Nazi symbol in frozen Berlin lake
Heinrich Mueller
after being alerted by pilots who saw the Nazi symbol as they flew into one
of the city's international airports, a police spokesman said on Tuesday.
The swastika, up to eight meters (25 feet) wide, appeared to have been
etched into the icy Schaefersee lake on the eastern approach to Tegel
Airport on Monday by someone using their feet, spokesman Thomas Piotrowski
said.
"We are investigating, but we still don't know at all who did it," he said.
Several pilots saw the symbol, outlawed in Germany, and police quickly
cleared it with snow shovels, Piotrowski said.
Don Ocean
Wow! Talk about Hysteria and Paranoia! That symbol was used as
a religious symbol by American Indians and many others Centuries
before Nazi Germany' 3rd Reich. I would however be very curious as
just how the Nazi Regime came to use that symbol and what their
interpretation of it was... Historical value etc... ;-)
Heinrich Mueller
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> Wow! Talk about Hysteria and Paranoia! That symbol was used as
> a religious symbol by American Indians and many others Centuries
> before Nazi Germany' 3rd Reich. I would however be very curious as
> just how the Nazi Regime came to use that symbol and what their
> interpretation of it was... Historical value etc... ;-)
do note rabbi Silvermann
http://history1900s.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iearn.org%2Fhgp%2Faeti%2Faeti-1997%2Fswastika.html
The swastika was a symbol for the Aryan people, a name which, in Sanskrit
means "noble". The Aryans were a group of people who settled in Iran and
Northern India. They believed themselves to be a pure race, superior to the
other surrounding cultures. When the Germans looked for a symbol, they
looked for a symbol which represented the purity which they believed they
contained. The Nazis regarded themselves as "Aryans" and tried to steal the
accomplishments of these pre-historic people.
In Nazi Germany, the swastika with its arms turned clockwise became the
national symbol. In 1910, a poet and nationalist Guido von List suggested
that the swastika as a symbol for all anti-Semitic organizations. When the
National Socialist Party was formed in 1919, it adopted the ancient symbol,
the swastika, giving it the worst meaning possible, destroying the good
symbolism which the swastika had held for thousands of years prior.
In 1935, the black swastika on a white circle with a crimson background
became the national symbol of Germany. The major difference between the Nazi
swastika and the ancient symbol of many different cultures, is that the Nazi
swastika is at a slant, while the ancient swastika is rested flat.
Today, whenever the ancient symbol is used, it is automatically assumed by
most people that it is a Nazi symbol and that the people who use it are
Nazis. When the Nazis took the ancient symbol, they erased the good meaning
of the swastika, the symbol of purity and of life. The racist people of
today further degrade the meaning of the ancient symbol by spray painting
the swastika on people houses, cars, and even schools.
In my eighth grade World of Difference class, we watched a video about a
high school art student who painted the swastika and displayed it in his
school's art gallery. We then had a debate on whether the painting should
come down or not. Because most people are ignorant to the fact that the
swastika was not only a Nazi symbol, symbolizing death and destruction, the
class decided to take the painting down and in actuality, the boy was forced
to take it down. This is a prime example of how the world delineates the
swastika as a bad symbol, and how the Nazis destroyed the meaning of the
symbol by adopting it as their own.
The swastika symbolizes so much more than what the Nazis planned. The
swastika existed as a symbol of good fortune thousands of years before the
Nazis even existed. The symbol is to many cultures an important one,
representing their history and beliefs. The Nazis, by taking the swastika,
annihilated the significance of the ancient symbol. Today, the swastika is
to most people a symbol of evil, a symbol of demise, and a symbol of
ruination. It is extremely depressing to find that although the swastika is
a symbol of life, and symbol of joy, it has been made a symbol of evil,
something the people of the ancient world never intended it to be.
Norma
"Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> wrote in message
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> Wow! Talk about Hysteria and Paranoia! That symbol was used as
> a religious symbol by American Indians and many others Centuries
> before Nazi Germany' 3rd Reich. I would however be very curious as
> just how the Nazi Regime came to use that symbol and what their
> interpretation of it was... Historical value etc... ;-)
When I was doing some searching about Hitler, it was clear that he chose it
himself. He was fascinated wtih religion, especially Catholicism, and when
that wasn't what he hoped it would be for him, the Swastika was chosen as a
symbol for him. If you look at it carefully, the symbol varies from place
to place (Indians versus other countries,) The Nazi Swastika was created
to be in the form of a "broken cross". He adopted it as a spiritual symbol
of his beliefs and party.
Norma
"Heinrich Mueller" <Hein...@Telekom.de> wrote in message
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As I stated to Mr. Ocean elsewhere, this symbol represented the "broken
cross" to Hitler. He had affinity for Catholicism at one time, when his
ideas were not accepted he turned to this symbol, which then did become the
anti-Semetic symbol. Therefore, when made to look like the symbol of the
Nazi Party, it is considered evil and hasn't been used for any other purpose
that anti-Semitic activities.
I have read multiple biographical accounts of the life of Adolph Hitler. He
was a very complex and unusual character. His psychological profile
certainly supports the fact that he would create and adopt a "mutilated"
swastika. The original swastika was usually respected as having a positive
spiritual meaning to those who use/used it. Norma
Heinrich Mueller
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> "Don Ocean" <oc...@amerion.com> wrote in message
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> > Wow! Talk about Hysteria and Paranoia! That symbol was used as
> > a religious symbol by American Indians and many others Centuries
> > before Nazi Germany' 3rd Reich. I would however be very curious as
> > just how the Nazi Regime came to use that symbol and what their
> > interpretation of it was... Historical value etc... ;-)
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> When I was doing some searching about Hitler, it was clear that he chose
it
> himself. He was fascinated wtih religion, especially Catholicism, and
when
> that wasn't what he hoped it would be for him, the Swastika was chosen as
a
> symbol for him. If you look at it carefully, the symbol varies from place
> to place (Indians versus other countries,) The Nazi Swastika was created
> to be in the form of a "broken cross". He adopted it as a spiritual
symbol
> of his beliefs and party.
what i know is that the sonnenrad and similar symbols were far more popular
overhere i had something to do with Ahnenerbe or something like that and had
something to do with the old germans and tribes living in scandinavia (
Sonewendefest) do you know the word Runen? those symbols were popular then
because they were very common and used in the early days of our people.
http://www.nordzeit.de/runen.htm
njb...@charter.net
Yes,I am familiar with the word. Thanks for the URLs.
We have a game here that incorporates something like these and we call
them Rune Stones. Actually, I have pieces of jewelry with replicas of
Rune stones and the carvings on them. Norma
Ed
"Heinrich Mueller" <Hein...@Telekom.de> wrote in message
I didn't know Don Ocean had been to Germany.....
Don Ocean
Sorry Ed...But I don't utilize snow shovels..
;-p But with your eysesight it wouldn't make any difference!
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Heinrich Mueller
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that is a coincidence my wife has those things too she uses it in connection
with tarot cards
Norma
"Heinrich Mueller" <Hein...@Telekom.de> wrote in message
I dabble a bit in those too. It is just a fun game. Norma
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Heinrich Mueller
serious business . it seems thsat the old mexicans (inca's)had the same sort
of symbols.