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Re: There's never enough time to do it right...

er...@rail.eu.org (Erwan David) — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 19:08:38 UT

Joe Zeff <the.guy.with.the.sidebu...@la sfs.info> disait le 01/05/10 que :
Do not forget also what happens when an admin leaves...

Re: There's never enough time to do it right...

mi...@mikea.ath.cx (mikea) — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 13:42:03 UT

Steve VanDevender <ste...@hexadecimal.uoregon.ed u> wrote in <hhueq1$12r...@isis.novusordo. net>:
"God, root, what is difference?"

Re: There's never enough time to do it right...

sp...@orion-com.com (Joe Thompson) — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 04:26:29 UT

On at least some systems, you will note that certain environment variables
will be set differently. -- Joe

Re: There's never enough time to do it right...

sp...@orion-com.com (Joe Thompson) — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 04:22:35 UT

But first you have to find out the name of one of those logins. Also,
unless the admin has done something really daft, you have to chance upon
one of the accounts with sudo permission -- *any* user login won't do.
Of course you can always [UI elided], but there are (or were -- I
imagine things must have improved recently, neh?) things that will break

Re: There's never enough time to do it right...

ste...@hexadecimal.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 04:22:14 UT

Thou art God. All who grok system administration are God.

Re: There's never enough time to do it right...

the.guy.with.the.sidebu...@lasfs.info (Joe Zeff) — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 02:33:02 UT

Man su will tell you a way around that. I'd be more specific if I didn't
suspect that it's UI for you.

Re: There's never enough time to do it right...

the.guy.with.the.sidebu...@lasfs.info (Joe Zeff) — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 02:30:29 UT

IMAO, that's what sudo is for, especially if you limit him to the
commands you think he needs.

Re: There's never enough time to do it right...

stap...@cs.mu.oz.au.spam (David Cameron Staples) — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 00:48:05 UT

in Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:25:02 +0000, Peter H. Coffin in hic loco scripsit:
Hideous.
Hoary.
Haggard.

Re: There's never enough time to do it right...

hell...@ninehells.com (Peter H. Coffin) — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:25:02 UT

"Horrible", obviously.

Re: There's never enough time to do it right...

ralt...@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:14:00 UT

What does the H stand for in IMHO?
What is the Monk-appropriate opposite of that word?
Richard

Re: There's never enough time to do it right...

g...@panix.com (Greg Andrews) — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:43:06 UT

Arrogant (i.e. the converse of IMHO)
-Greg

Re: There's never enough time to do it right...

j...@panix.com (Jed Davis) — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:39:31 UT

So what you're saying is that root's shell should be Emacs?

Re: There's never enough time to do it right...

woll...@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 20:50:25 UT

I am intentionally not saying. You should fill in the semantic frame
with whatever shell you consider to be Right And Proper.
-GAWollman

Re: There's never enough time to do it right...

mi...@mikea.ath.cx (mikea) — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 20:26:26 UT

Garrett Wollman <woll...@bimajority.org> wrote in <hhtffv$19k...@grapevine.csail .mit.edu>:
Oh, good! Editor wars aren't enough; now Garrett wants to start the
first shell war of 2010.
So tell us, Garret: which shell is TSTGI?

Re: There's never enough time to do it right...

hell...@ninehells.com (Peter H. Coffin) — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 19:55:02 UT

The logging is nice. For those "Now what the hell did I do last time?"
moments...