needed: a reverse tarot
DrYattz
a psychologist), I want to know what combination of tarot cards might
be expected for a person, speculating from my description of them.
I'm certain many of you have had the experience of meeting someone and
thinking "whew. . . that guy's Hanged Man must be inverted!" I'm
asking you to imagine a person (I'm calling Taylor) and to predict
what cards would be most likely to appear in the person's tarot
reading.
What assortment of tarot cards might you expect for this person:
____________________________________________
Taylor is very brilliant intellectually, but inhibited emotionally and
spiritually autistic. She thinks her way through life crises and
challenges, and because she’s very smart, she usually comes up with
good decisions. But the process is painstaking, time-consuming, and
frustrating, and occasionally terribly misguided. Paying no attention
to her “gut feelings,” she spends far too much time gathering
information and analyzing it from many perspectives. In
relationships, she lacks spontaneity, and is considered well-intended
and superficially pleasant but tense and nervous, incapable of just
“going with the flow.” She’s been betrayed and abandoned many times
by others who find it hard to make relationships “work” with her, and
in a vicious cycle, she responds to losses in love with even more
intense analysis and mental contemplation, making her even more
difficult to love. As a result, she never dates or seeks out intimate
contact with others, although she dresses stylishly and uses
cosmetics. Her dreams must be wild and frantic, because she wakes up
exhausted and moody most mornings, but she can never remember any
element of the dreams the night before, and dismisses dreams as
"neural noise." She is certain that anything involving mysticism,
like astrology or tarot, is bogus, and she’s skeptical of anything new
age. She regards herself as an atheist, and explains away religious
beliefs as silly and weak self-indulgences, but (unacknowledged to
herself or anyone) she actually longs for some kind of spiritual
revelation that can bring her hope and earn her some sort of
passionate love. Her emotional arousal in spiritually-loaded
situations frightens her, leaving her feeling out of control and
vulnerable. Miracles choke her up and bring her to tears, but she
laughs them off as tricks or misperceptions.
__________________________________________________
I'd like at least three: 1) something that represents her ideal for
herself, 2) something that represents her actual self, and 3)
something that represents her denied self. And, I'd like to use as
few inverted cards as possible.
Can anybody help me with this?
Dr. Yattz
SANTA SHAMAN HAS A TAROT GIFT FOR YOU
symbolic of difficult choices and learning of the consequences of our
actions (or inaction). She is blindfolded and as a result she feels
victimized by her circumstances.
This card indicates Taylor feels intimidated by her current situation.
She feels as though she is bound to something & wants to break free, but
is uncertain which direction to take. She fears that if she does one
thing instead of another she will lose out completely. She has a fear
of not making the correct decisions, and how they will effect her and
those close to her. She is battling with her mixed and changeable
emotions and struggling with her conscience and loneliness, By
experiencing these many emotional upheavals, she may feel that she will
lose no matter what she does.
Marianna...@gmail.com
> For a character in a novel I'm writing (in my spare time - I'm really
> a psychologist),
What is your astrological sign?
SantaShaman WOLS WebOfLifeStrand!
2) something that represents her actual self = The Queen of Swords
3) something that represents her denied self = The Devil
1) something that represents her ideal for herself = The High Priestess
2) something that represents her actual self = The Queen of Wands
3) something that represents her denied self = The Hanged Man
Santa Shaman hopes this helps Dr. Yattz.
DrYattz
>
> - Show quoted text -
Aries. Why d'ya ask?
Marianna...@gmail.com
> On Jul 2, 12:41 am, MariannaKaripi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 1, 7:36 am, DrYattz <winwin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > For a character in a novel I'm writing (in my spare time - I'm really
> > > a psychologist),
>
> > What is your astrological sign?
>
> > > I want to know what combination of tarot cards might
> > > be expected for a person, speculating from my description of them.
> > > I'm certain many of you have had the experience of meeting someone and
> > > thinking "whew. . . that guy's Hanged Man must be inverted!" I'm
> > > asking you to imagine a person (I'm calling Taylor) and to predict
> > > what cards would be most likely to appear in the person's tarot
> > > reading.
>
> > > What assortment of tarot cards might you expect for this person:
> > > ____________________________________________
>
> > > Taylor is very brilliant intellectually, but inhibited emotionally and
> > > spiritually autistic.
DrYattz, is autism a symtom of schizophrenia?
Aries? And psychologist? Oooooo!
>Why d'ya ask?- Hide quoted text -
DrYattz
Dr Yattz sends much appreciation to the merry mundunugu.
> DrYattz, is autism a symtom of schizophrenia?
"Autism" as a disorder is an impairment of development. As a
symptomatic descriptor, "autistic" can mean anything odd, eccentric,
or inadequate. So, autism is a different disorder that can resemble
and be mistaken for schizophrenia. In my description of Taylor, I
meant (by "spiritually autistic") that she is spiritually immature.
> Aries? And psychologist? Oooooo!
Hmmm.... What does that mean?
So, here's the rough, uneditted excerpt from the novel, inspired by
Santa Shaman. Taylor, lost in her mental machinations, has been drawn
to a gospel singer's voice she heard on the street, and has stumbled
mindlessly into an old church, empty but for Maizie the singer,
accompanied by pianist Mark. Taylor suddenly finds herself standing
in the aisle:
____________________________________________________________________
”Come this way, sister,” the woman interrupted. “Gimme your hands.
Let me hold onto them.”
Oh, I must not! This is not at all what I intended to be doing! I’m
busy in reflective contemplation, and this is an interruption that
certainly must be avoided. But, I’m. . . I’m feeling. . . I’m
needing. . . I want. . .
Taylor walked to stand in front of Maizie, and held out her hands.
When she saw that the singer waited a moment to reach out, then felt
around until their fingers touched, Taylor looked into her eyes and
saw the detached focus and dense gaze of a person that cannot see:
Maizie was obviously blind. Only then did Taylor really look at her,
and she immediately noticed that Maize sat in a wheelchair, one of her
legs ending mid-thigh, the other at the knee. “Walking with the
father. . .” I get it. This is some masochistic joke. She’d enjoy
walking with anyone, but that will never happen, and probably hasn’t
happened in a long time. Spirituality provides comfort for those who
cannot find it in the real world. Oddly - I feel my own legs shaking,
weakening. I want something here, something from her. . . I don’t
know what. . .
Maize felt slim fingers, smooth palms, delicate knuckles, limber
wrists. Fragile. . . tightly wrapped. . . but graceful. . . Taylor
responded clumsily to Maizie’s touch and caress, neither returning nor
rejoining it. Afraid to feel. . . afraid to be felt. . . “I know you
can’t make any sense out of this,” Maizie said calmly. “I
know. . .but iss awright. . . you’re awright. . . yer safe here with
me. . . jus’ stay with me a minute longer, OK?”
A slight shaking of her fingers told Maizie that Taylor was jerking
her head up and down, nodding stiffly with a little gasp. A scant
fidgeting came from near the piano: Mark may be unhappy with me
interrupting our practice, but he’ll get over it. He might even enjoy
witnessing this. . .
Firmly clutching Taylor’s hands, Maize felt a cold sharpness and
brittleness in each, which gave her the sense of holding steel sabers,
one in each hand. An image flashed: rigid and motionless, a
blindfolded woman stood before her, grasping a pair of blades. Two of
Swords. . . hiding her heart. . .
Maizie drew in a long, deep breath, and let it flow slowly out. “You
don’ wanna feel, so you don’t feel, but ifya could feel, ya know what
you’d be feelin’. You’d be feelin’ so much pain. . .so much
sadness. . .so much fear. So much. . .ain’ I right, sister? Ain’ I
right? ”
Taylor’s fingers trembled, as if suddenly naked and vulnerable, and
seemed to let go of what they held. Tears were dripping down her
cheeks, and there was a quiet choking in her throat and a shuddering
in her chest. As Maizie gripped and released them, the fingers of
Taylor’s left hand seemed to be clinging to something, as if holding a
shaft, while two fingers of her right hand were lighter, as if wanting
to rise free above Maizie’s. Maizie could picture the shaft, golden,
with three crossing spokes, and the male figure clenching it wore
robes and a crown. The Hierophant. . . longing for wisdom to fulfill
unmet needs. . .
“You’re so empty, so hungry. . . ya got no clue what ya need, but
your sooo needy. Ya wanna believe, you wish ya could believe, but ya
won’t let yourself. . . so ya stay hid up safe in your head . . . ain’
that right, sister? But yer head can’t fill yer heart, and it can’t
fill yer belly, and your spirit stays cold and lost and alone. Ya
gotta know, but ya don’t dare believe. . . ain’ I right?”
Now Taylor’s fingers relaxed, and held Maizie’s firmly but gently, as
if carrying something precious but strong and certain. What is it?
What’s she holding? Vague forms of light and dark appeared on either
side of a robed figure, and the moon hung overhead. Now, Maizie could
make out a crown with two horns on her head, and the held object
became a psalter. This is who she longs to be, to become. . . The
High Priestess. . . awakening senses. . . flowering mystery. . .
“Ya don’t feel yer pain, or yer fear, or yer need. . . ya don’t open
yer heart to yer hope, or yer faith. . . Ain’ I right? If ya could
hope, if ya could wonder, if ya could believe. . .ya could do so many
wonderful things. . . ya could be filled. . .ya could be redeemed.”
A figure approached from behind the princess, holding a wand overhead
with one hand, a cup in the other, a sword slung from his belt. . .
Ah, her Magician!
“And. . . ya could find love. Ain’ that what ya want, sister? Ain’
it? Don’ ya want to do great things, and to be fulfilled, and to be
redeemed, and to be loved? Ya do, doncha?”
Unseen by Maizie, Taylor was slowly nodding, a rhapsodic smile
between tears still streaming down her flushed cheeks, breath full and
flowing. Very slowly, she loosened her hold on Maizie’s fingers,
pulling her hands gradually away until their fingertips were barely
touching. Nearly a minute passed with nothing said, no movements
made. I’ve been holding my arms up for several minutes now. I hope
she’s about finished. . .
“Yes. . .” she finally spoke, letting her arms fall to her sides, and
Maizie dropped her into her lap. “I see now. . . I know what I have
to do. . .” Another silent, still minute. . . She’s taking it
in. . . sorting it out. . . letting go of some things, reclaiming
others. . . envisioning other things unknown and very new. . .
Taylor spoke again. “Can I come back, if I need to?”
“Why, YES, sister!” Maizie chortled. “Of course ya can. If you
wanna find me, and I’m not here, ask ‘em for Maizie. They’ll put you
through to me.”
Maizie heard Taylor’s heels clattering back up the aisle, again
stopping midway. She envisioned Taylor looking back over her
shoulder, expressing her appreciation without spoken words. Then the
footsteps resumed and faded away completely.
“Is she gone?” Maize whispered to Mark.
“Out the door,” he replied.
“Ummmm. . .” What began as a moan ended in a grunt. “Das’ hard
work.”
“It’s amazing! How do you do that?”
“Oh, I been at this a long, long time. Ever since I’s a kid, and my
friends thought I could read their minds.”
“Well, you can, can’t you?”
“Nah. . . minds don’ make much sense to me. I feel what people’r
feelin’, and catch glimpses of their souls. I use ta read the tarot,
when I’s called Mama Maize, the Mystic. Got real good at it. Then,
when my sugar took ma sight, I found out I din’t need the cards to
feel folk’s feelings ‘n see their souls. I see wuss called the
arcana, even without any cards. An’ if I can connect with them, they
see it, too. That seems to get ‘em goin’ where they need’ta go.”
____________________________________________________________________________
Marianna...@gmail.com
> >Santa Shaman hopes this helps Dr. Yattz.
>
> Dr Yattz sends much appreciation to the merry mundunugu.
>
> > DrYattz, is autism a symtom of schizophrenia?
>
> "Autism" as a disorder is an impairment of development. As a
> symptomatic descriptor, "autistic" can mean anything odd, eccentric,
> or inadequate. So, autism is a different disorder that can resemble
> and be mistaken for schizophrenia. In my description of Taylor, I
> meant (by "spiritually autistic") that she is spiritually immature.
>
> > Aries? And psychologist? Oooooo!
>
> Hmmm.... What does that mean?
Oooooo!= It means the Greek omega here, i.e.,
Omega, omega, omega, omega, omega, omega!= Surprise, ...
> ____________________________________________________________________________
Al Smith
> Omega, omega, omega, omega, omega, omega!= Surprise, ...
Omega = O my God :-)
-Al-
DrYattz
Whew. . . now I'm really confused!
O my God :-) O my God :-) O my God :-) O my God :-) O my God :-)
O my God :-) : never in my many years of practice have I inspired
such divine incantations in anyone.
Now, omega also means resistance (in physics), and it symbolized
resistance to the Viet Nam war in the 60s; perhaps you are extremely
resistant toward me because I'm an Aries shrink.
Then again, in asymptotic behavior of mathematics functions, omega
refers to the Big O. . . do you get multi-orgasmic over therapeutic
rams?
But in cosmology, it refers to density parameters of the universe;
maybe you're calling me dense?
DrYattz ;-}
PS: Truth be told, I think astrology is total bullshit . . . but then
again, that's because I'm an Aries, right?
Marianna...@gmail.com
> On Jul 3, 12:57 pm, Al Smith <inva...@address.com> wrote:
>
> > > Oooooo!= It means the Greek omega here, i.e.,
> > > Omega, omega, omega, omega, omega, omega!= Surprise, ...
>
> > Omega = O my God :-)
>
> > -Al-
>
> Whew. . . now I'm really confused!
Don't put a comma next to the omega.Just remember that
the O is the Greek omega.
> O my God :-) O my God :-) O my God :-) O my God :-) O my God :-)
> O my God :-) : never in my many years of practice have I inspired
> such divine incantations in anyone.
>
> Now, omega also means resistance (in physics), and it symbolized
> resistance to the Viet Nam war in the 60s; perhaps you are extremely
> resistant toward me because I'm an Aries shrink.
>
> Then again, in asymptotic behavior of mathematics functions, omega
> refers to the Big O. . . do you get multi-orgasmic over therapeutic
> rams?
>
> But in cosmology, it refers to density parameters of the universe;
> maybe you're calling me dense?
>
> DrYattz ;-}
Zmithara, I think DrYattz is talking to you :-)
>
> PS: Truth be told, I think astrology is total bullshit . . . but then
> again, that's because I'm an Aries, right?
No, No! DrYattz,you should change your story and say that Taylor is a
man.
SantaShaman WOLS WebOfLifeStrand!
Santa Shaman has something to take your breath away. A vision of
loveliness. A picture of Marianna.
I hope this inspired a divine incantation in you.
DrYattz also wrote, "Perhaps you are extremely resistant toward me
because I'm an Aries shrink."
Santa Shaman says, "I doubt it since my Master's thesis was titled,
"The Psychoanalytical Schools of Thought"!"
DrYattz asks, "Do you get multi-orgasmic over therapeutic rams?
Santa Shaman says, "No, once a day for my prostate health is enough for
me!"
DrYattz questions, "Maybe you're calling me dense?"
Santa Shaman says, "Jk the King of the alt.tarot Flamers might, but not
I,"
DrYattz PS: Truth be told, I think astrology is total bullshit . . ."
Santa Shaman asks, "Is Shamanism BS¿"
http://community.webtv.net/coolBea/BULLSHITREPELLENT
Is DrYattz just a psychotherapist or just a psychologist¿
Shamanaste! Santa Shaman
Marianna...@gmail.com
WebOfLifeStrand!) wrote:
> On Jul 4, 2008, 3:36 a.m. DrYattz wrote,
> "Whew. . . now I'm really confused!"
>
> Santa Shaman has something to take your breath away. A vision of
> loveliness. A picture of Marianna.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/29576m
>
Ah, ah, Gypsy, you are funny...
> I hope this inspired a divine incantation in you.
>
> DrYattz also wrote, "Perhaps you are extremely resistant toward me
> because I'm an Aries shrink."
>
> Santa Shaman says, "I doubt it since my Master's thesis was titled,
> "The Psychoanalytical Schools of Thought"!"
>
> DrYattz asks, "Do you get multi-orgasmic over therapeutic rams?
>
> Santa Shaman says, "No, once a day for my prostate health is enough for
> me!"
>
> DrYattz questions, "Maybe you're calling me dense?"
>
> Santa Shaman says, "Jk the King of the alt.tarot Flamers might, but not
> I,"
>
> DrYattz PS: Truth be told, I think astrology is total bullshit . . ."
>
> Santa Shaman asks, "Is Shamanism BS¿" http://community.webtv.net/coolBea/BULLSHITREPELLENT
>
> Is DrYattz just a psychotherapist or just a psychologist¿
Let me find out...,
Psychotherapist, Psychotherapist, Psychotherapist,..., No, No. He is
not
a psychotherapist
Psychologist, psychologist, psychologist,...No, No. He is not a
Psychologist.
Aaaa, he is a collector. He collects a lot of things...:-)
> Shamanaste! Santa Shaman
Marianna...@gmail.com
SantaShaman WOLS WebOfLifeStrand!
On Sat, July 5, 2008, 6:35am (CDT-2) Administratrix wrote, "Oooooo!= It
means the Greek omega." Goldsmith wrote "Omega=O my God! :-)." Spell
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Wooed! Omegaomega =Amalgamate, Awesomely, Cameramen, Demagogues,
Homecomers, Megalomania, Megalomaniac and Phenomena. Demagogues,
Homecomers, AlSmith = Goldsmith, Blemish, Flemish, Plymouth, Azimuth,
Bismuth, Calamity, Delimit, Delimits & Dolomite.
MariannaKaripidou = Administratrix, Immensurability, Microanalytical,
Parallelepiped, Parliamentarian, Parliamentarily, Pyrimidine,
Radiotelegraphy, Radiotelegraphs and Organizationally
DrYattz
loveliness. A picture of Marianna.
>I hope this inspired a divine incantation in you.
Indeed! All she needs is an apple. . .
>DrYattz also wrote, "Perhaps you are extremely resistant toward me
because I'm an Aries shrink."
>Santa Shaman says, "I doubt it since my Master's thesis was titled,
"The Psychoanalytical Schools of Thought"!"
Actually, that was intended for Marianna. But your Masters' topic
certainly puts resistance in a different light.
>DrYattz asks, "Do you get multi-orgasmic over therapeutic rams?
>Santa Shaman says, "No, once a day for my prostate health is enough for
me!"
Again, intended for Marianna, but nice to know you're taking good care
of yourself. Nonetheless, multiple orgasms do no not appear to be
related to the incidence of prostrate disorder - at least, cancer.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2251222?ordinalpos=16&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
>DrYattz questions, "Maybe you're calling me dense?"
>Santa Shaman says, "Jk the King of the alt.tarot Flamers might, but not
I,"
Don't know King Jk.
>DrYattz PS: Truth be told, I think astrology is total bullshit . . ."
>Santa Shaman asks, "Is Shamanism BS¿"
http://community.webtv.net/coolBea/BULLSHITREPELLENT
Not at all. At least, no more so than psychology. (Actually, I
originally studied to be an anthropologist, but got sidetracked. . .)
>Is DrYattz just a psychotherapist or just a psychologist¿
A psychologist and and a psychotherapist, striving in each role to be
just. But neither are just; I'm also a musician and a photographer
and a writer and a small-scale activist (amomg other things).
DrYattz
Marianna...@gmail.com
> >Santa Shaman has something to take your breath away. A vision of
>
> loveliness. A picture of Marianna.
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/29576m
> >I hope this inspired a divine incantation in you.
>
> Indeed! All she needs is an apple. ..
Ah, ah, DrYattz, you make mistakes when you do things in a hurry.
All she needs is the manuscript of Hippocrates.
Unfortunately for you,DrYattz, you can't read Greek. I wil send you
the English link...
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Oath_of_Hippocrates
Read it now!
Written 400 B.C.E
I SWEAR by Apollo the physician, and Aesculapius, and Health, and All-
heal, and all the gods and goddesses, that, according to my ability
and judgment, I will keep this Oath and this stipulation- to reckon
him who taught me this Art equally dear to me as my parents, to share
my substance with him, and relieve his necessities if required; to
look upon his offspring in the same footing as my own brothers, and to
teach them this art, if they shall wish to learn it, without fee or
stipulation; and that by precept, lecture, and every other mode of
instruction, I will impart a knowledge of the Art to my own sons, and
those of my teachers, and to disciples bound by a stipulation and oath
according to the law of medicine, but to none others.
I will follow that system of regimen which, according to my ability
and judgment, I consider for the benefit of my patients, and abstain
from whatever is deleterious and mischievous. I will give no deadly
medicine to any one if asked, nor suggest any such counsel; and in
like manner I will not give to a woman a pessary to produce abortion.
With purity and with holiness I will pass my life and practice my Art.
I will not cut persons laboring under the stone, but will leave this
to be done by men who are practitioners of this work.
Into whatever houses I enter, I will go into them for the benefit of
the sick, and will abstain from every voluntary act of mischief and
corruption; and, further from the seduction of females or males, of
freemen and slaves.
Whatever, in connection with my professional practice, or not in
connection with it, I see or hear, in the life of men, which ought not
to be spoken of abroad, I will not divulge, as reckoning that all such
should be kept secret.
While I continue to keep this Oath unviolated, may it be granted to me
to enjoy life and the practice of the art, respected by all men, in
all times! But should I trespass and violate this Oath, may the
reverse be my lot!
Retrieved from "http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Oath_of_Hippocrates"
>
> >DrYattz also wrote, "Perhaps you are extremely resistant toward me
>
> because I'm an Aries shrink."
>
> >Santa Shaman says, "I doubt it since my Master's thesis was titled,
>
> "The Psychoanalytical Schools of Thought"!"
>
> Actually, that was intended for Marianna. But your Masters' topic
> certainly puts resistance in a different light.
>
> >DrYattz asks, "Do you get multi-orgasmic over therapeutic rams?
> >Santa Shaman says, "No, once a day for my prostate health is enough for
>
> me!"
>
> Again, intended for Marianna, but nice to know you're taking good care
> of yourself. Nonetheless, multiple orgasms do no not appear to be
> related to the incidence of prostrate disorder - at least, cancer.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2251222?ordinalpos=16&itool=Entrez...
Marianna...@gmail.com
> On Jul 5, 10:56 pm, DrYattz <winwin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >Santa Shaman has something to take your breath away. A vision of
>
> > loveliness. A picture of Marianna.
>
> > >http://tinyurl.com/29576m
> > >I hope this inspired a divine incantation in you.
>
> > Indeed! All she needs is an apple. ..
>
> Ah, ah, DrYattz, you make mistakes when you do things in a hurry.
>
> All she needs is the manuscript of Hippocrates.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Goddess Hygeia= Goddess of Health
SANTA SHAMAN HAS A TAROT GIFT FOR YOU
<EMBED
SRC="http://www.angelfire.com/md/elanmichaels/MIDI/ThroughEagleEyes.mid">
IX Hermit = Body: This is the card of inner wisdom, knowing yourself and
in regards to health it speaks of using your intuition to guide you and
to find out what your body/mind/soul are in need of to be healthy. Even
with the advances of medicine etc. ultimately it is you who have the
greatest knowledge about your own body and how it is functioning. When
this card comes up it asks you to get in touch with yourself and know
your bodies signals better.
Eight of Pentacles = Mind:This is a card of a skilled person working a
trade or craft. Hard work, persistence without instant gratification or
immediate results. This person's efforts will pay off ultimately, but
there will have to be strength of will and persistence because it will
not happen immediately. This card speaks of consciously focusing the
mind and remaining determined.
II High Priestess = Soul: represents wisdom, inner knowing/intuition. At
times you are gifted with an innate sense of what is right and what to
do provided your emotions and "what if" type thoughts don't cause you to
second guess yourself. The Priestess is a card of a strong woman, one
who can remove herself from distractions and access the still small
voice within herself - her connection to her Source for wisdom in times
of need.
Note: If DrYattz is a man then this card represents his feminine (left
brain) side.
DrYattz
maligned. . .
___________________________________________________________________
Marianna:
Earlier, you said: "No, No! DrYattz,you should change your story and
say that Taylor is a man." I'm curious about this. How does it
follow from my Aries signage, or my rejection of astrology?
>Ah, ah, DrYattz, you make mistakes when you do things in a hurry.
Indeed! Even more in ignorance. The Collier image I recognized as
Lilith, whom I clumsily assumed to be the equivalent of Eve.
>All she needs is the manuscript of Hippocrates.
There's my ignorance. . . I don't get the Lilith <> Hippocratic
association.
>Unfortunately for you,DrYattz, you can't read Greek. I wil send you
the English link...
You assume I can't read Greek, a problematic assumption in that I
studied it in high school. But, you're be right: I really can't read
Greek anymore. Can you?
>Read it now!
Actually, it's something I've needed to do, and I appreciate the
reminder.
>Written 400 B.
And, while it provides some wonderful essential principles for
practitioners of the healing arts, it is neither law nor divine
proclamation - it is ethic, and as such, must evolve with humanity.
Which is why certain proclamations are no longer universally
respected:
"To consider dear to me, as my parents, him who taught me this art; to
live in common with him and, if necessary, to share my goods with him;
To look upon his children as my own brothers, to teach them this
art." Now, few practictioners still reside at their med schools and
teach their professors' kids free of charge."
"To please no one will I prescribe a deadly drug nor give advice which
may cause his death." But if death is part of the vital cycle, it may
be important at times to facilitate it. Many modern physicians
accomplish Kevorkian interventions with some regularity, to alleviate
suffering as death approaches.
"Nor will I give a woman a pessary to procure abortion." We forgive
Hippocrates, I assume, for failing to keep up with feminist lore.
"In every house where I come I will enter only for the good of my
patients, keeping myself far from all intentional ill-doing and all
seduction and especially from the pleasures of love with women or with
men. . ." Which means a doctor can never go into anyone's house,
patient or otherwise, with the intention of love's pleasures? How did
physicians ever have the children their students were obliged to
teach?
And I won't trust my organism to a healer "who swears by Apollo,
Asclepius, Hygieia, and Panacea." I want him/her to have other
guiding forces in mind.
Am I being flamed here, albeit gently and respectfully? If so, did I
say something that offended you? If so, I apologize. . .
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Santa:
> SRC="http://www.angelfire.com/md/elanmichaels/MIDI/ThroughEagleEyes.mid">
Cool. Very cool.
> Note: If DrYattz is a man then this card represents his feminine (left
> brain) side.
Actually, the pop-psych belief is that the left cerebral hemisphere
(generally containing verbal functions and linear reasoning) is more
masculine, the right brain (more visual, spatial, musical) being
feminine. I've always believed they got it wrong; I believe it is an
artifact of culture which places greater value on certain skills, and
assigns such skills to gender. But, yes, my spiritual processes are
part of my feminine side. And, yes, I'm a man.
Are these cards you've drawn for me, or cards you believe best
represent my arcana?
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DrYattz
schizobeck
First off, I'd say the Sun card is a major issue here by your
reference to "gathering
information" because the (1. SUN) card is noted as the "collective"
intelligence by Paul Foster Case in "A Key to the Wisdom of the Ages".
Second, you might want to see if you and Taylor are incompatible
signs, because many people find most aspects of the Sun card
delightful and appropriate, a happy card, yet you seem to think her
focus on "collective" intelligence is hindering her.
Also, I'm really just guessing on this, but I am familiar with the
Libra sign because it is my sign and Libras LOVE examining all the
evidence and making the best choice from what is available. If she is
not a Libra, perhaps there is a major Libra influence somewhere in her
astrological charts (I'm not an astrologer, so ask one if you want to
pursue that).
So, as a Libra looking at just the first bit of your case scenario,
I'd say that might not be what the problem is. Also, if a tarot
reader wants to learn more about cards in reverse, simply turn the
deck upside down and deal. Cards in reverse are not "opposites" of
themselves, they are actually the same aspects of the card in smaller
quantities. (I'll read on now, one moment please).
Next, I'd say 'the incapable of just “going with the flow.”' may
represent (2. Strength). Depending on how she's been raised, she may
need the Strength card if she's had domineering, overcontrolling
parents to try to carve out a little something for herself or if she's
had the opposite, if she's neglected or not well-tended she may need
the Strength card to set things just the way she needs them to be
because nobody else is going to do it. Also, I would not see this as
an unfavorable trait under those circumstances, of course if she's the
one controlling everyone else there may be a problem (please note,
rarely are parents a good decider of if a child is controlling them --
so often parents blame everything on the kids).
'She’s been betrayed and abandoned many times
> by others who find it hard to make relationships “work” with her, and
> in a vicious cycle, she responds to losses in love with even more
> intense analysis and mental contemplation, making her even more
> difficult to love.'
I won't assign a card to this because I think its hateful. She either
isn't zodiacally compatible with those who have complained or those
who have complained or mean spirited and they should ethically leave
her alone. It's disgusting to say that a person who likes thinking
about his or her current situation is unlovable. There are tons of
people compatible with anybody all over the planet, you should
seriously refer this girl to another psychiatrist if you feel she is
unlovable. I'd question your credentials, but maybe you just need to
work on some areas like empathy or something or perhaps you have a
tendency to lean towards the chavinistic side which I won't say has to
do her any harm because a chauvinist might say "Oh, she's a girl, cut
her a break", though many would pursue countless hateful things to
prove a point (much like a closet gay) -- if you personally feel she
is unlovable, talk to some colleagues who have an ideally compatible
sign for her sign.
'As a result, she never dates or seeks out intimate
> contact with others, although she dresses stylishly and uses
> cosmetics. Her dreams must be wild and frantic, because she wakes up
> exhausted and moody most mornings, but she can never remember any
> element of the dreams the night before, and dismisses dreams as
> "neural noise." She is certain that anything involving mysticism,
> like astrology or tarot, is bogus, and she’s skeptical of anything new
> age. '
Sometimes, one's own company is preferable to that of others,
especially when there are too many domineering authority figures in
the picture. As for the sleep disturbance, be sure her sleep isn't
being interrupted by sexual abuse. Sometimes a person is tired,
simply because they are tired. Her putting mysticism and religion on
the taboo list, may simply be a part of her upbringing -- many times,
kids just know what they are allowed to know. Seeking solitude would
definitely represent (3. The Hermit) card and while seeking solitude
is not always regarded as ideal, it's a perfectly normal response to
any number of occurrences and the length of time is not always the
same, many people resume what was their "normal" activity years later
and when asked, they say they wouldn't change a minute of it.
Well, there are 3 cards for you, you decide what category to put them
in and remember what I said about the reversed cards. From what I've
learned in my studies, a tarot reader should repack the deck of cards,
turning the reverse cards back upright in numerical order starting
with 0 The Fool and ending with the court cards, then for a new
reading you're shuffling with a "new" deck. Of course, reverse cards
happen on occasion, but they are not the norm, or if you're in the
middle of something and want to save them as is, I suppose that's fine
too. Good luck with your novel. =)
schizobeck
"stumbled
mindlessly into an old church"
MINDLESSLY? Why spend so much time writing verbiage about a character
you so clearly do not care for?
schizobeck
If Taylor is a Libra, then you are not in the top 3 most compatible
signs for her since you are an Aries, that being said, you are not in
the bottom 3 either.
Marianna...@gmail.com
>
> loveliness. A picture of Marianna.
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/29576m
> >I hope this inspired a divine incantation in you.
>
> Indeed! All she needs is an apple. . .
>
> >DrYattz also wrote, "Perhaps you are extremely resistant toward me
>
> because I'm an Aries shrink."
>
> >Santa Shaman says, "I doubt it since my Master's thesis was titled,
>
> "The Psychoanalytical Schools of Thought"!"
>
> Actually, that was intended for Marianna. But your Masters' topic
> certainly puts resistance in a different light.
>
> >DrYattz asks, "Do you get multi-orgasmic over therapeutic rams?
> >Santa Shaman says, "No, once a day for my prostate health is enough for
>
> me!"
>
> Again, intended for Marianna, but nice to know you're taking good care
> of yourself.
Aaaaa, that was intended for me...
Zmithara, Zmithara, come back, come back..., DrYattz was not talking
to you. :-)
>Nonetheless, multiple orgasms do no not appear to be
> related to the incidence of prostrate disorder - at least, cancer.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2251222?ordinalpos=16&itool=Entrez...
Baird Stafford
<32630b86-8686-43b0...@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
DrYattz <winw...@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
> I'd like at least three: 1) something that represents her ideal for
> herself, 2) something that represents her actual self, and 3)
> something that represents her denied self. And, I'd like to use as
> few inverted cards as possible.
In the order given: Knight of Swords; Queen of Swords; Queen of Cups.
Blessed be,
Baird
Marianna...@gmail.com
> In article
> <32630b86-8686-43b0-a3db-894bfe4e8...@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
>
> DrYattz <winwin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > I'd like at least three: 1) something that represents her ideal for
> > herself, 2) something that represents her actual self, and 3)
> > something that represents her denied self. And, I'd like to use as
> > few inverted cards as possible.
>
> In the order given: Knight of Swords; Queen of Swords; Queen of Cups.
>
> Blessed be,
> Baird
DrYattz is still in the Parthenon :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjkMjgevCM0&feature=related
Marianna...@gmail.com
> >Santa Shaman hopes this helps Dr. Yattz.
>
> Dr Yattz sends much appreciation to the merry mundunugu.
>
> > DrYattz, is autism a symtom of schizophrenia?
>
> "Autism" as a disorder is an impairment of development. As a
> symptomatic descriptor, "autistic" can mean anything odd, eccentric,
> or inadequate. So, autism is a different disorder that can resemble
> and be mistaken for schizophrenia. In my description of Taylor, I
> meant (by "spiritually autistic") that she is spiritually immature.
Ooooo, I see :
http://www.noesi.gr/node/190
or
> ____________________________________________________________________________
Marianna...@gmail.com
> Again. . . confused. . . feeling perhaps misunderstood. . . maybe
> maligned. . .
> ___________________________________________________________________
>
> Marianna:
>
> Earlier, you said: "No, No! DrYattz,you should change your story and
> say that Taylor is a man." I'm curious about this. How does it
> follow from my Aries signage, or my rejection of astrology?
Autism occurs around the world, all races, ethnicities and social
classes.
Four to five people with autism are male (boys).
>
> >Ah, ah, DrYattz, you make mistakes when you do things in a hurry.
>
> Indeed! Even more in ignorance. The Collier image I recognized as
> Lilith, whom I clumsily assumed to be the equivalent of Eve.
>
> >All she needs is the manuscript of Hippocrates.
>
> There's my ignorance. . . I don't get the Lilith <> Hippocratic
> association.
>
> >Unfortunately for you,DrYattz, you can't read Greek. I wil send you
>
> the English link...
>
> You assume I can't read Greek, a problematic assumption in that I
> studied it in high school. But, you're be right: I really can't read
> Greek anymore. Can you?
Of course I can. I am not good in English (although I got 99% on my
English test
19 years ago in a community college, I didn't continue...), but I am
good in Greek,
especially in spelling.
> ____________________________________________________________________________
>
> DrYattz