On Thursday, April 5, 2012 8:50:18 PM UTC+2, Jason wrote:
> In article
> <f407281b-71a4-4e43-8bdb-872afc4eb...@js1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>, harry
> k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 4, 10:16=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <99dafb4e-818a-4a5b-a731-b9bc0e8da...@v7g2000pbs.googlegroups.com>, harry
> > > k <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Apr 4, 4:59=3DA0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > > > > In article
> > > > > <550f4cfd-6f8a-47c3-b8a4-fcfc592b0...@qg3g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>, =
> > harr=3D
> > > > y
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > Believe it or not, if the rapture happened today--it=
> > wou=3D
> > > > ld
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > just mean that all Christians and Jews went to heave=
> > n.
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > Billions of people would remain o=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> n
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > the earth . Books have been written about what may h=
> > appe=3D
> > > > n on
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > the earth after the rapture happens. They are called=
> > the
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > "Left
> > > > > > > > >> Behind"
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > series of books. They have made DVD movies based on =
> > some=3D
> > > > =A0of
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > those Left Behind books=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> .
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > You can buy those books and DVDs at any Christian Bo=
> > ok S=3D
> > > > tore=3D3D
> > > > > > .
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > I hope the rapture happens during my life time. My f=
> > athe=3D
> > > > r
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > also hoped the rapture would happen during his life =
> > time=3D
> > > > . He
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > had heart disease and lung disease due to breathing =
> > in
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > mustard gas when he was involved in a war.
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> Sounds like it would improve things on earth tremendou=
> > sly.=3D
> > > > =A0=3D3DA0=3D3D
> > > > > > At
> > > > > > > > >> least
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> it would stop some of the religious wars and persecuti=
> > on.
> > > > > > > > >> >> >> Harry K
> > > > > > > > >> >> > Only the Chistians and Jews would be raptured.
> > > > > > > > >> >> =3D3DA0 =3D3DA0Where does the Bible say anything about Je=
> > ws
> > > > > > > > >> >> being "raptured"?
> > > > > > > > >> > I know for a fact that at least some Jews will be raptured=
> > .
> > > > > > > > >> =3D3DA0 =3D3DA0 No you do not.
> > > > > > > > >> =3D3DA0 =3D3DA0 The Torah doesn't even mention it.
> > > > > > > > >> =3D3DA0 =3D3DA0 Where are you getting this from?
> > > > > > > > > I would prefer not to open that can of worms.
> > > > > > > > =3D3DA0 =3D3DA0 =3D3DA0Cite ANY Bible passage that directly
> > > > > > > > states Jews with be raptured.
> > > > > > > The scriptures in the OT about God blessing Abraham and the offsp=
> > ring=3D
> > > > =A0of
> > > > > > > Abraham and Sarah.
> > > > > > Nothing there abaout a rapture. =3DA0And while you are looking, try
> > > > > > finding a verse theat mentions whales.
> > > > > > Harry K
> > > > > Genesis 1:21
> > > > You are correct for a change. =A0There are some versions of the bible
> > > > that replace F"fish" with whales. =A0I wonder why what is. =A0Can you
> > > > guess? =A0I'll bet you can.
> > > > Harry K
> > > translation errors--it was a big fish--not a whale.
> > Exactly. There was no mention of whales in the original bible.
> > Theists such as you made the change to try to bolster their idiotic
> > myths.
> > Harry K
> It was a translation error. It has been fixed in newer versions of the Bible.
Doesn't that rather blow your "God created whales as it says in Genesis" out of the water. Can a retraction be expected?'
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Don't answer. I know. You so want the world =
> > to e=3D
> > > > nd, =3D3D
> > > > > > so y=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > ou c=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > > > > > >laugh at
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > all of us who have been giving you such a ha=
> > rd t=3D
> > > > ime =3D3D
> > > > > > here=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > , th=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > > >you are
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > wiling to believe anybody that supports your=
> > wis=3D
> > > > h.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > BTW, where did the water go?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > I have respect for the Maya so I will not refe=
> > r to=3D
> > > > =A0the=3D3D
> > > > > > m as
> > > > > > > > > > > heathens. You
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > need to take a P.C. class.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > What a hypocrite you are. You are certainly will=
> > ing =3D
> > > > to i=3D3D
> > > > > > nsul=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > t Mu=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > slims,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > despite the fact they worship the same god as yo=
> > u, b=3D
> > > > ut y=3D3D
> > > > > > ou s=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > ay
> > > > > > > > > > > you have
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > respect for the Mayas. That wouldn't be because =
> > the
> > > > > > > > > > > misinterpretation of
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > some of their writings say thing you want to hea=
> > r, w=3D
> > > > ould=3D3D
> > > > > > =3DA0it?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > What a credulous hypocrite you are.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > Yes, I do want the rapture to happen ASAP. I a=
> > m he=3D
> > > > lpin=3D3D
> > > > > > g my
> > > > > > > > > > > neighbor take
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > care of her 81 year old father that is slowly =
> > dyin=3D
> > > > g du=3D3D
> > > > > > e to
> > > > > > > > > > > heart failure
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > and two different bone diseases. I don't want =
> > to d=3D
> > > > ie t=3D3D
> > > > > > hat =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > way.=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > =3D3D3DA0He is
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > totally disabled and is losing his memory. It'=
> > s a =3D
> > > > terr=3D3D
> > > > > > ible=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > =3D3DA0way
> > > > > > > > > > > to die.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > The
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > rapture would be far better than dying that wa=
> > y. I=3D
> > > > =A0hav=3D3D
> > > > > > e he=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > art
> > > > > > > > > > > > >disease but
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > don't have heart failure--thank goodness for t=
> > hat.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > You selfish jerk. You don't want to die in a cer=
> > tain=3D
> > > > =A0way=3D3D
> > > > > > , so=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > =3D3DA0you=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > =3D3D3DA0hope
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > for the end of the world. What a self-pitying, s=
> > elfi=3D
> > > > sh h=3D3D
> > > > > > ypoc=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > rite=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > =3D3D3DA0you
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > are. Thank god I know many Christians who are no=
> > rmal=3D
> > > > =A0peo=3D3D
> > > > > > ple.=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > =3D3DA0If
> > > > > > > > > > > you were
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > my only example of a Christian, I would think th=
> > ey w=3D
> > > > ere =3D3D
> > > > > > hate=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > ful,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > horrible people.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Believe it or not, the world that we presently hav=
> > e wi=3D
> > > > ll e=3D3D
> > > > > > vent=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > uall=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > y come
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > to an end. It's a fact. It's fortunate that a huge=
> > ast=3D
> > > > eroi=3D3D
> > > > > > d ha=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > s no=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > t hit
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > America in the last 1000 years. I did read about a=
> > sma=3D
> > > > ll a=3D3D
> > > > > > ster=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > oid =3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > hitting
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > the former Soviet Union. Thank goodness, that is w=
> > as a=3D
> > > > =A0sma=3D3D
> > > > > > ll o=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > ne.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> I hope you do realize that what you just wrote has l=
> > ittl=3D
> > > > e to=3D3D
> > > > > > =3DA0do =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > with=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > =3D3D3DA0the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> conversation we were having previously. Don't you ha=
> > ve t=3D
> > > > he a=3D3D
> > > > > > bili=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > ty t=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > o
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> keep your posts on topic? Apparently, you don't.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >Believe it or not, if the rapture happened today--it w=
> > ould=3D
> > > > =A0jus=3D3D
> > > > > > t me=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > an t=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > hat
> > > > > > > > > > > > >all Christians and Jews went to heaven. Billions of pe=
> > ople=3D
> > > > =A0wou=3D3D
> > > > > > ld r=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > emai=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > n on
> > > > > > > > > > > > >the earth . Books have been written about what may hap=
> > pen =3D
> > > > on t=3D3D
> > > > > > he e=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > arth
> > > > > > > > > > > > >after the rapture happens. They are called the "Left B=
> > ehin=3D
> > > > d" s=3D3D
> > > > > > erie=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > s of
> > > > > > > > > > > > >books. They have made DVD movies based on some of thos=
> > e Le=3D
> > > > ft B=3D3D
> > > > > > ehin=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > d bo=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > oks.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >You can buy those books and DVDs at any Christian Book=
> > Sto=3D
> > > > re.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >I hope the rapture happens during my life time. My fat=
> > her =3D
> > > > also=3D3D
> > > > > > =3DA0hop=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > ed t=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > he
> > > > > > > > > > > > >rapture would happen during his life time. He had hear=
> > t di=3D
> > > > seas=3D3D
> > > > > > e an=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > d lu=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > ng
> > > > > > > > > > > > >disease due to breathing in mustard gas when he was in=
> > volv=3D
> > > > ed i=3D3D
> > > > > > n a =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > war.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Your view of rapture is not shared by most of the self-=
> > righ=3D
> > > > teou=3D3D
> > > > > > s
> > > > > > > > > > > > rapture-worshippers with their smug bumperstickers abou=
> > t ho=3D
> > > > w th=3D3D
> > > > > > ey w=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > ill
> > > > > > > > > > > > be raptured.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > Believe it or not, if the rapture happened today=
> --it=3D
> > > =A0wou=3D3D
> > > > > ld
> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > just mean that all Christians and Jews went to h=
> eave=3D
> > > n.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > Billions of people would remain o=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> n
> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > the earth . Books have been written about what m=
> ay h=3D
> > > appe=3D3D
> > > > > n on
> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > the earth after the rapture happens. They are ca=
> lled=3D
> > > =A0the
> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > "Left
> > > > > > > > > >> Behind"
> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > series of books. They have made DVD movies based=
> on =3D
> > > some=3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0of
> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > those Left Behind books=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> .
> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > You can buy those books and DVDs at any Christia=
> n Bo=3D
> > > ok S=3D3D
> > > > > tore=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > .
> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > I hope the rapture happens during my life time. =
> My f=3D
> > > athe=3D3D
> > > > > r
> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > also hoped the rapture would happen during his l=
> ife =3D
> > > time=3D3D
> > > > > . He
> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > had heart disease and lung disease due to breath=
> ing =3D
> > > in
> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > mustard gas when he was involved in a war.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> Sounds like it would improve things on earth treme=
> ndou=3D
> > > sly.=3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0=3D3D3DA0=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > At
> > > > > > > > > >> least
> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> it would stop some of the religious wars and perse=
> cuti=3D
> > > on.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> Harry K
> > > > > > > > > >> >> > Only the Chistians and Jews would be raptured.
> > > > > > > > > >> >> =3D3D3DA0 =3D3D3DA0Where does the Bible say anything =
> about Je=3D
> > > ws
> > > > > > > > > >> >> being "raptured"?
> > > > > > > > > >> > I know for a fact that at least some Jews will be rapt=
> ured=3D
> > > .
> > > > > > > > > >> =3D3D3DA0 =3D3D3DA0 No you do not.
> > > > > > > > > >> =3D3D3DA0 =3D3D3DA0 The Torah doesn't even mention it.
> > > > > > > > > >> =3D3D3DA0 =3D3D3DA0 Where are you getting this from?
> > > > > > > > > > I would prefer not to open that can of worms.
> > > > > > > > > =3D3D3DA0 =3D3D3DA0 =3D3D3DA0Cite ANY Bible passage that di=
> rectly
> > > > > > > > > states Jews with be raptured.
> > > > > > > > The scriptures in the OT about God blessing Abraham and the o=
> ffsp=3D
> > > ring=3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0of
> > > > > > > > Abraham and Sarah.
> > > > > > > Nothing there abaout a rapture. =3D3DA0And while you are lookin=
> g, try
> > > > > > > finding a verse theat mentions whales.
> > > > > > > Harry K
> > > > > > Genesis 1:21
> > > > > You are correct for a change. =3DA0There are some versions of the b=
> ible
> > > > > that replace F"fish" with whales. =3DA0I wonder why what is. =3DA0C=
> an you
> > > > > guess? =3DA0I'll bet you can.
> > > > > Harry K
> > > > translation errors--it was a big fish--not a whale.
> > > Exactly. =A0There was no mention of whales in the original bible.
> > > Theists such as you made the change to try to bolster their idiotic
> > > myths.
> > > Harry K
> > It was a translation error. It has been fixed in newer versions of the Bi=
> ble.
> So they have reverted to the original "fish"? That is what was in the
> original language you know. That is good news.
> Harry K
Yes, it is. They have also fixed some other bad translation problems.
>>> Still you fail to answer those three recent questions.
>>> But never mind.
>>> Try this one on for size.
>>> When was the first bible of the Christian faith compiled?
>> I'll take a guess that is was probably the first or second century.
> > > > > > > > > > =3D3D3DA0 =3D3D3DA0 =3D3D3DA0Cite ANY Bible passage that di=
> > rectly
> > > > > > > > > > states Jews with be raptured.
> > > > > > > > > The scriptures in the OT about God blessing Abraham and the o=
> > ffsp=3D
> > > > ring=3D3D
> > > > > > =3DA0of
> > > > > > > > > Abraham and Sarah.
> > > > > > > > Nothing there abaout a rapture. =3D3DA0And while you are lookin=
> > g, try
> > > > > > > > finding a verse theat mentions whales.
> > > > > > > > Harry K
> > > > > > > Genesis 1:21
> > > > > > You are correct for a change. =3DA0There are some versions of the b=
> > ible
> > > > > > that replace F"fish" with whales. =3DA0I wonder why what is. =3DA0C=
> > an you
> > > > > > guess? =3DA0I'll bet you can.
> > > > > > Harry K
> > > > > translation errors--it was a big fish--not a whale.
> > > > Exactly. =A0There was no mention of whales in the original bible.
> > > > Theists such as you made the change to try to bolster their idiotic
> > > > myths.
> > > > Harry K
> > > It was a translation error. It has been fixed in newer versions of the Bi=
> > ble.
> > So they have reverted to the original "fish"? That is what was in the
> > original language you know. That is good news.
> > Harry K
> Yes, it is. They have also fixed some other bad translation problems.
Translation "changed the text to try to make it at least somewhat
plausible. See "Whales"
On Saturday, April 7, 2012 8:50:22 AM UTC+2, Jason wrote:
> In article
> <8aa6c767-5210-40ce-b453-10805187d...@er9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
> Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 6, 7:21=A0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > [snipped for brevity]
> > > > Still you fail to answer those three recent questions.
> > > > But never mind.
> > > > Try this one on for size.
> > > > When was the first bible of the Christian faith compiled?
> > > I'll take a guess that is was probably the first or second century.
On Saturday, April 7, 2012 8:50:22 AM UTC+2, Jason wrote:
> In article
> <8aa6c767-5210-40ce-b453-10805187d...@er9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
> Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 6, 7:21=A0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > [snipped for brevity]
> > > > Still you fail to answer those three recent questions.
> > > > But never mind.
> > > > Try this one on for size.
> > > > When was the first bible of the Christian faith compiled?
> > > I'll take a guess that is was probably the first or second century.
> > > > Still you fail to answer those three recent questions.
> > > > But never mind.
> > > > Try this one on for size.
> > > > When was the first bible of the Christian faith compiled?
> > > I'll take a guess that is was probably the first or second century.
> > Wrong.
> OK when was it is compiled?
The Fifty Bibles of Constantine were Bibles commissioned in 331 AD by
Constantine I and prepared by Eusebius of Caesarea.
The Latin Vulgate is a late 4th-century Latin translation of the
Bible. It was largely the work of St. Jerome, who was commissioned by
Pope Damasus I in 382 to make a revision of the old Latin
translations.
So as you can see there was no actual Christian Bible until the 4th
Century AD.
>>> > > Still you fail to answer those three recent questions.
>>> > > But never mind.
>>> > > Try this one on for size.
>>> > > When was the first bible of the Christian faith compiled?
>>> > I'll take a guess that is was probably the first or second century.
>>> Wrong.
>> OK when was it is compiled?
> The Fifty Bibles of Constantine were Bibles commissioned in 331 AD by
> Constantine I and prepared by Eusebius of Caesarea.
> The Latin Vulgate is a late 4th-century Latin translation of the
> Bible. It was largely the work of St. Jerome, who was commissioned by
> Pope Damasus I in 382 to make a revision of the old Latin
> translations.
> So as you can see there was no actual Christian Bible until the 4th
> Century AD.
And the bible as it is today was not fixed or "canonical"
until the Council of Trent in 1546 (Catholicism) and the
Westminster Confession of Faith of 1647 for the Protestants.
> > > > > Still you fail to answer those three recent questions.
> > > > > But never mind.
> > > > > Try this one on for size.
> > > > > When was the first bible of the Christian faith compiled?
> > > > I'll take a guess that is was probably the first or second century.
> > > Wrong.
> > OK when was it is compiled?
> The Fifty Bibles of Constantine were Bibles commissioned in 331 AD by
> Constantine I and prepared by Eusebius of Caesarea.
> The Latin Vulgate is a late 4th-century Latin translation of the
> Bible. It was largely the work of St. Jerome, who was commissioned by
> Pope Damasus I in 382 to make a revision of the old Latin
> translations.
> So as you can see there was no actual Christian Bible until the 4th
> Century AD.
The Catholics had a lot to do with keeping the Bible out of the hands of
the vast majority of people. Thank god for the invention of the printing
press.
> > > > > > Still you fail to answer those three recent questions.
> > > > > > But never mind.
> > > > > > Try this one on for size.
> > > > > > When was the first bible of the Christian faith compiled?
> > > > > I'll take a guess that is was probably the first or second century.
> > > > Wrong.
> > > OK when was it is compiled?
> > The Fifty Bibles of Constantine were Bibles commissioned in 331 AD by
> > Constantine I and prepared by Eusebius of Caesarea.
> > The Latin Vulgate is a late 4th-century Latin translation of the
> > Bible. It was largely the work of St. Jerome, who was commissioned by
> > Pope Damasus I in 382 to make a revision of the old Latin
> > translations.
> > So as you can see there was no actual Christian Bible until the 4th
> > Century AD.
> The Catholics had a lot to do with keeping the Bible out of the hands of
> the vast majority of people.
Are you blaming the Catholic Church for the fact there was no Bible
before the 4th Century AD?
> Thank god for the invention of the printing
> press.
Your god had nothing to do with the printing press.
> > > > > > > Still you fail to answer those three recent questions.
> > > > > > > But never mind.
> > > > > > > Try this one on for size.
> > > > > > > When was the first bible of the Christian faith compiled?
> > > > > > I'll take a guess that is was probably the first or second centur=
> y.
> > > > > Wrong.
> > > > OK when was it is compiled?
> > > The Fifty Bibles of Constantine were Bibles commissioned in 331 AD by
> > > Constantine I and prepared by Eusebius of Caesarea.
> > > The Latin Vulgate is a late 4th-century Latin translation of the
> > > Bible. It was largely the work of St. Jerome, who was commissioned by
> > > Pope Damasus I in 382 to make a revision of the old Latin
> > > translations.
> > > So as you can see there was no actual Christian Bible until the 4th
> > > Century AD.
> > The Catholics had a lot to do with keeping the Bible out of the hands of
> > the vast majority of people.
> Are you blaming the Catholic Church for the fact there was no Bible
> before the 4th Century AD?
> > Thank god for the invention of the printing
> > press.
> Your god had nothing to do with the printing press.
No--but before the printing press was invented, most people did not have
their own Bibles.
> > > > > > > > Still you fail to answer those three recent questions.
> > > > > > > > But never mind.
> > > > > > > > Try this one on for size.
> > > > > > > > When was the first bible of the Christian faith compiled?
> > > > > > > I'll take a guess that is was probably the first or second centur=
> > y.
> > > > > > Wrong.
> > > > > OK when was it is compiled?
> > > > The Fifty Bibles of Constantine were Bibles commissioned in 331 AD by
> > > > Constantine I and prepared by Eusebius of Caesarea.
> > > > The Latin Vulgate is a late 4th-century Latin translation of the
> > > > Bible. It was largely the work of St. Jerome, who was commissioned by
> > > > Pope Damasus I in 382 to make a revision of the old Latin
> > > > translations.
> > > > So as you can see there was no actual Christian Bible until the 4th
> > > > Century AD.
> > > The Catholics had a lot to do with keeping the Bible out of the hands of
> > > the vast majority of people.
> > Are you blaming the Catholic Church for the fact there was no Bible
> > before the 4th Century AD?
> > > Thank god for the invention of the printing
> > > press.
> > Your god had nothing to do with the printing press.
> No--but before the printing press was invented, most people did not have
> their own Bibles.
Jason wrote:
> In article <idednbfbjrJf3x3SnZ2dnUVZ_sSdn...@giganews.com>, linuxgal
> <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>> Devils Advocaat wrote:
>>> So as you can see there was no actual Christian Bible until the 4th
>>> Century AD.
>> Gosh, think of all the Christians for three hundred years that went to >> hell because they never opened a Bible.
> There were preachers of the gospel even in those days.
>>>>> So as you can see there was no actual Christian Bible until the 4th
>>>>> Century AD.
>>>> Gosh, think of all the Christians for three hundred years that went to
>>>> hell because they never opened a Bible.
>>> There were preachers of the gospel even in those days.
>> The gospels were only a tiny part of the Bible.
> Good point. It must have been great after the printing press was invented.
> It meant that regular people could have their own Bibles.
No, not for a great while. First, books were oppressively expensive; second, most folks couldn't read anyway. While the printing press later dramatically lowered the price of books, and while the Bible was the most-printed book, in Europe at least it wasn't until late in the 1600's when middle-class folks, at least those in countries (like Scotland) with free public education, could both have and read books.
> > > > > > So as you can see there was no actual Christian Bible until the 4=
> th
> > > > > > Century AD.
> > > > > Gosh, think of all the Christians for three hundred years that went=
> to
> > > > > hell because they never opened a Bible.
> > > > There were preachers of the gospel even in those days.
> > > The gospels were only a tiny part of the Bible.
> > Good point. It must have been great after the printing press was invented=
> .
> > It meant that regular people could have their own Bibles.
> Actually that didn't happen Jason.
> The first printed Bibles, while significantly cheaper than manuscript
> Bibles.
> They were way beyond what "regular" people could afford.
> Also, even then most people were illiterate.
That all changed after the first King James Bibles were printed on
thousands of different printing presses. It became the best selling book
in the world and is still the best selling book in the world. Most every
person in America has a copy of the Bible.
