a kick ball on a playground. He is beneath contempt.
I have called him a liar, a coward, and womanly in his argumentation. He has
never done anything to show that perspective to be flawed. And again today I
invite Dan Bennett to debate the issues in a gentlemanly and professional
manner. He needs to take the debate up at the point of Moses' supposed black
wife, at which point he totally abandoned all forms of adult speech and
communication. Having so done, we can move forward from there.
You now need to answer my position on the Black "Confederate." That is your
task, it would seem to me.
I will deal with Christopher Johnson's "mistaken" impression of Dabney and
Thornwell later today.
Mainly, I have little problem with men like Gray Shockley, William Jarrell,
and Michael Mehaffey. Jarrel has no truck with the Southern movement.
Shockley is a Reconstructed Southerner who enjoys American like as it
presently is, I think. And while Mehaffey aspires to a form of Southern
nationalism, I don't think he tries to connect it to the Confederate Cause,
nor fancies himself a philosophical descendant of the Confederate heroes.
(Any of these three can correct me if I'm wrong here.)
But Bennett and Johnson are a different flock. Bennett's position is the most
hypocritical and dishonest one I've ever seen. He absolutely despises the
ideals of the Confederacy. And were the War held tomorrow, he would either
have to fight for the Union or completely deny his principles. Still, he
carries on about what a great Unreconstructed Southerner he is, waves the
Battle Flag, and considers himself a philosophical descendant of the
Confederacy.
I won't tolerate it and will war against this for as long as I live.
Christopher Johnson is a newcomer to the ranks. He is an evangelical
Christian who agrees with the anti-Christian humanists on a variety of social
and politcial issues. He has twisted the Scripture in a number of places to
make it teach the communist ideal of equality and unity, as opposed to
inequality and diversity.
Yet somehow, he fancies himself a Southern nationalist with selective appeals
to Southerners of old. He is a second-stringer compared to Bennett and hasn't
yet made much of a splash, if any, in Southern organizations.
But I continue to elicit his perspective from his; and continue to grasp what
it is he believes and what he wants to accomplish.
And so now we come to you, Mr. D. Who are you? Where are your sympathies?
What Southern organizations do you belong to? And what are you trying to
accomplish? This is an open forum and I would like to hear more.
Finally, there is one more reason I'm on Alt.thought.southern. There are many
more lurkers here than you might imagine. The overwhelming majority of
Southerners who adhere to my perspective are afraid to speak out in public for
fear of the type of ridicule I receive at the hands of the South's enemies.
But they read what I write and it makes an impression on them. And the South
improves day by day because of the exercise. So part of what I do is done for
the lurkers.
Fair warning: I'll be here until next Tuesday. Afterwards I'm going to
Smithers, British Columbia for a week or so. Global Mineral & Chemical will
be drilling for gold, copper, silver, and zinc and owning a lot of shares, I
want to be there in case we hit something.
So let's try to tidy up this NG before next Tuesday.
The WASPWarrior
http://www.mindspring.com/~dennis/
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Dan Bennett
Scott D wrote in message <01bd9553$19bd4320$3518ecd0@default>...
>This may be off the subject, but has it dawned on anyone that WaspWarrior
>may be yet another poser trying to upsurp serious conversation on here?
>
>He constantly posts racist view and the like, and if it is his plan to
>disrupt the discussion, then judging by the number of replies to his
>messages, that plan would be rated a success.
It's possible. I've had a number of people in the LS venture the opinion
that Dennis is simply a provocateur of some sort, trying to stir up
dissension within the group.
Personally, I don't think his potential for damage is that great. He's such
a caricature white racialist that he has little appeal to thoughtful folks.
What he does do is lend credibility to the stereotype of Southrons as
dim-witted bigots, and I don't appreciate that very much. Most Klansmen are
Yankees, and the racialist movement is primarily a Yankee phenomenon. Their
Mecca is in the Pacific Northwest. But as long as their are scalawags like
Wheeler around, there will be people eager to buy his line of crud and
believe that it's Southern.
--
Deo vindice,
Dan
http://www.dixienet.org
Mark Pitcavage
On Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:03:24 -0500, "Dan Bennett" <d...@cavalry.com>
wrote:
>Most Klansmen are
>Yankees, and the racialist movement is primarily a Yankee phenomenon.
There is little evidence to support either statement.
Dr. Mark Pitcavage, spa...@militia-watchdog.org
The Militia Watchdog: Http://www.militia-watchdog.org
Scott D
Michael Mehaffey <m.meh...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
<6lovoh$5...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
>
>
> A good question, but there is little
> doubt who Dennis Wheeler is.
>
> He has been posting here for a
> longtime, WASPWarrior is a new
> idea of his, and the racism is really
> his honest viewpoint.
>
> I don't think it is his intention to disrupt
> discussion, but to tell his side of things.
>
> He'll keep posting here, and if no replies
> are made, he'll still post.
> --
> Michael Mehaffey
> (The Idle Dawdler)
Well, then, I stand corrected.
Peter Garner
>
> >Most Klansmen are
> >Yankees, and the racialist movement is primarily a Yankee phenomenon.
>
> There is little evidence to support either statement.
Really Mark? According to their own literature most of the Klan's
membership is in states north of the mason dixon. But since you have
indicated in your previous posts that you do not think Grant and
Sherman's extermination of the Plains tribes was genocide, perhaps you
only consider it racism when it is practiced by southerners? Then I
suppose yes, by your definition, your are correct.
Peace
Peter
Mark Pitcavage
On 11 Jun 1998 16:12:41 -0600, peter....@toward.com (Peter Garner)
wrote:
>>
>> >Most Klansmen are
>> >Yankees, and the racialist movement is primarily a Yankee phenomenon.
>>
>> There is little evidence to support either statement.
>
>
>Really Mark? According to their own literature most of the Klan's
>membership is in states north of the mason dixon.
Don't be silly. There is not one Klan. There are a bunch of entirely
separated Klans, none of which have any statistics on the membership
of other Klans. Your statement is either itself erroneous or merely a
reproduction of an erroneous statement made by someone else. The most
prominent Klan leaders in recent years have virtually all come from
the South, as well, including David Duke, Bill Wilkinson, Louis Beam,
Thomas Robb, etc., etc. There is Klan activity in every region of the
country, but there is no evidence to suggest that "most Klansmen are
Yankees."
>But since you have
>indicated in your previous posts that you do not think Grant and
>Sherman's extermination of the Plains tribes was genocide, perhaps you
>only consider it racism when it is practiced by southerners? Then I
>suppose yes, by your definition, your are correct.
Neither Grant nor Sherman exterminated any Plains tribes. But what I
said was that the United States never practiced genocide against the
Indians. Not Grant, not Sherman, not Andrew Jackson. What that has
to do with this issue is hard to see.
Dan Bennett
WASPW...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
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> Bennett's position is the most
>hypocritical and dishonest one I've ever seen. He absolutely despises the
>ideals of the Confederacy.
Nope, I just despise your miserable Idaho Aryan crud that you're trying to
pass off as Southern. It isn't, and neither are you (except possibly in a
geographical sense, which is a great shame).
Your ideas are those of the Ku Klux Klan and the National Alliance, not
Southern Nationalism. (You are, in fact, a Klansman, are you not? )
You're a plain vanilla white supremacist, little different from your
brethren who murdered the black hitchhiker down in Texas. Fortunately, very
few in the SN movement share your wretched, unSouthern ideas.
You're a laughingstock, Wheeler, as well as a malicious bigot.
Go burn a cross, Klan-boy.
Christopher Johnson
Dennis Wheeler continually invokes this or that Southern theologian in
order to justify chattel slavery. But Jesus Christ pegged people like
him a long time ago. "Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you,
saying 'This people honor me with their lips; but their heart is far
from me. But in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the
commandments of men(Matthew 15:7-8).'"
As for my Southern nationalism, it is very different from Dennis
Wheeler's. I actually would like to see a restored South for all its
citizens, black and white. Wheeler could care less about the South; he
just uses his membership on Southern nationalist organizations to
advance his evil racist ideas.
Christopher Johnson
Webster Groves, Missouri
http://members.tripod.com/~Quantrill/CWWG.html
Gray Shockley
On Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:18:35 -0500, WASPW...@my-dejanews.com wrote
> I am a known entity. I was invited to participate on this NG by Jim
> Lancuster last year. I am a member of the League of the South, Sons of
> Confederate Veterans, Confederate Society of America, and the Council of
> Conservative Citizens.
Hm,m,m - I guess I should list all the organizations to which I, presently,
belong. American Automobile Association, Association of the United States Army
. . . I think I just ran out of orgs.
> My SCV camp is the Stone Mountain Memorial Camp. Persons you might know in
> that camp include Turkeybuzzard (Chris ????), BrerFox (Charles Lunsford),
> Hank Googer, Richard Straut, and many more superstars of the Southern
> Movement, not the least of which is WASPWarrior.
My USA camps were VietNam, Korea about 10 clicks from the DMZ, Germany (HAWK
and Pershing Nuclear missle units), Fort Polk, LA (5th Infantry Division
(Mechanized) and an Army R&R Lab in Northern Virginia.
> In September 1996, a group of us met with Wild Bill Rolen in New Albany,
> Mississippi for the New Albany Conference, in which we made an effort to
> define what the true Southern position is on a variety of issues. The
> result of our meeting was the New Albany Declaration, which is also posted
> on my web site.
Your site isn't there (seriously!). All that is there is a "FTP-Type" page
which only lists "Parent Directory" which takes one straight to mindspring's
homepage.
> Mainly, I have little problem with men like Gray Shockley, William Jarrell,
> and Michael Mehaffey. Jarrel has no truck with the Southern movement.
> Shockley is a Reconstructed Southerner who enjoys American like as it
> presently is, I think.
Actually I don't qualify as "a Reconstructed Southerner." My Amer Heritage Dict
(3rd ed) says: "Reconstruction: The period (1865-1877) during which the states
of the Confederacy were controlled by the federal government before being
readmitted to the Union."
I know I'm pushing (heck, I've already been pushed into) middle-age but I'm
just not old enough to have been around between 1865 and 1877.
Frank Herbert: "Languages build up to reflect specializations in a way of life.
Each specialization may be recognized by its words, by its assumptions and
sentence structures. Look for stoppages. Specializations represent places where
life is being stopped, where the movement is damned up and frozen."
Gray
----------------------------------------------------------
gr...@compcomm.com
Gray's Coffee Shop: http://compcomm.com/coffee.html
Peter Garner
> Neither Grant nor Sherman exterminated any Plains tribes. But what I
> said was that the United States never practiced genocide against the
> Indians. Not Grant, not Sherman, not Andrew Jackson.
Well folks, I guess we have him! I think at this point any thing this
person says can be refuted simply by referring to this post. Unless
someone else is posting with his ID to discredit him, I think we have
proof now that this person is completely disconnected from reality.
The USA never practiced Genocide against he Indians???? WOW!!!
Peace
Peter
Mark Pitcavage
On 12 Jun 1998 02:41:32 -0600, peter....@toward.com (Peter Garner)
wrote:
>> Neither Grant nor Sherman exterminated any Plains tribes. But what I
You apparently do not know the meaning of the word genocide.
Peter Anthony
> Dennis Wheeler continually invokes this or that Southern theologian in
> order to justify chattel slavery. But Jesus Christ pegged people like
> him a long time ago. "Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you,
> saying 'This people honor me with their lips; but their heart is far
> from me. But in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the
> commandments of men(Matthew 15:7-8).'"
Let us view your blatantly out of context quote with the surrounding
Scriptures, shall we?
1 Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem,
saying,
2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they
wash not their hands when they eat bread.
Traditions of the Elders... sounds like the groundwork for the Talmud to
me.
3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the
commandment of God by your tradition?
4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that
curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a
gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye
made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.
7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with
their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments
of men.
10 And he called the multitude, and said unto them, Hear, and understand:
11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which
cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
12 Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the
Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying?
13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath
not planted, shall be rooted up.
It would seem that Jesus was speaking to the spiritual ancestors of today's
practitioners of the antiChrist, Babylonian religion of Judaism... NOT
Southern Nationalists who would prefer that the white race NOT come to
extinction.
> As for my Southern nationalism, it is very different from Dennis
> Wheeler's. I actually would like to see a restored South for all its
> citizens, black and white. Wheeler could care less about the South; he
> just uses his membership on Southern nationalist organizations to
> advance his evil racist ideas.
Ah, the eeeeevil raaaaacist slander again. It would seem that anyone who
does not advocate miscegenation and 'diversity' and prefers their race over
another (what sort of neighborhood do YOU live in Mr. Johnson?) is an
eeeeevil raaacist. I would remind you that it is strongly in the interests
of the 'other races' that the white race continue undiluted... else the
world will soon look like... well... all the other places where whites are
absent (decadence, overcrowding, poverty, etc.). The advocates of
multi-kulturalism, elitist greedy bastards that they are, are short-sighted
in this respect. Name a negro first-world country?
As for your 'anti-slavery' stance... I would ask that you please read the
following verses, and the entire Old Testament to boot.
Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them
well in all things; not answering again; Titus 2:9
Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good
and gentle, but also to the froward. I Peter 2:18
Let as many servants as are under the YOKE count their own masters worthy
of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed. And
they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they
are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and
beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort. I Timothy
6:1-2
Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with
eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God;
Colossians 3:22
Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh,
with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;
Ephesians 6:5
WaspWarrior, so far as I can tell, is completely in line with the
Scriptures. So who is the hypocrite here?
Blessings,
Peter Anthony
Christopher Johnson
I have read the quotes on slavery you cite many times, Mr. Anthony. Mr.
Wheeler never tires of quoting them to me. Perhaps you could clear up
why you think, on the one hand, that we shouldn't go back to slavery and
on the other hand why slavery is not a sin. You may also want to read
the Sermon on the Mount, wherein Our Lord says over and over that we are
to go beyond mere words.
Our "neighbors," says Christ here and in the parable of the Good
Samaritan, are not just those people we live with or near. They are all
men, whereever they live and whatever their ethnic background, even our
"enemies." We ought not interpret Scripture our way; any Pharisee,
Jewish or Christian, can do that. We are to be perfect, as our Father
in heaven is perfect.
With all those quotes from the Founding Fathers, you demonstrated the
principle behind my Matthwe 15 citation quite nicely and I stand behind
it. It seems to me that the "tradition of the elders" ought not
supercede the words of Christ, regardless of whether those elders are
Jewish religious leaders or Christian founding fathers.
Some of us are living in 1998. And while it's historically interesting,
it matters little what the Founding Fathers thought about racial
matters. Hate to break this to you, but they're dead. Blacks and whites
are here. Now. How, then, are we to live together? I don't know about
you, but my allegiance is to Jesus Christ first and foremost. The white
race is way down my list, not even in the top ten. If you want to
worship the white race, that's your right. Dennis Wheeler will be
delighted to have made a convert to his religion.
As for all those horrors you think will happen if the white race is no
longer here, I guess it won't do any good to point out that all the
perpetrators of this recent school shootings were white and ithree black
men are not charged with dragging a white man to his death in Jasper,
Texas.
Cordially,
Peter Garner
> You apparently do not know the meaning of the word genocide.
Well according to the American Heritage Dictionary, it is the
"systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial,
ethnic or political group". The United Nations Resolution on Genocide
expands that a bit so that it expressly includes elimination of food
supply, introduction of disease, involuntary birth control or
sterilization, etc. (ALL of which were practiced by the US against
the Native Americans.) Just out of curiosity what did YOU think it
meant? And please do not tell me that the inclusion of the word
"entire" in the above definition absolves the US since they failed to
kill ALL of them. If you do so, then you absolving every genocidal
regime from Stalin's to the Serbian's, since few extermination
campaigns have been 100% effective. Furthermore if you do so you are
also absolving the Nazis of Genocide since they killed only ca. 80% of
European Jewry. And IF you thereby implicitly make the statement that
Nazis were not guilty of Genocide, you have proved my point which was
that you have no credibility in discussing Holocaust Revisionism. Of
course you may continue to simply reply with a one line post like your
previous statements : "your ignorance knows no bounds" or "You
apparently do not know the meaning of the word genocide" as you have
in the past.
Peace
Peter
Mark Pitcavage
On 13 Jun 1998 22:49:19 -0600, peter....@toward.com (Peter Garner)
wrote:
>> You apparently do not know the meaning of the word genocide.
>
>Well according to the American Heritage Dictionary, it is the
>"systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial,
>ethnic or political group".
That is correct. Note that the U.S. does NOT come close to fitting
this definition.
>The United Nations Resolution on Genocide
>expands that a bit so that it expressly includes elimination of food
>supply, introduction of disease, involuntary birth control or
>sterilization, etc. (ALL of which were practiced by the US against
>the Native Americans.)
That is not correct.
Peter Garner
> >The United Nations Resolution on Genocide
> >expands that a bit so that it expressly includes elimination of food
> >supply, introduction of disease, involuntary birth control or
> >sterilization, etc. (ALL of which were practiced by the US against
> >the Native Americans.)
> That is not correct.
It most certainly is correct. Those with a more open mind may wish to
read "The American Holocaust", which presents a great deal evidence
showing that the actual number of Native Americans killed was in the
hundreds of thousands, not tens of thousands as American history books
purport. It also does an excellent job of dealing with American
Holocaust Revisionists. "Custer Died for Your Sins" is also excellent
reading. The book "Lakota Woman" gives some particularly heart
wrenching accounts of forced sterilizations performed on Native
American women and children. I do not like name calling, but your one
line responses of "your ignorant", and "that is not correct" are not
only childish, but also underscore the cavalier attitude in which you
hold your dark beliefs. Well, at least you are predictable, you
certainly did reply with your usual no substance one liners as I had
said you would. So you ARE a holocaust revisionist! I never believed
that I would meet an individual that would deny that the US practiced
genocide against the Native Americans! Originally I had stated :
=======================================================
Well folks, I guess we have him! I think at this point any thing this
person says can be refuted simply by referring to this post. Unless
someone else is posting with his ID to discredit him, I think we have
proof now that this person is completely disconnected from reality.
The USA never practiced Genocide against he Indians???? WOW!!!
=======================================================
Your responses since then have only proved that point to an even
greater extent than I thought possible. Although frankly I take
absolutely no pleasure in that fact. In fact I feel the same horror
as someone might feel upon confirming their suspicions that a fellow
human being is suffering from a gruesome and incurable disease. A
holocaust revisionist is the worst type of racist as he not only
prevents past misdeeds from healing but by so doing firmly plants the
seeds from which such evil may continue to grow. I have had to endure
racial slurs all my life and it no longer bothers me. But I can never
remember feeling as sickened by mere words as I feel now watching you
attempt to justify the murder of hundreds of thousands of human
beings. May God help you as I fear you have removed yourself to a
place where the help of your fellow humans cannot reach.
Peace
Peter
Andy Walton
In article <6lphq1$j...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>,
spa...@militia-watchdog.org (Mark Pitcavage) wrote:
:Neither Grant nor Sherman exterminated any Plains tribes. But what I
:said was that the United States never practiced genocide against the
:Indians. Not Grant, not Sherman, not Andrew Jackson.
Under a strict definition of "genocide," no. The United States has always
been willing to accept Indians who were sufficiently servile, willing to
sign treaties that would be ignored by the U.S. on a whim. It was only the
troublesome ones that had to be eliminated. The motives were only partly
racist, and mostly pragmatic.
:What that has to do with this issue is hard to see.
I see no relevance, but I'll take the diversion.
--
"I never write 'metropolis' for seven cents because I can get the same
price for 'city.' I never write 'policeman' because I can get the same
money for 'cop.'" -- Mark Twain
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Andy Walton * att...@mindspring.com * http://atticus.home.mindspring.com/
Peter Garner
> Under a strict definition of "genocide," no. The United States has always
> been willing to accept Indians who were sufficiently servile, willing to
> sign treaties that would be ignored by the U.S. on a whim. It was only the
> troublesome ones that had to be eliminated. The motives were only partly
> racist, and mostly pragmatic.
That is quite a reach! SO by the same token, since the Nazis allowed
certain Jews to live who performed useful services they were not
guilty of genocide either? What about the Civil War Sand Creek
massacre? Those Cheyenne were not only protected by and abiding by
treaty, but even had the Union Flag flying from their camp when they
were exterminated. Even by a strict definition of Genocide and
assuming that everything you stated above is true, the US is still
guilty of Genocide against the Native population. The fact that they
did not kill ALL of them doesn't eliminate their guilt.
Peace
Peter