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Come to Christ - Your Eternity Depends Upon It

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BroilJAB

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Apr 14, 2012, 8:19:16 PM4/14/12
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Atheists have been granted Free Will to
choose. Do not choose eternity in the
caudron Hell.

Jeanne Douglas

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Apr 14, 2012, 10:35:40 PM4/14/12
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In article
<39fb83b5-4b14-4c05...@i2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>,
And there's that heresy again.

Why do you think your god is too stupid to know the difference between
honest worship and false?

JD

Devils Advocaat

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Apr 15, 2012, 2:05:49 AM4/15/12
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Does this mean theists only get the standard, sub-standard "free will"?

HaShem Rules

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Apr 15, 2012, 2:22:08 AM4/15/12
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On Apr 14, 10:35 pm, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 14, 5:19 pm, BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>
> > Atheists have been granted Free Will to
> > choose. Do not choose eternity in the
> > caudron Hell.
>
> In article
> <39fb83b5-4b14-4c05-9735-d4812570f...@i2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>,
>
>  BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> > Atheists have been granted Free Will to
> > choose. Do not choose eternity in the
> > caudron Hell.
>
> And there's that heresy again.
>
> Why do you think your god is too stupid to know the difference between
> honest worship and false?
>
> JD

With my God there is no worship. My God told the Jews; "I didn't
want your worship and sacrifices. It is you who desired those things.
I wanted to stay with you and be your friend."

With HaShem it's knowing all about Him....
<No worship need apply>

The Jews dissed Him. He stayed with me, and is my friend.

He taught me.....
He is non corporeal energy and psyche. Beyond the stars. He made
a kingdom/house in creation. To house the legions He would make.
He used different seed on differing planets. Legions who do no good.
And legions who do no evil. They have the knowledge of both. As we
do. But they live only one. As we don't. Our race uses both.

We are a schizoid race. It's all genetics and psychology,

Billy-Bob Bobbob-bobob

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Apr 15, 2012, 2:39:35 AM4/15/12
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BroilJAB <Design...@wmconnect.com> wrote in news:39fb83b5-4b14-4c05-9735-
d48125...@i2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com:

> Atheists have been granted Free Will to
> choose. Do not choose eternity in the
> caudron Hell.
>

We didn't choose free will, it was forced upon us, so why blame us?

Billy-Bob
--
.

Devils Advocaat

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Apr 15, 2012, 2:41:59 AM4/15/12
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On Apr 15, 7:39 am, "Billy-Bob Bobbob-bobob" <nos...@nospam.net>
wrote:
> BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com> wrote in news:39fb83b5-4b14-4c05-9735-
> d4812570f...@i2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Atheists have been granted Free Will to
> > choose. Do not choose eternity in the
> > caudron Hell.
>
> We didn't choose free will, it was forced upon us, so why blame us?

Use your free will to protest your right not to use your free will. :P
>
> Billy-Bob
> --
> .

Uirgil

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Apr 15, 2012, 4:11:48 PM4/15/12
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BroilJAB <Design...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

There is absolutely no reason to suppose one does not die when one dies.

And there are a lot of reasons to suppose that death is the end for all
living creatures.

Uirgil

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Apr 15, 2012, 4:12:39 PM4/15/12
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BroilJAB <Design...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> Get on your knees.


Just because you get your sex that way....

Uirgil

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Apr 15, 2012, 6:35:24 PM4/15/12
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In article
<6afa6b98-5fa2-4f92...@d4g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
BroilJAB <Design...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> Get on your knees.


Just because that is your natural position for sex....

Uirgil

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Apr 17, 2012, 4:54:38 PM4/17/12
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In article
<b4d255f3-d376-4424...@do4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
BroilJAB <Design...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> Give thanks to Evolution for this amazing Creation of life forms.

Amen!

HaShem Rules

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Apr 18, 2012, 6:50:26 AM4/18/12
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On Apr 15, 4:11 pm, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
> In article
> <a04f5116-24fc-4968-bb95-b74fe8b9a...@l3g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
>
>  BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>
> There is absolutely no reason to suppose one does not die when one dies.

We have a psyche which is separate from the body. HaShem sees them
all.
>
> And there are a lot of reasons to suppose that death is the end for all
> living creatures.

Lower life only. Upon death, our psyche is put into a new immortal
body.
One will be what one was, when alive. And will be judged!

Judgement day.....
Eternal life, or death......

~>
Hybrid AKA Twonky...

Islam and Judaism exist, and have an origin...
Genesis 16, Islam...
Genesis 17, Judaism...

Call me crazy. But I think there is the Almighty
God in the mix....

Barry OGrady

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Apr 18, 2012, 10:30:48 AM4/18/12
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 03:50:26 -0700 (PDT), HaShem Rules
<01910i...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Apr 15, 4:11 pm, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
>> In article
>> <a04f5116-24fc-4968-bb95-b74fe8b9a...@l3g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>>  BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>>
>> There is absolutely no reason to suppose one does not die when one dies.
>
>We have a psyche which is separate from the body. HaShem sees them
>all.
>>
>> And there are a lot of reasons to suppose that death is the end for all
>> living creatures.
>
>Lower life only. Upon death, our psyche is put into a new immortal
>body.

Everything that makes 'you' exists in your brain. Brain damage
or a chemical imbalance could change 'you' completely.
When brain activity ceases 'you' won't exist in any form.

>One will be what one was, when alive. And will be judged!

God could only judge himself on how well he made us.

>Judgement day.....
>Eternal life, or death......

Do you really think God will find his skills wanting?

=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=
God is a spirit. 0% proof!

ThomMadura

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Apr 18, 2012, 10:54:08 AM4/18/12
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On 4/18/2012 10:30 AM, Barry OGrady wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 03:50:26 -0700 (PDT), HaShem Rules
> <01910i...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Apr 15, 4:11 pm, Uirgil<uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <a04f5116-24fc-4968-bb95-b74fe8b9a...@l3g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
>>>
>>> BroilJAB<DesignDen...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> There is absolutely no reason to suppose one does not die when one dies.
>>
>> We have a psyche which is separate from the body. HaShem sees them
>> all.
>>>
>>> And there are a lot of reasons to suppose that death is the end for all
>>> living creatures.
>>
>> Lower life only. Upon death, our psyche is put into a new immortal
>> body.
>
> Everything that makes 'you' exists in your brain. Brain damage
> or a chemical imbalance could change 'you' completely.
> When brain activity ceases 'you' won't exist in any form.


And sorry - but that is not true

EVEN when all bodily functions cease - and you are dead - you do exist
as a corpse.

However -there are many situations where people - without brain activity
- have had their heart continue to beat.

Uirgil

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Apr 18, 2012, 7:55:33 PM4/18/12
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In article
<c5e31552-7a75-4c37...@e42g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
BroilJAB <Design...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> Dont lose Pascalian Wager

Pascal's wager is a fake, as even Pascal, who had an odd sense of
humour, was quite aware.

Anyone who merely is betting on heaven, rather than honestly believing
in the alleged Xain god is doomed to lose, whether there is such a god
or not.

John Baker

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Apr 18, 2012, 11:17:40 PM4/18/12
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Why the fuck would any sane person want to spend eternity with the
likes of you?



Barry OGrady

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Apr 19, 2012, 4:36:48 AM4/19/12
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 10:54:08 -0400, ThomMadura
<Tomm...@optonline.net> wrote:

>On 18/4/2012 10:30 AM, Barry OGrady wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 03:50:26 -0700 (PDT), HaShem Rules
>> <01910i...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 15, 4:11 pm, Uirgil<uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
>>>> In article
>>>> <a04f5116-24fc-4968-bb95-b74fe8b9a...@l3g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>
>>>> BroilJAB<DesignDen...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There is absolutely no reason to suppose one does not die when one dies.
>>>
>>> We have a psyche which is separate from the body. HaShem sees them
>>> all.
>>>>
>>>> And there are a lot of reasons to suppose that death is the end for all
>>>> living creatures.
>>>
>>> Lower life only. Upon death, our psyche is put into a new immortal
>>> body.
>>
>> Everything that makes 'you' exists in your brain. Brain damage
>> or a chemical imbalance could change 'you' completely.
>> When brain activity ceases 'you' won't exist in any form.
>
>
>And sorry - but that is not true
>
>EVEN when all bodily functions cease - and you are dead - you do exist
>as a corpse.

However 'you', as in your thoughts, your awareness, everything that
makes 'you' the person, does cease to exist upon brain activity
ceasing.

Everything that makes 'you' exists in your brain. Brain damage
or a chemical imbalance could change 'you' completely.
When brain activity ceases 'you' won't exist in any form.

>However -there are many situations where people - without brain activity
>- have had their heart continue to beat.

However the 'you' won't exist.

Everything that makes 'you' exists in your brain. Brain damage
or a chemical imbalance could change 'you' completely.
When brain activity ceases 'you' won't exist in any form.

Uirgil

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Apr 19, 2012, 5:04:45 PM4/19/12
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In article
<2b852c82-2e33-4ebf...@m13g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
BroilJAB <Design...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

According to at least one gospel, only those following Jesus will gain
life after death, and an eternity of anything would end up being a dead
bore.

ThomMadura

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Apr 19, 2012, 6:25:42 PM4/19/12
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Sorry- but part of YOU is your body
And the body even exists after the brain is dead and the heart stops

IF you disagree - show me how YOU exist OUTSIDE of your body!

Barry OGrady

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Apr 19, 2012, 6:48:10 PM4/19/12
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:25:42 -0400, ThomMadura
<Tomm...@optonline.net> wrote:
That's why I write 'you' rather than you.

Everything that makes 'you' exists in your brain. Brain damage
or a chemical imbalance could change 'you' completely.
When brain activity ceases 'you' won't exist in any form.

ThomMadura

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Apr 19, 2012, 7:20:14 PM4/19/12
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LET us go back to the beginning of the thread that I was replying to

SEE FROM ABOVE " When brain activity ceases 'you' won't exist in any form."

AND sorry - but the words "in any form" are not true.

People exist in the memories of people who knew them - long after their
"death". ANd I exist in some way - in my children - and hopefully will
do so - long after I am dead (I have buried one son)

And people exist in their writings - and sayings- so I do not agree with
you.


Barry OGrady

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Apr 19, 2012, 9:29:01 PM4/19/12
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:20:14 -0400, ThomMadura
<Tomm...@optonline.net> wrote:
'You', as in your thoughts, your awareness, everything that
makes 'you' the person, does cease to exist upon brain activity
ceasing.

Everything that makes 'you' exists in your brain. Brain damage
or a chemical imbalance could change 'you' completely.
When brain activity ceases 'you' won't exist in any form.

Note 'you' not you.

Uirgil

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Apr 19, 2012, 11:59:54 PM4/19/12
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In article
<7097368d-a6a4-4096...@b2g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
BroilJAB <Design...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> Atheists have been granted Free Will to
> choose.

And have used it wisely!
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