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Loirbaj
Feb 16, 2012, 8:25:37 AM2/16/12
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Stung by recent surveys showing that atheists are
more reviled by society than even child molesters,
and with science abandoning them as relicts of an old
victorian era, they won't give up without a last whimper.
Even as they see their leaders openly embracing God,
calling for Temples to built, and others claiming that
'godlike' aliens must exist to give their life a purpose.
It almost seems like atheists 'are cursed': the recent
horrifying death of Hitchens, the living death that Steve
Hawking endures, the paralytic stutter of Dawkins as
he struggles to debate a Christian scientist. In this
twilight of atheism, with both the public and all of
modern science against them, there seems no refuge.
more reviled by society than even child molesters,
and with science abandoning them as relicts of an old
victorian era, they won't give up without a last whimper.
Even as they see their leaders openly embracing God,
calling for Temples to built, and others claiming that
'godlike' aliens must exist to give their life a purpose.
It almost seems like atheists 'are cursed': the recent
horrifying death of Hitchens, the living death that Steve
Hawking endures, the paralytic stutter of Dawkins as
he struggles to debate a Christian scientist. In this
twilight of atheism, with both the public and all of
modern science against them, there seems no refuge.
R Brown
Feb 16, 2012, 9:10:16 AM2/16/12
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If you do anything other than laugh at this pathetic drivel and shake
your head at the waste of humanity that is creationism then you might
be a godsmacked nutcase too!
That's why I say ...
"When you're talking with a creationist, it's not the heat, it's the
stupidity." - R.Brown
--
Phlip
Feb 16, 2012, 9:41:33 AM2/16/12
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On Feb 16, 5:25 am, Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> Stung by recent surveys showing that atheists are
> more reviled by society than even child molesters,
Studies also show atheists often know their Bible (and history) better
> Stung by recent surveys showing that atheists are
> more reviled by society than even child molesters,
than some people who have a special need to brag all day how
"Christian" they are.
So let's hear more "love thy neighbor" and less rabid hate from you, k?
Tronscend
Feb 16, 2012, 10:18:35 AM2/16/12
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"Loirbaj" <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> skrev i melding
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Vurgil
Feb 16, 2012, 7:06:37 PM2/16/12
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In article
<9839fa90-91f6-471b...@m2g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> Stung by recent surveys showing that top scientists are
> more anticreationist than anyone, Liarboi and fasgnadh
> bow each other.
After two hours of conversation, Professor Dawkins walks
far afield. He talks of the possibility that we might
co-evolve with computers, a silicon destiny. And heąs
intrigued by the playful, even soul-stirring writings
of Freeman Dyson, the theoretical physicist.
In one essay, Professor Dyson casts millions of speculative
years into the future. Our galaxy is dying and humans have
evolved into something like bolts of superpowerful
intelligent and moral energy."
[So the context of discussion is now established as being
in Dyson's far future, and the following must be interpreted
in that context]
"Doesnąt that description sound an awful lot like God?"
[Again establishing that the context is Dyson's future universe]
łCertainly,˛ Professor Dawkins replies. łItąs highly
plausible that in the [Dyson future] universe there
are God-like creatures.˛
He raises his hand, just in case a reader thinks heąs gone
around a religious bend. łItąs very important to
understand that these [future] Gods came into being by an
explicable scientific progression of incremental evolution.˛
Could they be immortal?
The professor shrugs. łProbably not.˛ He smiles and adds ,
łBut I wouldnąt want to be too dogmatic about that.˛
The complete article appeared in print on September 20, 2011, in
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
<9839fa90-91f6-471b...@m2g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> Stung by recent surveys showing that top scientists are
> more anticreationist than anyone, Liarboi and fasgnadh
> bow each other.
After two hours of conversation, Professor Dawkins walks
far afield. He talks of the possibility that we might
co-evolve with computers, a silicon destiny. And heąs
intrigued by the playful, even soul-stirring writings
of Freeman Dyson, the theoretical physicist.
In one essay, Professor Dyson casts millions of speculative
years into the future. Our galaxy is dying and humans have
evolved into something like bolts of superpowerful
intelligent and moral energy."
[So the context of discussion is now established as being
in Dyson's far future, and the following must be interpreted
in that context]
"Doesnąt that description sound an awful lot like God?"
[Again establishing that the context is Dyson's future universe]
łCertainly,˛ Professor Dawkins replies. łItąs highly
plausible that in the [Dyson future] universe there
are God-like creatures.˛
He raises his hand, just in case a reader thinks heąs gone
around a religious bend. łItąs very important to
understand that these [future] Gods came into being by an
explicable scientific progression of incremental evolution.˛
Could they be immortal?
The professor shrugs. łProbably not.˛ He smiles and adds ,
łBut I wouldnąt want to be too dogmatic about that.˛
The complete article appeared in print on September 20, 2011, in
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
Vurgil
Feb 16, 2012, 7:08:54 PM2/16/12
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In article
<6668a00d-fb1d-4cf4...@z31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>,
Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> Click to Wiki and look at recent polls.
> In every one, Creationists are more despised
> by the public than any common criminal.
> Why is this?
Because Creationism is the basis of those radical Moslem movements that
everyone else is fighting against.
<6668a00d-fb1d-4cf4...@z31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>,
Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> Click to Wiki and look at recent polls.
> In every one, Creationists are more despised
> by the public than any common criminal.
> Why is this?
Because Creationism is the basis of those radical Moslem movements that
everyone else is fighting against.
Devils Advocaat
Feb 16, 2012, 7:45:22 PM2/16/12
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Yap
Feb 16, 2012, 10:30:08 PM2/16/12
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He is taking vengeance of some sort, aimlessly..........
Phlip
Feb 16, 2012, 11:12:20 PM2/16/12
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Paul David Wright
Feb 17, 2012, 4:34:08 PM2/17/12
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Loirbaj <Rhod...@wmconnect.com> wrote in
news:9839fa90-91f6-471b...@m2g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
> Stung
Nope.
We are not going to go away, no matter how hard you wish us too,
ignorant loser.
--
PDW
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The first is a preview of my superhero comic book.
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news:9839fa90-91f6-471b...@m2g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
> Stung
Nope.
We are not going to go away, no matter how hard you wish us too,
ignorant loser.
--
PDW
Check out my blog:
The first is a preview of my superhero comic book.
http://incognitoheroes.blogspot.com/
http://corneliusaddaptionproject.blogspot.com/
And my books:
http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/pdwright42
Gladys Swager
Feb 17, 2012, 5:14:41 PM2/17/12
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On Feb 17, 11:08 am, Vurgil wrote:
Christian
-based organisations. They are not associated with radical religious/
nationalistic organisations.
Moslems need to learn that 82% of the quotations in the Qur'an come
from
the Biblical scriptures and most of those are from the Old Testament.
before the time of Jesus Christ.
Muhammad missed out on the teachings of Jesus recorded
in Matthew 5 : 44 - 45(a) "Love your enemies,
bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you,
and pray for them that despitefully use you, and persecute you;
that you may be the children of your Father Who is in Heaven.
Gladys Swager
> Loirbaj wrote:
> > Click to Wiki and look at recent polls.
> > In every one, Creationists are more despised
> > by the public than any common criminal.
> > Why is this?
>
> Because Creationism is the basis of those radical Moslem movements that
> everyone else is fighting against.
The Creation Ministries in Australia and USA and elsewhere are
> > Click to Wiki and look at recent polls.
> > In every one, Creationists are more despised
> > by the public than any common criminal.
> > Why is this?
>
> Because Creationism is the basis of those radical Moslem movements that
> everyone else is fighting against.
Christian
-based organisations. They are not associated with radical religious/
nationalistic organisations.
Moslems need to learn that 82% of the quotations in the Qur'an come
from
the Biblical scriptures and most of those are from the Old Testament.
before the time of Jesus Christ.
Muhammad missed out on the teachings of Jesus recorded
in Matthew 5 : 44 - 45(a) "Love your enemies,
bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you,
and pray for them that despitefully use you, and persecute you;
that you may be the children of your Father Who is in Heaven.
Gladys Swager
Phlip
Feb 17, 2012, 6:17:40 PM2/17/12
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On Feb 16, 5:25 am, Loirbaj <Rhodi...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
http://eris.posterous.com/this-weeks-penguin-just-wondering-because-the
Buddythunder
Feb 17, 2012, 7:19:13 PM2/17/12
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Barry OGrady
Feb 17, 2012, 7:26:52 PM2/17/12
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:14:41 -0800 (PST), Gladys Swager
<gsw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Feb 17, 11:08 am, Vurgil wrote:
>> Loirbaj wrote:
>> > Click to Wiki and look at recent polls.
>> > In every one, Creationists are more despised
>> > by the public than any common criminal.
>> > Why is this?
>>
>> Because Creationism is the basis of those radical Moslem movements that
>> everyone else is fighting against.
>
>The Creation Ministries in Australia and USA and elsewhere are
>Christian
>-based organisations. They are not associated with radical religious/
>nationalistic organisations.
>
>Moslems need to learn that 82% of the quotations in the Qur'an come
>from
>the Biblical scriptures and most of those are from the Old Testament.
>before the time of Jesus Christ.
Before the unchanging God changed from a war mongering
<gsw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Feb 17, 11:08 am, Vurgil wrote:
>> Loirbaj wrote:
>> > Click to Wiki and look at recent polls.
>> > In every one, Creationists are more despised
>> > by the public than any common criminal.
>> > Why is this?
>>
>> Because Creationism is the basis of those radical Moslem movements that
>> everyone else is fighting against.
>
>The Creation Ministries in Australia and USA and elsewhere are
>Christian
>-based organisations. They are not associated with radical religious/
>nationalistic organisations.
>
>Moslems need to learn that 82% of the quotations in the Qur'an come
>from
>the Biblical scriptures and most of those are from the Old Testament.
>before the time of Jesus Christ.
mass murderer to a wimpy peacenik?
Any book based on the bible has to be pure evil, and pure
fiction, right?
>Muhammad missed out on the teachings of Jesus recorded
>in Matthew 5 : 44 - 45(a) "Love your enemies,
>bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you,
>and pray for them that despitefully use you, and persecute you;
>that you may be the children of your Father Who is in Heaven.
in Matthew 10:34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
peace, but a sword.
What Would Jesus NOT Do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngM-hZGYKgE
We always hear about the many amazing things that Jesus of
Nazareth apparently did, but nobody ever asks about the things
that Jesus supposedly COULD have done, being omnipotent, but
either didn't bother to do or didn't think were all that important.
You know, things like... reducing human misery and suffering...
that kind of thing.
>Gladys Swager
=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=
God is a spirit. 0% proof!
Gladys Swager
Feb 17, 2012, 7:59:05 PM2/17/12
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On Feb 18, 11:26 am, Barry OGrady wrote:
> > with radical religious/nationalistic organisations.
that you might be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done
all,
to stand....and take the helmet of salvation,
and the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God.
Jesus was speaking metaphorically, as He often did.
Jesus came to empower those who chose to be His disciples
to change the evils in the world, to make the world a better place.
Many Christians have done that. But there are still those who
would act in ways in the hope of preventing the Christian gospel
being given.
Acts 8 : 28 And we know that all things work together for God
to those who love God, to them that are called according to His
purpose.
Gladys Swager
> On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Gladys Swager wrote:
>
> >The Creation Ministries in Australia and USA and elsewhere are
> >Christian based organisations. They are not associated
>
> >The Creation Ministries in Australia and USA and elsewhere are
> > with radical religious/nationalistic organisations.
>
> >Moslems need to learn that 82% of the quotations in the Qur'an come
> >from the Biblical scriptures and most of those are from the Old Testament.
> >before the time of Jesus Christ.
>
> Before the unchanging God changed from a war mongering
> mass murderer to a wimpy peacenik?
>
> Any book based on the bible has to be pure evil, and pure
> fiction, right?
>
> >Muhammad missed out on the teachings of Jesus recorded
> >in Matthew 5 : 44 - 45(a) "Love your enemies,
> >bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you,
> >and pray for them that despitefully use you, and persecute you;
> >that you may be the children of your Father Who is in Heaven.
>
> You missed out on the teachings of Jesus recorded
> in Matthew 10:34
> Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
> peace, but a sword.
>
Ephesians 6 : 13, 17 Wherefore take unto the whole armour of God,
> >Moslems need to learn that 82% of the quotations in the Qur'an come
> >from the Biblical scriptures and most of those are from the Old Testament.
> >before the time of Jesus Christ.
>
> Before the unchanging God changed from a war mongering
> mass murderer to a wimpy peacenik?
>
> Any book based on the bible has to be pure evil, and pure
> fiction, right?
>
> >Muhammad missed out on the teachings of Jesus recorded
> >in Matthew 5 : 44 - 45(a) "Love your enemies,
> >bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you,
> >and pray for them that despitefully use you, and persecute you;
> >that you may be the children of your Father Who is in Heaven.
>
> You missed out on the teachings of Jesus recorded
> in Matthew 10:34
> Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
> peace, but a sword.
>
that you might be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done
all,
to stand....and take the helmet of salvation,
and the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God.
Jesus was speaking metaphorically, as He often did.
Jesus came to empower those who chose to be His disciples
to change the evils in the world, to make the world a better place.
Many Christians have done that. But there are still those who
would act in ways in the hope of preventing the Christian gospel
being given.
Acts 8 : 28 And we know that all things work together for God
to those who love God, to them that are called according to His
purpose.
Gladys Swager
Barry OGrady
Feb 17, 2012, 8:46:58 PM2/17/12
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:59:05 -0800 (PST), Gladys Swager
<gsw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Feb 18, 11:26 am, Barry OGrady wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Gladys Swager wrote:
>>
>> >The Creation Ministries in Australia and USA and elsewhere are
>> >Christian based organisations. They are not associated
>> > with radical religious/nationalistic organisations.
>>
>> >Moslems need to learn that 82% of the quotations in the Qur'an come
>> >from the Biblical scriptures and most of those are from the Old Testament.
>> >before the time of Jesus Christ.
Before the unchanging* God changed from a war mongering
<gsw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Feb 18, 11:26 am, Barry OGrady wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Gladys Swager wrote:
>>
>> >The Creation Ministries in Australia and USA and elsewhere are
>> >Christian based organisations. They are not associated
>> > with radical religious/nationalistic organisations.
>>
>> >Moslems need to learn that 82% of the quotations in the Qur'an come
>> >from the Biblical scriptures and most of those are from the Old Testament.
>> >before the time of Jesus Christ.
mass murderer to a wimpy peacenik?
Any book based on the bible has to be pure evil, and pure
fiction, right?
>> >Muhammad missed out on the teachings of Jesus recorded
>> >in Matthew 5 : 44 - 45(a) "Love your enemies,
>> >bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you,
>> >and pray for them that despitefully use you, and persecute you;
>> >that you may be the children of your Father Who is in Heaven.
>>
>> You missed out on the teachings of Jesus recorded
>> in Matthew 10:34
>> Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
>> peace, but a sword.
>>
>Ephesians 6 : 13, 17 Wherefore take unto the whole armour of God,
>that you might be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done
>all, to stand....and take the helmet of salvation,
>and the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God.
Colossians 1:16 - 17
Any book based on the bible has to be pure evil, and pure
fiction, right?
>> >Muhammad missed out on the teachings of Jesus recorded
>> >in Matthew 5 : 44 - 45(a) "Love your enemies,
>> >bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you,
>> >and pray for them that despitefully use you, and persecute you;
>> >that you may be the children of your Father Who is in Heaven.
>>
>> You missed out on the teachings of Jesus recorded
>> in Matthew 10:34
>> Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
>> peace, but a sword.
>>
>Ephesians 6 : 13, 17 Wherefore take unto the whole armour of God,
>that you might be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done
>all, to stand....and take the helmet of salvation,
>and the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God.
For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are
in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or
dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by
him, and for him:
And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
>Jesus was speaking metaphorically, as He often did.
>Jesus came to empower those who chose to be His disciples
>to change the evils in the world, to make the world a better place.
from God? (Colossians 1:16)
What Would Jesus NOT Do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngM-hZGYKgE
We always hear about the many amazing things that Jesus of
Nazareth apparently did, but nobody ever asks about the things
that Jesus supposedly COULD have done, being omnipotent, but
either didn't bother to do or didn't think were all that important.
You know, things like... reducing human misery and suffering...
that kind of thing.
>Many Christians have done that. But there are still those who
>would act in ways in the hope of preventing the Christian gospel
>being given.
>Acts 8 : 28 And we know that all things work together for God
>to those who love God, to them that are called according to His
>purpose.
Every word of the bible is true, and we know the bible is true becuse
>would act in ways in the hope of preventing the Christian gospel
>being given.
>Acts 8 : 28 And we know that all things work together for God
>to those who love God, to them that are called according to His
>purpose.
the bible says the bible is true, and if you remember from the
beginning of this sentence every word of the bible is tue.
>Gladys Swager
*Conditions apply.
Petzl
Feb 17, 2012, 8:55:34 PM2/17/12
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:59:05 -0800 (PST), Gladys Swager
<gsw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> You missed out on the teachings of Jesus recorded
>> in Matthew 10:34
>> Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
>> peace, but a sword.
>>
>Ephesians 6 : 13, 17 Wherefore take unto the whole armour of God,
>that you might be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done
>all,
>to stand....and take the helmet of salvation,
>and the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God.
>
>Jesus was speaking metaphorically, as He often did.
>Jesus came to empower those who chose to be His disciples
>to change the evils in the world, to make the world a better place.
>Many Christians have done that. But there are still those who
>would act in ways in the hope of preventing the Christian gospel
>being given.
>Acts 8 : 28 And we know that all things work together for God
>to those who love God, to them that are called according to His
>purpose.
>Gladys Swager
These anti-creationist people would rather interpret the Gospel though
<gsw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> You missed out on the teachings of Jesus recorded
>> in Matthew 10:34
>> Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
>> peace, but a sword.
>>
>Ephesians 6 : 13, 17 Wherefore take unto the whole armour of God,
>that you might be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done
>all,
>to stand....and take the helmet of salvation,
>and the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God.
>
>Jesus was speaking metaphorically, as He often did.
>Jesus came to empower those who chose to be His disciples
>to change the evils in the world, to make the world a better place.
>Many Christians have done that. But there are still those who
>would act in ways in the hope of preventing the Christian gospel
>being given.
>Acts 8 : 28 And we know that all things work together for God
>to those who love God, to them that are called according to His
>purpose.
>Gladys Swager
the words of a Mullah ratherthan the Gospel. Clearly, those who now
have most influence in this country are people with no love for Jesus
Christ, or the Holy Bible.
There are some things God does not forgive!
Mark 3:22-29 "he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has
forgiveness, but is subject to eternal? condemnation;
Matthew 12:31-32 "but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be
forgiven men." "whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be
forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come"
John 14:6 "Jesus said to him, 'I am the way, the truth, and the life.
No one comes to the Father but through Me."
--
Petzl
What perfect set of circumstances placed our Sun a Celestial ball of fire at just the correct distance from our little blue planet for life to evolve?
All simply conicidence? The very fact we exist is nothing but the result of a complex yet inevitable string of chemical accidents and biological mutations?
There is no Grand meaning; There is no purpose
Barry OGrady
Feb 17, 2012, 9:19:48 PM2/17/12
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 12:55:34 +1100, Petzl <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:59:05 -0800 (PST), Gladys Swager
><gsw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> You missed out on the teachings of Jesus recorded
>>> in Matthew 10:34
>>> Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
>>> peace, but a sword.
>>>
>>Ephesians 6 : 13, 17 Wherefore take unto the whole armour of God,
>>that you might be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done
>>all,
>>to stand....and take the helmet of salvation,
>>and the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God.
>>
>>Jesus was speaking metaphorically, as He often did.
>>Jesus came to empower those who chose to be His disciples
>>to change the evils in the world, to make the world a better place.
>>Many Christians have done that. But there are still those who
>>would act in ways in the hope of preventing the Christian gospel
>>being given.
>>Acts 8 : 28 And we know that all things work together for God
>>to those who love God, to them that are called according to His
>>purpose.
>>Gladys Swager
>
>These anti-creationist people would rather interpret the Gospel though
>the words of a Mullah ratherthan the Gospel.
They are not so much anti-creationist as anti lies and deception.
>On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:59:05 -0800 (PST), Gladys Swager
><gsw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> You missed out on the teachings of Jesus recorded
>>> in Matthew 10:34
>>> Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
>>> peace, but a sword.
>>>
>>Ephesians 6 : 13, 17 Wherefore take unto the whole armour of God,
>>that you might be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done
>>all,
>>to stand....and take the helmet of salvation,
>>and the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God.
>>
>>Jesus was speaking metaphorically, as He often did.
>>Jesus came to empower those who chose to be His disciples
>>to change the evils in the world, to make the world a better place.
>>Many Christians have done that. But there are still those who
>>would act in ways in the hope of preventing the Christian gospel
>>being given.
>>Acts 8 : 28 And we know that all things work together for God
>>to those who love God, to them that are called according to His
>>purpose.
>>Gladys Swager
>
>These anti-creationist people would rather interpret the Gospel though
>the words of a Mullah ratherthan the Gospel.
>Clearly, those who now
>have most influence in this country are people with no love for Jesus
>Christ, or the Holy Bible.
or the bible.
>There are some things God does not forgive!
I can't forgive a deity that refuses to use its power to make
everything good for us.
I can't forgive a deity that allows so much hate and confusion
in its name.
>Mark 3:22-29 "he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has
>forgiveness, but is subject to eternal? condemnation;
I see many Christians saying terrible things about God.
>Matthew 12:31-32 "but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be
>forgiven men." "whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be
>forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come"
>
>John 14:6 "Jesus said to him, 'I am the way, the truth, and the life.
>No one comes to the Father but through Me."
Jesus is doomed!
>--
>Petzl
What perfect set of circumstances allowed a magical yet undetectable
creator God to exist?
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