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hymie!
May 2, 2013, 10:40:53 AM5/2/13
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Just a quickie, not even tech related, at least not really.
We need to cancel one of our providers. They require such notice to
be in writing with a signature. Such notice needs to be converted to
a PDF and e-mailed to them. Such notice needs to be on company letterhead.
Yes, because that totally isn't something I can create in 5 minutes.
--hymie! http://lactose.homelinux.net/~hymie hy...@lactose.homelinux.net
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We need to cancel one of our providers. They require such notice to
be in writing with a signature. Such notice needs to be converted to
a PDF and e-mailed to them. Such notice needs to be on company letterhead.
Yes, because that totally isn't something I can create in 5 minutes.
--hymie! http://lactose.homelinux.net/~hymie hy...@lactose.homelinux.net
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Maarten Wiltink
May 2, 2013, 5:14:02 PM5/2/13
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"hymie!" <hy...@lactose.homelinux.net> wrote in message
news:51827af5$0$61667$862e...@ngroups.net...
> Just a quickie, not even tech related, at least not really.
>
> We need to cancel one of our providers. They require such notice to
> be in writing with a signature. Such notice needs to be converted to
> a PDF and e-mailed to them. Such notice needs to be on company
> letterhead.
>
> Yes, because that totally isn't something I can create in 5 minutes.
Not to mention that they want the letterhead in PDF. A good thing our
letterhead is done by Word macros anyway.
This is fax thinking, carried into the twenty-first century. Badly.
Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink
news:51827af5$0$61667$862e...@ngroups.net...
> Just a quickie, not even tech related, at least not really.
>
> We need to cancel one of our providers. They require such notice to
> be in writing with a signature. Such notice needs to be converted to
> a PDF and e-mailed to them. Such notice needs to be on company
> letterhead.
>
> Yes, because that totally isn't something I can create in 5 minutes.
letterhead is done by Word macros anyway.
This is fax thinking, carried into the twenty-first century. Badly.
Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink
Hans Klager
May 2, 2013, 7:02:00 PM5/2/13
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On 02 May 2013 14:40:53 GMT, hymie! <hy...@lactose.homelinux.net> wrote:
> Just a quickie, not even tech related, at least not really.
>
> We need to cancel one of our providers. They require such notice to
> be in writing with a signature. Such notice needs to be converted to
> a PDF and e-mailed to them. Such notice needs to be on company letterhead.
>
> Yes, because that totally isn't something I can create in 5 minutes.
I had a similar bit iof stupidity not two weeks ago. I
> Just a quickie, not even tech related, at least not really.
>
> We need to cancel one of our providers. They require such notice to
> be in writing with a signature. Such notice needs to be converted to
> a PDF and e-mailed to them. Such notice needs to be on company letterhead.
>
> Yes, because that totally isn't something I can create in 5 minutes.
wanted to cancel a T1 that had in fact been down for two years.
The sales dweeb told me that to cancel he needed signed dated
request on company letterhead.
I explained it is 2013 who has letterhead?
I'm not paying the bill, maybe they will tear it down
then.
Idiots.
--
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
- George Orwell
Hans Klager
May 2, 2013, 7:09:49 PM5/2/13
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six T1s with a CLEC. I called, explained at a certain date we
were pulling out of those premises and woukd no longer need the
T1s. They ignored me, I called again. Then they told me I should
send a fax requesting tear down. I told them, I didn't send a fax
to order service, why should I send a fax to cancel? No answer.
So, a week after I had pulled everything and moved it
across town and connectefd to my T1s with anothert CLEC, I went
over to our empty building to disconnect and remove the last of
the gear. I pulled all the CSU/DSUs and ten minutes later three
very angry guys banged on the door wanting to know who was
stealing their hardware. Being a friendly sort I let them have
the channel banks and reminded them, we wouldn't be paying their
bill from the time we doid request a tear down.
I didn't bill them for my time pulling their shit off my
racks.
Shmuel Metz
May 3, 2013, 4:52:50 PM5/3/13
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In <5182d71b$0$15912$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>, on 05/02/2013
1. Run a program and print the output.
2. Fax the output
3. OCR the fax'd output
4. Read the OCR output into another program.
My question is, how do you carry that into another century, decade,
year, month, day or even hour other than badly?
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <http://patriot.net/~shmuel> ISO position
Reply to domain Patriot dot net user shmuel+bspfh to contact me.
We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress.
(S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003)
at 11:14 PM, "Maarten Wiltink" <maa...@kittensandcats.net> said:
>This is fax thinking, carried into the twenty-first century. Badly.
I assume that by fax thinking you mean:
>This is fax thinking, carried into the twenty-first century. Badly.
1. Run a program and print the output.
2. Fax the output
3. OCR the fax'd output
4. Read the OCR output into another program.
My question is, how do you carry that into another century, decade,
year, month, day or even hour other than badly?
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <http://patriot.net/~shmuel> ISO position
Reply to domain Patriot dot net user shmuel+bspfh to contact me.
We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress.
(S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003)
Steve VanDevender
May 3, 2013, 8:21:43 PM5/3/13
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spam...@library.lspace.org.invalid> writes:
> In <5182d71b$0$15912$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>, on 05/02/2013
> at 11:14 PM, "Maarten Wiltink" <maa...@kittensandcats.net> said:
>
>>This is fax thinking, carried into the twenty-first century. Badly.
>
> I assume that by fax thinking you mean:
>
> 1. Run a program and print the output.
>
> 2. Fax the output
>
> 3. OCR the fax'd output
>
> 4. Read the OCR output into another program.
>
> My question is, how do you carry that into another century, decade,
> year, month, day or even hour other than badly?
You may as well integrate scribes and horseback messengers into that
> In <5182d71b$0$15912$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>, on 05/02/2013
> at 11:14 PM, "Maarten Wiltink" <maa...@kittensandcats.net> said:
>
>>This is fax thinking, carried into the twenty-first century. Badly.
>
> I assume that by fax thinking you mean:
>
> 1. Run a program and print the output.
>
> 2. Fax the output
>
> 3. OCR the fax'd output
>
> 4. Read the OCR output into another program.
>
> My question is, how do you carry that into another century, decade,
> year, month, day or even hour other than badly?
process and then you can carry it through a dozen centuries badly.
--
For I know what you don't know / And I see things you'll never see /
And I've a different way of living, you know / And I've such a different
frame of mind, and so ... / I'm on my way to the funnyfarm
-- Happy Rhodes, "To the Funnyfarm"
David Gersic
May 3, 2013, 10:43:33 PM5/3/13
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On Fri, 03 May 2013 16:52:50 -0400, Shmuel Metz <spam...@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:
> In <5182d71b$0$15912$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>, on 05/02/2013
> at 11:14 PM, "Maarten Wiltink" <maa...@kittensandcats.net> said:
>
>>This is fax thinking, carried into the twenty-first century. Badly.
>
> I assume that by fax thinking you mean:
>
> 1. Run a program and print the output.
>
> 2. Fax the output
>
> 3. OCR the fax'd output
>
> 4. Read the OCR output into another program.
>
> My question is, how do you carry that into another century, decade,
> year, month, day or even hour other than badly?
Involve "Word", somehow, preferably more than once.
> In <5182d71b$0$15912$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>, on 05/02/2013
> at 11:14 PM, "Maarten Wiltink" <maa...@kittensandcats.net> said:
>
>>This is fax thinking, carried into the twenty-first century. Badly.
>
> I assume that by fax thinking you mean:
>
> 1. Run a program and print the output.
>
> 2. Fax the output
>
> 3. OCR the fax'd output
>
> 4. Read the OCR output into another program.
>
> My question is, how do you carry that into another century, decade,
> year, month, day or even hour other than badly?
Wojciech Derechowski
May 3, 2013, 11:05:44 PM5/3/13
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WD
--
Who is Entscheidungs and what is his problem?
Maarten Wiltink
May 4, 2013, 6:04:50 AM5/4/13
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"Wojciech Derechowski" <wdd...@um5000.mystora.com> wrote in message
news:slrnko8uo8...@um5000.mystora.com...
I can dream, can't I?
Actually, I didn't even mean to go as far as steps 3 and 4.
>> Involve "Word", somehow, preferably more than once.
>
> And thinking, preferably at least twice.
Presumably by 'thinking' you mean 'human processing' as opposed to
machine processing. Human processing happens often - did I mention
that I indirectly work for a temping agency? We have private opinions
on their doing steps 3/4 above using eyeballs and keyboards when
people send in reports of hours worked. There's a reason I don't
often think of that; I find it distasteful.
Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink
news:slrnko8uo8...@um5000.mystora.com...
> On Sat, 04 May 2013 02:43:33 +0000, David Gersic wrote:
>> On Fri, 03 May 2013 16:52:50 -0400, Shmuel Metz
>> <spam...@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:
>>> In <5182d71b$0$15912$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>, on 05/02/2013
>>> at 11:14 PM, "Maarten Wiltink" <maa...@kittensandcats.net> said:
>>>> This is fax thinking, carried into the twenty-first century. Badly.
>>>
>>> I assume that by fax thinking you mean:
>>>
>>> 1. Run a program and print the output.
>>>
>>> 2. Fax the output
>>>
>>> 3. OCR the fax'd output
>>>
>>> 4. Read the OCR output into another program.
>>>
>>> My question is, how do you carry that into another century, decade,
>>> year, month, day or even hour other than badly?
Change 'fax' to 'email'. Then eliminate 'print' and 'OCR' steps.
>> On Fri, 03 May 2013 16:52:50 -0400, Shmuel Metz
>> <spam...@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:
>>> In <5182d71b$0$15912$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>, on 05/02/2013
>>> at 11:14 PM, "Maarten Wiltink" <maa...@kittensandcats.net> said:
>>>> This is fax thinking, carried into the twenty-first century. Badly.
>>>
>>> I assume that by fax thinking you mean:
>>>
>>> 1. Run a program and print the output.
>>>
>>> 2. Fax the output
>>>
>>> 3. OCR the fax'd output
>>>
>>> 4. Read the OCR output into another program.
>>>
>>> My question is, how do you carry that into another century, decade,
>>> year, month, day or even hour other than badly?
I can dream, can't I?
Actually, I didn't even mean to go as far as steps 3 and 4.
>> Involve "Word", somehow, preferably more than once.
>
> And thinking, preferably at least twice.
machine processing. Human processing happens often - did I mention
that I indirectly work for a temping agency? We have private opinions
on their doing steps 3/4 above using eyeballs and keyboards when
people send in reports of hours worked. There's a reason I don't
often think of that; I find it distasteful.
Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink
James Wilkinson
May 4, 2013, 3:46:35 PM5/4/13
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hymie! wrote:
> We need to cancel one of our providers. They require such notice to
> be in writing with a signature. Such notice needs to be converted to
> a PDF and e-mailed to them. Such notice needs to be on company letterhead.
>
> Yes, because that totally isn't something I can create in 5 minutes.
A few years ago, I was ordering a tower sever for various reasons¹. The
> We need to cancel one of our providers. They require such notice to
> be in writing with a signature. Such notice needs to be converted to
> a PDF and e-mailed to them. Such notice needs to be on company letterhead.
>
> Yes, because that totally isn't something I can create in 5 minutes.
vendor kept saying “rack”, I’d correct them, then next time they’d say
“rack” again.
So I made sure that the company letterhead fax had the right server
number on it, and began “We would like to order the tower version”, with
“tower” in bold.
Predictably, they still delivered a rack-mounted server, but they did
have the grace to admit they’d screwed up.
James
¹ Like “we didn’t have a suitable rack at the site and couldn’t justify
getting one.”
--
E-mail: james@ | Five miles as the hippopotamus bounces...
aprilcottage.co.uk |
jester
May 5, 2013, 2:18:44 PM5/5/13
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On Sat, 4 May 2013 12:04:50 +0200, Maarten Wiltink
<maa...@kittensandcats.net> wrote:
>"Wojciech Derechowski" <wdd...@um5000.mystora.com> wrote in message
>news:slrnko8uo8...@um5000.mystora.com...
>> On Sat, 04 May 2013 02:43:33 +0000, David Gersic wrote:
>>> On Fri, 03 May 2013 16:52:50 -0400, Shmuel Metz
>>> <spam...@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:
>>>> In <5182d71b$0$15912$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>, on 05/02/2013
>>>> at 11:14 PM, "Maarten Wiltink" <maa...@kittensandcats.net> said:
>
>>>>> This is fax thinking, carried into the twenty-first century. Badly.
>>>>
>>>> I assume that by fax thinking you mean:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Run a program and print the output.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Fax the output
>>>>
>>>> 3. OCR the fax'd output
>>>>
>>>> 4. Read the OCR output into another program.
>>>>
>>>> My question is, how do you carry that into another century, decade,
>>>> year, month, day or even hour other than badly?
>
>Change 'fax' to 'email'. Then eliminate 'print' and 'OCR' steps.
I've received an email to which was attached a scanned pdf of a printed
<maa...@kittensandcats.net> wrote:
>"Wojciech Derechowski" <wdd...@um5000.mystora.com> wrote in message
>news:slrnko8uo8...@um5000.mystora.com...
>> On Sat, 04 May 2013 02:43:33 +0000, David Gersic wrote:
>>> On Fri, 03 May 2013 16:52:50 -0400, Shmuel Metz
>>> <spam...@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:
>>>> In <5182d71b$0$15912$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>, on 05/02/2013
>>>> at 11:14 PM, "Maarten Wiltink" <maa...@kittensandcats.net> said:
>
>>>>> This is fax thinking, carried into the twenty-first century. Badly.
>>>>
>>>> I assume that by fax thinking you mean:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Run a program and print the output.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Fax the output
>>>>
>>>> 3. OCR the fax'd output
>>>>
>>>> 4. Read the OCR output into another program.
>>>>
>>>> My question is, how do you carry that into another century, decade,
>>>> year, month, day or even hour other than badly?
>
>Change 'fax' to 'email'. Then eliminate 'print' and 'OCR' steps.
out word document that I'd emailed out (to be filled in by various
cow-orkers responsible for various bits of IT equipment)
--
Andy Brown
"But what...is it good for?"
--Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM commenting on
the microchip, 1968.
Shmuel Metz
May 5, 2013, 9:18:07 PM5/5/13
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In <km1skl$via$1...@dont-email.me>, on 05/04/2013
at 02:43 AM, David Gersic <usenet_s...@zaccaria-pinball.com>
said:
The question was how you could do it *other than* badly; Shirley you
don't claim that using m$ word is not bad.
at 02:43 AM, David Gersic <usenet_s...@zaccaria-pinball.com>
said:
don't claim that using m$ word is not bad.
Shmuel Metz
May 5, 2013, 9:20:16 PM5/5/13
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In <5184dd43$0$15863$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>, on 05/04/2013
obsolete the first time that it was used, and that it was all downhill
from there. If this is UI, may Bog have mercy on your sole.
at 12:04 PM, "Maarten Wiltink" <maa...@kittensandcats.net> said:
>"Wojciech Derechowski" <wdd...@um5000.mystora.com> wrote in message
>news:slrnko8uo8...@um5000.mystora.com...
>> On Sat, 04 May 2013 02:43:33 +0000, David Gersic wrote:
>>> On Fri, 03 May 2013 16:52:50 -0400, Shmuel Metz
>>> <spam...@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:
>>>> In <5182d71b$0$15912$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>, on 05/02/2013
>>>> at 11:14 PM, "Maarten Wiltink" <maa...@kittensandcats.net> said:
>>>>> This is fax thinking, carried into the twenty-first century. Badly.
>>>>
>>>> I assume that by fax thinking you mean:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Run a program and print the output.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Fax the output
>>>>
>>>> 3. OCR the fax'd output
>>>>
>>>> 4. Read the OCR output into another program.
>>>>
>>>> My question is, how do you carry that into another century, decade,
>>>> year, month, day or even hour other than badly?
>Change 'fax' to 'email'. Then eliminate 'print' and 'OCR' steps.
>I can dream, can't I?
Sure, as long as you understand that the practice was well and truly
>"Wojciech Derechowski" <wdd...@um5000.mystora.com> wrote in message
>news:slrnko8uo8...@um5000.mystora.com...
>> On Sat, 04 May 2013 02:43:33 +0000, David Gersic wrote:
>>> On Fri, 03 May 2013 16:52:50 -0400, Shmuel Metz
>>> <spam...@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:
>>>> In <5182d71b$0$15912$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>, on 05/02/2013
>>>> at 11:14 PM, "Maarten Wiltink" <maa...@kittensandcats.net> said:
>>>>> This is fax thinking, carried into the twenty-first century. Badly.
>>>>
>>>> I assume that by fax thinking you mean:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Run a program and print the output.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Fax the output
>>>>
>>>> 3. OCR the fax'd output
>>>>
>>>> 4. Read the OCR output into another program.
>>>>
>>>> My question is, how do you carry that into another century, decade,
>>>> year, month, day or even hour other than badly?
>Change 'fax' to 'email'. Then eliminate 'print' and 'OCR' steps.
>I can dream, can't I?
obsolete the first time that it was used, and that it was all downhill
from there. If this is UI, may Bog have mercy on your sole.
Shmuel Metz
May 5, 2013, 9:36:22 PM5/5/13
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In <km1kao$qf4$1...@thames.novusordo.net>, on 05/03/2013
at 05:21 PM, Steve VanDevender <ste...@hexadecimal.uoregon.edu>
said:
>Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spam...@library.lspace.org.invalid>
>writes:
>> In <5182d71b$0$15912$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>, on 05/02/2013
>> at 11:14 PM, "Maarten Wiltink" <maa...@kittensandcats.net> said:
>>
>>>This is fax thinking, carried into the twenty-first century. Badly.
>>
>> I assume that by fax thinking you mean:
>>
>> 1. Run a program and print the output.
>>
>> 2. Fax the output
>>
>> 3. OCR the fax'd output
>>
>> 4. Read the OCR output into another program.
>>
>> My question is, how do you carry that into another century, decade,
>> year, month, day or even hour other than badly?
>You may as well integrate scribes and horseback messengers into
>that process and then you can carry it through a dozen centuries
>badly.
The process as described was sickening enough, TYVM. Is there an
equivalent of RFC 1149 for fax?
at 05:21 PM, Steve VanDevender <ste...@hexadecimal.uoregon.edu>
said:
>Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spam...@library.lspace.org.invalid>
>writes:
>> In <5182d71b$0$15912$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>, on 05/02/2013
>> at 11:14 PM, "Maarten Wiltink" <maa...@kittensandcats.net> said:
>>
>>>This is fax thinking, carried into the twenty-first century. Badly.
>>
>> I assume that by fax thinking you mean:
>>
>> 1. Run a program and print the output.
>>
>> 2. Fax the output
>>
>> 3. OCR the fax'd output
>>
>> 4. Read the OCR output into another program.
>>
>> My question is, how do you carry that into another century, decade,
>> year, month, day or even hour other than badly?
>You may as well integrate scribes and horseback messengers into
>that process and then you can carry it through a dozen centuries
>badly.
equivalent of RFC 1149 for fax?
Wojciech Derechowski
May 6, 2013, 1:01:40 AM5/6/13
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On Mon, 06 May 2013 01:20:16 +0000, Shmuel Metz wrote:
>
> If this is UI, may Bog have mercy on your sole.
>
If, God permitting, there is no God, then praise the Lord, but if there is one,
>
> If this is UI, may Bog have mercy on your sole.
>
God forbid, then don't you dare to tempt His Hand of Protection.
Maarten Wiltink
May 8, 2013, 12:09:48 PM5/8/13
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[...]
Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink
message news:51870916$9$fuzhry+tra$mr2...@news.patriot.net...
[...]
> The process as described was sickening enough, TYVM. Is there an
> equivalent of RFC 1149 for fax?
Who needs an equivalent? All you need is for the pigeon to be flat.
> equivalent of RFC 1149 for fax?
Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink
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