A good laugh about IP addresses in the news
Bruce Tomlin
about some crime that happened, where they apply the usual prime-time
news show melodrama, and talking about IP addresses in an e-mail being
"unique to a computer". My eyes were already rolling. But then they
showed a graphic zooming in on Boston with a bunch of IP addresses
flashing on and off all over the map... A bunch of *RFC1918* addresses,
that is. Well, two of the three address ranges, at least, and zooming in
on 192.168.1.1. Yes, very unique indeed. I think that one is Xvob's IP
address.
Steve VanDevender
Well, obviously everyone should block those evil RFC 1918 addresses in
their firewalls. Show them how this is done in many border router
configurations if they are dubious; if professional network engineers
think it's a good idea, then it must be good for you too.
And don't forget the insidious 127.0.0.1. Anyone using that can get at
_everything_ on your computer, and every computer has that address!
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Steve VanDevender
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:43:39 -0500, Bruce Tomlin
> <bruce#fanbo...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>>A bunch of *RFC1918* addresses,
>>that is. Well, two of the three address ranges, at least, and zooming in
>>on 192.168.1.1. Yes, very unique indeed. I think that one is Xvob's IP
>>address.
>
> At least thats better than the .442 type addresses heard/seen
> elsewhere,
Well, there was the fellow who suggested that we wouldn't be so close to
running out of IPv4 address space now if they hadn't limited the octets
to the range 0-255.
Erwan David
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:43:39 -0500, Bruce Tomlin
> <bruce#fanbo...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>>A bunch of *RFC1918* addresses,
>>that is. Well, two of the three address ranges, at least, and zooming in
>>on 192.168.1.1. Yes, very unique indeed. I think that one is Xvob's IP
>>address.
>
> At least thats better than the .442 type addresses heard/seen
> elsewhere,
Do not IP addresses at TV all begin with 555 ?
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Tai
> Well, there was the fellow who suggested that we wouldn't be so close to
> running out of IPv4 address space now if they hadn't limited the octets
> to the range 0-255.
Obviously an old timer PDP-11 person. I had to explain the
difference between octet and byte to a couple of people. Sure, they
were in diapers just a few years back, but, sheesh.
-Tai
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Tai
> _everything_ on your computer, and every computer has that address!
Oh, Microsoft tried that once...
Peter H. Coffin
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:43:39 -0500, Bruce Tomlin
><bruce#fanbo...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>>that is. Well, two of the three address ranges, at least, and zooming in
>>on 192.168.1.1. Yes, very unique indeed. I think that one is Xvob's IP
>>address.
>
> elsewhere,
I'm not familiar with that one, but 23.75.345.200 sticks in the brain.
(Using a reserved one wasn't good enough? You had to break it obviously
too?)
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Olivier Galibert
> I'm not familiar with that one, but 23.75.345.200 sticks in the brain.
> (Using a reserved one wasn't good enough? You had to break it obviously
> too?)
Redundancy is good, and you know it.
OG.
TimC
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> Steve VanDevender wrote:
>
>>And don't forget the insidious 127.0.0.1. Anyone using that can get at
>>_everything_ on your computer, and every computer has that address!
>
I reckon he's got pretty good taste in music - I'm listening to some
of his Ben Harper right now. I hope the RIAA don't catch me.
--
TimC
Error: Furry Pointer Exception
Steve VanDevender
> While pretending to be roadkill on the InfoBahn, <ste...@hexadecimal.uoregon.edu> scrawled:
>> Well, there was the fellow who suggested that we wouldn't be so close to
>> running out of IPv4 address space now if they hadn't limited the octets
>> to the range 0-255.
>
> Obviously an old timer PDP-11 person. I had to explain the
> difference between octet and byte to a couple of people. Sure, they
> were in diapers just a few years back, but, sheesh.
Now I want to see you attempt to explain the difference between octets
and bytes and how this relates to the PDP-11.
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Seth
Steve VanDevender <ste...@hexadecimal.uoregon.edu> wrote:
>And don't forget the insidious 127.0.0.1. Anyone using that can get at
>_everything_ on your computer,
The elite warez network ("Everything we have is yours.") strikes
again.
Seth
Koos van den Hout
At least 11 years and 2738599 hits on a webcounter can't be wrong.
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Shmuel Metz
at 11:50 AM, Steve VanDevender <ste...@hexadecimal.uoregon.edu> said:
>Now I want to see you attempt to explain the difference between octets
>and bytes and how this relates to the PDP-11.
1. An octet is 8 consecutive bits.
2. Tai probably meant PDP-6 or PDP-10.
Cryptic? Yes, why do you ask?
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09/19/2009
at 09:43 PM, Bruce Tomlin <bruce#fanbo...@127.0.0.1> said:
>I just got a good laugh. CBS is running some story right now, talking
>about some crime that happened, where they apply the usual prime-time
>news show melodrama, and talking about IP addresses in an e-mail being
>"unique to a computer". My eyes were already rolling. But then they
>showed a graphic zooming in on Boston with a bunch of IP addresses
>flashing on and off all over the map... A bunch of *RFC1918* addresses,
Please tell me that you're making that up, and that no newspaper outside
the Capital Beltway could make such an error. Not that I don't believe
you, but I'd rather believe that you made it up.
Dave
> In article <h98nam$6h4$3...@reader1.panix.com>,
>
>> The elite ... strikes again.
Which reminds me, Commander Jameson of Lave is 25 years old this week.
Dave
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[...]
> Which reminds me, Commander Jameson of Lave is 25 years old this week.
... and I'm still merely "Deadly", after all the hours I put into it.
Jim
I once had the 'laser hitting your shields' sound played everytime something
got logged on my firewall. Most amusing, until the next brute-force ssh
attack, whereupon it started to lose its appeal after scarcely three hours.
Jim
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flourishing quite nicely.
Dave
> ... and I'm still merely "Deadly", after all the hours I put into it.
I had a go at Oolite yesterday. Second system I hyperspaced to the space
station turned into another planet. Spining frighteningly quickly.
Bloody Open Source programmers, can't even port a game that fitted into
14kb properly...
Steve VanDevender
> In <h98ht2$26rs$1...@isis.novusordo.net>, on 09/21/2009
> at 11:50 AM, Steve VanDevender <ste...@hexadecimal.uoregon.edu> said:
>
>>Now I want to see you attempt to explain the difference between octets
>>and bytes and how this relates to the PDP-11.
>
> 1. An octet is 8 consecutive bits.
>
> 2. Tai probably meant PDP-6 or PDP-10.
>
> Cryptic? Yes, why do you ask?
I wasn't asking _you_. Now Tai will probably never post a followup full
of humorous misinformation so we can taunt him about his lack of arcane
knowledge of ancient computers.
Bruce Tomlin
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spam...@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:
> Please tell me that you're making that up, and that no newspaper outside
> the Capital Beltway could make such an error. Not that I don't believe
> you, but I'd rather believe that you made it up.
Who said anything about a newspaper? This was prime-time CBS
tell-duh-vision. And I was channel-surfing, for what it's worth.
mikea
A persistent meme on NCIS is that IP addresses are permanent, persistent,
and never change physical location. This enables the techie types on NCIS,
given an IP address, to locate the apartment in which the hardware with
that IP address is located. Ditto for CSI New York and too many other
programs.
--
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lucky if they get gravity."
-- David Cameron Staples' wife to him as he sat yelling
obscenities at the idiot box
Koos van den Hout
> A persistent meme on NCIS is that IP addresses are permanent, persistent,
> and never change physical location. This enables the techie types on NCIS,
> given an IP address, to locate the apartment in which the hardware with
> that IP address is located. Ditto for CSI New York and too many other
> programs.
The really scary part is police employees who are starting to believe
things like this are possible.
Koos
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SteveD
<bruce#fanbo...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>But then they
>showed a graphic zooming in on Boston with a bunch of IP addresses
>flashing on and off all over the map... A bunch of *RFC1918* addresses,
>that is.
Modern equivalent of 555- phone numbers? 99% of viewers wouldn't pick it
up anyway, and perhaps the show's legal department wanted it confirmed
that any IP addresses shown onscreen wouldn't be real-world targets for
anyone with a too much free time on their hands.
Maybe the media's still working out standards on how to fudge onscreen IP
addresses. I've heard of this one, using dotted-decimal numbers greater
than 255 (bad idea), and five instead of four octets (which I could live
with).
So far I can't recall anyone offhand using a real-world IP owned by the
show with something set up to respond on the other end of it, but it may
be because they can't guarantee always having that IP, especially if the
show becomes a long-lasting favorite or switches networks.
-SteveD
James Wilkinson
> Maybe the media's still working out standards on how to fudge onscreen IP
> addresses. I've heard of this one, using dotted-decimal numbers greater
> than 255 (bad idea), and five instead of four octets (which I could live
> with).
I'd love to hear about a fictional bad guy attacking something like
127.64.39.2, and someone in real life imitating him -- successfully...
James
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Peter Corlett
[...]
> It used to be that GPO director exchange numbers of the form 246 80xx were
> used for drama, as many recorded information services resided there.
It's actually been formalised now, and is 496 0xxx these days:
uggc://jjj.bspbz.bet.hx/gryrpbzf/vbv/ahzoref/ahz_qenzn
TimC
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> the various Doctor Who ones, torchwood.org.uk).
I had presumed they were an arm of government.
--
TimC
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spatial anomalies. But the kittens know better. They laugh at my
feeble attempts to fool them. -- barbara in ARK
mikea
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:06:44 -0500, mikea wrote:
>> A persistent meme on NCIS is that IP addresses are permanent, persistent,
>> and never change physical location. This enables the techie types on NCIS,
>> given an IP address, to locate the apartment in which the hardware with
>> that IP address is located. Ditto for CSI New York and too many other
>> programs.
>
>
> Because the PHBs see it on TV Therefore It Must Be True.
Oh, it's even worse than that. It's *Much Worse* -- in two ways:
1) Some jurors (not many, but non-zero) think that this BS is for-real;
and
2) Some cops (not many, but non-zero) think that this BS is for-real, too.
They also think that a 1-pixel image segment can be enlarged to the point
that one can see the venation in the eyeball or read the reflection of a
license plate or some such, and things of that sort. This credulity is said
to be making life Hell for criminalists all across the US.
--
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work (along with that of some hundred thousand other people) is
responsible for having enabled fourteen men to walk on the surface
of another celestial body.
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> Satya <sat...@satyaonline.cjb.net> wrote in
> <slrnhbiq0f...@gort.thesatya.com>:
>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:06:44 -0500, mikea wrote:
>>> A persistent meme on NCIS is that IP addresses are permanent,
>>> persistent, and never change physical location. This enables the
>>> techie types on NCIS, given an IP address, to locate the apartment in
>>> which the hardware with that IP address is located. Ditto for CSI New
>>> York and too many other programs.
>>
>> Fucking idiots, making our jobs harder.
>>
>> Because the PHBs see it on TV Therefore It Must Be True.
Do I need to reiterate my rant about the ubiquitous infinite-resolution
CCTV camera?
> They also think that a 1-pixel image segment can be enlarged to the
> point that one can see the venation in the eyeball or read the
> reflection of a license plate or some such, and things of that sort.
> This credulity is said to be making life Hell for criminalists all
> across the US.
Ah, no I don't, as Uncle Mike did it for me.
Still, these shows have two options when it comes to CCTV cameras:
1) There is a camera, and it provides vital clues which help break the
case, almost always after some of the aforementioned infinite resolution
image processing.
2) There is no camera, or the camera which is there is broken or
otherwise nonfunctional.
I'd like to see a plot with a third option:
3) the camera is present and fully operational. It is directed where it
is supposed to be (which is usually a boring supermarket aisle or right
on the counter, overlooking the shop assistant as much as the customers),
and captures a flash of the action which is completely useless. (ie.,
"Yes, we have the culprit on camera. You see that shadowy blur in the
corner of the screen? That's him. We know that's him because it fits with
the witness testimony. No, there's no more information available. This is
the most information which was captured. No, there's nothing to enhance.
NO WE CAN'T FUCKING WELL 'ZOOM IN' ON THE LOGO ON HIS SNEAKERS: THAT
DETAIL WAS NOT CAPTURED YOU MORON. Sure, I could 'enhance' the image
until you could pretend you could see it, but I may as well draw it on in
crayon, it'll be just as meaningful. Get the fuck out of my office.")
That, I'd like to see.
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> mikea <mi...@mikea.ath.cx> wrote in <k99no6-...@mikea.ath.cx>:
>> A persistent meme on NCIS is that IP addresses are permanent, persistent,
>> and never change physical location. This enables the techie types on NCIS,
>> given an IP address, to locate the apartment in which the hardware with
>> that IP address is located. Ditto for CSI New York and too many other
>> programs.
>
> The really scary part is police employees who are starting to believe
> things like this are possible.
>
> Koos
>
What we need is a film convention that indicates "magic techie stuff
happens, normally over days or weeks, and returns a possibly useful answer -
you need not, and probably would not, understand the details".
Alternatively, find the writer in CSI:* who keeps using the phrase, "I'll
wait for the results." when a character requests an analysis which would
normally take at least two days, and break his fingers.
--
I don't believe in God because I don't believe in Mother Goose.
-- Clarence Darrow
Erwan David
>
> Alternatively, find the writer in CSI:* who keeps using the phrase, "I'll
> wait for the results." when a character requests an analysis which would
> normally take at least two days, and break his fingers.
Remember that a DNA test costs 2000 to 3000 euros and needs 3 weeks to
be completed. That would make the show a bit slow...
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news:slrnhbju...@nowster.eternal-september.org...
[...]
> Proposal to IETF? "IPv6 block for fiction use"
I have a proposal for the size of that block.
(But I'll settle for using a 80ll0cc5 prefix.)
Tebrgwrf,
Maarten Wiltink
mikea
That should work, though I rather like 0xdeadbeef for fictional use.
--
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weather map onto your toast in butter, marmalade, blueberry jam,
and raspberry jam?
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c...@nospam.netunix.com
> use...@vo.id.au (SteveD) wrote:
> > So far I can't recall anyone offhand using a real-world IP owned by the
> > show with something set up to respond on the other end of it, but it may
> > be because they can't guarantee always having that IP, especially if the
> > show becomes a long-lasting favorite or switches networks.
>
> collisions with reality. ;)
Here come the hex pairs with [G-Z] in them.
Peter H. Coffin
> mikea <mi...@mikea.ath.cx> wrote in <k99no6-...@mikea.ath.cx>:
>
>> A persistent meme on NCIS is that IP addresses are permanent,
>> persistent, and never change physical location. This enables the
>> techie types on NCIS, given an IP address, to locate the apartment in
>> which the hardware with that IP address is located. Ditto for CSI New
>> York and too many other programs.
>
> The really scary part is police employees who are starting to believe
> things like this are possible.
I wish they did. They just need to realize that THEY (and the various
TLAs) don't have the magic database. It'd make getting them to subpoena
The Death Start Company given the IP address reported by an auto-login
AIM connection of a stolen laptop a lot faster. (The friend got the
laptop back. Eventually.)
--
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virtually inaccessible vulnerable spot.
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Brian Kantor
>2nd.) And then it'd all turn into another Ruby Ridge, somewhere in the
>red states, three times every day for the next five or so years.
If every g*d-damn user in the world would promise to shoot himself, I'll
offer to buy the ammunition. And help him aim.
Did you know that an Ironport e-mail appliance can't handle
user...@doma.in e-mail subaddressing? Neither did I. Nor, apparently,
did the fuchkopfs now in charge of the campus e-mail system. But that's
what they say Cisco says. The campus solution? "plus-addressing will no
longer be allowed", announced on the day before the changeover. Reason: You don't
need it; no one in the Microsoft Exchange world uses it, and there are
only 37 of you we could find using it in the logs, so it's not needed.
And what fuchkopf at Cisco decided that they'd sell an e-mail appliance
that can't do proper e-mail? He should go shoot himself out of pure shame.
We need to install a bigger flush handle on the internet; it's filling up
with sh1t that won't go away.
- Brian
Brian Kantor
In article <20090922121222....@firedrake.org>,
Roger Burton West <roger+a...@nospam.firedrake.org> wrote:
>Paul Martin wrote:
>
>>warez.zetnet.co.uk still lives.
>
>When I was working at, um, $ISP, we had actual pr0n.$ISP and warez.$ISP
>servers on the basis that it was easier than having the staff going out
>and looking for the stuff. They were in the external DNS, but on a
>non-routeable network.
>
>--
>When cycling here, it helps to apply the "law versus lorry" principle.
>Which carries more weight at the time?
>-- Paul Mc Auley
Niklas Karlsson
>
> We need to install a bigger flush handle on the internet; it's filling up
> with sh1t that won't go away.
ACME Internet Plunger 3000. A heavy duty etherkiller variant, also
available for many other communications standards besides Ethernet.
Niklas
--
For a time, I wrote data analysis code in C on VMS. I drank a lot of
tequila during that time.
-- Mark 'Kamikaze' Hughes in asr
Brian Kantor
><splutter> Are standards slipping here?
Yes.
Paul Martin <p...@nowster.org.uk> wrote:
><splutter> Are standards slipping here?
Yes.
Alexander Schreiber
> On 2009-09-23, Brian Kantor <br...@ucsd.edu> wrote:
>>
>> We need to install a bigger flush handle on the internet; it's filling up
>> with sh1t that won't go away.
>
> ACME Internet Plunger 3000. A heavy duty etherkiller variant, also
> available for many other communications standards besides Ethernet.
Powered by a flux compression generator, none of the weak mains stuff.
HTH,
Alex.
--
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looks like work." -- Thomas A. Edison
Steve VanDevender
> Maarten Wiltink <maa...@kittensandcats.net> wrote in <4aba0ba4$0$83234$e4fe...@news.xs4all.nl>:
>> "Paul Martin" <p...@nowster.org.uk> wrote in message
>> news:slrnhbju...@nowster.eternal-september.org...
>> [...]
>>> Proposal to IETF? "IPv6 block for fiction use"
>>
>> I have a proposal for the size of that block.
>> (But I'll settle for using a 80ll0cc5 prefix.)
>
> That should work, though I rather like 0xdeadbeef for fictional use.
Whatever the prefix, I now want to get a host with an IPv6 address
ending in :bead:edda:dad0:0dad.
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Every day comes, every day goes / 100 years and nobody shows -- Happy Rhodes
Jim
> In article <slrnhbhrj...@wotan.magrathea.local>,
> Jim <j...@magrathea.plus.com> wrote:
> > I once had the 'laser hitting your shields' sound played everytime
> > something got logged on my firewall. Most amusing, until the next
> > brute-force ssh attack, whereupon it started to lose its appeal after
> > scarcely three hours.
>
> Funny, the brute-force ssh attacks only last a few seconds on my
> systems. It's almost as if I have some sort of mechanism in place to
> defend against such things.
Yeah, but this is a home box and, frankly, I just don't care enough.
Jim
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Lionel
> I just got a good laugh. CBS is running some story right now, talking
> about some crime that happened, where they apply the usual prime-time
> news show melodrama, and talking about IP addresses in an e-mail being
> "unique to a computer". My eyes were already rolling. But then they
> showed a graphic zooming in on Boston with a bunch of IP addresses
> flashing on and off all over the map... A bunch of *RFC1918* addresses,
> that is. Well, two of the three address ranges, at least, and zooming in
> on 192.168.1.1. Yes, very unique indeed. I think that one is Xvob's IP
> address.
On the bright side, they might be treating them as the networking
equivalent of 555-XXXX phone numbers.
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---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
Lionel
> Rob Adams <roba...@ozemail.com.au> writes:
>
>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:43:39 -0500, Bruce Tomlin
>> <bruce#fanbo...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>>> A bunch of *RFC1918* addresses,
>>> that is. Well, two of the three address ranges, at least, and zooming in
>>> on 192.168.1.1. Yes, very unique indeed. I think that one is Xvob's IP
>>> address.
>> elsewhere,
>
> Well, there was the fellow who suggested that we wouldn't be so close to
> running out of IPv4 address space now if they hadn't limited the octets
> to the range 0-255.
Oh, that's /special/.
Lionel
> Bruce Tomlin <bruce#fanbo...@127.0.0.1> writes:
>
>> I just got a good laugh. CBS is running some story right now, talking
>> about some crime that happened, where they apply the usual prime-time
>> news show melodrama, and talking about IP addresses in an e-mail being
>> "unique to a computer". My eyes were already rolling. But then they
>> showed a graphic zooming in on Boston with a bunch of IP addresses
>> on 192.168.1.1. Yes, very unique indeed. I think that one is Xvob's IP
>> address.
>
> their firewalls. Show them how this is done in many border router
> configurations if they are dubious; if professional network engineers
> think it's a good idea, then it must be good for you too.
>
> And don't forget the insidious 127.0.0.1. Anyone using that can get at
> _everything_ on your computer, and every computer has that address!
Oh hell yeah, better block that one!
Lionel
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:43:59 -0700, Steve VanDevender
> <ste...@hexadecimal.uoregon.edu> wrote:
>
>> And don't forget the insidious 127.0.0.1. Anyone using that can get at
>> _everything_ on your computer, and every computer has that address!
>
> mirror of my machine, if I ever hunt him down.. by golly...
For a while, I posted with an IP address of 127.56.219.21.
Lionel
> Steve VanDevender wrote:
>
>> And don't forget the insidious 127.0.0.1. Anyone using that can get at
>> _everything_ on your computer, and every computer has that address!
>
Look harder - that site has a ton of movies.
Lionel
> In article <h94bum$2s2d$1...@isis.novusordo.net>,
> Steve VanDevender <ste...@hexadecimal.uoregon.edu> wrote:
>
>> And don't forget the insidious 127.0.0.1. Anyone using that can get at
>> _everything_ on your computer,
>
> again.
I used to be on that list, but that was years ago.
Jim
> Roger Burton West wrote:
> > Steve VanDevender wrote:
> >
> >> And don't forget the insidious 127.0.0.1. Anyone using that can get at
> >> _everything_ on your computer, and every computer has that address!
> >
> > Decent pr0n collection, but I've seen most of it before.
>
> Look harder - that site has a ton of movies.
Pretty good hentai collection as well.
Not so sure about his music collection though - although he's got a
decent collection of Hawkwind, Mot�rhead and Led Zep, I can't help
noticing that there's a "Girls Aloud" track in there.
Jim
--
"Microsoft admitted its Vista operating system was a 'less good
product' in what IT experts have described as the most ambitious
understatement since the captain of the Titanic reported some
slightly damp tablecloths." http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/
Lionel
> In article <slrnhbjms2.6jv....@my-286.myhome.westell.com>,
> Dan Birchall wrote:
>> use...@vo.id.au (SteveD) wrote:
>>> So far I can't recall anyone offhand using a real-world IP owned by the
>>> show with something set up to respond on the other end of it, but it may
>>> be because they can't guarantee always having that IP, especially if the
>>> show becomes a long-lasting favorite or switches networks.
>
>> They should use IPv6 addresses. That way they don't have to worry about
>> collisions with reality. ;)
>
That seems quite reasonable, actually. It's not like they can't spare
the space.
Lionel
> Lionel <imag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Roger Burton West wrote:
>>> Steve VanDevender wrote:
>>>
>>>> And don't forget the insidious 127.0.0.1. Anyone using that can get at
>>>> _everything_ on your computer, and every computer has that address!
>>> Decent pr0n collection, but I've seen most of it before.
>> Look harder - that site has a ton of movies.
>
> Pretty good hentai collection as well.
>
> Not so sure about his music collection though - although he's got a
> decent collection of Hawkwind, Mot�rhead and Led Zep, I can't help
> noticing that there's a "Girls Aloud" track in there.
On the bright side, he's got the Killing Joke discography there.
Shmuel Metz
at 10:19 PM, Gary Barnes <g...@adminspotting.org> said:
>My experience of comparing what-people-think-can-be-done vs.
>what-was-actually-possible is from about 15 years ago.
I recall in the late 1960's when I student asked me why scope couldn't do
something that would have required a time machine. I told he that the
crystal ball on channel 3 was broken.
Several years later my then GF told me that the student had actually
believed[1] that there was a crystal ball on channel 3.
[1] This was not the only time that she told me of someone taking as
a serious response something that was meant as sarcasm. She
didn't seem surprised, possibly due to her stint as director of
user services.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <http://patriot.net/~shmuel> ISO position
Reply to domain Patriot dot net user shmuel+bspfh to contact me.
We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress.
(S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003)
Brian Kantor
>Whatever the prefix, I now want to get a host with an IPv6 address
>ending in :bead:edda:dad0:0dad.
I want :fe:ed:fa:ce:de:ad:be:ef, which is my alltime
favourite 64-bit constant (after 0, of course).
- Brian
Kevin Goebel
<sta...@cs.mu.oz.au.SPAM> wrote:
>in Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:15:17 -0500, mikea in hic loco scripsit:
>> Satya <sat...@satyaonline.cjb.net> wrote in
>> <slrnhbiq0f...@gort.thesatya.com>:
>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:06:44 -0500, mikea wrote:
>>>> A persistent meme on NCIS is that IP addresses are permanent,
>>>> persistent, and never change physical location. This enables the
>>>> techie types on NCIS, given an IP address, to locate the apartment in
>>>> which the hardware with that IP address is located. Ditto for CSI New
>>>> York and too many other programs.
>>> Fucking idiots, making our jobs harder.
>>> Because the PHBs see it on TV Therefore It Must Be True.
>Do I need to reiterate my rant about the ubiquitous infinite-resolution
>CCTV camera?
Please enlarge upon your rant.
Kevin Goebel
David Cameron Staples
My rant is to point out that whenever TLA:Topeka, KS (which stands for
any of NCIS:*, CSI:*, Bones, L&O:*, and anything else of that ilk which
my mind is protecting from ATM), see a CCTV camera, there are two states
it can be in: non-functional, or MOTHERFUCKING MIRACULOUS!!!. It's
amazing how the computer geek du jour can always get that extra bit of
detail out of an image of something hiding in a shadow, which is
reflected in a window across the street, in the rain, through a dirty
shop front, from a decades-old camera, recorded onto one quarter of a
frame on a VHS tape, with a machine which last had its heads cleaned
sometime last millennium (possibly during assembly). And they always run
an "interpolation" program which looks a lot like a progressive JPEG
being displayed, and the result is always crystal clear, with no
fuzziness, no artifacts, as if it was a HD image to begin with (no,
really?), and they could always zoom in... I mean /interpolate and
enhance/ just a little bit more with a bit more processing time (which
turns out in practice to be about enough time for some witty bon mots and
Serious Discussion of the Mindbogglingly Fucking Obvious Because We Don't
Want The Audience To Miss Any Of The Half Hour Googling^W^W^W Serious
Research We Did On This Bit), and the vital company logo/witty t-shirt/
scuff on the shoe/retina print is always clear as day from an area of the
image which, were you to go back to the original, would be less than one
pixel, and that's probably noise in any case, just stop pretending this
has anything to do with science or technology or physics or *anything at
all this side of Hogwarts*, give up and just admit that it's done by
fucking magic, it's not like anyone responsible for any of the scripts
understand a word of it anyway, so they may as well say that they got the
image by reversing the polarity of the neutron flow, and JUST WENT BACK
IN TIME AND TOOK A BETTER PHOTO. It makes more sense than the bullshit
they foist on their audience, anyway.
Except for _House_. But then, I'm not a doctor, nor a medical malpractice
landshark, and I imagine they have a similar rant of their own for that
show.
You mean that rant?
--
David Cameron Staples | staples AT unimelb DOT edu DOT au
Melbourne University | School of Engineering | IT Support
some people are talking about virgins, some people are talking about math,
someone said something about God, and _I_ thought you were still talking
about typology. -- bash.org/?82196
TimC
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> Lionel <imag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Roger Burton West wrote:
>> > Steve VanDevender wrote:
>> >
>> >> And don't forget the insidious 127.0.0.1. Anyone using that can get at
>> >> _everything_ on your computer, and every computer has that address!
>> >
>> > Decent pr0n collection, but I've seen most of it before.
>>
>> Look harder - that site has a ton of movies.
>
> Pretty good hentai collection as well.
I'm sure he has some goats as well, but I haven't checked.
--
TimC
When I'M trying to get somebody fired, I always walk a mile in their
shoes first. That way, when I get them fired and they get all angry
with me, I'm a mile away, and I'VE GOT THEIR SHOES! HAW HAW!
--Beable van Polasm, alt.religion.kibology
Dave
...
> scuff on the shoe/retina print is always clear as day from an area of the
> image which, were you to go back to the original, would be less than one
> pixel, and that's probably noise in any case, just stop pretending this
> has anything to do with science or technology or physics or *anything at
> all this side of Hogwarts*, give up and just admit that it's done by
Which I think first saw done in Blade Runner, of course. About the only
amusing bit of the recent resurrection of Red Dwarf was a piss-take
of this sort of thing:
uggc://jjj.lbhghor.pbz/jngpu?i=XUgko_ltDUb&srngher=eryngrq
About 6:30 mins in.
The very worst example I've seen of it is in Enemy of the State where
the magic security camera's image can be rotated about the z-axis so we
can see what someone is holding behind their back.
> Except for _House_. But then, I'm not a doctor, nor a medical malpractice
> landshark, and I imagine they have a similar rant of their own for that
> show.
Indeed - even I can spot them doing that in House quite often, and I've
not a clue what they're talking about most of the time. Usually it's due
to the structure of the show and the need to catastrophically fail with
their first treatment based on some random guess before House deduces
what they actually have wrong with them - and confirms it with a simple
blood test.
Dave
--
millibrachiate tentacular coelenterates
TimC
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> ...
>> scuff on the shoe/retina print is always clear as day from an area of the
>> image which, were you to go back to the original, would be less than one
>> pixel, and that's probably noise in any case, just stop pretending this
>> has anything to do with science or technology or physics or *anything at
>> all this side of Hogwarts*, give up and just admit that it's done by
>> fucking magic...
>
> Which I think first saw done in Blade Runner, of course. About the only
> amusing bit of the recent resurrection of Red Dwarf
What which where who?
There's currently a repeat of a series which I apparently missed the
first N times around on TV.
Ah, Kochanski.
I feel for Lister in the same way that I feel for Wile E Coyote or
Sylvester never getting the road runner or Tweety.
--
TimC
MacOSX: Sort of like a pedigree persian cat. Very sleek, very
sexy, but a little too prone to going cross-eyed, biting you on
your thumb and then throwing up on your trousers. -- Jim in ASR
Dave
>> amusing bit of the recent resurrection of Red Dwarf
>
> What which where who?
A three-part mini series ('season 9') called 'Back to Earth' in which
they appear to turn up in our universe and discover they're fictional
characters in a sci-fi sitcom called 'Red Dwarf'. It's a pretty horribly
contrived affair and not particular good.
Comissioned especially for the digital station 'Dave' (mostly known for
the endless re-runs of TopGear). It is very much not a BBC production.
> I feel for Lister in the same way that I feel for Wile E Coyote or
> Sylvester never getting the road runner or Tweety.
The first book actually made my quite sympathetic for Rimmer.
Nomen Publicus
>> landshark, and I imagine they have a similar rant of their own for that
>> show.
>
> Indeed - even I can spot them doing that in House quite often, and I've
> not a clue what they're talking about most of the time. Usually it's due
> to the structure of the show and the need to catastrophically fail with
> their first treatment based on some random guess before House deduces
> what they actually have wrong with them - and confirms it with a simple
> blood test.
> Dave
Spend a while in hospital and you find that the staff like the show in the
same way we might like the BOFH but it's all a bit divorced from reality.
For example, no hospital would allow _doctors_ to run the MRI machine or
let them to do their own lab work. There are highly qualified and
underpaid technicians who do those jobs...
--
"Attack of the Unsinkable Rubber Ducks"
Christopher Brookmyre
Graham Reed
> I'm not familiar with that one, but 23.75.345.200 sticks in the brain.
> (Using a reserved one wasn't good enough? You had to break it obviously
> too?)
I've used systems where the appropriate library would take addresses
like that just fine. It did what you'd expect would happen if you
stuffed more than a byte into a byte's worth of storage.
Those same routines would also happily take class-based addresses. Oh
the joy of 10.786504....
And I've used a system where you actually had to _enter_ addresses
like that. If it was a Class A, you only got to enter one dot.
--
"I thought we'd be dead by step two, so this is going great!"
-- Verne, in "Over the Hedge"
Seth
Satya <sat...@satyaonline.cjb.net> wrote:
>Fucking idiots, making our jobs harder.
>
>Because the PHBs see it on TV Therefore It Must Be True.
But it's so profitable when you're the only one who can give them the
right combination of what they want and need (and persuade them that
it's really what they want).
Seth
Seth
David Cameron Staples <sta...@cs.mu.oz.au.SPAM> wrote:
>My rant is to point out that whenever TLA:Topeka, KS (which stands for
>any of NCIS:*, CSI:*, Bones, L&O:*, and anything else of that ilk which
>my mind is protecting from ATM), see a CCTV camera, there are two states
>it can be in: non-functional, or MOTHERFUCKING MIRACULOUS!!!.
If you want miraculous, try the surveillance satellite in Enemy of the
State which could not only see faces and read license plates, but
could be told where to have focussed five minutes ago.
Seth
TimC
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> spin-off/sequel with the leads or accessory characters
> "discovering"/"time-travelling"/"colonising" Earth. Why? Galactica 1980, I'm
> looking at you. And your flying motorbikes.
How on Earth do you countersteer a flying motorbike?
--
TimC
What did you type in wrong to get it to crash?
Kevin Goebel
<sta...@cs.mu.oz.au.SPAM> wrote:
Would you mind expanding that point, please?
Kevin Goebel
TimC
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
Ah, so they have a süper-sekrit[TM] optical interferometry network and
store the full UV data (ooh, zetabyte storage arrays!) for later
offline analyses.
--
TimC
I haven't lost my mind -- it's backed up on tape somewhere. --unknown
Jim
> Ah, so they have a s�per-sekrit[TM] optical interferometry network and
> store the full UV data (ooh, zetabyte storage arrays!) for later
> offline analyses.
Either that or they have TiVo.
Jim
> >> > Decent pr0n collection, but I've seen most of it before.
> >>
> >> Look harder - that site has a ton of movies.
> >
> > Pretty good hentai collection as well.
>
> I'm sure he has some goats as well, but I haven't checked.
After checking pretty damn thoroughly, I can assure you he hasn't.
Alan J. Wylie
> For some reason, the attackers seem to fail to get a TCP ACK after the
> third attempt on mine.
Hmmm.
# wc -l /etc/<elided>
49889 /etc/<elided>
Perhaps I ought to open a bottle of whisky to celebrate when it
hits 50k.
--
Alan J. Wylie http://www.wylie.me.uk/
Lionel
> TimC <tcon...@no.spam.accepted.here-astro.swin.edu.au> wrote:
>
>>>>> Decent pr0n collection, but I've seen most of it before.
>>>> Look harder - that site has a ton of movies.
>>> Pretty good hentai collection as well.
>> I'm sure he has some goats as well, but I haven't checked.
>
> After checking pretty damn thoroughly, I can assure you he hasn't.
So /you/ say...
Jim
> Jim wrote:
> > TimC <tcon...@no.spam.accepted.here-astro.swin.edu.au> wrote:
> >
> >>>>> Decent pr0n collection, but I've seen most of it before.
> >>>> Look harder - that site has a ton of movies.
> >>> Pretty good hentai collection as well.
> >> I'm sure he has some goats as well, but I haven't checked.
> >
> > After checking pretty damn thoroughly, I can assure you he hasn't.
>
> So /you/ say...
Go on - take a look yourself!
Marc Haber
>Maarten Wiltink <maa...@kittensandcats.net> wrote in <4aba0ba4$0$83234$e4fe...@news.xs4all.nl>:
>> "Paul Martin" <p...@nowster.org.uk> wrote in message
>> news:slrnhbju...@nowster.eternal-september.org...
>> [...]
>>> Proposal to IETF? "IPv6 block for fiction use"
>>
>> I have a proposal for the size of that block.
>> (But I'll settle for using a 80ll0cc5 prefix.)
>
>That should work, though I rather like 0xdeadbeef for fictional use.
I would of course need to contain 555 as as substring.
Greetings
Marc
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Richard Bos
> On 2009-09-25, Satya (aka Bruce)
> > Galactica 1980, I'm looking at you. And your flying motorbikes.
>
> How on Earth do you countersteer a flying motorbike?
Ask the Ewoks.
Richard
Richard Bos
> Roger Burton West wrote:
> > Steve VanDevender wrote:
> >
> >> And don't forget the insidious 127.0.0.1. Anyone using that can get at
> >> _everything_ on your computer, and every computer has that address!
> >
> > Decent pr0n collection, but I've seen most of it before.
>
> Look harder - that site has a ton of movies.
Funny - from here, it doesn't even allow any useable connection.
Richard
mikea
It's really weird that the guy has the same things I do. I guess my
tastes aren't that unusual after all.
--
The OnOff star is really a party strobe left over from the Powers'
last get-together; they happen once per turn of the Galaxy.
Brian Kantor
>>>CCTV camera?
OTOH, less than six months after we published the research paper on
photographic key duplication, CBS used a very similar plot point in their
'dumb3rs' show. And their graphics were much shinier! than ours.
No, AFAIK, we didn't get any money for that.
- Brian