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Tim Weber  
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 More options Jun 6 2001, 4:29 pm
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From: Tim Weber <webert9...@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 20:29:27 GMT
Local: Wed, Jun 6 2001 4:29 pm
Subject: Is this true.
A friend of mine sent me the below article via e-mail. I am wondering if
anyone has any first hand knowledge of these events. I have looked on
the Internet trying to get another source for this story, but have had
no success.

Thanks.

Student Beaten Unconscious for Confederate Flag Picture in School
Library Book
Neill H. Payne 06.02.01

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Houston--Another student fell victim in April to the escalating campaign
for the
ethnic cleansing of Dixie. Ryan Zane Oleichi, a 13-year-old student at
Labay
Middle School outside of Houston, Texas, required hospitalization for
the
treatment of injuries he received when he was viciously assaulted as he
was
leaving school. The two perpetrators, a Black and an Hispanic classmate
objected
to a book that Ryan was carrying home because it had a picture of the
Confederate battle flag on the cover. Ryan got the book from the school
library
for a report that he was doing on Gen. Robert E. Lee.

This outrage is the direct and proximate result of a hostile learning
environment created by the administration of the Labay Middle School.
Particularly culpable is the Assistant Principal, Ms. Cheryl Morrison.

Back on 19 February, which was a Monday, Ryan's mother Melinda Hill was
called
to the school. Ms. Morrison met with Ryan's mom to tell her that Ryan
was to
start 3 days detention as punishment for his wearing of a Confederate
flag patch
on his shirt. The offending emblem measured all of one inch by one and
one-half
inches. Overruling the fact that the rulebook only calls for a one-day
penalty
for infractions of the school dress code, Ryan was to be made an
example. You
see, Ms. Morrison told Mrs. Hill, "We must make an example of Ryan. He
is a
racist."

Mrs. Hill was confused by this turn of events. Ryan had worn this shirt
several
times before without incident. He is proud to wear the Confederate flag
because
of his love for his Southern Confederate heritage. He is a good student
with
good grades. He is not a troublemaker nor is he a racist. In fact, he is
half
Lebanese. Ms. Morrison would only say that an "extreme example" must be
made.
Ryan would be given three days detention and then forced to apologize
publicly
to all the Black students for being a "racist."

Thus the Assistant Principal's auto-da-fe set in motion the wheels of
persecution that lead to Ryan's beating. Students began verbally abusing
Ryan
and harassing him. On 20 April events began to escalate. A student,
Christina
Nelson, walked up and slapped Ryan's face. She then threatened to sic
her
"posse" on him. "Posse" is generally understood to be a slang term among
Blacks
that means "a gang."

Then on 26 April, which is Confederate Memorial Day in Texas, Ryan was
working
on his book report on Confederate General Robert E. Lee in his first
period
class. He was looking at the book that he had checked out from the
school
library. A classmate of his, a Black student named Andrew Foster asked,
"What's
that?" Ryan replied, "It's a book." Andrew then asked, "Why do you have
that
flag on it?" Ryan responded, "It's the only one in the school library."

At this point an Hispanic student, Leonardo Suarez chimed in, "You
racist . . .
you racist! I'm gonna kick your a__! I don't know when, maybe today,
maybe
tomorrow, but I'm gonna kick your a__!"

When leaving the classroom, the Black student, Foster, tripped Ryan then
slammed
him against the lockers and issued his own threat to kick Ryan's a__.
They made
good on their threats as soon as school was over. In a sickening display
of how
diversity is our strength, this multi-ethnic duo caught Ryan outside the
school
fence. Foster got to Ryan first and began punching him in the face and
stomach
until Ryan hit the ground. Foster then hollered for Suarez to join him.
Foster
shouted, "Hey Leonardo, Ryan doesn't like Mexicans, he wants you to go
back to
Mexico." Suarez ran up and with his steel toed boots and started kicking
Ryan in
the head as Ryan lay on the ground. Suarez continued "kicking his a__"
as he had
threatened to do until Ryan lay unconscious at their feet.

At no time did Ryan fight back even though he holds a black belt in Tae
Kwon Do.
Even at the tender age of thirteen, Ryan understands the political
landscape of
the Political Correctness Empire. He knew that if he were to do anything
against
this pair he would be painted as the aggressor. Don't forget, he now
bore the
scarlet "R". He was a racist according to the judgment of an assistant
principal
and by virtue of his own coerced confession and apology. It was open
season. He
was to be made an example.

Unfortunately, even his refusal to fight back did not help his cause.
The
school, when it learned of the "incident", did nothing. The excuse that
they
used for their do-nothing policy was that the "incident" had occurred
out side
of the school grounds. In spite of witnesses they declared it was
"mutual
combat," because Ryan had the audacity to put his hands up to protect
his face.
The District Attorney was contacted and he has refused to file charges.
So far
nothing has been done and apparently no official or agency will do
anything to
bring some justice to this situation.

Ryan subsequently spent three days in the hospital, was treated and
released to
convalesce at home. When Ryan returned to school he received more verbal
abuse
and death threats. A particularly odious harpy, a student by the name of
Carrie
Neumann, made a small career out of shouting loud insults at Ryan every
day. She
issued veiled threats saying that she was "connected." She sent a
package to
Ryan's home that his mother is afraid to pick up. This entire outrageous

experience is causing a great deal of strain on this single mom and her
son.
Until they contacted the SLRC, no one that they called would dare lift a
finger
to help them.

No amount of pleading or protest by Ryan's mother could get the school
or
district officials to intervene on Ryan's behalf. Assistant Principal
Morrison
made good on her promise to make an "extreme example" out of Ryan.

What must it be like to be thirteen and to be thrown to these wolves?
Ryan
learned that Suarez was saying that he was, "not satisfied and won't be
until
Ryan is dead." One week after he returned to school his mother withdrew
him and
she will school him at home.


 
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Discussion subject changed to "Is this true. No" by Rambler III
Rambler III  
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 More options Jun 6 2001, 6:18 pm
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From: Rambler III <Walker.HG-...@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 22:18:05 GMT
Local: Wed, Jun 6 2001 6:18 pm
Subject: Re: Is this true. No

If you''ll check the Houston telephone book you will find no such listing. Is also
said that there is no such listing in Texas. There is no such listing on the
Internet per Google.com. A search of the AT&T white pages comes up negative. The
name is in some manner an anagram of Third Reich/Nazi, and the supposed newspaper
account is a White Supremacist or KKK fabrication.

--
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".In short, I guess what I think I think [I can't be sure that what I think I think]
is really what I think, and if you think that's confusing, think what it must be
like to be thinking it...  Obviously, I'm speculating,.."
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 More options Jun 6 2001, 6:37 pm
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From: che49966...@aol.com (Mister Wiggins)
Date: 06 Jun 2001 22:37:23 GMT
Local: Wed, Jun 6 2001 6:37 pm
Subject: Re: Is this true. No

>If you''ll check the Houston telephone book you will find no such listing. Is
>also
>said that there is no such listing in Texas. There is no such listing on the
>Internet per Google.com. A search of the AT&T white pages comes up negative.
>The
>name is in some manner an anagram of Third Reich/Nazi, and the supposed
>newspaper
>account is a White Supremacist or KKK fabrication.

>--
>Rambler III

Thank you.

I figured as much.

Mister Wiggins.

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Last words of Pat Cleburne. 1864

"If this is as good as it gets, then I'm sorely disappointed."

Kate Morrow, 2001.


 
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 More options Jun 6 2001, 7:32 pm
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:26:54 -0400
Local: Wed, Jun 6 2001 7:26 pm
Subject: Re: Is this true.
 
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 More options Jun 6 2001, 8:21 pm
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From: Tim Weber <webert9...@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 00:21:21 GMT
Local: Wed, Jun 6 2001 8:21 pm
Subject: Re: Is this true.
Thanks for the link, I also received an offline e-mail from the Texas
League of the South confirming this.


 
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 More options Jun 6 2001, 9:52 pm
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From: Rambler III <Walker.HG-...@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 01:52:14 GMT
Local: Wed, Jun 6 2001 9:52 pm
Subject: Re: Is this true.

Tim Weber wrote:
> Thanks for the link, I also received an offline e-mail from the Texas
> League of the South confirming this.

> CERoberts wrote:

> > http://sierratimes.com/archive/files/jun/05/arjj060501.htm

Cite a telephone number for one "Oleichi" in the world - even in Japan
[ichi in the number one. ichi, ni, san, shi, go, rokku, hachi ,ku, ju,
ju-ichi...] That will be more proof than a million URLs.

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think I think] is really what I think, and if you think that's confusing,
think what it must be like to be thinking it...  Obviously, I'm
speculating,.."
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 More options Jun 6 2001, 9:53 pm
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From: Rambler III <Walker.HG-...@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 01:53:31 GMT
Local: Wed, Jun 6 2001 9:53 pm
Subject: Re: Is this true.

Tim Weber wrote:
> Thanks for the link, I also received an offline e-mail from the Texas
> League of the South confirming this.

> CERoberts wrote:

> > http://sierratimes.com/archive/files/jun/05/arjj060501.htm

Cite a telephone number for one "Oleichi" in the world - even in Japan
[ichi in the number one. ichi, ni, san, shi, go, rokku, hachi ,ku, ju,
ju-ichi...] That will be more prood than a million URLs.

The moon is blue cheese, the world is flat and you're full of shit.

--
Rambler III

".In short, I guess what I think I think [I can't be sure that what I
think I think] is really what I think, and if you think that's confusing,
think what it must be like to be thinking it...  Obviously, I'm
speculating,.."
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 More options Jun 7 2001, 3:43 am
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From: atti...@mindspring.com (Andy Walton)
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 03:42:09 -0400
Local: Thurs, Jun 7 2001 3:42 am
Subject: Re: Is this true.
In article <3B1EC8E3.30894...@earthlink.net>, Tim Weber

<webert9...@earthlink.net> wrote:

  :I also received an offline e-mail

?
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 More options Jun 7 2001, 6:19 am
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From: Rambler III <Walker.HG-...@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 10:19:23 GMT
Local: Thurs, Jun 7 2001 6:19 am
Subject: Re: Is this true.

Andy Walton wrote:
> In article <3B1EC8E3.30894...@earthlink.net>, Tim Weber
> <webert9...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>   :I also received an offline e-mail

> ?
> --
>  "When I split an infinitive, God damn it, I split it so it stays split."
>                                                      -- Raymond Chandler
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Why not inquire about a subscription and determine if it's a hard copy
publication or a pseudo-newspaper published on Internet for the braindead?

--
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think] is really what I think, and if you think that's confusing, think what
it must be like to be thinking it...  Obviously, I'm speculating,.."
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 More options Jun 7 2001, 3:46 pm
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From: atti...@mindspring.com (Andy Walton)
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 15:45:40 -0400
Local: Thurs, Jun 7 2001 3:45 pm
Subject: Re: Is this true.
In article <3B1F56BC.E8946...@worldnet.att.net>,

Walker.HG-...@worldnet.att.net wrote:

  :Andy Walton wrote:
  :
  :> In article <3B1EC8E3.30894...@earthlink.net>, Tim Weber
  :> <webert9...@earthlink.net> wrote:
  :>
  :>   :I also received an offline e-mail
  :>
  :> ?

  :Why not inquire about a subscription and determine if it's a hard copy
  :publication or a pseudo-newspaper published on Internet for the braindead?

I'm not that interested in it. I was just wondering what the hell the
phrase "offline e-mail" could possibly mean. I'm betting on more butchery
of the English language.
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 More options Jun 7 2001, 5:52 pm
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From: Rambler III <Walker.HG-...@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 21:52:33 GMT
Local: Thurs, Jun 7 2001 5:52 pm
Subject: Re: Is this true.

I suspect he might mean that rather than a comment on the Newsgroup he received a
"back channel communication". That's the term I use.

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think] is really what I think, and if you think that's confusing, think what it
must be like to be thinking it...  Obviously, I'm speculating,.."
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 More options Jun 8 2001, 6:58 am
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From: atti...@mindspring.com (Andy Walton)
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 06:57:40 -0400
Local: Fri, Jun 8 2001 6:57 am
Subject: Re: Is this true.
In article <3B1FF933.3D082...@worldnet.att.net>,

Walker.HG-...@worldnet.att.net wrote:

  :Andy Walton wrote:
  :
  :> In article <3B1F56BC.E8946...@worldnet.att.net>,
  :> Walker.HG-...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
  :>
  :>   :Andy Walton wrote:
  :>   :
  :>   :> In article <3B1EC8E3.30894...@earthlink.net>, Tim Weber
  :>   :> <webert9...@earthlink.net> wrote:
  :>   :>
  :>   :>   :I also received an offline e-mail
  :>   :>
  :>   :> ?
  :>
  :>   :Why not inquire about a subscription and determine if it's a hard copy
  :>   :publication or a pseudo-newspaper published on Internet for the
braindead?
  :>
  :> I'm not that interested in it. I was just wondering what the hell the
  :> phrase "offline e-mail" could possibly mean. I'm betting on more butchery
  :> of the English language.
  :
  :I suspect he might mean that rather than a comment on the Newsgroup he
received a
  :"back channel communication". That's the term I use.

That's an "e-mail," which term in and of itself denotes something distinct
from a newsgroup post. "offline e-mail" is a self-contradictory and
nonsensical phrase.  I had a decent idea what the guy meant, but I'm
fighting a losing battle to get people to *think* before they carelessly
toss around the latest biz-speak buzzwords.
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  beer. Oh, I grant you that the wheel was also a fine invention, but the
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From: Rambler III <Walker.HG-...@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 14:15:13 GMT
Local: Fri, Jun 8 2001 10:15 am
Subject: Re: Is this true.

Andy Walton wrote:
> That's an "e-mail," which term in and of itself denotes something distinct
> from a newsgroup post. "offline e-mail" is a self-contradictory and
> nonsensical phrase.  I had a decent idea what the guy meant, but I'm
> fighting a losing battle to get people to *think* before they carelessly
> toss around the latest biz-speak buzzwords.

On  an unmonitored Newsgroup, you should expect language the poster is accustomed
to using
informally.

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 More options Jun 9 2001, 1:29 am
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From: atti...@mindspring.com (Andy Walton)
Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 01:28:32 -0400
Local: Sat, Jun 9 2001 1:28 am
Subject: Re: Is this true.
In article <3B20DF85.B5654...@worldnet.att.net>,

Walker.HG-...@worldnet.att.net wrote:

  :Andy Walton wrote:
  :
  :> That's an "e-mail," which term in and of itself denotes something distinct
  :> from a newsgroup post. "offline e-mail" is a self-contradictory and
  :> nonsensical phrase.  I had a decent idea what the guy meant, but I'm
  :> fighting a losing battle to get people to *think* before they carelessly
  :> toss around the latest biz-speak buzzwords.
  :
  :On  an unmonitored Newsgroup, you should expect language the poster is
  :accustomed to using informally.

Oh, I expect it. I just don't like it. I'm not a much of a stickler for
formality, but when loosening the rules makes communication less precise,
less pleasing, and less evocative, I'm against it.

You're right, of course; sloppy and annoying use of language on Usenet is
just a symptom.
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