http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sysadmin.recovery Getting over the trauma of system administration. (Moderated) 2010-01-06T07:46:23Z Google Groups Maarten Wiltink maar...@kittensandcats.net 2010-01-06T07:46:23Z http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sysadmin.recovery/browse_frm/thread/e2b8b0631927eda2/32761064b29415e5?show_docid=32761064b29415e5

<a target="_blank" href="http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=pan.2010.01.06.07.13.21.499753@hired-goons.net">news:pan.2010.01.06.07.13.21.499753@hired-goons.net</a>... <br> ...Even last week. Really! <br> It's not about the thing, it's about the discovering. Incidentally, <br> the ability to discover things makes you brilliant, not a genius. <br> Geniuses produce the things other people discover, and they do it <br> without howtos. <br> Tebrgwrf,

Dave Hughes spamb...@hired-goons.net 2010-01-06T07:13:21Z http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sysadmin.recovery/browse_frm/thread/e2b8b0631927eda2/16a62fb81e78f982?show_docid=16a62fb81e78f982

I knew that...

Steve VanDevender ste...@hexadecimal.uoregon.edu 2010-01-06T06:08:34Z http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sysadmin.recovery/browse_frm/thread/e2b8b0631927eda2/b862450dcd45eff3?show_docid=b862450dcd45eff3

A conversation in The Other Place once spawned this speculative vision <br> of the NetHack Shell: <br> $ cd .. <br> $ pwd <br> / <br> $ cd .. <br> Beware, there will be no return! Still chdir? [yn] (n) y <br> Do you want your processes identified? [ynq] (n) <br> Do you want to see your file attributes? [ynq] (n) <br> Do you want to see your stderr output? [ynq] (n)

Alan J Rosenthal fl...@dgp.toronto.edu 2010-01-06T02:12:26Z http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sysadmin.recovery/browse_frm/thread/e2b8b0631927eda2/22caa7dcad18e99f?show_docid=22caa7dcad18e99f

The Adventure Shell! <br> <a target="_blank" rel=nofollow href="http://groups.google.com/group/comp.unix.questions/msg/b8839022c9537124?output=gplain">[link]</a>

Alan J Rosenthal fl...@dgp.toronto.edu 2010-01-06T02:07:14Z http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sysadmin.recovery/browse_frm/thread/e2b8b0631927eda2/221eba345fb27517?show_docid=221eba345fb27517

&quot;Please&quot;. <br> hth,

Alan J Rosenthal fl...@dgp.toronto.edu 2010-01-06T02:05:15Z http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sysadmin.recovery/browse_frm/thread/e2b8b0631927eda2/516cfe197e40631e?show_docid=516cfe197e40631e

Linux weenies, and equivalent people in other spheres, show off by explaining <br> how the thing they just discovered last week separates the geniuses (e.g. <br> them) from the morons (e.g. everyone else).

Alan J Rosenthal fl...@dgp.toronto.edu 2010-01-06T02:06:33Z http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sysadmin.recovery/browse_frm/thread/e2b8b0631927eda2/8b6bb83a1a38b193?show_docid=8b6bb83a1a38b193

All versions of sudo arguably have this, in a certain vacuous sense. <br> (N.B. your second-last word above.)

Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org 2010-01-05T19:08:38Z http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sysadmin.recovery/browse_frm/thread/e2b8b0631927eda2/7ea0db93c1466687?show_docid=7ea0db93c1466687

Joe Zeff &lt;the.guy.with.the.sidebu...@la sfs.info&gt; disait le 01/05/10 que : <br> Do not forget also what happens when an admin leaves...

mikea mi...@mikea.ath.cx 2010-01-05T13:42:03Z http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sysadmin.recovery/browse_frm/thread/e2b8b0631927eda2/a5375437ab2242a1?show_docid=a5375437ab2242a1

Steve VanDevender &lt;ste...@hexadecimal.uoregon.ed u&gt; wrote in &lt;hhueq1$12r...@isis.novusordo. net&gt;: <br> &quot;God, root, what is difference?&quot;

Joe Thompson sp...@orion-com.com 2010-01-05T04:26:29Z http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sysadmin.recovery/browse_frm/thread/e2b8b0631927eda2/af9d9ed65467f68a?show_docid=af9d9ed65467f68a

On at least some systems, you will note that certain environment variables <br> will be set differently. -- Joe

Joe Thompson sp...@orion-com.com 2010-01-05T04:22:35Z http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sysadmin.recovery/browse_frm/thread/e2b8b0631927eda2/9f79c78921fdc7f3?show_docid=9f79c78921fdc7f3

But first you have to find out the name of one of those logins. Also, <br> unless the admin has done something really daft, you have to chance upon <br> one of the accounts with sudo permission -- *any* user login won't do. <br> Of course you can always [UI elided], but there are (or were -- I <br> imagine things must have improved recently, neh?) things that will break

Steve VanDevender ste...@hexadecimal.uoregon.edu 2010-01-05T04:22:14Z http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sysadmin.recovery/browse_frm/thread/e2b8b0631927eda2/f67ca48f99fc0c85?show_docid=f67ca48f99fc0c85

Thou art God. All who grok system administration are God.

Joe Zeff the.guy.with.the.sidebu...@lasfs.info 2010-01-05T02:33:02Z http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sysadmin.recovery/browse_frm/thread/e2b8b0631927eda2/df1c86023547ce5b?show_docid=df1c86023547ce5b

Man su will tell you a way around that. I'd be more specific if I didn't <br> suspect that it's UI for you.

Joe Zeff the.guy.with.the.sidebu...@lasfs.info 2010-01-05T02:30:29Z http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sysadmin.recovery/browse_frm/thread/e2b8b0631927eda2/b73cc2d98593e70f?show_docid=b73cc2d98593e70f

IMAO, that's what sudo is for, especially if you limit him to the <br> commands you think he needs.

David Cameron Staples stap...@cs.mu.oz.au.spam 2010-01-05T00:48:05Z http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sysadmin.recovery/browse_frm/thread/e2b8b0631927eda2/1a7e2888730bbc98?show_docid=1a7e2888730bbc98

in Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:25:02 +0000, Peter H. Coffin in hic loco scripsit: <br> Hideous. <br> Hoary. <br> Haggard.