Recovey to recover
Joe Zeff
Worrisome, but not urgent. If it didn't go away, I was going to see
the doctor. Last night, about 3 AM, I woke up with a severe pain in
my right side that was still there this morning. I called in sick,
called the doctor and got an appointment for later in the morning.
I have a kidney stone. It's probably in the urethra now, working its
way through. The pain gets worse and better, but doesn't go away.
I'm to stay away from work until the stone comes out, especially as I
have a prescription for Vicodim if the pain gets bad. Plenty of
fluids, including cranberry juice and other diuretics are also
indicated. There may be an infection, but my sample has to be
cultured to be sure.
Naturally, I'm keeping ork informed. My $BOSS is a PHB in many
things, but she's good about sick time and so on. All I can do is
wait, in the knowledge that this too shall pass.
--
Joe Zeff
The Guy With the Sideburns
Things are always darkest just before they turn on the lights.
http://www.lasfs.org http://home.earthlink.net/~sidebrnz
Mike Andrews
: A few days ago, my urine started getting dark, almost brown.
: Worrisome, but not urgent. If it didn't go away, I was going to see
: the doctor. Last night, about 3 AM, I woke up with a severe pain in
: my right side that was still there this morning. I called in sick,
: called the doctor and got an appointment for later in the morning.
: I have a kidney stone. It's probably in the urethra now, working its
: way through. The pain gets worse and better, but doesn't go away.
: I'm to stay away from work until the stone comes out, especially as I
: have a prescription for Vicodim if the pain gets bad. Plenty of
: fluids, including cranberry juice and other diuretics are also
: indicated. There may be an infection, but my sample has to be
: cultured to be sure.
: Naturally, I'm keeping ork informed. My $BOSS is a PHB in many
: things, but she's good about sick time and so on. All I can do is
: wait, in the knowledge that this too shall pass.
Joe,
Voice Of Experience.
Push fluids right up to the point of inducing electrolyte
imbalance. Back off _just_ _the_ _least_ _bit_ on the fluids.
Stay there the rest of your life.
Pee through a strainer or sieve, so as to catch the stone. Save
it for the doc. It's important to know what it's made of. If it's
uric acid, you'll need to do one set of things; if it's calcium
apatite (or apatite or oxalate or whatnot), you'll need to do a
different set of things.
If your kidney starts hurting again, go to the doc or the ER,
modulo the time of day.
Be careful. Take it easy on yourself. Have someone available in
case you're incapacitated by the pain.
BTDTGTTS -- and the scar.
--
"And now the traveler's weather report from Luna: Dayside will be
hot, dry, and clear. Nightside will be cold, dry and clear.
Please dress accordingly."
-- Danny Sichel, in rasfw
st...@madcelt.org
> A few days ago, my urine started getting dark, almost brown.
> Worrisome, but not urgent. If it didn't go away, I was going to see
> the doctor. Last night, about 3 AM, I woke up with a severe pain in
> my right side that was still there this morning. I called in sick,
> called the doctor and got an appointment for later in the morning.
> I have a kidney stone. It's probably in the urethra now, working its
> way through. The pain gets worse and better, but doesn't go away.
> I'm to stay away from work until the stone comes out, especially as I
> have a prescription for Vicodim if the pain gets bad. Plenty of
> fluids, including cranberry juice and other diuretics are also
> indicated. There may be an infection, but my sample has to be
> cultured to be sure.
You poor Bastard. Given a choice of going through the pain of passing
a stone, or drinking cranberry juice, it would be a toss up[1].
I was at a party Friday night and saw someone drinking one of those
alcy-pops, Bacardi and Cranberry. Yee Great Horny Gods, people
actually pay money for that shit??
[1] Pun intended
--
Stevo st...@madcelt.org
Christian Biblical literalists are trusting themselves to an archaic English
translation of a Latin translation of (help me here) Greek? Aramaic? source.
I wouldn't even trust a VCR manual to make it through that intact. - Dr. Dee
Joe Zeff
wrote:
>Push fluids right up to the point of inducing electrolyte
>imbalance. Back off _just_ _the_ _least_ _bit_ on the fluids.
>Stay there the rest of your life.
>
>Pee through a strainer or sieve, so as to catch the stone. Save
>it for the doc.
Already doing both, although my fluid intake isn't quite as high as
you suggest. I know about keeping well hydrated, and usually try to.
I learned about it from Dan Alderson, who'd had a stone himself and
was almost always drinking something.
--
Joe Zeff
The Guy With the Sideburns
The purpose of the Law is to proved Darwin wrong.
http://www.lasfs.org http://home.earthlink.net/~sidebrnz
Joe Zeff
>
>You poor Bastard. Given a choice of going through the pain of passing
>a stone, or drinking cranberry juice, it would be a toss up[1].
I'm one of those people who like it. Granted, the claim that helps
with bladder infections is an UL, it does keep you hydrated and acts
as a kidney stimulant.
[1]NMF
--
Joe Zeff
The Guy With the Sideburns
The light at the end of the tunnel is the explosives around
that little ball of Pu239.
http://www.lasfs.org http://home.earthlink.net/~sidebrnz
Suresh Ramasubramanian
> You poor Bastard. Given a choice of going through the pain of passing
> a stone, or drinking cranberry juice, it would be a toss up[1].
Now just how and why does my mp3 player know to start playing "Zombie" by the
Cranberries when I'm reading this article?
Yeah, it is psychic, that's the ticket. I'd better get my head examined before
I start seeing pink elephants telling me how to compile kernels.
Likely that's happened already. I've been getting nightmares about $things at
$ork, soon as I close my eyes and try to get some sleep (at 6 AM in the morning
after an all-nighter). Now I *know* it is time to take a longish weekend off.
-srs
Jack Twilley
[... cranberry juice ...]
Joe> I'm one of those people who like it. Granted, the claim that
Joe> helps with bladder infections is an UL, it does keep you hydrated
Joe> and acts as a kidney stimulant.
I'm not convinced that it's an urban legend, or at least that it's got
zero effect on bladder infections. Someone I used to date majored in
pharmacognosy and was doing a thesis on this very topic -- perhaps I
should look her up and see if she's finished.
ObASR: It's been difficult enough to find a job in the field. So far
the only interview I've had was for "bookstore manager", and the pay is
a bit less than I've gotten any time in the past decade as a
sysadmin. However, the mother of SWMBO works for the sheriff's
department, and is encouraging me to apply for dispatcher...
... or even deputy.
Jack.
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jmt at twilley dot org
http colon slash slash www dot twilley dot org slash tilde jmt slash
Maarten Wiltink
<6KZ58.17432$Xg1.248...@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>...
[...]
>Push fluids right up to the point of inducing electrolyte
>imbalance. Back off _just_ _the_ _least_ _bit_ on the fluids.
How much would that be? (Metric please, we're European.)
Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink
Arvid Grøtting
Actually, metric bits and imperialistic bits are the same. However,
we europeans tend to subdivide bits into millibits[1], while americans
tend to use 3/32 bit and so on when subdividing.
[1] as in "mb/s".
--
Arvid
BTW: What's the recommended pinout for a 400V TP etherkiller?
Maarten Wiltink
>On 31 Jan 2002 00:40:44 GMT,
>st...@madcelt.org <st...@madcelt.org> wrote:
>
>:You poor Bastard. Given a choice of going through the pain of passing
>:a stone, or drinking cranberry juice, it would be a toss up[1].
>
>
Is that a Red Russian?
<bit about sxxy deth chyx deleted as self-important and uninteresting>
Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink
Bogdan Iamandei [ROT13]
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 21:29:57 GMT,
> Joe Zeff <the.guy.with....@lasfs.org> wrote:
>
>:I have a kidney stone. It's probably in the urethra now, working its
>:way through. The pain gets worse and better, but doesn't go away.
>
>
Why did I parsed it as "pipettes and hamsters"?
Ino!~ (I'll get my coat now!)
--
I have seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire
off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark
near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time,
like tears in rain. Time to die.
Maarten Wiltink
>In article <slrna5ib...@aspc083.longword.dyndns.org>, Red Drag Diva
wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 21:29:57 GMT,
>> Joe Zeff <the.guy.with....@lasfs.org> wrote:
>>
>>:I have a kidney stone. It's probably in the urethra now, working its
>>:way through. The pain gets worse and better, but doesn't go away.
>>
>>
>> Why am I picturing pipettes and hammers?
>
>Why did I parsed it as "pipettes and hamsters"?
>
> Ino!~ (I'll get my coat now!)
"The rad-and-black one, with the four pips on the collar."
Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink
David P. Murphy
> ObASR: It's been difficult enough to find a job in the field. So far
> the only interview I've had was for "bookstore manager", and the pay is
> a bit less than I've gotten any time in the past decade as a
> sysadmin. However, the mother of SWMBO works for the sheriff's
> department, and is encouraging me to apply for dispatcher...
> ... or even deputy.
Haven't you ever wondered what it must be like to strap on a gun,
pin on a badge, and become..... A LAWMAN?
ok
dpm
--
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systems programmer ftp://ftp.myths.com
mailto:d...@myths.com (personal)
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Felix Deutsch
> Haven't you ever wondered what it must be like to strap on a gun,
> pin on a badge, and become..... A LAWMAN?
Have you ever wondered what it must be like to bend over, pin on a
"KICK ME!1" sign, and become..... A LANMAN?
Mine's the black one with PSYCHO SERVICE CO.LTD stiched on the left,
front, thanks.
Felix
Robert A. Uhl
>
> I'm not too keen on cranberry juice, but cranberries eaten straight
> from the shrubthingy they grow on, walking along on the fens down
> south of Stockholm in warm sunshine *is* a very pleasant memory and a
> memory of a pleasing taste.
Sure those were cranberries? I've always thought a) they're a New
World plant and b) they're well-nigh inedible raw. BICBW.
--
Robert Uhl <ru...@4dv.net>
A Democracy: Three wolves and a sheep voting on dinner.
A Republic: The flock gets to vote for which wolves vote on dinner.
A Constitutional Republic: Voting on dinner is expressly forbidden, and
the sheep are armed.
--Anonymous
Suresh Ramasubramanian
> Jack Twilley <jmt+u...@twilley.org> wrote:
> > ... or even deputy.
>
> Haven't you ever wondered what it must be like to strap on a gun,
> pin on a badge, and become..... A LAWMAN?
Well, you can at least tote a handcannon sized .44 magnum and go around asking
punks to go ahead and make your day ...
-srs
Mike Andrews
: There's a scandalous rumor that st...@madcelt.org wrote:
:>
:>You poor Bastard. Given a choice of going through the pain of passing
:>a stone, or drinking cranberry juice, it would be a toss up[1].
: I'm one of those people who like it. Granted, the claim that helps
: with bladder infections is an UL, it does keep you hydrated and acts
: as a kidney stimulant.
There's a difference between drinking "cranberry joice drink" and
drinking _cranberry_juice_. Multiple diffs, actually. First is
that cranberry juice is well-nigh undrinkable, but does move the
urine pH whichever way it needs to go to fight bacterial growth.
Second is that that anyone motivated enough to actually choke the
joice down is motivated enough to do the other things needed to
fight stone growth.
--
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: [ with light yellow enamel and black and red engraving, with a hemi- ]
: \ cylindrical Lucite cursor on each side." -- Mike Andrews, winning a DSW /
-- A de B, quoting me out wildly OOC.
Suresh Ramasubramanian
> There's a difference between drinking "cranberry joice drink" and
> drinking _cranberry_juice_. Multiple diffs, actually. First is
> that cranberry juice is well-nigh undrinkable, but does move the
... and gooseberry juice - and worse, bitter gourd juice.
-srs
Joe Zeff
wrote:
>Pee through a strainer or sieve, so as to catch the stone.
Caught it last night. It's about the size of a grain of sand. No
more blood and only a little residual ache. I should be orking again
tomorrow.
--
Joe Zeff
The Guy With the Sideburns
I'm a pessimist, not a masochist.
http://www.lasfs.org http://home.earthlink.net/~sidebrnz
Joe Zeff
<maa...@kittensandcats.net> wrote:
I went through two quarts of Cranberry Juice coctail -- 1.89 liters
yesterday, not counting other fluids.
--
Joe Zeff
The Guy With the Sideburns
If you want to do this, the best way is in the nude,
sitting in the bathtub.
http://www.lasfs.org http://home.earthlink.net/~sidebrnz
Marc Haber
>3 litres of water per day are recommended, IIRC...
I easily drink that much. Probably the only healthy thing I do.
Greetings
Marc
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Patrick R. Wade
>In article <87k7tz5...@gruk.tech.ensign.ftech.net>, Ingvar the Grey wrote:
>>
>> I'm not too keen on cranberry juice, but cranberries eaten straight
>> from the shrubthingy they grow on, walking along on the fens down
>> south of Stockholm in warm sunshine *is* a very pleasant memory and a
>> memory of a pleasing taste.
>
>Sure those were cranberries? I've always thought a) they're a New
>World plant and b) they're well-nigh inedible raw. BICBW.
>
Western hemisphere plants have occasionally been imported to the Eastern
Hemisphere, e.g. the (cough) potato...
--
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without a house, without anything except a girlfriend and a knowledge of
UNIX." "Well, that's something," Avi says. "Normally those two are
mutually exclusive." --Neal Stephenson, "Cryptonomicon"
jgut...@brokersys.com
> There's a scandalous rumor that mi...@mikea.ath.cx (Mike Andrews)
> wrote:
>>Pee through a strainer or sieve, so as to catch the stone.
> Caught it last night. It's about the size of a grain of sand. No
> more blood and only a little residual ache. I should be orking again
> tomorrow.
My stone was around 1.4mm in its longest dimension. It hung up before
it got to the bladder and they had to go in after it. (Fortunately,
they didn't have to make an incision, which is a lot more trouble than
what they DID do.) After that episode, I passed a great deal of blood
and considerable amounts of air, which was itself an interesting
experience.
FWIW, I knew from the symptoms what you likely had. I'm sorry you had
to find out what it was like.
--
Jonathan Guthrie (jgut...@brokersys.com)
Sto pro veritate
Dan Holdsworth
<jmt+u...@twilley.org>
>>>>>> "Joe" == Joe Zeff <the.guy.with....@lasfs.org> writes:
>
>[... cranberry juice ...]
>
>Joe> I'm one of those people who like it. Granted, the claim that
>Joe> helps with bladder infections is an UL, it does keep you hydrated
>Joe> and acts as a kidney stimulant.
>
>I'm not convinced that it's an urban legend, or at least that it's got
>zero effect on bladder infections. Someone I used to date majored in
>pharmacognosy and was doing a thesis on this very topic -- perhaps I
>should look her up and see if she's finished.
It is not an UL.
Cranberry juice has no anti-bacterial effect per se, but it does interfere
with the ability of bacteria to stick to the bladder wall. Quite how I
don't know [1] but there is definitely some sort of effect there.
[1] Most likely, there's something in the juice that either competes for a
binding site on the bladder wall or on the chemicals bacteria use to
attach to the bladder wall.
--
Dan Holdsworth PhD da...@supanet.com
By caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, By the beans of Java
do thoughts acquire speed, hands acquire shaking, the shaking
becomes a warning, By caffeine alone do I set my mind in motion
Kevin Martin
> ... and gooseberry juice - and worse, bitter gourd juice.
Don't know about the latter, but "gooseberry" brings back childhood
memories. They grew wild back in .in.us and made for some very interesting
pies. Tart but tasty. Yum. (Still trying to get the old persimmon
pudding recipe from my sister -- that's ambrosial.)
Dan Birchall
> In article <87k7tz5...@gruk.tech.ensign.ftech.net>, Ingvar the Grey wrote:
> >
> > I'm not too keen on cranberry juice, but cranberries eaten straight
> > from the shrubthingy they grow on, walking along on the fens down
> > south of Stockholm in warm sunshine *is* a very pleasant memory and a
> > memory of a pleasing taste.
>
> Sure those were cranberries? I've always thought a) they're a New
> World plant and b) they're well-nigh inedible raw. BICBW.
Mebbe those were Lingonberries, like in the products at the little
food shop in IKEA. And yeah, having grown up in one of the top 3
or so cranberry producing areas of .us, I don't really think you'd
like cranberries straight from the shrub (especially since back
home, we tend to flood the growing area for harvesting, so you'd
get quite wet as well as having a nasty taste in your mouth).
Encouraging manglement to try it as part of a "back-to-nature
team-building exercise," on the other hand, would be a good thing.
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Earl Grey
> There's a difference between drinking "cranberry joice drink" and
> drinking _cranberry_juice_. Multiple diffs, actually. First is
> that cranberry juice is well-nigh undrinkable, ...
Huh?
Can't stand beer.
But can drink Ocean Spray Cranberry Juice forever.
Must be my taste buds.
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assortment of supremely horrible and painful ways! Exciting, Isn't It?!
Maarten Wiltink
>Maarten Wiltink <maa...@kittensandcats.net> wrote:
>:Red Drag Diva wrote in message ...
>:>Cosmopolitans: vodka, cranberry, cointreau and lime.
>:Is that a Red Russian?
>No idea. Never heard that name for it before.
It's probably a bit off anyway. From memory, a White Russian
is Cointreau and vodka; a Black Russian is Tia Maria and vodka.
A proper Red Russian should probably involve some sweet liquor
that's red by itself, instead of just adding red to a White
Russian.
More trolling for recipes.
>:<bit about sxxy deth chyx deleted as self-important and uninteresting>
>I mention it because I learnt about it from a gaggle of them.
What, backing off? Lose 2 Bastard points. Most likely, the sxxy
deth chyx are self-important and uninteresting rather than you.
Sour cranberries are probably involved, too; anything female
ignored me until I was, oh, twenty-one or so.
Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink
Maarten Wiltink
<87g04l4...@gruk.tech.ensign.ftech.net>...
>Erm. No. Trust me. I *can* tell the difference between "same shape
>berry, different shape shrub". And lingonberries prefer drier growing
>conditions.
Initially parsed, of course, as Klingonberries.
Did you know that the application to include the Klingon script
in Unicode was rejected? Tengwar are still under consideration.
Monday I start my new job with a company that dabbles in XML,
and after several months of good intentions I finally got around
to reading new-job-related things (the UTF-8/Unicode FAQ) instead
of ASR and playing around with Delphi.
Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink
Mike Andrews
: Mike Andrews wrote:
:> There's a difference between drinking "cranberry joice drink" and
:> drinking _cranberry_juice_. Multiple diffs, actually. First is
:> that cranberry juice is well-nigh undrinkable, ...
: Huh?
: Can't stand beer.
: But can drink Ocean Spray Cranberry Juice forever.
: Must be my taste buds.
Real, pure, 100%, no additives _cranberry juice_, such as you'd
get if you squoze a bunch of cranberries yuorself?
Ack! Ththththpht! Undrinkable! I tried. Honest to $DEITY, I did.
--
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fame was that he was elected bishop of York but his election was nullified
by the archbishop of Canterbury. In other words, we have the perfect patron
of disputed elections. -- Arval d'Espas Nord, in rec.org.sca
Robert A. Uhl
>
> It's probably a bit off anyway. From memory, a White Russian
> is Cointreau and vodka; a Black Russian is Tia Maria and vodka.
In this country (good ol' USA), or at least everywhere I've been in
it, a White Russian is Kahlua, cream and vodka. This was the original
drink. A Black Russian is Kahlua and vodka.
Something I learned in college is that Kahlua can be convincingly
stretched with white rum. One can go about 3:1 and still maintain
every ounce of the Kahlua flavour.
> Sour cranberries are probably involved, too; anything female
> ignored me until I was, oh, twenty-one or so.
Heck, they still ignore me. Sigh.
--
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Subtlety: the art of saying what you want to say and getting out of
range before it is understood.
Marc Haber
>Marc Haber <mh+use...@zugschlus.de> wrote in
>news:a3cbh7$n1b$1...@q.bofh.de:
>> Juergen Nieveler <juergen....@web.de> wrote:
>>>3 litres of water per day are recommended, IIRC...
>>
>> I easily drink that much. Probably the only healthy thing I do.
>
Coca Cola. Ice Tea. When I'm desperate, water.
Suresh Ramasubramanian
> Juergen Nieveler <juergen....@web.de> wrote:
> >Marc Haber <mh+use...@zugschlus.de> wrote in
> >news:a3cbh7$n1b$1...@q.bofh.de:
> >> Juergen Nieveler <juergen....@web.de> wrote:
> >>>3 litres of water per day are recommended, IIRC...
> >>
> >> I easily drink that much. Probably the only healthy thing I do.
> >
> >Alcohol and coffee don't count, AFAIK
>
> Coca Cola. Ice Tea. When I'm desperate, water.
Fresh fruit juice - and plenty of it.
-srs
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
In <d6cj5ug2lbj49envt...@4ax.com>, on 01/31/2002
at 09:03 PM, Joe Zeff <the.guy.with....@lasfs.org> said:
>Caught it last night. It's about the size of a grain of sand. No
>more blood and only a little residual ache. I should be orking again
>tomorrow.
Great. But listen to whatever your doctor tells you to do. Just
because you feel ready to go back to ork doesn't guaranty that you
really are.
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Jamie Bowden
> It is said by some that Mike Andrews once wrote:
> > Real, pure, 100%, no additives _cranberry juice_, such as you'd
> > get if you squoze a bunch of cranberries yuorself?
> > Ack! Ththththpht! Undrinkable! I tried. Honest to $DEITY, I did.
> Sez you. I was very happy when Ocean Spray started shipping their
> non-sweetened 100% cranberry juice (as opposed to that nasty corn-
> syrup cranberry juice cocktail). I'd prefer all of my juices to
> be non-sweetened, but the American Public apparently doesn't agree.
I like grape juice. You know how hard it is to grape juice that doesn't
have apple (which I don't like) added to it? There's Welch's 100%, but
it's only available in large sizes or frozen, which is inconvenient to
take to work. All the boxed grape juices (Welch's included) add apple.
Jamie Bowden
--
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Iain Bowen <ala...@alaric.org.uk>
Earl Grey
> Real, pure, 100%, no additives _cranberry juice_, such as you'd
> get if you squoze a bunch of cranberries yuorself?
Umh, no.
The can lists the contents (in order of %) as:
High Fructose Corn Syrup (aka, "LIQUID SUGAR!")
Cranberry Juice
Cranberry Juice Concentrate
Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C)
> Ack! Ththththpht! Undrinkable! I tried. Honest to $DEITY, I did.
It's available for sale somewhere?
Methinks we can all agree that cranberries, without something to deal
with the taste, are unconsumable. But with enough sugar, all is well!
Earl Grey
> I like grape juice. You know how hard it is to grape juice that doesn't
> have apple (which I don't like) added to it? There's Welch's 100%, but
> it's only available in large sizes or frozen, which is inconvenient to
> take to work. All the boxed grape juices (Welch's included) add apple.
Is that the "Concorde" stuff?
It also came in a liquid concentrate (unfrozen) of late.
They removed it from the shelves at the local FoodLand.
I bitched.
Much.
To no avail.
I'm PISSED!
Jasper Janssen
>Push fluids right up to the point of inducing electrolyte
>imbalance. Back off _just_ _the_ _least_ _bit_ on the fluids.
>Stay there the rest of your life.
When do you know you have elektrolyte imbalance? I mean, when I slurp a
couple of 1.5 liter mineral waters over the course of a few hours, I
suspect that's getting close... Certainly flushes the bladder.
Jasper
Rob Adams
>On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Derick Siddoway wrote:
>
>> Sez you. I was very happy when Ocean Spray started shipping their
>> non-sweetened 100% cranberry juice (as opposed to that nasty corn-
>> syrup cranberry juice cocktail). I'd prefer all of my juices to
>> be non-sweetened, but the American Public apparently doesn't agree.
>
>I like grape juice. You know how hard it is to grape juice that doesn't
>have apple (which I don't like) added to it? There's Welch's 100%, but
>it's only available in large sizes or frozen, which is inconvenient to
>take to work. All the boxed grape juices (Welch's included) add apple.
I too like grape juice, but only if its been put in an oak cask and
let sit for (ohh, say) 25 years or so.
Rob.
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Suresh Ramasubramanian
> Jamie Bowden <ja...@photon.com> wrote:
>
> >I like grape juice. You know how hard it is to grape juice that doesn't
> >have apple (which I don't like) added to it? There's Welch's 100%, but
> >it's only available in large sizes or frozen, which is inconvenient to
> >take to work. All the boxed grape juices (Welch's included) add apple.
>
> I too like grape juice, but only if its been put in an oak cask and
> let sit for (ohh, say) 25 years or so.
Any particular grape? The '77 should be a good vintage, as old as I am.
-srs
Jamie Bowden
> High Fructose Corn Syrup (aka, "LIQUID SUGAR!")
Heathen. High fructose corn syrup is fucking evil and only wishes it
tasted as good as the real stuff.
Lieven Marchand
> I like grape juice. You know how hard it is to grape juice that doesn't
> have apple (which I don't like) added to it? There's Welch's 100%, but
> it's only available in large sizes or frozen, which is inconvenient to
> take to work. All the boxed grape juices (Welch's included) add apple.
TWIAVBP. Around here, you can find grape juice in every
supermarket. It says muscated on the label, which means they added
sugar I believe, but no taste of apple.
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wrote:
>Juergen Nieveler <juergen....@web.de> wrote:
>>Marc Haber <mh+use...@zugschlus.de> wrote in
>>news:a3cbh7$n1b$1...@q.bofh.de:
>>> Juergen Nieveler <juergen....@web.de> wrote:
>>>>3 litres of water per day are recommended, IIRC...
>>>
>>> I easily drink that much. Probably the only healthy thing I do.
>>
>>Alcohol and coffee don't count, AFAIK
>
>Coca Cola. Ice Tea. When I'm desperate, water.
>
When I got kidney stones in college, the doctor analysed the passed stone & told
the condition had been caused by my consumption of Coca Cola. (IIRC, a couple
of the 16-ounce glass bottles a day.)
This might not be true, but it was several years before I dared to drink more
than a 12 ounce can in a day.
Geoff
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[Kidney stones, threat and menace]
: When I got kidney stones in college, the doctor analysed the passed stone & told
: the condition had been caused by my consumption of Coca Cola. (IIRC, a couple
: of the 16-ounce glass bottles a day.)
A couple of 16-ozers per day? Hell, I often consume that much in an hour.
==Jake
Thorsten Glaser
>dev...@hserus.net (Suresh Ramasubramanian) wrote in
>news:87n0yt2...@localhost.outblaze.com:
>
>> Fresh fruit juice - and plenty of it.
>
>Apple juice mixed with water...
Both, Kicos, Tönissteiner ACE (some fruit juice, too ;) also.
Much coffee at ork, also tea. And of course ice tea.
I prefer Pfanner's huge 2-litre packings because they're cheap.
Milk and cacao come to mind when it goes to the evening,
since I got a microwave oven sponsored by grandma.
maneo
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Robert A. Uhl
<Pine.SGI.4.10.102020...@dragon.wdc.photon.com>,
Jamie Bowden wrote:
>
> I like grape juice. You know how hard it is to grape juice that doesn't
> have apple (which I don't like) added to it? There's Welch's 100%, but
> it's only available in large sizes or frozen, which is inconvenient to
> take to work. All the boxed grape juices (Welch's included) add apple.
You might have better luck if you ask for grape juice which has gone a
bit off for a few years. It's really quite amazing what a few yeast,
some oak and a decade will do grape juice. And they only very rarely
add apple juice.
--
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--Flavio Carillo
David P. Murphy
Of the battery-acid-sold-as-soda? I drink 2.5 liters of Pepsi/day.
Never had any problems.
ok
dpm
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Shalom Septimus
wrote:
>I like grape juice. You know how hard it is to grape juice that doesn't
>have apple (which I don't like) added to it? There's Welch's 100%, but
>it's only available in large sizes or frozen, which is inconvenient to
>take to work. All the boxed grape juices (Welch's included) add apple.
Look for Kedem brand; comes in 2-liter, 1.5 liter long-neck, 32oz,
650ml, and 187ml. No sugar added, no apples anywhere (but beware the
peach-flavored variety. Ugh.). You'll probably find it in the kosher
aisle of your supermarket, next to the matzos that have been sitting
there since Noah's flood.
Only problem is that all these sizes except the largest are in glass
bottles, which are also inconvenient to lug around.
--
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kesi...@math.ttu.edu
: kesi...@math.ttu.edu wrote:
[Coca Cola]
:> A couple of 16-ozers per day? Hell, I often consume that much in an hour.
: Of the battery-acid-sold-as-soda? I drink 2.5 liters of Pepsi/day.
: Never had any problems.
Of whatever I can get my hands on. Coke, Pepsi, RC, generic and house
brands--whatever.[0][1]
One of the things I like about living in Texas is that soft drinks often
come in 3-liter sizes. 2-liter bottles seem so puny now.
==Jake
[0] With one exception--I won't drink the Dollar General store brand.
[1] I should point out that generic Dr. Pepper tastes a lot more like
real Dr. Pepper than generic Coke tastes like Coke.
s...@merritt.houston.tx.us
> Of whatever I can get my hands on. Coke, Pepsi, RC, generic
> and house brands--whatever.[0][1]
I buy almost exclusively HEB and Randalls store brands. HEB
is always $0.50/2L and Randalls has sales for $0.33/2L every
now and then. It might not taste quite the same, but with
real Coke typically close to a $1, I'll take the cheap stuff.
Sam
Alan J Rosenthal
>There's a scandalous rumor that Lionel <n...@alt.net> wrote:
>>Me, I wanted to be a LUMBERJACK!
>
>You want to work all day, sleep all night, go to the lavat'ry?
mmm... sleep...
Robert A. Uhl
<c1bq5uo5lqpeb7lm7...@news-east.giganews.com>, Shalom
Septimus wrote:
>
> Only problem is that all these sizes except the largest are in glass
> bottles, which are also inconvenient to lug around.
Yeah, but everything tastes better out of glass than out of aluminium
or plastic. So there's a tradeoff.
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least, it was World Standards Day in *some* countries. However, in
America, the celebrations were held on October 11th. In Finland,
World Standards Day was marked on October 13th. Italy planned a
separate conference on standards for October 18th. --Shakib Otaqui
Garrett Wollman
Robert A. Uhl <ru...@4dv.net> wrote:
>Yeah, but everything tastes better out of glass than out of aluminium
>or plastic. So there's a tradeoff.
What, you mean you *don't* like drinking sodium aluminum
ethylene-diamine tetracetate?[1] I'm shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you!
-GAWollman
[1] I'm not a food chemist, nor do I play one on TV, but that's my
recollection of what you get when you mix CaNa_2(en)(CH3COO)_4 with
Al^{+3} ions.... IIR the theory C, it's supposed to be insoluble when
heavier metals join the complex, and drop to the bottom of the
container. If it's juice or soda, though, you're likely to be
drinking the whole thing.
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Joachim Breuer
> In article <slrna5r6g...@latakia.dyndns.org>,
> Robert A. Uhl <ru...@4dv.net> wrote:
>
>>Yeah, but everything tastes better out of glass than out of aluminium
>>or plastic. So there's a tradeoff.
>
> What, you mean you *don't* like drinking sodium aluminum
> ethylene-diamine tetracetate?[1] I'm shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you!
Well, I don't. Used to wonder for years why sometimes juice (mostly
apple) that got offered to me (by relatives etc., that is I didn't get
to see the container) gave me a splitting headache, and sometimes it
didn't.
By now I figured out that foil/bag-type packaging will almost
certainly give me the spiked crank, while glass-bottled *usually*
doesn't. And those companies that apparently like to age their juice
with aluminium filings before bottling (sp?) I've learnt to
avoid. The hard way.
May this help someone else get more sleep than I got during the
finding-out period.
So long,
Joe
[1] NMF
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Omri Schwarz
> In article <c1bq5uo5lqpeb7lm7...@news-east.giganews.com>,
> Shalom Septimus wrote:
>
> > Look for Kedem brand; comes in 2-liter, 1.5 liter long-neck, 32oz,
> > 650ml, and 187ml. No sugar added, no apples anywhere (but beware the
>
> SesameStreet: "One of these things is not like the other."
>
> > peach-flavored variety. Ugh.). You'll probably find it in the kosher
> > aisle of your supermarket, next to the matzos that have been sitting
> > there since Noah's flood.
>
> So, matzos are the Jewish equivalent of Dwarf bread?
Well, Dwarf bread is supposed to *give* you lots
of energy.
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due to the presence of the patient." -- R.F. Farr
Patrick R. Wade
>
>So, matzos are the Jewish equivalent of Dwarf bread?
>
ISTR that one of the design requirements for dwarf bread is that it can be used
as a LART; most of the matzos i've encountered have been too crumbly for that.
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A friend of mine and I, while we were at a summer camp, realized that
the Lumberjack Song is structured just like many traditional campfire
songs (sing a verse, people sing it back to you and append chorus,
repeat). So we signed up to teach a new song at a campfire -- the
Lumberjack Song. Everyone else at the campfire was effectively the
Mountie chorus.
It even went approximately like the sketch, with everyone looking at
each other in doubt and becoming increasingly tentative during the later
verses.
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Logan Shaw
Joachim Breuer <jmbr...@gmx.net> wrote:
>Well, I don't. Used to wonder for years why sometimes juice (mostly
>apple) that got offered to me (by relatives etc., that is I didn't get
>to see the container) gave me a splitting headache, and sometimes it
>didn't.
Aha. So I _wasn't_ just imagining that when I was a kid. These days I
like apple juice, but it took years to get to the point because of the
pain I associated with it. Maybe one day I will actually want to eat
an apple. People keep acting as if they're really great, but I still
can't get myself to be interested in them. (Part of this has to do
with the texture.)
- Logan
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Logan Shaw
Shalom Septimus <drug...@pobox.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 20:38:02 -0500, Jamie Bowden <ja...@photon.com>
>wrote:
>>I like grape juice. You know how hard it is to grape juice that doesn't
>>have apple (which I don't like) added to it?
>
>650ml, and 187ml. No sugar added, no apples anywhere (but beware the
>peach-flavored variety. Ugh.).
OK, as long as we're on the subject, does anyone know where I can find
blackberry soda that does NOT have ground up chili peppers in it? (I
wasn't too crazy about the stuff that does have them in it.)
JoeB
dev...@hserus.net (Suresh Ramasubramanian) to type:
Slight thread drift...
Spent Christmas this year with SWMBO's family, over in France. During
large family Christmas meal #2, SWMBO's dad and his brother kept up a
near-constant flow of different wines, most of which were all rather
fine, except one, which was... spectacular.
As far as I can tell, the pre-food conversation between SWMBO's
father, and his mother (whose house it was) went something like this:
Dad: "Have you got any wine?"
Grandmere: <vaguely> "Oh, I think there's some in the cellar. Help
yourself."
Dad rummages for a while, emerging with three dust-encrusted bottles.
<prods at cork of first bottle> "Damn. That one's no use."
<ditto for second bottle.>
<third bottle> "Aha! We have a winner."
And so we were confronted by a bottle of Chateau Yqem Sauternes, 1964.
Which was, with bugger all ceremony, uncorked and drunk. Quite
astonishing it was too.
I expressed some trepidation about drinking it - surely it must be
worth a bit? SWMBO's dad replied to the effect that "The other two
bottles have gone off, there's no guarantee that this will be OK in a
year's time, and besides we might all get hit by a bus tomorrow."
Splendid man. Can't fault him.
mmmm.
JoeB
Jamie Bowden
> In article
> <Pine.SGI.4.10.102020...@dragon.wdc.photon.com>,
> Jamie Bowden wrote:
> > I like grape juice. You know how hard it is to grape juice that doesn't
> > have apple (which I don't like) added to it? There's Welch's 100%, but
> > it's only available in large sizes or frozen, which is inconvenient to
> > take to work. All the boxed grape juices (Welch's included) add apple.
> You might have better luck if you ask for grape juice which has gone a
> bit off for a few years. It's really quite amazing what a few yeast,
> some oak and a decade will do grape juice. And they only very rarely
> add apple juice.
You're not the first to suggest this, and I have a nice claret waiting for
a convenient time, but for day to day, I prefer the unfermented stuff as
'drink this because it's better for me than soda, and I've already drank
a trees worth of orange juice today.'
David P. Murphy
> You might have better luck if you ask for grape juice which has gone a
> bit off for a few years. It's really quite amazing what a few yeast,
> some oak and a decade will do grape juice. And they only very rarely
> add apple juice.
And the singular for "yeast" would be?
Chris Suslowicz
Suresh Ramasubramanian <dev...@hserus.net> wrote:
> I'd better get my head examined before
>I start seeing pink elephants telling me how to compile kernels.
>
>Likely that's happened already. I've been getting nightmares about $things at
>$ork, soon as I close my eyes and try to get some sleep (at 6 AM in the morning
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<reaches for trout>
<*THWAPP!!!!!*>
>after an all-nighter). Now I *know* it is time to take a longish weekend off.
One long weekend coming up (mine, not yours). 8-P>
Chris
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>
>> You might have better luck if you ask for grape juice which has gone a
>> bit off for a few years. It's really quite amazing what a few yeast,
>> some oak and a decade will do grape juice. And they only very rarely
>> add apple juice.
>
> And the singular for "yeast" would be?
One yeast <cell>, many yeast <cells>. I only use yeasts when
referring to multiple strains at one time. But the locution was
inelegant; I should have written `some yeast' rather than `a few
yeast.'
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control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked; contrariwise, no amount
of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the
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the most you can do is kill him. --Robert A. Heinlein
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
In <slrna5rl...@manlap.zetnet.co.uk>, on 02/04/2002
at 12:23 AM, Paul Martin <p...@zetnet.net> said:
>So, matzos are the Jewish equivalent of Dwarf bread?
No, you don't need power tools to break a matza, and you can break
dwarf bread without leaving crumbs. Also, the mind boggles at the
ideas of dwarf bread brie and dwarf bread farfel.
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JoeB> And so we were confronted by a bottle of Chateau Yqem
JoeB> Sauternes, 1964.
JoeB> Which was, with bugger all ceremony, uncorked and
JoeB> drunk. Quite astonishing it was too.
I *like* this guy already and I haven't even met him. Which reminds
me, I must find an excuse to open the bottle of 1982 port[1] and 1944
red wine[2] in the "cellar".
[1] AFAIK, Graham's Malvedos is the cream of the crop produced in
non-vintage years, and is essentially vintage quality for about half
the price. It's now 20 years old, so time to drink!
[2] Some obscure Cypriot vineyard. Allegedly excellent, and for the
price of a 1990+ French Wine, definately worth a chance.
Robin Munn
>In article <m3it9et...@venus.fo.et.local>,
>Joachim Breuer <jmbr...@gmx.net> wrote:
>>Well, I don't. Used to wonder for years why sometimes juice (mostly
>>apple) that got offered to me (by relatives etc., that is I didn't get
>>to see the container) gave me a splitting headache, and sometimes it
>>didn't.
>
>Aha. So I _wasn't_ just imagining that when I was a kid. These days I
>like apple juice, but it took years to get to the point because of the
>pain I associated with it. Maybe one day I will actually want to eat
>an apple. People keep acting as if they're really great, but I still
>can't get myself to be interested in them. (Part of this has to do
>with the texture.)
What variety of apples are you talking about here? I find I quite enjoy
crunchy varieties like Granny Smith (which is also nice and sour -- I
like sour), but mushy varieties (don't know any names off-hand) tend to
put me off.
General question: What's *your* favorite variety of apples, and why?
To avoid the ObJokes: I am, of course, talking about the fruit, not the
computer.
--
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Suresh Ramasubramanian
> Suresh Ramasubramanian <dev...@hserus.net> wrote:
> >Likely that's happened already. I've been getting nightmares about $things
> >morning
> <reaches for trout>
> <*THWAPP!!!!!*>
/me is going to go out like a light - and early. Just 1 AM here.
> >after an all-nighter). Now I *know* it is time to take a longish weekend
> >off.
> One long weekend coming up (mine, not yours). 8-P>
Have a good one.
-srs
Felix Deutsch
>What variety of apples are you talking about here? I find I quite enjoy
>crunchy varieties like Granny Smith (which is also nice and sour -- I
>like sour), but mushy varieties (don't know any names off-hand) tend to
>put me off.
>
>General question: What's *your* favorite variety of apples, and why?
When I'm going on a fruit run, I go for a mix of cox orange, few golden
delicious and several other rather old (in the sense of cultivation)
varieties. Although the latter ones get difficult to aquire, with all
that EU streamlining of products and genetic material in general.
Felix
D. Joseph Creighton
}On 4 Feb 2002 01:08:02 -0600, Logan Shaw <lo...@cs.utexas.edu> wrote:
Wow. Another texture-sensitive person. And here my family thinks I'm such
an oddity (well, I *am* but that's in other respects).
}What variety of apples are you talking about here? I find I quite enjoy
}crunchy varieties like Granny Smith (which is also nice and sour -- I
}like sour), but mushy varieties (don't know any names off-hand) tend to
}put me off.
}
}General question: What's *your* favorite variety of apples, and why?
I'm in agreement with you: refrigerated, crunchy, sour types like Granny
Smith are my favorites. Anything warm and soft is TTTSNBN.
--
"This statement is false."
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Joe_Cr...@UManitoba.CA | University of Manitoba Winnipeg, MB, Canada, eh?
Lieven Marchand
> And so we were confronted by a bottle of Chateau Yqem Sauternes, 1964.
*drool*
>
> Which was, with bugger all ceremony, uncorked and drunk. Quite
> astonishing it was too.
>
> I expressed some trepidation about drinking it - surely it must be
> worth a bit?
You don't want to look up the price of that bottle.
> SWMBO's dad replied to the effect that "The other two
> bottles have gone off, there's no guarantee that this will be OK in a
> year's time, and besides we might all get hit by a bus tomorrow."
>
> Splendid man. Can't fault him.
Does he have any daughters that are single?
--
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She says, "Honey, you're a Bastard of great proportion."
He says, "Darling, I plead guilty to that sin."
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Mike Andrews
:>>>>> "JoeB" == JoeB <mo...@clara.co.uk> writes:
: JoeB> And so we were confronted by a bottle of Chateau Yqem
: JoeB> Sauternes, 1964.
: JoeB> Which was, with bugger all ceremony, uncorked and
: JoeB> drunk. Quite astonishing it was too.
: I *like* this guy already and I haven't even met him. Which reminds
: me, I must find an excuse to open the bottle of 1982 port[1] and 1944
: red wine[2] in the "cellar".
From <http://www.crushedgrapes.com/winemouse/ChateaudYquem/ChateaudYquem.html>:
> Chateau d' Yquem is the greatest wine of the Sauternes
> and, certainly one of the greatest white wines of the
> world. The property has produced wine for more than
> four centuries. It came into the family of the Marquis
> de Lur Saluces by marriage in 1785 and is still owned
> today by the Lur Saluces family. The renown of Yquem
> was already established by the middle of the 18th
> Century - as a favorite at the Courts of the Tsars
> and of America's first connoisseur, Thomas Jefferson.
> In the 1855 classification of Sauternes and Médoc it
> was the only wine classed as a Superior First Growth
> (Premier Cru Superieur).
and from <http://www.crushedgrapes.com/winemouse/ChateaudYquem/ChateaudYquem.html>:
> There was no Yquem in 1930, 1951, 1964, 1972 and 1974.
But there must have been something; I doubt the entire crop
failed. And I'll bet it was good.
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Suresh Ramasubramanian
> It is said by some that David P. Murphy once wrote:
> > Robert A. Uhl <ru...@latakia.dyndns.org> wrote:
> >
> >> You might have better luck if you ask for grape juice which has gone a
> >> bit off for a few years. It's really quite amazing what a few yeast,
> >> some oak and a decade will do grape juice. And they only very rarely
> >> add apple juice.
> >
> > And the singular for "yeast" would be?
>
Too much cider, you are So^HuSEd.
-srs
Suresh Ramasubramanian
> It is said by some that Suresh Ramasubramanian once wrote:
> > Chris Suslowicz [alt.sysadmin.recovery] <Mon, 04 Feb 2002 16:20:15 +0000>:
> >> Suresh Ramasubramanian <dev...@hserus.net> wrote:
> >> >Likely that's happened already. I've been getting nightmares about
> >> >$things at ork, soon as I close my eyes and try to get some sleep (at 6
> >> >AM in the morning
> >> <reaches for trout>
> >> <*THWAPP!!!!!*>
> >
> > /me is going to go out like a light - and early. Just 1 AM here.
>
Morning, on another day. Chris is following up to an old post.
Unless 'ante meridian' changed its meaning when I was sleepwalking.
-srs
Garrett Wollman
Suresh Ramasubramanian <sur...@hserus.net> wrote:
>Unless 'ante meridian' changed its meaning when I was sleepwalking.
I'm not aware of it having a meaning. Perhaps you meant ``ante
meridiem''.
-GAWollman
Suresh Ramasubramanian
> In article <sr9n3a...@blackehlo.outblaze.com>,
> Suresh Ramasubramanian <sur...@hserus.net> wrote:
>
> >Unless 'ante meridian' changed its meaning when I was sleepwalking.
>
> I'm not aware of it having a meaning. Perhaps you meant ``ante
> meridiem''.
Typo. Gotta get brane recharged with some sleep.
-srs
Maarten Wiltink
[...]
>Dad rummages for a while, emerging with three dust-encrusted bottles.
>
><prods at cork of first bottle> "Damn. That one's no use."
>
><ditto for second bottle.>
>
><third bottle> "Aha! We have a winner."
>
>And so we were confronted by a bottle of Chateau Yqem Sauternes, 1964.
>Splendid man. Can't fault him.
Splendid? He was _late_. Did anyone notice the first two bottles?
Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink
david...@pobox.com
Paul Martin <p...@zetnet.net> wrote:
>In article <a3mn0d$lt9$1...@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>,
> D. Joseph Creighton wrote:
>> In the last exciting episode, Robin Munn <rm...@pobox.com> wrote:
>>}On 4 Feb 2002 01:08:02 -0600, Logan Shaw <lo...@cs.utexas.edu> wrote:
>>}>... (Part of this has to do with the texture.)
>>
>> Wow. Another texture-sensitive person. And here my family thinks I'm such
>> an oddity (well, I *am* but that's in other respects).
>
>also have a very low spice threshold -- a pinch of powdered pepper in
>mashed spuds is too hot for me. Sad, I know.
<AOL> on the texture bit, and there are very few foods of any
texture that I like cold (so salads are right out ... ).
I can handle spices, though, I don't mind a dash or three
of chilli (powdered or real), pepper, etc.
(and just about everyone who hears about my mostly meat'n'potatoes
diet thinks I'm an oddity ... )
David.
--
(david.cook at pobox.com)
(in Melbourne, Australia)
David P. Murphy
> Lieven Marchand <m...@wyrd.be> wrote in
> news:m3r8o1j...@localhost.localdomain:
>> You don't want to look up the price of that bottle.
I didn't, until you said that.
> *Google* to satisfy curiosity....
> <URL:http://www.crushedgrapes.com/winemouse/ChateaudYquem/ChateaudYquem
> .html>
> "[...] Yquem is produced nearly every year (in recent years, the only
> exceptions were 1964, 1972 and 1974)."
> Chateau Yquem Sauternes, 1964?
> Considering that this source says there wasn't any produced in 1964, I
> would expect the price of that bottle to be $BIGNUM, especially in
> imaginary currency. If it was indeed for real, well, the bit you drank
> probably was worth more than the GDP of any two third world nations.
> (Disclaimer: I am not a wine guru; I just happen to live in an area
> where some is made.)
http://www.tinamou.com/lg_format.html
4.5 liters 1993 Chateau Yquem Sauternes $1099.00
Mike Andrews
: Pete - also a fan of Roma tomatoes...
DYM the egg-shaped, thick-skinned, tasteless, survive a collision
at 25 MPH, imitation tomatoes sold in the USofA as "Roma
Tomatoes", or something else that I don't know about, but which
is (at least a lot more like) a real tomato?
For my money, Sweet 100, Sweet Million, Best Boy, and Big Beef
are the best tomato varieties. The first two are cherry tomatoes,
and the other two are big, sweet, old-style tomatoes.
Gotta go plant soon ... .
--
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-- Eric Sheppard (ce1...@prism.gatech.EDU)
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
In <a3mn0d$lt9$1...@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>, on 02/04/2002
at 07:21 PM, d...@cc.umanitoba.ca (D. Joseph Creighton) said:
>I'm in agreement with you: refrigerated, crunchy, sour types like
>Granny Smith are my favorites. Anything warm and soft is TTTSNBN.
I'm having trouble figuring out what you do with those mushy apples.
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
In <slrna5te1...@rmunn.dyndns.org>, on 02/04/2002
at 04:38 PM, rm...@pobox.com (Robin Munn) said:
>General question: What's *your* favorite variety of apples,
<AOL>
I like crisp, sour varieties like GS.</AOL>
>and why?
Just my sweet disposition.
Michael D. Hofer
>
> In <a3mn0d$lt9$1...@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>, on 02/04/2002
> at 07:21 PM, d...@cc.umanitoba.ca (D. Joseph Creighton) said:
>
> >I'm in agreement with you: refrigerated, crunchy, sour types like
> >Granny Smith are my favorites. Anything warm and soft is TTTSNBN.
>
> I'm having trouble figuring out what you do with those mushy apples.
Crush, Press, Ferment and (optionally) distill/freeze-distill!!
Best use of sugar there is.
--
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Robert A. Uhl
<Pine.LNX.4.44.020205...@newt.ancientpond.com>,
Michael D. Hofer wrote:
>
> Crush, Press, Ferment and (optionally) distill/freeze-distill!!
In college I tried to freeze-distill cider, but had no
luck--essentially, I endded up throwing away about the same mixture of
alcohol/water/colour that I kept. Anyone have any suggestions for How
to Do It Right?
Have a root beer happily fermenting away in my closet atm. Going to
be tasty indeed: 3 lbs. clover honey, 1 lb. wildflower honey, 1
lb. malt extract and 1 lb. brown sugar; 1 tsp. ground ginger, 1
tsp. ground cinnamon, 1 tsp. ground coriander, 2 oz. root beer extract
(and prob. going to add another oz.).
--
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If I have pinged farther than others, it is because I routed upon the
T3s of giants. --Greg Adams
Dan Birchall
> General question: What's *your* favorite variety of apples, and why?
Stayman Winesap. Eat it fresh, bake it in pies, make cider...
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kesi...@math.ttu.edu
: It is said by some that kesi...@math.ttu.edu once wrote:
:> [1] I should point out that generic Dr. Pepper tastes a lot more like
:> real Dr. Pepper than generic Coke tastes like Coke.
: http://www.kibo.com/kibofood/dr_pepper.html
I find myself largely agreeing with Leader K on the brands which
I've tried, although I think I'd rate Dr. Thunder a little higher.
There's apparently much more selection in Boston than Lubbock, suprisingly.
==Jake
Garrett Wollman
>There's apparently much more selection in Boston than Lubbock, suprisingly.
Considering how awful the supermarkets in Boston are, I don't ever
want to be more than a brief visitor to Lubbock....
Jay Maynard
wrote:
>Have a root beer happily fermenting away in my closet atm. Going to
>be tasty indeed: 3 lbs. clover honey, 1 lb. wildflower honey, 1
>lb. malt extract and 1 lb. brown sugar; 1 tsp. ground ginger, 1
>tsp. ground cinnamon, 1 tsp. ground coriander, 2 oz. root beer extract
>(and prob. going to add another oz.).
ObXThread: You're making root beer that tastes like soap?
Robert A. Uhl
>
>>Have a root beer happily fermenting away in my closet atm. Going to
>>be tasty indeed: 3 lbs. clover honey, 1 lb. wildflower honey, 1
>>lb. malt extract and 1 lb. brown sugar; 1 tsp. ground ginger, 1
>>tsp. ground cinnamon, 1 tsp. ground coriander, 2 oz. root beer extract
>>(and prob. going to add another oz.).
>
> ObXThread: You're making root beer that tastes like soap?
Well, the spices are all common root beer spices (yes, I was surprised
too). And I've no supply of sassafras (it's illegal, actually, but I
don't care) or sarsaparilla, so extract it had to be.
Before I added the extract (I let the lively fermentation cease, so as
not to lose too much aroma), it tasted very much like a cider. It was
_very_ tasty; the spices weren't really noticable, other than the fact
that it didn't taste like a braggot.
--
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wrote yours?
Jack Twilley
[...]
Ingvar> I've freeze-distilled mead. Basically, "make frozen solid, let
Ingvar> thaw, pour when the central ice core looks noticeably
Ingvar> clearer". You may have more luck with "let freeze, pour when a
Ingvar> central ice core forms" and iterating.
Hrm. The one time I did this, it went well.
* pour mead into wide-mouthed containers
* store upside-down for two weeks
* freeze upside-down for two weeks
* remove from freezer, invert, remove the lid, scoop out the ice and
the yeast/must/whatever
Easier than filtering, and it just took time. I suspect two weeks in
each stage was overkill, but it worked.
Jack.
--
Jack Twilley
jmt at twilley dot org
http colon slash slash www dot twilley dot org slash tilde jmt slash
Tanuki the Raccoon-dog
<d...@cc.umanitoba.ca> said
>In the last exciting episode, Robin Munn <rm...@pobox.com> wrote:
>}On 4 Feb 2002 01:08:02 -0600, Logan Shaw <lo...@cs.utexas.edu> wrote:
>}>... (Part of this has to do with the texture.)
>
>Wow. Another texture-sensitive person. And here my family thinks I'm such
>an oddity (well, I *am* but that's in other respects).
If you want evil texture, try Okra. There are very few[1] occasions
when I'm prepared to put up with such a degree of unnatural sliminess
in my mouth.
As regards apples, I find the texture and taste of the small "Russet"
apples to be quite pleasant. Do they have Russets outside .UK?
[1]Danger, Will Robinson. Do Not Go There.
--
!Raised Tails! -:Tanuki:-
"Look, Listen, Smell. If it looks OK, sounds OK and smells OK, leave well
alone. If it doesn't, wait. It will either get better or worse. If it gets
better you don't have to do anything; if it gets worse, then the problem's
easier to find"
Michael D. Hofer
> Well, the spices are all common root beer spices (yes, I was surprised
> too). And I've no supply of sassafras (it's illegal, actually, but I
> don't care) or sarsaparilla, so extract it had to be.
Illegal to sell, or sell products made from it (woe to the file (fee-lay)
powder and gumbo vendors of Louisana...), but I happen to have just shy of
seven acres of sassafras scrubs, in and among the birch and blueberries
of Warren County, NY.
Where are you, wanna gather some? :)
Ross J. Reedstrom
Jay Maynard <jmay...@conmicro.cx> wrote:
>On Tue, 05 Feb 2002 17:33:52 -0000, Robert A. Uhl <ru...@latakia.dyndns.org>
>wrote:
>>Have a root beer happily fermenting away in my closet atm. Going to
>>tsp. ground cinnamon, 1 tsp. ground coriander, 2 oz. root beer extract
>ObXThread: You're making root beer that tastes like soap?
As one who does not like cilantro, let me chime in: there's a world of
difference between coriander *leaves* and ground coriander (seed).
Ross
Robert A. Uhl
> powder and gumbo vendors of Louisana...), but I happen to have just shy of
> seven acres of sassafras scrubs, in and among the birch and blueberries
> of Warren County, NY.
I believe that file is made from the leaves and is legal--it's the
flavourful root that is banned. The `sassafras' which is sold these
days is the bark, which is Not The Same Thing.
> Where are you, wanna gather some? :)
Thanks--but I'm in Denver, Colo. Bit of a ways away, unfortunately.
Thanks for the offer, though.
--
Robert Uhl <ru...@4dv.net>
Out of doubt, out of dark to the day's rising
I came singing in the sun, sword unsheathing.
To hope's end I rode, to heart's breaking:
Now for wrath, now for ruin and a red nightfall!
Logan Shaw
"There is a $2.50 fee to access your root beer."
"But that's _my_ root beer!"
(The R in this STR may be a regional thing, so don't be too
disappointed if you don't S it.)
- Logan
--
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Chris Suslowicz
der...@bitflood.net (Derick Siddoway) wrote:
>It is said by some that Suresh Ramasubramanian once wrote:
>> Chris Suslowicz [alt.sysadmin.recovery] <Mon, 04 Feb 2002 16:20:15 +0000>:
>>> Suresh Ramasubramanian <dev...@hserus.net> wrote:
>>> >Likely that's happened already. I've been getting nightmares about $things
>>> >at ork, soon as I close my eyes and try to get some sleep (at 6 AM in the
>>> >morning
>>> <reaches for trout>
>>> <*THWAPP!!!!!*>
>>
>> /me is going to go out like a light - and early. Just 1 AM here.
>
>Is that in the morning or in the afternoon?
<*THWAPP!!!!!*>
Stop aggravating my "Moonlight Shadow" peeve.
Chris.
--
What happened to the testers of Preparation A through G?
Chris Suslowicz
Suresh Ramasubramanian <dev...@hserus.net> wrote:
Yes, I wrote it on Thursday but forgot to send it before I left by rail[1].
>Unless 'ante meridian' changed its meaning when I was sleepwalking.
Not here.
Chris.
[1] No faplaps were carrying it.
Trevor Osatchuk
wrote:
>On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 21:29:57 GMT, Joe Zeff
><the.guy.with....@lasfs.org> wrote:
>> All I can do is wait, in the knowledge that this too shall pass.
>
>*GROAN*
>
>Okay, you win.
>
Sorry, second place. As a child I had an accident where I fell from a
dome shaped 'monkey bar' and landed on a one of the lower bars using
my groin as a braking mechanism. This caused some scarring on/in my
urethra. As I got older this scar tissue contiued to build up, so
when I was 18 I got a cystoscopy and a 'stretch'. I was unconsious
for this, so I only had to deal with the pain after.
About two years ago, it flared up again, with a vengence. My urethra
was so constricted that I could only urinate if my kidneys or bladder
would go into spasm. Very painful on the lower back. By the time I
got into the specialist[1] I could barley pass water at all.
I was in the operating room with me feet in the stirrups, much like
the gyno I imagine, when he tried to feed a guitar string sized[2]
wire up through the ol' John Thomas into my bladder. He couldn't find
the hole! By the way, he was using a scope that went most of the way.
The scope was about the thickness of a mechanical Bic pencil.
He dug around for about 10 minutes and finally got through. He said
that if he wouldn't have been able to strike oil in the next 10
minutes it would have been surgery! So, with the guide wire in he
starts to slide blue pencil shaped objects down through the love
muscle into the bladder. Each on larger than the last. Wanna know
the final diameter? 3 cm.
Ouch! It was like lighting bolts were shooting through my entire
body! I had a local, but it didn't matter. He then put in
catheter[3] and sent me on my way.
Truthfully, this story is much better told in the oral tradition. I
skipped many of the details for brevity.
[1] Took about 6 months to get an appointment.[4]
[2] A high 'E' electric.
[3] Which when inserted emptied the rest of my bladder all over the
front of his lab coat. Sweet justice!
[4] Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!
>Bill
>
>--
>Bill Bradford
>mrb...@mrbill.net
>Austin, TX
Trev.
Mike Andrews
: He dug around for about 10 minutes and finally got through. He said
: that if he wouldn't have been able to strike oil in the next 10
: minutes it would have been surgery! So, with the guide wire in he
: starts to slide blue pencil shaped objects down through the love
: muscle into the bladder. Each on larger than the last. Wanna know
: the final diameter? 3 cm.
: Ouch! It was like lighting bolts were shooting through my entire
: body! I had a local, but it didn't matter. He then put in
: catheter[3] and sent me on my way.
*O*U*C*H* *O*U*C*H**O*U*C*H**O*U*C*H**O*U*C*H**O*U*C*H**O*U*C*H*
And you, too, were privileged to experience the sensation of
multiple blood clots sliding through and out, I expect. My
most recent cystoscopy, to take the stent out of my left ureter,
was a bit rougher than I cared for. No, that's not true.
It was _much_ rougher, though yours still takes the cake,
in spades.
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