From: "Dag T. Hoelseth" <dag...@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:20:58 -0700
Local: Tues, Aug 14 2007 5:20 am
Subject: Re: Norway: "Princess [Martha Louise] claims clairvoyant powers, aims to share them"
On Aug 13, 4:28 pm, Jan Böhme <jan.bo...@sh.se> wrote:
> On 13 Aug, 13:41, "Dag T. Hoelseth" <dag...@yahoo.com> wrote:I think you sums it up quite well.
> > "Calls were spreading on Monday for Princess Martha Louise to give up
> The way I see it, there is a conflict of propriety in three different
> 1) While members of a Royal Family might well be engaged in various
> 2) Princes or Princesses should always try to abstain from activities
> 3) Wherever there is an Established Church, Princes or Princesses in
> While I wouldn't think that angels as such are anathema to theHow could their position in the line of succession come into
> teachings of the Church of Norway - they are not to the Church of
> Sweden, anyway - it is quite clear that the angels that Princess
> Märtha Louise is trying to make money out of, are not ordinary
> Christian angels, but more some kind of New Age mumbo-jumbo.
> And I'm actually more concerned with the blatant promotion of mumbo-
discussion? Anyway, the way the Constitution Art. 6 is worded,
Princess Märtha Louise's and her children's place in the line of
succession is very theoretical (when Princess Ingrid Alexandra
succeeds the Märtha Louise line will be wiped out).
> But she would still remain her parent's daughter,Yes, that would be one solution, but it doesn't solve the entire
> and be percieved as such by the public. And having a daughter - or,
> potentially, sister - of the King making money out of pure
> superstition does permanently damage the credibility of the monarchy,
> irrespective of what actual constitutional role, if any, that has been
> designed for this person.
> So I don't think that she should give up her Royal position. That
problem. The business venture was problematic also before "the angel
school" became known, and might continue to cause trouble for the
royal house, and Princess Märtha Louise's religious beliefs will not
go away... Again, because of her theoretical place in the line of
succession it would strictly speaking not become a real issue until
the unlikely situation that she succeeded to the throne. Well, as I
said earlier, the Palace should at least state that the princess would
not have any engagement connected to the state church. So far the
Palace is rather silent...
One aspect of the controverse which the media (almost) never mentions
> Because there's this other thing, too. She's got these exemptions fromTwice? What was the second? Well, I guess you are thinking about the
> local development ordnances not once, but twice in the last years, on
> the grounds that she has special needs as a royal. If she were to be
> formally excluded from the RF, the debate about this would be re-
> opened - if it was ever completely closed.
summer place at Bloksbjerg as well? Those cases are closed and cannot
be re-opened. But the security problem will of course not go away.
Dag T. Hoelseth
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