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  <title type="text">alt.talk.royalty Google Group</title>
  <subtitle type="text">
  Discussion of royalty and nobility.
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  <updated>2008-07-08T12:55:07Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Tim</name>
  <email>a.windem...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-08T12:55:07Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/05c7b7196ef3c828/62a4b55f554437a6?show_docid=62a4b55f554437a6</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/05c7b7196ef3c828/62a4b55f554437a6?show_docid=62a4b55f554437a6"/>
  <title type="text">Re: King Wesley</title>
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  Many localities recognise the legal validity of various types of &lt;br&gt; common-law marriage. The criteria for recognition varies from locality &lt;br&gt; to locality. Are the offspring of common-law marriages still in the &lt;br&gt; Order of Succession ? If so, what distinguishes the offspring of such &lt;br&gt; a marriage from the offspring of a cohabiting couple, or even from a
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Tom Wilding / Stephen Stillwell</name>
  <email>thomas.wild...@cox.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-08T03:59:30Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/bb5e15df447c80ef/e8dc08489a8d9617?show_docid=e8dc08489a8d9617</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/bb5e15df447c80ef/e8dc08489a8d9617?show_docid=e8dc08489a8d9617"/>
  <title type="text">Own Grandfather</title>
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  How about Hakon Eirikson, Jarl of Lade or Trondelag &amp;amp; Hlathir (d.1030)? He &lt;br&gt; was Regent of Norway 1012-15 &amp;amp; 1028-29. &lt;br&gt; Firstly sharing the office with Sveinn Hakonarson &amp;amp; then with Canute the &lt;br&gt; Great. &lt;br&gt; Wikipedia makes some interesting comments about his family tree. &lt;br&gt; Wikipedia says that he was the son of Eirik Hakonson &amp;amp; Gytha, daughter of
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Nemo</name>
  <email>brokenj...@linuxmail.org</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-07T18:40:53Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/e4b17f642bef90a8/15aacbaefa83f9cd?show_docid=15aacbaefa83f9cd</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/e4b17f642bef90a8/15aacbaefa83f9cd?show_docid=15aacbaefa83f9cd"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Royals now cost 4 pence a year more than last year !</title>
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  Just in case you haven&#39;t managed to work out what happened yet &amp;quot;Google &lt;br&gt; groups&amp;quot; broke your thread. If you lack the skills to use a proper &lt;br&gt; newsclient/newsreader then the problem will stay where originated, at &lt;br&gt; your keyboard.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Joseph McMillan</name>
  <email>mcmillan...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-07T17:01:29Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/06dd31fc952493fe/335b68bd668f5bc5?show_docid=335b68bd668f5bc5</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/06dd31fc952493fe/335b68bd668f5bc5?show_docid=335b68bd668f5bc5"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Coats of arms for ex and or attainted peers</title>
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  According to a former staff member of the College of Arms, posting in &lt;br&gt; the American Heraldry Society forum some time ago, a peer who &lt;br&gt; renounces his peerage also loses the use of any &amp;quot;accidents&amp;quot; of peerage &lt;br&gt; included in the arms, specifically the supporters, coronet, and barred &lt;br&gt; helm. He keeps the shield and crest and displays them with the helm
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Joseph McMillan</name>
  <email>mcmillan...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-07T16:53:07Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/05c7b7196ef3c828/ee96a663edbefa8e?show_docid=ee96a663edbefa8e</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/05c7b7196ef3c828/ee96a663edbefa8e?show_docid=ee96a663edbefa8e"/>
  <title type="text">Re: King Wesley</title>
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  On Jul 7, 9:52 am, &amp;quot;Tom Wilding / Stephen Stillwell&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; I wonder if Wesley Berger really thinks Ft. Bragg is in Texas, or if &lt;br&gt; we&#39;re just seeing the Daily Mail&#39;s usual high standards of accuracy at &lt;br&gt; work. &lt;br&gt; Of course, as Alexander McCall Smith&#39;s Moritz Maria von Igelfeld &lt;br&gt; hypothesized, one American state must be pretty much the same as any
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Nemo</name>
  <email>brokenj...@linuxmail.org</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-07T15:07:33Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/e4b17f642bef90a8/c28e35e212cbb191?show_docid=c28e35e212cbb191</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/e4b17f642bef90a8/c28e35e212cbb191?show_docid=c28e35e212cbb191"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Royals now cost 4 pence a year more than last year !</title>
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  Did I delete the alt.talk.royalty group in my post to CJ buyers? are you &lt;br&gt; sure that&#39;s what I did? &lt;br&gt; This is just another one of your assumptions, a claim you have made &lt;br&gt; without even bothering to look at the headers to my post, if you look &lt;br&gt; you will see that the newsgroups listed are, &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;Newsgroups:uk.politics.misc, scot.politics, alt.talk.royalty.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Tom Wilding / Stephen Stillwell</name>
  <email>thomas.wild...@cox.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-07T13:52:10Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/05c7b7196ef3c828/e4a7acd0d2d610d7?show_docid=e4a7acd0d2d610d7</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/05c7b7196ef3c828/e4a7acd0d2d610d7?show_docid=e4a7acd0d2d610d7"/>
  <title type="text">King Wesley</title>
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  Thought some of you would enjoy this. It is about people down the line in &lt;br&gt; the British succession. &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1032652/The-West-Country-travel-agents-wife-612th-line-throne-unlikely-Britons-list-royal-succession.html&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Dom</name>
  <email>dr...@teikyopost.edu</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-07T12:56:33Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/f795e2654c2a9f63/ee5eb5829742842e?show_docid=ee5eb5829742842e</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/f795e2654c2a9f63/ee5eb5829742842e?show_docid=ee5eb5829742842e"/>
  <title type="text">Re: the &quot;4th of July&quot;, 1776, &quot;declaration&quot;: a Bible perspective</title>
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  As I pointed out 8 years ago, there are truly fascinating parallels &lt;br&gt; between the Declarations against James II, which are now available at: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.jacobite.ca/documents/16890213.htm&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; and at &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.jacobite.ca/documents/16890411.htm&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; and the charges against George III contained in the Declaration of
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <email>r...@rickhutto.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-06T18:48:24Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/723d43146255b344/de51dee52a35d38a?show_docid=de51dee52a35d38a</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/723d43146255b344/de51dee52a35d38a?show_docid=de51dee52a35d38a"/>
  <title type="text">Mme. Musard &amp; King Willem III of the Netherlands</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Does anyone have information about an American-born woman (her maiden &lt;br&gt; name was Blakeney and she was from Rockland County, New York), Mme. &lt;br&gt; Musard, whose French husband was a musical conductor and violinist? &lt;br&gt; She was a mistress of King Willem III and became quite wealthy through &lt;br&gt; her association with him until she indiscreetly told of his plans in
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Nemo</name>
  <email>brokenj...@linuxmail.org</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-06T14:09:29Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/e4b17f642bef90a8/d0c3d39270d64859?show_docid=d0c3d39270d64859</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/e4b17f642bef90a8/d0c3d39270d64859?show_docid=d0c3d39270d64859"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Royals now cost 4 pence a year more than last year !</title>
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  The post to which I replied was posted to scot.politics, I replied to &lt;br&gt; scot.politics.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>David</name>
  <email>ds...@softhome.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-06T12:56:49Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/a82891b09dd1bcae/5b17ca477d5de836?show_docid=5b17ca477d5de836</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/a82891b09dd1bcae/5b17ca477d5de836?show_docid=5b17ca477d5de836"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Durchlaucht/Serene Highness in Danish (was Re: Denmark: Marriage between Prince Joachim and Miss Marie Cavallier)</title>
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  In these letters, _Celsitudo Vestra_ is used to directly address &lt;br&gt; rulers above the rank of Count and below the rank of King (kings are &lt;br&gt; _Majestas Vestra_). The Duke of Savoy is _Celsitudo Vestra Regalis_. &lt;br&gt; (The order of the words is not prescribed; Vestra Celsitudo Regalis, &lt;br&gt; Regalis Vestra Celsitudo are also found). I do not find &amp;quot;serena&amp;quot; or
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>edespalais@yahoo.fr</name>
  <email>edespal...@yahoo.fr</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-06T11:41:50Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/a82891b09dd1bcae/d443693c0f821643?show_docid=d443693c0f821643</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/a82891b09dd1bcae/d443693c0f821643?show_docid=d443693c0f821643"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Durchlaucht/Serene Highness in Danish (was Re: Denmark: Marriage between Prince Joachim and Miss Marie Cavallier)</title>
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  The Germans were at least sometime extremely unpopular in Denmark; &lt;br&gt; their language therefore also. &lt;br&gt; In Germany, plus Liechtenstein, etc you have sovereign Houses who were &lt;br&gt; titled “Durchlaucht”, I believe. A minimum of relations - despite &lt;br&gt; unpopularity - had to exist. The German language may not have been
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Dag T. Hoelseth</name>
  <email>dh...@nospam.online.no</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-06T11:16:33Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/a82891b09dd1bcae/749fe27e8033efd3?show_docid=749fe27e8033efd3</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/a82891b09dd1bcae/749fe27e8033efd3?show_docid=749fe27e8033efd3"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Durchlaucht/Serene Highness in Danish (was Re: Denmark: Marriage between Prince Joachim and Miss Marie Cavallier)</title>
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  &amp;quot;CJ Buyers&amp;quot; &amp;lt;susuha...@hotmail.co.uk&amp;gt; skrev i melding &lt;br&gt; Well, I didn&#39;t make those claims in the first place, but only explained the &lt;br&gt; reasons behind the usage of the style Højhed (Highness) instead of the &lt;br&gt; old-fashioned &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;Durchlaucthighed&amp;quot; (Serene Highness) for Princess Benedikte&#39;s husband the &lt;br&gt; Prince of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg and his 3 children. The court has just
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Jellore</name>
  <email>jell...@bigpond.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-06T09:01:39Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/e4b17f642bef90a8/548afc0e28a23165?show_docid=548afc0e28a23165</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/e4b17f642bef90a8/548afc0e28a23165?show_docid=548afc0e28a23165"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Royals now cost 4 pence a year more than last year !</title>
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  Why did you delete the atr address in this thread ? You have accused &lt;br&gt; me of being your troll. You behaviour is very suspect. This thread has &lt;br&gt; largely atr posters. If jumped in with express purpose of interrupting &lt;br&gt; the thread to make a point from another thread.
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Nemo</name>
  <email>brokenj...@linuxmail.org</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-06T08:23:09Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/e4b17f642bef90a8/3edc5f13c4ca371c?show_docid=3edc5f13c4ca371c</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.royalty/browse_thread/thread/e4b17f642bef90a8/3edc5f13c4ca371c?show_docid=3edc5f13c4ca371c"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Royals now cost 4 pence a year more than last year !</title>
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  He, &#39;Jellore&#39; has the same problem in reading the posts of others, as &lt;br&gt; can be seen in his reply in another thread, &lt;br&gt; &amp;gt; ...I read your posts and that is how they come across to me. If you
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