Re: There is NO "seperation" in any dictionary

[Wisely Non-Theist]

In article <ltpvp8hod08c1behn...@4ax.com>,
Brother Love <BrotherLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> There is no seperation of Church and State in the Constitution, lier.

"Brother Love" again reveals his profound ignorance in typing both
"separation" and "lier", neither spelling appearing in any standard
dictionary.

[Christopher A. Lee]

On Fri, 24 May 2013 17:33:04 -0600, Wisely Non-Theist <a...@bbb.ccc>
wrote:

It's Zacky and it's deliberate.

[Devils Advocaat]

On 24 May, 23:21, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 24 May 2013 13:10:32 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
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> >Outrageous Attacks on Supporters of Church-State Separation: Death Thu May 23, 2013 4:27 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Zepp Jamieson" the_zepphttp://www.alternet.org/belief/outrageous-attacks-supporters-church-s...
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> >Outrageous Attacks on Supporters of Church-State Separation: Death
> >Threats, Murdered Pets, and Vandalized Property
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> >/The religious right often wages campaigns of harassment, intimidation
> >and outright violence against First Amendment plaintiffs./
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> >http://www.alternet.org/files/styles/story_image/public/story_images/...
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> >/Photo Credit: JeremyWhat/ Shutterstock.com/
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> >When it comes to the Bill of Rights, the First Amendment, which forbids
> >the establishment of a state religion by the government even if a
> >majority supports it, is something most of us heartedly support.

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> There is no seperation of Church and State in the Constitution, lier.

> (Although there was in the Soviet constitution).  All it says is that
> Congress will not favor one religion over the other.
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> The Founding Fathers of this country were all Christians, e.g. Thomas
> Jefferson, Thomas Paine, and George Washington. Never would they of
> wrote in the Bill of Rights anything about so-called "seperation of
> Church and State". No wonder you athiests make me sick.
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> Doctor Love, DC, ND, MRT
> Chiropractic Physician
> Doctor of Homeopathy
> Master of Reiki Therapy
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> Always remember: Jesus love's you and so do I!
> Yes! Each and every one of you!

Poor you, some of those founding fathers were deists.

[Uncle Vic]

Brother Love <BrotherLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:ltpvp8hod08c1behn...@4ax.com:

> On Fri, 24 May 2013 13:10:32 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
> <hypa...@comcast.net> wrote:
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>>Outrageous Attacks on Supporters of Church-State Separation: Death Thu
>>May 23, 2013 4:27 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Zepp Jamieson" the_zepp

>>http://www.alternet.org/belief/outrageous-attacks-supporters-church-sta
>>te-separation-death-threats-murdered-pets-and?akid=10456.260753.buXpJG&
>>rd=1&src=newsletter842428&t=5&paging=off

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>>Outrageous Attacks on Supporters of Church-State Separation: Death
>>Threats, Murdered Pets, and Vandalized Property
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>>/The religious right often wages campaigns of harassment, intimidation
>>and outright violence against First Amendment plaintiffs./
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>>http://www.alternet.org/files/styles/story_image/public/story_images/sh
>>utterstock_96065306.jpg

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>>/Photo Credit: JeremyWhat/ Shutterstock.com/
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>>/May 6, 2013 / |
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>>When it comes to the Bill of Rights, the First Amendment, which
>>forbids the establishment of a state religion by the government even
>>if a majority supports it, is something most of us heartedly support.
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> There is no seperation of Church and State in the Constitution, lier.
> (Although there was in the Soviet constitution). All it says is that
> Congress will not favor one religion over the other.
>
> The Founding Fathers of this country were all Christians, e.g. Thomas
> Jefferson, Thomas Paine, and George Washington. Never would they of
> wrote in the Bill of Rights anything about so-called "seperation of
> Church and State". No wonder you athiests make me sick.
>

You're almost there Zach! Add a few random Capitolizations, maybe some
ALLCAPS to drill that point home. Love the grammar in the second
paragraph. Nice touch!


--
Uncle Vic
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[Devils Advocaat]

On 25 May, 03:13, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 24 May 2013 18:52:38 -0700 (PDT), Devils Advocaat

> Yes, and as such, they believe in Jesus & were Christians.
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They reject revelation and religious dogma, acknowledging only that
some sort of god created everything. They also reject the idea that
the creator god interferes with the universe, or that miracles are
real, and they certainly don't believe in the absurd notion that the
alleged Jesus existed, or even if he did exist, that there was no
divinity in Jesus.

[Virgil]

In article <9i70q8dq44gb29b1b...@4ax.com>,

Brother Love <BrotherLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >Poor you, some of those founding fathers were deists.
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> Yes, and as such, they believe in Jesus & were Christians.

They may well have believed in Jesus as a person, but not as a god, and
they were certainly not all Christian by any modern standard of
Christianity.

That BroLuv does not accept the parts of history that are properly
evidenced does not mean that he can impose on us the parts that are not.
--

[Devils Advocaat]

On 25 May, 18:04, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 24 May 2013 21:26:26 -0700 (PDT), Devils Advocaat

> Well at least Thomas Paine was a Christian.

So you've gone from "all" to just the one.

A significant shifting of goalposts.

> Ever read The Age of
> Reason?

Ever lived in the age of reason?

[August Rode]

On Saturday, May 25, 2013 5:12:16 PM UTC-4, Brother Love wrote:
> On Sat, 25 May 2013 12:32:54 -0700 (PDT), Devils Advocaat
> <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

> >> Ever read The Age of
> >> Reason?
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> >Ever lived in the age of reason?
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> Thank's for admitting that you never read Thomas Paine's Age of
> Reason, which is one of the greatest Christian works of all time.

It is?

"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church." -- Thomas Paine, _The Age of Reason_

"As to the Christian system of faith, it appears to me as a species of atheism; a sort of religious denial of God. It professes to believe in a man rather than in God. It is a compound made up chiefly of man-ism with but little deism, and is as near to atheism as twilight is to darkness. It introduces between man and his Maker an opaque body, which it calls a redeemer, as the moon introduces her opaque self between the earth and the sun, and it produces by this means a religious or an irreligious eclipse of light. It has put the whole orbit of reason into shade." - Thomas Paine, _The Age of Reason_

Are you *sure* you've read it?

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <jnr1q8die6nr469et...@4ax.com>,
Brother Love <BrotherLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Well at least Thomas Paine was a Christian.

Wrong. He was a Deist.

--

JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

[Dakota]

I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the
Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the

Protestant Church, nor by any Church that I know of. My own mind is
my own Church. Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief;
and for my own part, I disbelieve them all. All national institutions
of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no
other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind,
and monopolize power and profit.- Thomas Paine

http://www.ushistory.org/paine/reason/reason1.htm

[Bill Steele]

In article <u7a2q8p8rnglpta5a...@4ax.com>,
Brother Love <BrotherLo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Haven't read The Age of Reason AND don';t know the definition of Deist...

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> >> >They reject revelation and religious dogma, acknowledging only that
> >> >some sort of god created everything. They also reject the idea that
> >> >the creator god interferes with the universe, or that miracles are
> >> >real, and they certainly don't believe in the absurd notion that the
> >> >alleged Jesus existed, or even if he did exist, that there was no
> >> >divinity in Jesus.
> >>
> >> Well at least Thomas Paine was a Christian.
> >
> >So you've gone from "all" to just the one.
> >
> >A significant shifting of goalposts.
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> >> Ever read The Age of
> >> Reason?
> >
> >Ever lived in the age of reason?
> >>
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> Thank's for admitting that you never read Thomas Paine's Age of
> Reason, which is one of the greatest Christian works of all time.
>

[jwshe...@satx.rr.com]

The Two Tables of the Law

Published in the May/June 2005 Magazine
by Alan J. Reinach

For centuries Protestants have found a convenient division between the
first and second tables of the ten-commandment law. Roger Williams,
the founder of Rhode Island, was the first American to associate two
concepts: the separation of church and state and the two tables of the
law. It was Williams, not Thomas Jefferson, who coined the phrase
about a hedge, or wall, separating the garden of the church from the
wilderness of the state.


Williams also conceived that the first four commandments, or the first
table of the law, addressed one's obligations to worship God, while
the last six commandments, the second table, addressed one's civil
obligations. The American Protestant concept of separation of church
and state was largely built on this distinction. Thus state law could
properly address moral issues such as adultery, stealing, and murder
because these were in the second table of the law.

However, Puritan era "first table" laws against blasphemy, idolatry,
and even Sunday laws fell into disfavor, not merely because of secular
trends, but because in the Protestant conception, these obligations
pertained not to the state but to God alone.

This division between the first and second tables of the law roughly
corresponds to the distinction between legislating religion and
morality. Under the First Amendment, the state has not jurisdiction to
address essentially religious questions, such as when, where, how, or
whom to worship. The first table of the law is out of bounds to the
state. However, the second table of the law has always been the
subject of civil law, despite the familiar adage that "you can't
legislate morality." Actually, you can, and we do. The debate is never
really about whether to legislate morality, but to what extent and
from what source.

Under the American constitutional system, the state has no charge to
order public morality according to the second table of the ten-
commandment law, but neither is the state compelled to reject the
second table. It is entirely legitimate for Americans to invoke the
commandments in public policy debate, so long as the distinction
between the first and second tables is observed. The Constitution does
not permit the state to arbitrate religious belief and practice or to
promote specific religious ideas. This means that the same Ten
Commandments that many Americans look to for the content of public
morality may be subject to constitutional restrictions when it comes
to state efforts to publicly display and honor them. Although many
view restricting the display of the commandments as official
disrespect, it is far better for government to maintain a strict
"hands-off" policy with respect to religion than to open a Pandora's
box of public promotion of religion.
____________
Alan J. Reinach serves as vice-president of the North American
Religious Liberty Association West, which has published "Written in
the Heart," a guide and poster regarding the Ten Commandments,
available at www.religiousliberty.info.

http://www.libertymagazine.org/article/the-two-tables-of-the-law

[Tshepa Thapelo]

On May 25, 1:04 pm, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Fri, 24 May 2013 21:26:26 -0700 (PDT), Devils Advocaat

> Well at least Thomas Paine was a Christian. Ever read The Age of
> Reason?

No, he was not. His Common Sense is nothing but an anti-christian
stunt...
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There is no God but Jesus and Africa is in His plan

[Tshepa Thapelo]

> and monopolize power and profit.- Thomas Paine.

HE WAS CONFUSED AS WELL ON THE DEFINITION OF "CHURCH."
So much for his high learning.

[Devils Advocaat]

On 25 May, 22:12, Brother Love <BrotherLove4TheL...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 25 May 2013 12:32:54 -0700 (PDT), Devils Advocaat

Did you miss the above or deliberately ignore it?

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> >> Ever read The Age of
> >> Reason?
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> >Ever lived in the age of reason?
>

> Thank's for admitting that you never read Thomas Paine's Age of
> Reason, which is one of the greatest Christian works of all time.

So where's the problem in not having read it?

Do you actually recall the words of Thomas Paine in the opening pages
of this book's first part?