Re: Lucy FACTOID 101

Jason

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Mar 29, 2012, 5:33:39 PM3/29/12

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In article <dfritzin-ACD06F...@news.eternal-september.org>,
David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:

> In article <Jason-28031...@66.53.221.101>,
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > In article <dfritzin-83414E...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article
> > > <Jason-28031...@66-53-209-214.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <dfritzin-6A28AD...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > > David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > In article
> > > > > <Jason-28031...@66-53-209-214.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > > <dfritzin-2D95ED...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > > > > David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > <Jason-27031...@67-150-125-228.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > > > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In article <6rrcr.24962$cd7....@newsfe06.iad>, Tom McDonald
> > > > > > > > <tmcdon...@charter.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 3/27/2012 4:36 PM, Jason wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > In
article<XnsA0234CA7C30CB...@216.196.121.131>,
> > > > > > > > > > Mitchell
> > > > > > > > > > Holman<nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > > > > > > > >> news:Jason-26031...@66.53.221.46:
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>> In article<wsGdnUPiCeVTuuzS...@giganews.com>,
> > > > linuxgal
> > > > > > > > > >>> <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Jason wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> God decided to do it a different way. One preacher
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> believes
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> reason he done it that way was to cleanse the
planet. The
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> next
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> time, God will use fire to clease the planet.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Yep, about five billion years from now Sol goes
red-giant
> > > > > > > > > >>>> and
> > > > > > > > > >>>> swallows the Earth. Jesus ought to return by then.
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> It may happen before the end of 2012--are you ready? The
> > > > Mayans had
> > > > > > > > > >>> a
> > > > > > > > > >>> calendar that ended the last day of 2012. Why did they do
> > > > > > > > > >>> it?
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Their calendar has the current epoch ending
> > > > > > > > > >> on Dec 21 2012. Following which a new epoch will
> > > > > > > > > >> begin. No different than our centuries ending
> > > > > > > > > >> and new one begining.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Or were part of the "Y2K" hysterics?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The television show related to this subject said they
did not
> > > > > > > > > > have a
> > > > > > > > > > calendar for the year 2013 but did have calendars for all
> > of the
> > > > > > > > > > years
> > > > > > > > > > prior to 2013.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The show was written by fucking idiots. And fucking idiots
> > watched
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > and thought it might be so.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There will be lots more stories about the Maya calendar issue in
> > > > November
> > > > > > > > and December.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That will be written by idiots to be watched and read by
idiots. I
> > > > > > > guess
> > > > > > > you believe that includes you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you choose to ignore the Maya calendar news stories--so be it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I do. For some reason, you, a Christian think the Mayas know
something
> > > > > about the end of the world, even though they were heathens. It
appears
> > > > > that this is another bit of idiocy by you.
> > > >
> > > > You may be wrong about the Maya being heathens. One or two posters told
> > > > me
> > > > they had a religion.
> > >
> > > Yes, they had religion. However, they weren't Christian or Jewish,
> > > meaning they were heathens.
> > >
> > > From Dictionary.com:
> > >
> > > hea·then? <a
> > > onmousedown="spk(this,{lk:'nx1fkx',en:'wotdau',io:'0',b:'wotd',tp:'lrl',m
> > > :'wotdau'})" href="#"></a><a target="_blank"
> > > href="http://dictionary.reference.com/audio.html/lunaWAV/H01/H0147300"><i
> > > mg border="0"
> > > src="http://sp.dictionary.com/dictstatic/g/d/speaker.gif"></a>?[hee-thuhn
> > > ] Show IPA noun, plural -thens, -then, adjective
> > > noun
> > > 1.
> > > an unconverted individual of a people that do not acknowledge the God of
> > > the Bible; a person who is neither a Jew, Christian, nor Muslim; pagan.
> > >
> > > Now, I repeat. Why are you believing heathens when it comes to the end
> > > of the earth.
> > >
> > > Don't answer. I know. You so want the world to end, so you can laugh at
> > > all of us who have been giving you such a hard time here, that you are
> > > wiling to believe anybody that supports your wish.
> > >
> > > BTW, where did the water go?
> >
> > I have respect for the Maya so I will not refer to them as heathens. You
> > need to take a P.C. class.
>
> What a hypocrite you are. You are certainly willing to insult Muslims,
> despite the fact they worship the same god as you, but you say you have
> respect for the Mayas. That wouldn't be because the misinterpretation of
> some of their writings say thing you want to hear, would it?
>
> What a credulous hypocrite you are.
> >
> > Yes, I do want the rapture to happen ASAP. I am helping my neighbor take
> > care of her 81 year old father that is slowly dying due to heart failure
> > and two different bone diseases. I don't want to die that way. He is
> > totally disabled and is losing his memory. It's a terrible way to die. The
> > rapture would be far better than dying that way. I have heart disease but
> > don't have heart failure--thank goodness for that.
>
> You selfish jerk. You don't want to die in a certain way, so you hope
> for the end of the world. What a self-pitying, selfish hypocrite you
> are. Thank god I know many Christians who are normal people. If you were
> my only example of a Christian, I would think they were hateful,
> horrible people.

Believe it or not, the world that we presently have will eventually come
to an end. It's a fact. It's fortunate that a huge asteroid has not hit
America in the last 1000 years. I did read about a small asteroid hitting
the former Soviet Union. Thank goodness, that is was a small one.

David Fritzinger

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Mar 29, 2012, 7:23:21 PM3/29/12

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In article
<Jason-29031...@66-53-214-147.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

> In article <dfritzin-ACD06F...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <Jason-28031...@66.53.221.101>,
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > In article <dfritzin-83414E...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:

[snip]

I hope you do realize that what you just wrote has little to do with the
conversation we were having previously. Don't you have the ability to
keep your posts on topic? Apparently, you don't.

Jason

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Mar 30, 2012, 3:06:20 AM3/30/12

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In article <dfritzin-701617...@news.eternal-september.org>,

Believe it or not, if the rapture happened today--it would just mean that
all Christians and Jews went to heaven. Billions of people would remain on
the earth . Books have been written about what may happen on the earth
after the rapture happens. They are called the "Left Behind" series of
books. They have made DVD movies based on some of those Left Behind books.
You can buy those books and DVDs at any Christian Book Store.

I hope the rapture happens during my life time. My father also hoped the
rapture would happen during his life time. He had heart disease and lung
disease due to breathing in mustard gas when he was involved in a war.

Devils Advocaat

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Mar 30, 2012, 3:40:20 AM3/30/12

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On Mar 30, 8:06 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <dfritzin-701617.19232129032...@news.eternal-september.org>,
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> David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <Jason-2903121333390...@66-53-214-147.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
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> > > In article <dfritzin-ACD06F.08374829032...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > In article <Jason-2803122127160...@66.53.221.101>,
> > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
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> > > > > In article <dfritzin-83414E.22012028032...@news.eternal-september.org>,

Just a few questions if I may.

How old are you Jason?

When did your dad die?

And how old was he when he died?

Greg Carr

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Mar 30, 2012, 6:39:47 AM3/30/12

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On Mar 30, 12:06 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <dfritzin-701617.19232129032...@news.eternal-september.org>,
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> David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > In article

> > <Jason-2903121333390...@66-53-214-147.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
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> > > In article <dfritzin-ACD06F.08374829032...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>

> > > > In article <Jason-2803122127160...@66.53.221.101>,

> > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
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> > > > > In article <dfritzin-83414E.22012028032...@news.eternal-september.org>,

I believe the rapture will occur in my lifetime and I'm 47. Yet to see
the Anti-Christ revealed or the two final prophets.

David Fritzinger

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Mar 30, 2012, 7:10:01 AM3/30/12

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In article <Jason-29031...@66-53-211-15.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Those books are *fiction*! It ain't gonna happen, Jason.

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> I hope the rapture happens during my life time. My father also hoped the
> rapture would happen during his life time. He had heart disease and lung
> disease due to breathing in mustard gas when he was involved in a war.

AGain, it ain't gonna happen, as it is just the drug-induced ravings of
a madman.

Alex W.

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Mar 30, 2012, 8:01:15 AM3/30/12

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It's not just fiction but *hate* fiction.
It glorifies violence.
It demeans and denies the message of Jesus.
If the authors had been Muslim, American preachers and
politicians would wave it about as prime evidence of the hateful
nature of Islam.

David Fritzinger

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Mar 30, 2012, 9:05:53 AM3/30/12

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In article <31mcgvrwiwfb.1fz0vm7cu9pyf$.d...@40tude.net>,

Yeah, but Jason loves them, because he figures he would be among the
raptured, and then he could laugh at us for torturing him all these
months (years?). I think that if the rapture did happen, Jason would
probably be very unhappily surprised.

harry k

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Mar 30, 2012, 10:43:48 AM3/30/12

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On Mar 30, 12:06 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <dfritzin-701617.19232129032...@news.eternal-september.org>,
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> David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > In article

> > <Jason-2903121333390...@66-53-214-147.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > In article <dfritzin-ACD06F.08374829032...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>

> > > > In article <Jason-2803122127160...@66.53.221.101>,

> > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
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> > > > > In article <dfritzin-83414E.22012028032...@news.eternal-september.org>,

Sounds like it would improve things on earth tremendously. At least
it would stop some of the religious wars and persecution.

Harry K

harry k

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Mar 30, 2012, 10:41:47 AM3/30/12

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On Mar 30, 12:06 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <dfritzin-701617.19232129032...@news.eternal-september.org>,
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> David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > In article

> > <Jason-2903121333390...@66-53-214-147.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > In article <dfritzin-ACD06F.08374829032...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>

> > > > In article <Jason-2803122127160...@66.53.221.101>,

> > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
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> > > > > In article <dfritzin-83414E.22012028032...@news.eternal-september.org>,

And the christers from year 50ad hoped the same thing...hell they even
had predications from Jesus himself that it would happen by thein.
Why didn't it?

Harry K

Jason

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Mar 30, 2012, 1:35:13 PM3/30/12

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I hope that you are wrong.

Jason

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Mar 30, 2012, 1:37:22 PM3/30/12

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In article <dfritzin-205435...@news.eternal-september.org>,

I did enjoy reading about their project related to the volcano at Mount
St. Helens. They published a book about that project.

David Fritzinger

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Mar 30, 2012, 2:02:58 PM3/30/12

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In article <Jason-30031...@66-53-216-63.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Would you tell me what your comment above has to do with the discussion?
Thank you.

David Fritzinger

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Mar 30, 2012, 2:03:46 PM3/30/12

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In article <Jason-30031...@66-53-216-63.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

> In article <dfritzin-C57399...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <Jason-29031...@66-53-211-15.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

[snip]

> > > Believe it or not, if the rapture happened today--it would just mean that
> > > all Christians and Jews went to heaven. Billions of people would remain
> > > on
> > > the earth . Books have been written about what may happen on the earth
> > > after the rapture happens. They are called the "Left Behind" series of
> > > books. They have made DVD movies based on some of those Left Behind
> > > books.
> > > You can buy those books and DVDs at any Christian Book Store.
> >
> > Those books are *fiction*! It ain't gonna happen, Jason.
> > >
> > > I hope the rapture happens during my life time. My father also hoped the
> > > rapture would happen during his life time. He had heart disease and lung
> > > disease due to breathing in mustard gas when he was involved in a war.
> >
> > AGain, it ain't gonna happen, as it is just the drug-induced ravings of
> > a madman.
>
> I hope that you are wrong.

Don't worry, I'm not.

Alex W.

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Mar 30, 2012, 2:07:20 PM3/30/12

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Not for long, though.
You know his mindset -- he'd fall back on circular logic, wishful
thinking, magical thinking and some creative interpretation to
redefine "rapture". In no time at all, he'd be spouting the same
nonsense as pre-rapture, declaring the clearly faulty rapture to
be a fake perpetrated by Socialist Islamic Satan or putting it
down to human error in the calculations, or divine will, or some
other such drivel.

Devils Advocaat

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Mar 30, 2012, 4:16:12 PM3/30/12

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On Mar 30, 7:02 pm, David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com>
wrote:
> In article <Jason-3003120937220...@66-53-216-63.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
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> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <dfritzin-205435.09055330032...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > In article <31mcgvrwiwfb.1fz0vm7cu9pyf$....@40tude.net>,

> > > "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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> > > > On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 07:10:01 -0400, David Fritzinger wrote:
>

> > > > > In article <Jason-2903122306200...@66-53-211-15.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

> > > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > > >> In article

> > > > >> <dfritzin-701617.19232129032...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > > >> David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >>> In article

> > > > >>> <Jason-2903121333390...@66-53-214-147.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

> > > > >>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > > >>> > In article

> > <dfritzin-ACD06F.08374829032...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > > >>> > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>

> > > > >>> > > In article <Jason-2803122127160...@66.53.221.101>,

> > > > >>> > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
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> > > > >>> > > > In article

> > > > >>> > > > <dfritzin-83414E.22012028032...@news.eternal-september.org>,

Let me guess .... nothing?

Jason

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Mar 30, 2012, 7:36:25 PM3/30/12

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Books have been written about what may happen on the earth
> > > > >> after the rapture happens. They are called the "Left Behind"
series of
> > > > >> books. They have made DVD movies based on some of those Left Behind
> > books.
> > > > >> You can buy those books and DVDs at any Christian Book Store.
> > > > >
> > > > > Those books are *fiction*! It ain't gonna happen, Jason.
> > > >
> > > > It's not just fiction but *hate* fiction.
> > > > It glorifies violence.
> > > > It demeans and denies the message of Jesus.
> > > > If the authors had been Muslim, American preachers and
> > > > politicians would wave it about as prime evidence of the hateful
> > > > nature of Islam.
> > >
> > > Yeah, but Jason loves them, because he figures he would be among the
> > > raptured, and then he could laugh at us for torturing him all these
> > > months (years?). I think that if the rapture did happen, Jason would
> > > probably be very unhappily surprised.
> >
> > I did enjoy reading about their project related to the volcano at Mount
> > St. Helens. They published a book about that project.
>
> Would you tell me what your comment above has to do with the discussion?
> Thank you.

Read all of the above posts. I made it easy for you. Christian books are
mentioned in many of the above sentences.

Jason

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Mar 30, 2012, 7:39:58 PM3/30/12

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In article <17offykatatwg$.s0t6afp0p5mh$.d...@40tude.net>,

I don't think that will happen. My rapture beliefs are based on the
Bible--not the strange beliefs of the JWs. I seem to remember that they
believe a secret rapture took place about a 50 years ago.

Jason

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Mar 30, 2012, 7:40:36 PM3/30/12

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In article <dfritzin-725BA7...@news.eternal-september.org>,

time will tell

Free Lunch

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Mar 30, 2012, 8:36:28 PM3/30/12

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On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:06:20 -0800, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
alt.talk.creationism:

Your view of rapture is not shared by most of the self-righteous
rapture-worshippers with their smug bumperstickers about how they will
be raptured.

Anyway, it will not happen.

Free Lunch

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Mar 30, 2012, 8:37:54 PM3/30/12

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On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 09:37:22 -0800, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
alt.talk.creationism:

>In article <dfritzin-205435...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:

...

>> Yeah, but Jason loves them, because he figures he would be among the
>> raptured, and then he could laugh at us for torturing him all these
>> months (years?). I think that if the rapture did happen, Jason would
>> probably be very unhappily surprised.
>
>I did enjoy reading about their project related to the volcano at Mount
>St. Helens. They published a book about that project.
>

Yes, the silly stories that the ICR wrote about Mt. St. Helens are every
bit as fictional and dishonest as the abysmal stories that LaHaye wrote.

Free Lunch

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Mar 30, 2012, 8:39:04 PM3/30/12

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On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 09:35:13 -0800, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
alt.talk.creationism:

>In article <dfritzin-C57399...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>David Fritzinger <dfri...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <Jason-29031...@66-53-211-15.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

...

>> > Believe it or not, if the rapture happened today--it would just mean that
>> > all Christians and Jews went to heaven. Billions of people would remain on
>> > the earth . Books have been written about what may happen on the earth
>> > after the rapture happens. They are called the "Left Behind" series of
>> > books. They have made DVD movies based on some of those Left Behind books.
>> > You can buy those books and DVDs at any Christian Book Store.
>>
>> Those books are *fiction*! It ain't gonna happen, Jason.
>> >
>> > I hope the rapture happens during my life time. My father also hoped the
>> > rapture would happen during his life time. He had heart disease and lung
>> > disease due to breathing in mustard gas when he was involved in a war.
>>
>> AGain, it ain't gonna happen, as it is just the drug-induced ravings of
>> a madman.
>
>I hope that you are wrong.

Why? There's no evidence that you follow Jesus or will be saved. You
have made it clear that you support those who have chosen mammon.

linuxgal

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Mar 30, 2012, 8:45:42 PM3/30/12

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Jason wrote:

> I don't think that will happen. My rapture beliefs are based on the
> Bible--not the strange beliefs of the JWs. I seem to remember that they
> believe a secret rapture took place about a 50 years ago.
>

I hope you're not pre-trib, Jesus said he was coming "after the
tribulation of those days".

Free Lunch

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Mar 30, 2012, 9:47:00 PM3/30/12

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On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:36:25 -0800, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
alt.talk.creationism:

The people who write lie-filled books like the ICR are only Christian in
their own dishonest minds. They mock God and refuse to follow what Jesus
taught. Why anyone would accept their claim to be Christian is beyond
me. Maybe you can tell me why someone who claims to be Christian would
lie about this all the time. You are one such liar.

Free Lunch

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On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:40:36 -0800, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
alt.talk.creationism:

Believers who make predictions based on what is found in the Bible twist
the words of the Bible to keep making those predictions even though the
apparent predictions turned out to be false long ago.

Devils Advocaat

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Mar 31, 2012, 1:43:04 AM3/31/12

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Funny how you expect others to look back through a thread, yet when
I've asked you to do the same you choose not to.

Jason

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Mar 31, 2012, 2:08:30 AM3/31/12

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In article <kakcn755jl8lsp22v...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch

Time will tell

Jason

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Mar 31, 2012, 2:09:28 AM3/31/12

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In article <g4Wdndzj7ttYzuvS...@giganews.com>, linuxgal

Yes, I am a pre-triber.

Devils Advocaat

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Mar 31, 2012, 2:18:56 AM3/31/12

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On Mar 31, 7:08 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <kakcn755jl8lsp22vo2e08id1sh407r...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:06:20 -0800, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > alt.talk.creationism:
>

> > >In article <dfritzin-701617.19232129032...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > >David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> In article

> > >> <Jason-2903121333390...@66-53-214-147.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

> > >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > >> > In article <dfritzin-ACD06F.08374829032...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > >> > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>

> > >> > > In article <Jason-2803122127160...@66.53.221.101>,

> > >> > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > >> > > > In article
>

> <dfritzin-83414E.22012028032...@news.eternal-september.org>,

How many generations have hoped for the rapture in their lifetimes?

David Fritzinger

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Mar 31, 2012, 7:03:35 AM3/31/12

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In article
<Jason-30031...@67-150-168-12.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Yeah, nothing will happen, and another generation of idiots will say the
same idiocies you do.

Devils Advocaat

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Mar 31, 2012, 7:10:03 AM3/31/12

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On Mar 31, 12:03 pm, David Fritzinger
<dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <Jason-3003121540360...@67-150-168-12.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <dfritzin-725BA7.14034630032...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > In article <Jason-3003120935130...@66-53-216-63.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > > In article <dfritzin-C57399.07100130032...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > In article <Jason-2903122306200...@66-53-211-15.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

I guess it'll be ruptures all the way down :P

Free Lunch

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Mar 31, 2012, 9:24:53 AM3/31/12

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On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 22:09:28 -0800, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
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Whatever. You cannot defend that doctrine.

Free Lunch

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Mar 31, 2012, 9:25:20 AM3/31/12

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On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 22:08:30 -0800, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in

Time has already shown us that you are wrong.

linuxgal

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Mar 31, 2012, 12:32:29 PM3/31/12

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Too bad. You don't want to be in the first batch, they get burned.

Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time
of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the
tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into
my barn.

linuxgal

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Mar 31, 2012, 2:16:35 PM3/31/12

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Jason wrote:
>
> I don't think that will happen. My rapture beliefs are based on the
> Bible--not the strange beliefs of the JWs. I seem to remember that they
> believe a secret rapture took place about a 50 years ago.
>

Yeah, your secret rapture was 1988, oops, 2000, oops, 2007, oops, 2012.

Free Lunch

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On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 23:18:56 -0700 (PDT), Devils Advocaat
<manky...@gmail.com> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:

Not all that many since Roman Catholicism and the first Protestant
denominations did not teach that silly doctrine.

Jason

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Apr 3, 2012, 3:37:59 AM4/3/12

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In article
<72346c6f-b755-4570...@w5g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>, Devils
Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 31, 7:08=A0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <kakcn755jl8lsp22vo2e08id1sh407r...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:06:20 -0800, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > alt.talk.creationism:
> >

> > > >In article <dfritzin-701617.19232129032...@news.eternal-september.org>=

> ,
> > > >David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >> In article
> > > >> <Jason-2903121333390...@66-53-214-147.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

> > > >> =A0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > >> > In article <dfritzin-ACD06F.08374829032...@news.eternal-september.=

> org>,
> > > >> > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >> > > In article <Jason-2803122127160...@66.53.221.101>,

> > > >> > > =A0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > >> > > > In article
> >
> > <dfritzin-83414E.22012028032...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > >> > > > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> [snip]

> > > >> > > > > Now, I repeat. Why are you believing heathens when it comes =

> to
> > > >the end
> > > >> > > > > of the earth.
> >

> > > >> > > > > Don't answer. I know. You so want the world to end, so you c=
> an
> > > >laugh at
> > > >> > > > > all of us who have been giving you such a hard time here, th=

> at
> > > >you are
> > > >> > > > > wiling to believe anybody that supports your wish.
> >
> > > >> > > > > BTW, where did the water go?
> >
> > > >> > > > I have respect for the Maya so I will not refer to them as
> > heathens. You
> > > >> > > > need to take a P.C. class.
> >

> > > >> > > What a hypocrite you are. You are certainly willing to insult Mu=

> slims,
> > > >> > > despite the fact they worship the same god as you, but you say
> > you have
> > > >> > > respect for the Mayas. That wouldn't be because the
> >
> > misinterpretation of
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > >> > > some of their writings say thing you want to hear, would it?
> >
> > > >> > > What a credulous hypocrite you are.
> >
> > > >> > > > Yes, I do want the rapture to happen ASAP. I am helping my
> > neighbor take
> > > >> > > > care of her 81 year old father that is slowly dying due to
> > heart failure

> > > >> > > > and two different bone diseases. I don't want to die that way.=

> He is
> > > >> > > > totally disabled and is losing his memory. It's a terrible way
> > to die.
> > > >> > > > The
> > > >> > > > rapture would be far better than dying that way. I have heart
> > > >disease but
> > > >> > > > don't have heart failure--thank goodness for that.
> >

> > > >> > > You selfish jerk. You don't want to die in a certain way, so you=
> hope
> > > >> > > for the end of the world. What a self-pitying, selfish hypocrite=

> you
> > > >> > > are. Thank god I know many Christians who are normal people. If
> > you were
> > > >> > > my only example of a Christian, I would think they were hateful,
> > > >> > > horrible people.
> >

> > > >> > Believe it or not, the world that we presently have will eventuall=
> y come
> > > >> > to an end. It's a fact. It's fortunate that a huge asteroid has no=
> t hit
> > > >> > America in the last 1000 years. I did read about a small asteroid =

> hitting
> > > >> > the former Soviet Union. Thank goodness, that is was a small one.
> >

> > > >> I hope you do realize that what you just wrote has little to do with=
> the
> > > >> conversation we were having previously. Don't you have the ability t=

> o
> > > >> keep your posts on topic? Apparently, you don't.
> >

> > > >Believe it or not, if the rapture happened today--it would just mean t=
> hat
> > > >all Christians and Jews went to heaven. Billions of people would remai=

> n on
> > > >the earth . Books have been written about what may happen on the earth
> > > >after the rapture happens. They are called the "Left Behind" series of

> > > >books. They have made DVD movies based on some of those Left Behind bo=

> oks.
> > > >You can buy those books and DVDs at any Christian Book Store.
> >

> > > >I hope the rapture happens during my life time. My father also hoped t=
> he
> > > >rapture would happen during his life time. He had heart disease and lu=

> ng
> > > >disease due to breathing in mustard gas when he was involved in a war.
> >
> > > Your view of rapture is not shared by most of the self-righteous
> > > rapture-worshippers with their smug bumperstickers about how they will
> > > be raptured.
> >
> > > Anyway, it will not happen.
> >
> > Time will tell
>
> How many generations have hoped for the rapture in their lifetimes?

Since about the year 1560 when English Bibles first started to be printed.

Jason

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In article <m2fkn7tu2dbfiachi...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch

It's in the Bible.

Jason

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Apr 3, 2012, 3:39:34 AM4/3/12

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In article
<e5b60ba6-f536-4236...@h5g2000vbx.googlegroups.com>, Devils
Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 30, 7:02=A0pm, David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com>

> wrote:
> > In article <Jason-3003120937220...@66-53-216-63.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > =A0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > In article <dfritzin-205435.09055330032...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > In article <31mcgvrwiwfb.1fz0vm7cu9pyf$....@40tude.net>,

> > > > =A0"Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 07:10:01 -0400, David Fritzinger wrote:
> >

> > > > > > In article <Jason-2903122306200...@66-53-211-15.lsan.mdsg-pacwest=
> .com>,

> > > > > > =A0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > > > >> In article
> > > > > >> <dfritzin-701617.19232129032...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > > > >> David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > >>> In article
> > > > > >>> <Jason-2903121333390...@66-53-214-147.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

> > > > > >>> =A0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > > > >>> > In article
> > > <dfritzin-ACD06F.08374829032...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > > > > >>> > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > >>> > > In article <Jason-2803122127160...@66.53.221.101>,

> > > > > >>> > > =A0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > > > >>> > > > In article

> > > > > >>> > > > <dfritzin-83414E.22012028032...@news.eternal-september.or=

> g>,
> > > > > >>> > > > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >>> [snip]

> > > > > >>> > > > > Now, I repeat. Why are you believing heathens when it c=

> omes
> > > > > >>> > > > > to
> > > > > >> the end
> > > > > >>> > > > > of the earth.
> >

> > > > > >>> > > > > Don't answer. I know. You so want the world to end, so =
> you
> > > > > >>> > > > > can
> > > > > >> laugh at
> > > > > >>> > > > > all of us who have been giving you such a hard time her=

> e,
> > > > > >>> > > > > that
> > > > > >> you are
> > > > > >>> > > > > wiling to believe anybody that supports your wish.
> >
> > > > > >>> > > > > BTW, where did the water go?
> >

> > > > > >>> > > > I have respect for the Maya so I will not refer to them a=

> s
> > > > > >>> > > > heathens.
> > > > > >>> > > > You
> > > > > >>> > > > need to take a P.C. class.
> >

> > > > > >>> > > What a hypocrite you are. You are certainly willing to insu=
> lt
> > > > > >>> > > Muslims,
> > > > > >>> > > despite the fact they worship the same god as you, but you =

> say
> > > > > >>> > > you
> > > > > >>> > > have
> > > > > >>> > > respect for the Mayas. That wouldn't be because the
> > > misinterpretation
> > > > > >>> > > of

> > > > > >>> > > some of their writings say thing you want to hear, would it=

> ?
> >
> > > > > >>> > > What a credulous hypocrite you are.
> >

> > > > > >>> > > > Yes, I do want the rapture to happen ASAP. I am helping m=
> y
> > > neighbor
> > > > > >>> > > > take
> > > > > >>> > > > care of her 81 year old father that is slowly dying due t=
> o
> > > > > >>> > > > heart
> > > > > >>> > > > failure
> > > > > >>> > > > and two different bone diseases. I don't want to die that=
> way.
> > > > > >>> > > > He
> > > > > >>> > > > is
> > > > > >>> > > > totally disabled and is losing his memory. It's a terribl=

> e way
> > > > > >>> > > > to
> > > > > >>> > > > die.
> > > > > >>> > > > The

> > > > > >>> > > > rapture would be far better than dying that way. I have h=

> eart
> > > > > >> disease but
> > > > > >>> > > > don't have heart failure--thank goodness for that.
> >

> > > > > >>> > > You selfish jerk. You don't want to die in a certain way, s=

> o
> > > you hope
> > > > > >>> > > for the end of the world. What a self-pitying, selfish
> > > hypocrite you

> > > > > >>> > > are. Thank god I know many Christians who are normal people=
> . If
> > > > > >>> > > you
> > > > > >>> > > were
> > > > > >>> > > my only example of a Christian, I would think they were hat=
> eful,
> > > > > >>> > > horrible people.
> >
> > > > > >>> > Believe it or not, the world that we presently have will even=
> tually
> > > > > >>> > come
> > > > > >>> > to an end. It's a fact. It's fortunate that a huge asteroid h=
> as
> > > not hit
> > > > > >>> > America in the last 1000 years. I did read about a small aste=
> roid
> > > > > >>> > hitting
> > > > > >>> > the former Soviet Union. Thank goodness, that is was a small =

> one.
> >
> > > > > >>> I hope you do realize that what you just wrote has little to do
> > > with the

> > > > > >>> conversation we were having previously. Don't you have the abil=

> ity to
> > > > > >>> keep your posts on topic? Apparently, you don't.
> >

> > > > > >> Believe it or not, if the rapture happened today--it would just =

> mean
> > > > > >> that
> > > > > >> all Christians and Jews went to heaven. Billions of people would
> > > remain on

> > > > > >> the earth . Books have been written about what may happen on the=
> earth
> > > > > >> after the rapture happens. They are called the "Left Behind" ser=
> ies of
> > > > > >> books. They have made DVD movies based on some of those Left Beh=

> ind
> > > books.
> > > > > >> You can buy those books and DVDs at any Christian Book Store.
> >
> > > > > > Those books are *fiction*! It ain't gonna happen, Jason.
> >
> > > > > It's not just fiction but *hate* fiction.
> > > > > It glorifies violence.
> > > > > It demeans and denies the message of Jesus.
> > > > > If the authors had been Muslim, American preachers and
> > > > > politicians would wave it about as prime evidence of the hateful
> > > > > nature of Islam.
> >
> > > > Yeah, but Jason loves them, because he figures he would be among the
> > > > raptured, and then he could laugh at us for torturing him all these
> > > > months (years?). I think that if the rapture did happen, Jason would
> > > > probably be very unhappily surprised.
> >
> > > I did enjoy reading about their project related to the volcano at Mount
> > > St. Helens. They published a book about that project.
> >
> > Would you tell me what your comment above has to do with the discussion?
> > Thank you.
>
> Let me guess .... nothing?

Read the posts that are above--Christian books are mentioned.

Jason

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Apr 3, 2012, 3:41:58 AM4/3/12

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In article
<7f991155-66f9-4b54...@j14g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 31, 12:36=A0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > =A0Books have been written about what may happen on the earth

> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > > >> after the rapture happens. They are called the "Left Behind"
> > series of

> > > > > > >> books. They have made DVD movies based on some of those Left B=

> ehind
> > > > books.
> > > > > > >> You can buy those books and DVDs at any Christian Book Store.
> >
> > > > > > > Those books are *fiction*! It ain't gonna happen, Jason.
> >
> > > > > > It's not just fiction but *hate* fiction.
> > > > > > It glorifies violence.
> > > > > > It demeans and denies the message of Jesus.
> > > > > > If the authors had been Muslim, American preachers and
> > > > > > politicians would wave it about as prime evidence of the hateful
> > > > > > nature of Islam.
> >

> > > > > Yeah, but Jason loves them, because he figures he would be among th=

> e
> > > > > raptured, and then he could laugh at us for torturing him all these

> > > > > months (years?). I think that if the rapture did happen, Jason woul=

> d
> > > > > probably be very unhappily surprised.
> >

> > > > I did enjoy reading about their project related to the volcano at Mou=

> nt
> > > > St. Helens. They published a book about that project.
> >

> > > Would you tell me what your comment above has to do with the discussion=

> ?
> > > Thank you.
> >
> > Read all of the above posts. I made it easy for you. Christian books are
> > mentioned in many of the above sentences.
>
> Funny how you expect others to look back through a thread, yet when
> I've asked you to do the same you choose not to.

Books are mentioned directly above. In the case that you mentioned--dozens
were questions were mentioned and you expected me to find the correct
question.

Jason

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In article
<1ea1dbec-da9f-4303...@x5g2000pbl.googlegroups.com>, harry
k <turnk...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 30, 12:06=A0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <dfritzin-701617.19232129032...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <Jason-2903121333390...@66-53-214-147.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > > =A0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >

> > > > In article <dfritzin-ACD06F.08374829032...@news.eternal-september.org=

> >,
> > > > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > In article <Jason-2803122127160...@66.53.221.101>,
> > > > > =A0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >

> > > > > > In article <dfritzin-83414E.22012028032...@news.eternal-september=
> .org>,

> > > > > > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > [snip]

> > > > > > > Now, I repeat. Why are you believing heathens when it comes to

> > the end
> > > > > > > of the earth.
> >

> > > > > > > Don't answer. I know. You so want the world to end, so you can
> > laugh at
> > > > > > > all of us who have been giving you such a hard time here, that

> > you are
> > > > > > > wiling to believe anybody that supports your wish.
> >
> > > > > > > BTW, where did the water go?
> >

> > > > > > I have respect for the Maya so I will not refer to them as heathe=

> ns. You
> > > > > > need to take a P.C. class.
> >

> > > > > What a hypocrite you are. You are certainly willing to insult Musli=
> ms,
> > > > > despite the fact they worship the same god as you, but you say you =
> have
> > > > > respect for the Mayas. That wouldn't be because the misinterpretati=
> on of
> > > > > some of their writings say thing you want to hear, would it?

> >
> > > > > What a credulous hypocrite you are.
> >

> > > > > > Yes, I do want the rapture to happen ASAP. I am helping my neighb=
> or take
> > > > > > care of her 81 year old father that is slowly dying due to heart =
> failure
> > > > > > and two different bone diseases. I don't want to die that way. He=
> is
> > > > > > totally disabled and is losing his memory. It's a terrible way to=
> die.
> > > > > > The
> > > > > > rapture would be far better than dying that way. I have heart

> > disease but
> > > > > > don't have heart failure--thank goodness for that.
> >

> > > > > You selfish jerk. You don't want to die in a certain way, so you ho=
> pe
> > > > > for the end of the world. What a self-pitying, selfish hypocrite yo=
> u
> > > > > are. Thank god I know many Christians who are normal people. If you=
> were
> > > > > my only example of a Christian, I would think they were hateful,
> > > > > horrible people.
> >
> > > > Believe it or not, the world that we presently have will eventually c=
> ome
> > > > to an end. It's a fact. It's fortunate that a huge asteroid has not h=
> it
> > > > America in the last 1000 years. I did read about a small asteroid hit=
> ting
> > > > the former Soviet Union. Thank goodness, that is was a small one.
> >
> > > I hope you do realize that what you just wrote has little to do with th=
> e
> > > conversation we were having previously. Don't you have the ability to

> > > keep your posts on topic? Apparently, you don't.
> >

> > Believe it or not, if the rapture happened today--it would just mean that
> > all Christians and Jews went to heaven. Billions of people would remain o=
> n
> > the earth . Books have been written about what may happen on the earth

> > after the rapture happens. They are called the "Left Behind" series of

> > books. They have made DVD movies based on some of those Left Behind books=

> .
> > You can buy those books and DVDs at any Christian Book Store.
> >

> > I hope the rapture happens during my life time. My father also hoped the
> > rapture would happen during his life time. He had heart disease and lung
> > disease due to breathing in mustard gas when he was involved in a war.
>

> And the christers from year 50ad hoped the same thing...hell they even
> had predications from Jesus himself that it would happen by thein.
> Why didn't it?
>
> Harry K

Only God knows why it has not yet happened.

Jason

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Apr 3, 2012, 3:44:48 AM4/3/12

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In article
<a9139c1a-08e2-4d8b...@wj4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>, harry

> Sounds like it would improve things on earth tremendously. At least
> it would stop some of the religious wars and persecution.
>
> Harry K

Only the Chistians and Jews would be raptured. You would still have to
deal with Muslims and Buddhists.

Devils Advocaat

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Apr 3, 2012, 4:56:43 AM4/3/12

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On Apr 3, 8:41 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article

> <7f991155-66f9-4b54-b089-1f8160322...@j14g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,

Jason, when I have asked you to look back through a thread to previous
posts of mine, there have never been dozens of questions asked by me.

In fact the key point should have been staring you in the face.

The fact that you are unable to find it is not my problem.

In fact there have been times when I have reposted what I wanted you
to address.

And still your responses have not addressed that point in question.

Again it isn't my problem that you cannot respond correctly to a point
when it is reposted.

Do try not to put the blame on others for your own shortcomings.

It doesn't do your status any good.

Devils Advocaat

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Apr 3, 2012, 4:51:33 AM4/3/12

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On Apr 3, 8:37 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article

> <72346c6f-b755-4570-82a0-c2c2b574a...@w5g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>, Devils

How does that answer my question?

Devils Advocaat

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Apr 3, 2012, 4:57:40 AM4/3/12

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On Apr 3, 8:39 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article

> <e5b60ba6-f536-4236-ad02-70abf1495...@h5g2000vbx.googlegroups.com>, Devils

Another fine example of your failing to follow the path of the
discussion.

Alex W.

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Apr 3, 2012, 6:30:50 AM4/3/12

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Interesting.
In other words, scripture tells of a big roadsign that comes up
when the rapture occurs, reading "Rapture This Way,
English-Speakers Only". Foreigners need not apply, is that it?

David Fritzinger

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Apr 3, 2012, 7:09:58 AM4/3/12

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In article <Jason-03041...@66-53-208-29.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Yes, as an aside. By you. Still doesn't have anything to do with the
discussion.

Mitchell Holman

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Apr 3, 2012, 9:03:16 AM4/3/12

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Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-03041...@66-53-208-29.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:

Where does the Bible say anything about Jews
being "raptured"?

harry k

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Apr 3, 2012, 12:50:31 PM4/3/12

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On Mar 30, 11:08 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <kakcn755jl8lsp22vo2e08id1sh407r...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch

>
>
>
>
>
> <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:06:20 -0800, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > alt.talk.creationism:
>

> > >In article <dfritzin-701617.19232129032...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > >David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> In article

> > >> <Jason-2903121333390...@66-53-214-147.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

> > >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > >> > In article <dfritzin-ACD06F.08374829032...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > >> > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
>

> > >> > > In article <Jason-2803122127160...@66.53.221.101>,

> > >> > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > >> > > > In article
>

> <dfritzin-83414E.22012028032...@news.eternal-september.org>,

Seems it is doing a poor job for you. Here it is in 2012 and NOTHING
hhas ever been found tshowing a god or gods hand(s) messing in
anything.

Harry K

harry k

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Apr 3, 2012, 12:53:57 PM4/3/12

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On Apr 3, 12:42 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article

> <1ea1dbec-da9f-4303-9763-54fd99705...@x5g2000pbl.googlegroups.com>, harry

Why did he lie when he said it would happen some 2000 years ago?

Harry K

Jason

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Apr 3, 2012, 4:36:48 PM4/3/12

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In article <1oyj9y4ct8ub9.1bsx65aqq3ocm$.d...@40tude.net>,

There are Christians in most of the countries in the world. I once read
that there are more Christians in China than America.

Jason

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Apr 3, 2012, 4:38:57 PM4/3/12

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In article
<42b75959-1194-485d...@h20g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 3, 8:37=A0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article

> > <72346c6f-b755-4570-82a0-c2c2b574a...@w5g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>, Devil=
> s
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > On Mar 31, 7:08=3DA0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > In article <kakcn755jl8lsp22vo2e08id1sh407r...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> >
> > > > <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

> > > > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:06:20 -0800, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote =
> in
> > > > > alt.talk.creationism:
> >
> > > > > >In article <dfritzin-701617.19232129032...@news.eternal-september.=
> org>=3D

> > > ,
> > > > > >David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > >> In article
> > > > > >> <Jason-2903121333390...@66-53-214-147.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

> > > > > >> =3DA0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > > > >> > In article <dfritzin-ACD06F.08374829032...@news.eternal-septem=
> ber.=3D

> > > org>,
> > > > > >> > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > >> > > In article <Jason-2803122127160...@66.53.221.101>,

> > > > > >> > > =3DA0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > > > >> > > > In article
> >
> > > > <dfritzin-83414E.22012028032...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >
> > > > > >> > > > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> [snip]

> > > > > >> > > > > Now, I repeat. Why are you believing heathens when it co=
> mes =3D

> > > to
> > > > > >the end
> > > > > >> > > > > of the earth.
> >

> > > > > >> > > > > Don't answer. I know. You so want the world to end, so y=
> ou c=3D
> > > an
> > > > > >laugh at
> > > > > >> > > > > all of us who have been giving you such a hard time here=
> , th=3D

> > > at
> > > > > >you are
> > > > > >> > > > > wiling to believe anybody that supports your wish.
> >
> > > > > >> > > > > BTW, where did the water go?
> >
> > > > > >> > > > I have respect for the Maya so I will not refer to them as
> > > > heathens. You
> > > > > >> > > > need to take a P.C. class.
> >

> > > > > >> > > What a hypocrite you are. You are certainly willing to insul=
> t Mu=3D
> > > slims,
> > > > > >> > > despite the fact they worship the same god as you, but you s=

> ay
> > > > you have
> > > > > >> > > respect for the Mayas. That wouldn't be because the
> >
> > > > misinterpretation of
> >
> > > > > >> > > some of their writings say thing you want to hear, would it?
> >
> > > > > >> > > What a credulous hypocrite you are.
> >
> > > > > >> > > > Yes, I do want the rapture to happen ASAP. I am helping my
> > > > neighbor take
> > > > > >> > > > care of her 81 year old father that is slowly dying due to
> > > > heart failure

> > > > > >> > > > and two different bone diseases. I don't want to die that =
> way.=3D
> > > =A0He is
> > > > > >> > > > totally disabled and is losing his memory. It's a terrible=
> way
> > > > to die.
> > > > > >> > > > The
> > > > > >> > > > rapture would be far better than dying that way. I have he=

> art
> > > > > >disease but
> > > > > >> > > > don't have heart failure--thank goodness for that.
> >

> > > > > >> > > You selfish jerk. You don't want to die in a certain way, so=
> you=3D
> > > =A0hope
> > > > > >> > > for the end of the world. What a self-pitying, selfish hypoc=
> rite=3D
> > > =A0you
> > > > > >> > > are. Thank god I know many Christians who are normal people.=
> If
> > > > you were
> > > > > >> > > my only example of a Christian, I would think they were hate=
> ful,
> > > > > >> > > horrible people.
> >
> > > > > >> > Believe it or not, the world that we presently have will event=
> uall=3D
> > > y come
> > > > > >> > to an end. It's a fact. It's fortunate that a huge asteroid ha=
> s no=3D
> > > t hit
> > > > > >> > America in the last 1000 years. I did read about a small aster=
> oid =3D
> > > hitting
> > > > > >> > the former Soviet Union. Thank goodness, that is was a small o=
> ne.
> >
> > > > > >> I hope you do realize that what you just wrote has little to do =
> with=3D
> > > =A0the
> > > > > >> conversation we were having previously. Don't you have the abili=
> ty t=3D

> > > o
> > > > > >> keep your posts on topic? Apparently, you don't.
> >

> > > > > >Believe it or not, if the rapture happened today--it would just me=
> an t=3D
> > > hat
> > > > > >all Christians and Jews went to heaven. Billions of people would r=
> emai=3D
> > > n on
> > > > > >the earth . Books have been written about what may happen on the e=
> arth
> > > > > >after the rapture happens. They are called the "Left Behind" serie=
> s of
> > > > > >books. They have made DVD movies based on some of those Left Behin=
> d bo=3D

> > > oks.
> > > > > >You can buy those books and DVDs at any Christian Book Store.
> >

> > > > > >I hope the rapture happens during my life time. My father also hop=
> ed t=3D
> > > he
> > > > > >rapture would happen during his life time. He had heart disease an=
> d lu=3D
> > > ng
> > > > > >disease due to breathing in mustard gas when he was involved in a =

> war.
> >
> > > > > Your view of rapture is not shared by most of the self-righteous

> > > > > rapture-worshippers with their smug bumperstickers about how they w=

> ill
> > > > > be raptured.
> >
> > > > > Anyway, it will not happen.
> >
> > > > Time will tell
> >
> > > How many generations have hoped for the rapture in their lifetimes?
> >

> > Since about the year 1560 when English Bibles first started to be printed=

> .
>
> How does that answer my question?

I don't know how long generations were in the 1500's and 1600's and 1700's.

Jason

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Apr 3, 2012, 4:40:59 PM4/3/12

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In article <XnsA02A512819891...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell

I know for a fact that at least some Jews will be raptured.

Jason

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Apr 3, 2012, 4:40:21 PM4/3/12

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In article
<ca2b2d72-9dfe-4dc9...@mq9g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>, harry
k <turnk...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 30, 11:08=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <kakcn755jl8lsp22vo2e08id1sh407r...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:06:20 -0800, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > alt.talk.creationism:
> >

> > > >In article <dfritzin-701617.19232129032...@news.eternal-september.org>=

> ,
> > > >David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >> In article
> > > >> <Jason-2903121333390...@66-53-214-147.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

> > > >> =A0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > >> > In article <dfritzin-ACD06F.08374829032...@news.eternal-september.=

> org>,
> > > >> > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >> > > In article <Jason-2803122127160...@66.53.221.101>,

> > > >> > > =A0Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> > > >> > > > In article
> >
> > <dfritzin-83414E.22012028032...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >
> >
> >
> > > >> > > > David Fritzinger <dfrit...@nospamtome.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> [snip]

> > > >> > > > > Now, I repeat. Why are you believing heathens when it comes =

> to
> > > >the end
> > > >> > > > > of the earth.
> >

> > > >> > > > > Don't answer. I know. You so want the world to end, so you c=
> an
> > > >laugh at
> > > >> > > > > all of us who have been giving you such a hard time here, th=

> at
> > > >you are
> > > >> > > > > wiling to believe anybody that supports your wish.
> >
> > > >> > > > > BTW, where did the water go?
> >
> > > >> > > > I have respect for the Maya so I will not refer to them as
> > heathens. You
> > > >> > > > need to take a P.C. class.
> >

> > > >> > > What a hypocrite you are. You are certainly willing to insult Mu=

> slims,
> > > >> > > despite the fact they worship the same god as you, but you say
> > you have
> > > >> > > respect for the Mayas. That wouldn't be because the
> >
> > misinterpretation of
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > >> > > some of their writings say thing you want to hear, would it?
> >
> > > >> > > What a credulous hypocrite you are.
> >
> > > >> > > > Yes, I do want the rapture to happen ASAP. I am helping my
> > neighbor take
> > > >> > > > care of her 81 year old father that is slowly dying due to
> > heart failure