No, we may not "chat a minute"
Mike Sphar
Got this rather strange message today. Anyone else get this? I can't tell
if it's a poor example of spam or just some weirdo.
>To: mi...@matches.com
>Subject: Request
>From: <some luser>
>Date: 7 May 2000 21:40:13 -0000
>
>Hello, I noticed that you are also using the Internet, may we chat a minute?
>
>If not please delete.
--
Mike Sphar http://mikey.sanjoseweb.com mi...@matches.com
You know, when a tomato grows out of your head, it gets you thinking.
-- The Tick
Dances With Crows
<<NQwWOeEYTPYOj0oK=JBEM3...@4ax.com>> shouted forth into the ether:
>
>Got this rather strange message today. Anyone else get this? I can't tell
>if it's a poor example of spam or just some weirdo.
>
>>To: mi...@matches.com
>>Subject: Request
>>From: <some luser>
>>Date: 7 May 2000 21:40:13 -0000
>>
>>Hello, I noticed that you are also using the Internet, may we chat a minute?
>>
>>If not please delete.
Spam, unless the same weirdo sent the exact same message to me and 3 or 4
friends about 4 months ago. Or it could be some sort of mating call
analogue for lusers who find IRC too complex. I deleted the thing a long
time ago...
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid,
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| as I have to run nothing but a
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| burp in the butt. --MegaHAL
Steve VanDevender
> Got this rather strange message today. Anyone else get this? I can't tell
> if it's a poor example of spam or just some weirdo.
>
> >To: mi...@matches.com
> >Subject: Request
> >From: <some luser>
> >Date: 7 May 2000 21:40:13 -0000
> >
> >Hello, I noticed that you are also using the Internet, may we chat a minute?
> >
> >If not please delete.
>
> --
> Mike Sphar http://mikey.sanjoseweb.com mi...@matches.com
> You know, when a tomato grows out of your head, it gets you thinking.
> -- The Tick
Ah, yes, mlgnet.com. I put them in my spam blocks long ago. Check out
their web page that lets lusers spam via a web form.
--
Steve VanDevender "I ride the big iron" http://jcomm.uoregon.edu/~stevev
ste...@efn.org PGP key fingerprint=929FB79734DF8CC0 210DA447510FF93B
"bash awk grep perl sed df du, du-du du-du,
vi troff su fsck rm * halt LART LART LART!" -- the Swedish BOFH
Rob Adams
>
>Got this rather strange message today. Anyone else get this? I can't tell
>if it's a poor example of spam or just some weirdo.
>
>>To: mi...@matches.com
>>Subject: Request
>>From: <some luser>
>>Date: 7 May 2000 21:40:13 -0000
>>
>>Hello, I noticed that you are also using the Internet, may we chat a minute?
>>
>>If not please delete.
That *does* look kinda familiar, Im sure I saw that recently, (and
ignored it).
Rob.
--
Email header munged figure this out..
robadams (at) ozemail {dit} com (dit) au
Warning: Some of my best mistakes are yet to be made.
Chris Johnson
<ste...@efn.org> wrote:
>Ah, yes, mlgnet.com. I put them in my spam blocks long ago. Check out
>their web page that lets lusers spam via a web form.
Ye fscking gods.
6 words. "Soylent Pink is made from spammers!" *ahhh* a man can dream...
Jinx_tigr
(aka Chris Johnson)
Chris King
Johnson <jinx...@sover.net> writes
> Ye fscking gods.
>
> 6 words. "Soylent Pink is made from spammers!" *ahhh* a man can dream...
But what would you do with it ? The stuff would be too dangerous to eat
(spammer prions !!), you wouldn't want it cluttering up your local land-
fill, and if we shot it into space, the aliens would probably wipe us
out for polluting the solar system.
Spammers are a tenacious lot, and even in death they'd be difficult to
dispose of.
Chris
--
Chris King
ch...@csking.demon.co.uk
http://www.csking.demon.co.uk
Andrews
>In article <jinx6568-080...@arc2a145.bf.sover.net>, Chris
>Johnson <jinx...@sover.net> writes
>> Ye fscking gods.
>>
>> 6 words. "Soylent Pink is made from spammers!" *ahhh* a man can dream...
>
>But what would you do with it ? The stuff would be too dangerous to eat
>(spammer prions !!), you wouldn't want it cluttering up your local land-
>fill, and if we shot it into space, the aliens would probably wipe us
>out for polluting the solar system.
>
The film _Jaws_ was on the television recently. Perhaps converting
spammers to sharkshit would be useful.
-Greg
--
::::::::::::::::::: Greg Andrews ge...@wco.com :::::::::::::::::::
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Satyajit Phanse
>But what would you do with it ? The stuff would be too dangerous to eat
>(spammer prions !!), you wouldn't want it cluttering up your local land-
>fill, and if we shot it into space, the aliens would probably wipe us
>out for polluting the solar system.
>
>dispose of.
The sun is a large target.
--
Satya.
Paul Boven
Ah, yes.. spammers.. and a Sun with their default sendmail config?
No, thank you. Been there, done that, got the free coupons, CDroms,
lists of email-addresses, viagra-pills, MLM-opportunities, and yes,
even the T-shirt.
Paul Boven.
[1] Why doesn't anyone send UCEs for something usefull, like the Bat Book?
Going to a shop to get it seemed a bit old-fashioned, but I was in a hurry.
--
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After playing the guitar for a month now I still haven't figured out
why a guitar has 6 strings, while I have only 5 fingers to play them.
Paul Boven, <p.b...@chello.nl> PE1NUT QRV 145.575
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~
Justin Chandler
wrote:
>No, thank you. Been there, done that, got the free coupons, CDroms,
>lists of email-addresses, viagra-pills, MLM-opportunities, and yes,
>even the T-shirt.
*SNARF*
-=Justin=-
No, thank you. Been there, done that, got the free coupons, CDroms,
lists of email-addresses, viagra-pills, MLM-opportunities, and yes,
even the T-shirt. -Paul Boven.
Nix
> On Mon, 8 May 2000 23:51:08 +0100, Chris King <ch...@csking.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >But what would you do with it ? The stuff would be too dangerous to eat
> >(spammer prions !!), you wouldn't want it cluttering up your local land-
> >fill, and if we shot it into space, the aliens would probably wipe us
> >out for polluting the solar system.
> >
> >Spammers are a tenacious lot, and even in death they'd be difficult to
> >dispose of.
>
> The sun is a large target.
Ugh. No thanks. If we just drop 'em in, we'll have spammer ions washing
over us sooner or later. About the only way to do them in *solidly*
would be to give them near-c velocity and lob *that* at Sol. Hopefully
they'd penetrate most of the way to the core, and then it'd be a good
million years before any spammer-derived light washed over us.
--
`Q: Why did they deprecate a.out support in linux?
A: Because a nasty coff is bad for your elf.' --- James Simmons
Mike Andrews
: sat...@satyaonline.cjb.net (Satyajit Phanse) writes:
:> On Mon, 8 May 2000 23:51:08 +0100, Chris King <ch...@csking.demon.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
:> >Spammers are a tenacious lot, and even in death they'd be difficult to
:> >dispose of.
:>
:> The sun is a large target.
: Ugh. No thanks. If we just drop 'em in, we'll have spammer ions washing
: over us sooner or later. About the only way to do them in *solidly*
: would be to give them near-c velocity and lob *that* at Sol. Hopefully
: they'd penetrate most of the way to the core, and then it'd be a good
: million years before any spammer-derived light washed over us.
Once you've stripped the spammers down to their component atoms, and
blown a few electrons loose from _those_, it's pretty hard to tell
them apart from non-spammer atoms 'n' ions. It's when the stuff
starts agglomerating into compounds and then into something like a
life form that you need to worry.
--
The problem with sendmail is not that it has too few features.
-- Alan J Rosenthal, in alt.sysadmin.recovery
Steve VanDevender
> Ugh. No thanks. If we just drop 'em in, we'll have spammer ions washing
> over us sooner or later. About the only way to do them in *solidly*
> would be to give them near-c velocity and lob *that* at Sol. Hopefully
> they'd penetrate most of the way to the core, and then it'd be a good
> million years before any spammer-derived light washed over us.
Mostly you'd just make some big solar flares. There's little hope of
getting the luser anywhere near the core (cue the "relativistic luser
strikes the atmosphere" thread).
Spammers are made of the same atoms we are, and are even almost entirely
biologically similar; the differences are mostly in brain function. I
say we remove the brains (and dispose of them carefully) and try to
figure out how to make those body remote controls like McCoy used on
Spock when Spock's brain got stolen. It'll take a lot of
experimentation, but we've got plenty of spammers. Probably enough that
once we perfect the remote devices, we can give every BOFH his own
remote-controlled luser.
Eddie Buckley
> 6 words. "Soylent Pink is made from spammers!" *ahhh* a man can dream...
*Snarf*
Eddie
--
6 words. "Soylent Pink is made from spammers!" *ahhh* a man can dream...
-- Chris Johnson
--
6 words. "Soylent Pink is made from spammers!" *ahhh* a man can dream...
-- Chris Johnson
Eddie Buckley
Simon Cozens
>Chris Johnson <jinx...@sover.net> wrote:
>> 6 words. "Soylent Pink is made from spammers!" *ahhh* a man can dream...
>
>*Snarf*
You forgot your ObASR. But that's because you're obviously a luser.
*plonk*
ObASR: I now know of one company's extranet[1] site which is, as it
should be, password protected. Except, the username is the name of the
company. And the password is the name of the site. There are lusers, and
there are lusers.
[1] If that's really a meaningful term.
--
Grr... don't get me started on Wagner. The man couldn't resolve a
dominant seventh to a tonic with two musical dictionaries open to the
word "resolution", and a copy of anything by Muddy Waters.
- Eric the Read, in the monastery.
Kirrily 'Skud' Robert
>
>ObASR: I now know of one company's extranet[1] site which is, as it
>should be, password protected. Except, the username is the name of the
>company. And the password is the name of the site. There are lusers, and
>there are lusers.
I know of a major Melbourne-based Internet services company (not an ISP,
however) whose "intranet" had a similar feature. Except that it had
*no* username or password required.
Now, would you entrust your domain name registration to someone with
that sort of bogon field?
K.
--
Kirrily 'Skud' Robert - sk...@infotrope.net - http://infotrope.net/
"you couldn't get a clue if you were soaked in clue pheromone
in clue bondage gear on the clue mating grounds during clue
mating season surrounded by horny clues." -- sn
Malcolm Ray
wrote:
>Simon Cozens wrote:
>>
>>ObASR: I now know of one company's extranet[1] site which is, as it
>>should be, password protected. Except, the username is the name of the
>>company. And the password is the name of the site. There are lusers, and
>>there are lusers.
>
>I know of a major Melbourne-based Internet services company (not an ISP,
>however) whose "intranet" had a similar feature. Except that it had
>*no* username or password required.
>
>Now, would you entrust your domain name registration to someone with
>that sort of bogon field?
Pah, domain name registration comes with its own bogon flux. Some
days I think that, when I became a DNS administrator, they forgot to
issue me the regulation big floppy shoes and red nose. Today's DNS
annoyance is an organisation we primary for, who turn out to have set
up their own primary some months ago without informing us. Of course,
its zone data have diverged from ours; of course, they probably think
'delegation' is when you send the temp to make the coffee, so the
outside world knows nothing of this server. They also asked us
(somewhat huffily) why we had broken another zone, since they are
unable to look up a certain important name in it. A fair question,
marred only by the fact that we don't provide nameservice for that
zone, and haven't for the past 15 months: because *they* asked us to
transfer it to another ISP.
--
Malcolm Ray University of London Computer Centre
Eddie Buckley
> A double post _and_ a double sig. And the only content a snarf.
My apologies for my actions and temporary lack of clue.
Explanation: It was a very long day, I had 5 hours sleep in the last
two days. Just after sending the message a realized it would have a
double sig. So I resent the message with the sig the right way and with
a Supersedes header to replace my original post. Your server must ignore
this header.
As for the lack of an ObASR, I have no excuse (except for the
aforementioned lack of sleep). I will now apply the self-LART and
hang my head in shame.
ObASR: I get an attachment, an M$ word file, ~4.5 MB, from the accounts
email address. I look at the From: line, over 700 recipients, all local.
So thats over 3 GB of wasted mail spool. Never mind that all of our
customers are dialup lusers (who will probably just call in and say
"There's a large email in my mailbox, can you please delete it" instead
of figuring out how to deal with this themselves) and most of them didn't
have Word anyway so it may as well be written in ancient Bajoran.
So after hacking up a perl script to expunge this email from the spool
I go to find out who sent this and why.
Apparently $SUMMER_STUDENT[0] is told by one of The Others[1] to prepare
a form to send to the custome^Wlusers. He makes his form in word complete
with lots of graphics, bad formatting, and multiple "novelty" fonts.
He had first tried (twice) to send it to the 'allusers' address but
Majordomo is set with a 50K limit for messages and bounced it Sendmail
is set with a considerably larger message size threshold.
He then sent it every email address in the accounts database[2] and
every local address in the Outhouse address book, including support
addresses, postmaster, abuse[3] and himself. I asked him why he didn't
put it on the FTP swerver and send the URL to 'allusers' instead and
he says "I thought this way would be easier." Arrgh.
Later I talked to the Other who told him to do it and he said that he
told him to make an HTML mailto: form and put it on the web swerver
and send out the URL. $SUMMER_STUDENT said "Oh, I didn't know what he
meant" Me: "Then why didn't you ask what he meant?" *boggle*.
[0] This is the guy that once told lusers: "Yeah, they're upgrading
the POP3 server but you can just use $OTHER_ISPS server. It's the
same server"
[1] This is what the people that run this place are referred to as,
Not a reference to the TV show.
[2] I'm picturing him getting carpal-tunnel syndrome form excessive
cut-and-paste. *snicker*
[3] Insert irony here
Eddie -- eddie @ sjfn . nb . ca [Remove spaces to send mail]
--
6 words. "Soylent Pink is made from spammers!" *ahhh* a man can dream...
-- Chris Johnson
Mike Andrews
: Spammers are made of the same atoms we are, and are even almost entirely
: biologically similar; the differences are mostly in brain function. I
: say we remove the brains (and dispose of them carefully) and try to
: figure out how to make those body remote controls like McCoy used on
: Spock when Spock's brain got stolen. It'll take a lot of
: experimentation, but we've got plenty of spammers. Probably enough that
: once we perfect the remote devices, we can give every BOFH his own
: remote-controlled luser.
"Why are you shaving that part of my head?"
"So we can reanimate the body after the execution."
--
"Tam byl, to delal, futbolka byla defitsit..." [2]
[2] BTDT, T-shirts were in short supply
-- bee...@euro.cauce.org (Beebit),
in news.admin.net-abuse.email
Juergen Nieveler
@news.flash.net>:
>
>"Why are you shaving that part of my head?"
> "So we can reanimate the body after the execution."
>
"Nothing wrong with thith brain that a good thunderthorm cannot fix"
SCNR :-)
--
Juergen Nieveler
Support the ban of Dihydrogen Monoxide: http://www.dhmo.org/
"The people united can never be ignited!"- Sgt. Colon, Ankh-Morpork Watch
PGP-Key available under www.netcologne.de/~nc-nievelju/
Eddie Buckley
> A double post _and_ a double sig. And the only content a snarf.
My apologies for my actions and temporary lack of clue.
Explanation: It was a very long day, I had 5 hours sleep in the last
two days. Just after sending the message a realized it would have a
double sig. So I resent the message with the sig the right way and with
a Supersedes header to replace my original post (I just checked Deja and
I spelled it Supercedes, DOH!. $TELCO's swerver must support both.)
Eddie Buckley
> Wow. You must be *really* sorry to have posted this twice.
I cancelled my original reply because I didn't realize that I
spelled the header wrong and had originally said that maybe Alan's
swerver igonres this header (which it probably does). The cancel
message probably hasn't made it there yet.
> Free clue: Supersedes is ignored most places these days.
> Don't rely on it.
I did not know that. Thanks. I'm a mail/web admin and don't have to
(or wish to) take care of any NNTP hosts so I really don't know much
about news swervers.
> Far less embarassing to just make your
> mistakes and live with them.
<egg on face>
So I've learned.
Eddie
D. Joseph Creighton
}Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril
}that Eddie Buckley did write:
}>Alan Bellingham <al...@lspace.org> wrote:
}>> A double post _and_ a double sig. And the only content a snarf.
}>
}>My apologies for my actions and temporary lack of clue.
}
}
}mistakes and live with them.
Yeah, after all, someone made adb and we live with him...
<gdr>
--
"Experience is recognising what didn't work last time either." - Anon.
D. Joseph Creighton [ESTP] | Programmer Analyst, Database Technologies, IST
Joe_Cr...@UManitoba.CA | University of Manitoba Winnipeg, MB, Canada, eh?
Mike Andrews
: I'm feeling a bit tender facially, today. I shaved off my beard. Eight
: years I'd had that.
You, too? I'd had mine since 1981. I hope it's not something that's
going around.
--
"I once successfully declined a departmental retreat, saying that on that
day I planned instead to advance." -- Alan J. Rosenthal, ASR
Jack Twilley
[... shaving off one's beard ...]
Matt> Just the opposite here. Just started to grow some hair on the
Matt> face[1] to keep people busy wondering if I'm gonna become a
Matt> recluse and begin to compose my manifesto in a cabin in the
Matt> woods. And it's itching like hell on the neck.
Around Thanksgiving I promised a customer that their hardware would
work as expected, or else I wouldn't shave until it did.
I looked a little too much like Ted K. for my own good in the
Christmas family pictures.
Matt> My real problem is that I've got a few spots it won't grow.
Matt> I'll have to do a comb-over.
I've got the spotty thing too. During one of my foolish attempts to
grow a beard, my mother once told me that I looked like "a dog with
the mange".
Matt> [1] Since it refuses to grow at all above my ears.
Matt> -Matt.
Jack.
--
Jack Twilley
jmt at tbe dot net
http colon slash slash www dot tbe dot net slash tilde jmt slash
Justin The Cynical
wrote:
->Chris Johnson <jinx...@sover.net> wrote:
->> 6 words. "Soylent Pink is made from spammers!" *ahhh* a man can dream...
->
->*Snarf*
Hoy, if the P/S in the box hadn't died in interesting ways and caused fsck
to complain once a new P/S was installed, I'd think that the three copies
of this I've seen in the news spool today was actually there.
ObASR: The P/S. Replace video card in box. Open up P/S to clean fan and
make it spin again[1]. All is happy. Button machine up, apply power.
Box starts to make happy booting noises, then reboots, twice. P/S starts
making electrical-type noises during said reboots. Kill power, check
connections, hit the Big Switch(tm). Nothing. Open P/S, find crispy looking
bits, bits that fall apart when prodded.
Shell out $40 U.S. at Fry's[2] for a new and larger wattage P/S. Replace,
power up, see that nothing appears to be letting out it's smoke. Boot
*NIX, and see fsck bitch and fix. Now the news spool has a few corrupted
articles. Corruption runs from blank From: entried in SLRN to headers
outright fooked up.
Down, not across.
[1] Was full of cruft and dust bunnies/puppies.
[2] Well, it was the only kit shop that was open at ~7PM/1900 hours...
--
"This is the *NIX version of the 'ILOVEVYOU' worm. It runs on the honor
system. Forward this to everyone in your address book, and randomly delete
some of your files." - Unknown
Justin The Cynical - cyn...@linuxstart.com
Darrell Fuhriman
> Spammers are made of the same atoms we are, and are even almost entirely
> biologically similar; the differences are mostly in brain function. I
> say we remove the brains (and dispose of them carefully) and try to
Fusion Torches. The best of both worlds. :)
Darrell
Mike Andrews
: Steve VanDevender <ste...@efn.org> writes:
Well, really, a plasma torch would do the job quite nicely, if it
were big enough. But big enough, for the sheer quantity of Genus
Spammer we'd have to deal with, is Real Fscking Big, and the power
demand would be, well, noticeable.
OTOH, after we LART the first few million of them, maybe the
rest'll get the idea and turn to something more useful, like
feeding themselves to cockroaches.
Joe Zeff
wrote:
>try to
>figure out how to make those body remote controls like McCoy used on
>Spock when Spock's brain got stolen.
Maybe we should just ask Igor. If he can't do it, maybe his brother
Igor, or their cousin Igor can mange.
--
Joe Zeff
The Guy With the Sideburns
*Disclaimer: following the above advice constitutes
your consent to be classified under the clinical
definition of moron.
http://www.lasfs.org http://home.earthlink.net/~sidebrnz
Justin Chandler
wrote:
>Shell out $40 U.S. at Fry's[2] for a new and larger wattage P/S.
Is Fry's a national chain, and, if so, why isn't there one near me? I
feel left out. What makes it worse is my dad is currently consluting
in California, and he keeps filling my head with dreams of kit as far
as the eye can see.
-=Justin=-
If you see a long line of rats streaming off of a ship, the correct
assumption is *not* "gosh, I bet that's a real nice boat now that
those rats are gone".
--Mike Sphar
Jenny Holmberg
> Free clue: Supersedes is ignored most places these days.
> Don't rely on it. Far less embarassing to just make your
> mistakes and live with them.
Nah. Edit the message on the local spool before innxmit goes off with
it.
--
Jenny With the Axe, and the Temper http://www.algonet.se/~jenny-h/
#include <std_disclaimer.h>
"You are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else."
--Ambassador Delenn, B5
Juergen Nieveler
<slrn8i5t...@manlap.zetnet.co.uk>:
>
>>"Nothing wrong with thith brain that a good thunderthorm cannot fix"
>
>>SCNR :-)
>
>Too easy. The fact you haven't got a speech impediment gives it away.
>
Actually, it was just another PTerry-Quote. Anybody recognize the book?
Juergen Nieveler
<slrn8i82fi...@cx1003551-a.elcjn1.sdca.home.com>:
>
>The Fifth Elephant has something similar on page 290: "Nothing wrong
>with my brain that a good bolt of lightning won't thort out."
Which of course was said by Igor. No, it was Igor... or was it Igor? :-)
Justin Chandler
wrote:
>In article <392381e7.43255841@news-server>,
>Justin Chandler <sor...@NOSPAMlinuxmail.org> wrote:
>: -=Justin=-
>: If you see a long line of rats streaming off of a ship, the correct
>: assumption is *not* "gosh, I bet that's a real nice boat now that
>: those rats are gone".
>: --Mike Sphar
>
>Why haven't you fixed your sig separator yet? More to the point,
>why hasn't anyone else complained?
>
>--Dave
Um.... Lunar Disturbances?
Better?
-=Justin=-
No, try not. Do....or do not. There is no try. -- Yoda, Jedi Master.
Simon Cozens
>Um.... Lunar Disturbances?
>
>Better?
>
>-=Justin=-
>No, try not. Do....or do not. There is no try. -- Yoda, Jedi Master.
Why not try looking at *every other fscking sig here*?
--
"Little else matters than to write good code."
-- Karl Lehenbauer
Mike Sphar
once write the following? Read the book:
>Is Fry's a national chain, and, if so, why isn't there one near me? I
>feel left out.
I'm pretty sure they're not a national chain. They're mainly around
California, though there may be a few scattered in other Western states.
Hey, why not just check out their web site to find out where they're stores
are located? Oh, I'll tell you why, because they DON'T FSCKING HAVE ONE!
They're the biggest computer store chain in Northern California, possibly
in all of California, and they can't be bother to put up one single fscking
page.
Frys is one of those places you consistently hate, and yet still find
yourself going there all the time. (Did I mention I currently live just a
couple blocks from the location of the original Frys grocery store?)
>What makes it worse is my dad is currently consluting
>in California, and he keeps filling my head with dreams of kit as far
>as the eye can see.
Not to mention clueless unhelpful salespeople, and loud fscking
"presentations" by some Maytag marketing wank every 3 minutes.
Oh, and Furbies. Miles and miles of Furbies.
--
Mike Sphar http://mikey.sanjoseweb.com mi...@matches.com
Life is a great big canvas, and you
should throw all the paint on it you can.
-- Danny Kaye
Justin Chandler
>Justin Chandler (alt.sysadmin.recovery):
>>Um.... Lunar Disturbances?
>>
>>Better?
>>
>>-=Justin=-
>>No, try not. Do....or do not. There is no try. -- Yoda, Jedi Master.
>
>Why not try looking at *every other fscking sig here*?
I was. I thought I had saved the configuration, but winders went
blooie on me.
<grovel_mode=*SELF-LART*>
Kill me! I'm worthless! I can't figure out how to delimit my sig,
let alone tie my shoes, let alone operate my computer! I'd kill
myself, but I'd probably screw that up, too! BLAM BLAM BLAM
See? I missed! KILL MEEEEE!
</grovel>
Now, for the last time. Better?
-=Justin=-
--
'Tis an ill wind that blows no minds.
Justin Chandler
wrote:
>D. Joseph Creighton <d...@cc.umanitoba.ca> staggered into the Black Sun
>and said:
>>Yeah, after all, someone made adb and we live with him...
>
>Yeah, but let's do something _creative_ with the horse you rode in on.
ObXthread: How about we help him paint three stripes?
-=Justin=-
--
Smith & Wesson - The original point and click interface...
jf...@lusars.net
> Mike Sphar <mi...@matches.com> wrote:
>> I'm pretty sure they're not a national chain. They're mainly around
>> California, though there may be a few scattered in other Western states.
> The only one I know of outside .ca.us is in or.us. It always
> annoys me that there's one outside Portland, but not one near Seatle.
> Then again, this is just one more incentive to visit friends in
> Portland, which I don't do nearly enough.
There is one in .dallas.tx.us, as well. I made a point to go see if
it was as awe-inspiring as everyone claims last time I was there. It wasn't.
JF
--
Justin Ferguson - Geek of All Trades - Technical Solutions Consultant
http://www.thedotin.net/jferg <jf...@lusars.net> <JFerg at The Dot in .Net>
I should never have learnt C. There's a limit to how dangerous you can
get with Perl. -- Simon Cozens in the Monastery
Shalon Wood
> Mike Sphar <mi...@matches.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm pretty sure they're not a national chain. They're mainly around
> > California, though there may be a few scattered in other Western states.
>
> The only one I know of outside .ca.us is in or.us. It always
> annoys me that there's one outside Portland, but not one near Seatle.
> Then again, this is just one more incentive to visit friends in
> Portland, which I don't do nearly enough.
There's two in Dallas, but none in Houston. Odd.
Shalon Wood
--
"The PROPER way to handle HTML postings is to cancel the article, then hire a
hitman to kill the poster, his wife and kids, and fuck his dog and smash his
computer into little bits. Anything more is just extremism." - Paul Tomblin
Jay E. Morris
>Mike Sphar <mi...@matches.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm pretty sure they're not a national chain. They're mainly around
>> California, though there may be a few scattered in other Western states.
>
> The only one I know of outside .ca.us is in or.us. It always
>annoys me that there's one outside Portland, but not one near Seatle.
>Then again, this is just one more incentive to visit friends in
>Portland, which I don't do nearly enough.
>
Tempe, AZ ; Arlington, TX; Dallas, TX
.
.
.
.
--
Jay E. Morris' Epsilon 3 Productions, www.epsilon3.com
By 2000 we were supposed to have computers bright enough to argue
with us, but that doesn't mean the way Word does it.
-Jo Walton-
Justin Chandler
>In article <3924c983.1895871@news-server>,
>Justin Chandler <sor...@NOSPAMlinuxmail.org> wrote:
>>I was. I thought I had saved the configuration, but winders went
>>blooie on me.
>
>Winders? Given your address, I hope that's a Linux distro I haven't heard of.
>
>>Kill me! I'm worthless! I can't figure out how to delimit my sig,
>
>*bang*
I can see clearly! My cold has gone! It's a miracle!
Dance! Dance with me in the joy that is the Monastery!
--
-=Justin=-
People must not do things for fun. We are not here for fun. There is
no reference to fun in any Act of Parliament.
Greg Andrews
>
>Frys is one of those places you consistently hate, and yet still find
>yourself going there all the time. (Did I mention I currently live just a
>couple blocks from the location of the original Frys grocery store?)
>
I remember my boss was negotiating with a contractor to retrieve
some floppys to set up a Microvax. IIRC, it was 30-odd floppy
disks for a version of VMS ca. 1987.
My boss couldn't describe to the contractor how to reach our office,
and he didn't want my boss to go to his house. So the agreed to meet
at a place they both knew - the original Frys Electronics parking lot.
The next morning, my boss told me it was a hilarious encounter. It was
dark by the time the consultant got there. They approached each other
furtively, identified themselves, unloaded the boxes of disks from the
trunk of the consultant's car, loaded them into the trunk of my boss' car,
and took separate routes out of the parking lot.
It was the perfect Silicon Valley Drug Deal.
-Greg
--
::::::::::::::::::: Greg Andrews ge...@wco.com :::::::::::::::::::
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Mike Sphar
Morris) once write the following? Read the book:
>On 19 May 2000 08:05:35 GMT, gustav <gus...@shell.dhp.com> wrote:
>>Mike Sphar <mi...@matches.com> wrote:
>>> I'm pretty sure they're not a national chain. They're mainly around
>>> California, though there may be a few scattered in other Western states.
>>
>> The only one I know of outside .ca.us is in or.us. It always
>>annoys me that there's one outside Portland, but not one near Seatle.
>>Then again, this is just one more incentive to visit friends in
>>Portland, which I don't do nearly enough.
>>
>Tempe, AZ ; Arlington, TX; Dallas, TX
Wow, they've definitely infected more of the country than I'd thought. How
do they come up with design themes for so many stores?
One of my favorite Fry's moments was visiting one nearby with my grapefruit
from Chicago who'd never seen one before. The Fry's in question has a sort
of South American Aztec/Inca theme, and the first thing the GF announced
when we walked in the entryway was that the fake monkeys they were using as
part of their "theme" don't exist on the American continent.
--
Mike Sphar http://mikey.sanjoseweb.com mi...@matches.com
I think it pisses God off if you walk by the color purple in a field
somewhere and don't notice it. -- Alice Walker
Mike Sphar
the following? Read the book:
>[Fried Electronics shops]
>Friend of mine 'orked there for a bit as a register whore. Some of the
>salesdroids were in said department becasue 'that is where the girls are'.
Once while waiting in line my eyes were scanning across the various posted
notices on the back wall behind the registers, and I noticed one that said
"Any sales associate that fails to clock out for their break will spend at
least one day working registers".
It did my heart good to know that the people helping me were very possibly
doing so *as punishment*.
>And I won't even go into their nice shrink-wrap equipment they use to
>repackage defective kit and such, then place back on the shelves, with or
>without the 'this product has been returned' tag on the box somewhere.
Those tags are sometimes useful. On more than one occasion, I've
considered buying something only to notice the high percentage of returned
product tags and change my mind.
--
Mike Sphar http://mikey.sanjoseweb.com mi...@matches.com
I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what
I'm with isn't it anymore, and what's it seems weird and scary.
-- Abraham Simpson
Justin The Cynical
->sor...@NOSPAMlinuxmail.org (Justin Chandler) writes:
->
->> On 18 May 2000 23:44:55 GMT, si...@brecon.co.uk (Simon Cozens) wrote:
->> >Why not try looking at *every other fscking sig here*?
->> Now, for the last time. Better?
->
->No.
You know, if I was more of a bastard than I am already, I might mention
some of the comments I've seen flying around in ATSR about The Monastary
But I'm not, so I won't.
Justin "Not a fscking happy camper today" The Cynical
--
"This is the *NIX version of the 'ILOVEYOU' worm. It runs on the honor
Justin The Cynical
[Fried Electronics shops]
->Not to mention clueless unhelpful salespeople, and loud fscking
->"presentations" by some Maytag marketing wank every 3 minutes.
The salesdroids.. You don't know the half of it.
Friend of mine 'orked there for a bit as a register whore. Some of the
salesdroids were in said department becasue 'that is where the girls are'.
And I won't even go into their nice shrink-wrap equipment they use to
repackage defective kit and such, then place back on the shelves, with or
without the 'this product has been returned' tag on the box somewhere.
->Oh, and Furbies. Miles and miles of Furbies.
And salesdroids that try to tell us that ISA cards are more likely to be
Win<spit>modems while the PCI cards are all hardware modems.
Michael Hinz
> On 17 May 2000 19:46:41 GMT, in <slrn8i5t...@manlap.zetnet.co.uk>,
> p...@nowster-zetnet.co.uk (Paul Martin) said:
[snip]
> >I'm feeling a bit tender facially, today. I shaved off my beard. Eight
> >years I'd had that.
>
> on my chin. See if you can imagine how much fun it is trying to shave
> around a gaping wound that's 4cm long.
You *know* this is going to be quoted out of context, right? Nobody
sees that "chin" word anyway ;)
Michael
--
Okay, I'm not exactly a regular poster, but who knows - *someone*
might miss me...
-- David Skinner
Ralph Wade Phillips
Velvet Wood <vel...@pele.cx> wrote in message news:m3zopk7...@pele.cx...
>
> Actually there are *two* in the dallas/fortworth area. One is a normal
> computer store. Big, full of wonderful toys, and moderately inexpensive.
> The other is...odd. Very odd. Someone, somewhere had what he must have
> thought of as "A Wonderful Idea!!!" It's decorated "western style."
> Cowboy shadow art. Leather and chaps. Bundles of hay on wagons. *COWS*
> on the roof and they go "moooooooo!" It's udderly horrifying. I have
trouble
> conceiving of the type of mind who could wake up one morning and think,
> "Hey, computer geeks love that cowboy shit! This'll knock em dead!"
>
> Guess which one is actually within decent driving distance of my home?
>
<item=eyes mode=blink count=1> Hmmm ... Guess where I tend to drop
by on my trips to Dallas/Ft. Worth?
I'll have to go by and see the Arlington store (the one that
Velvet's mentioning is actually in Garland, TX) sometimes.
RwP
Ralph Wade Phillips
Joe Zeff <the.guy.with....@lasfs.org> wrote in message
news:39278df...@news.earthlink.net...
> There's a scandalous rumor that jf...@lusars.net wrote:
>
> > There is one in .dallas.tx.us, as well. I made a point to go see if
> >it was as awe-inspiring as everyone claims last time I was there. It
wasn't.
>
> I don't know if you'd consider the one nearest me as awe-inspiring,
> but it is fun. The decor is "alien invasion movies of the 50s."
> There's even a flying saucer crashed through the wall over the
> entrance.
Hmm ... About where? This sounds like something that should be on
the "Sights that no-one should EVER see" vacation trip I'm planning for, oh,
about 5 or 6 years from now ...
RwP
Matthew Crosby
Alan J Rosenthal <fl...@dgp.toronto.edu> wrote:
>pe...@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>>Alan J Rosenthal <fl...@dgp.toronto.edu> wrote:
>>>ok, it's about time I weighed in here with my personal opinion that I don't
>>>really give a shit about signature delimiters.
>>
>>And your point is what? Do you think we all do?
>
>I'm not sure,... just that no one seemed to be saying that signature
>delimiters were not as important as content, so I thought I'd say it.
"Fix your sig delimiter" is the "me too" of ASR: A pointless, useless
followup that adds no value and serves only to label the poster as a
brain-damaged luser idiot who's too stupid to use email. Fortunately,
kill files help a lot. Tragedy of the commons hits everywhere, I suppose.
Particularily when some people spam the group with it ten times a day.
The even stupider part of it is that while it's a convention, it's
technically required only in son-of-1036, which has been in the "coming
soon" stage for years (as in, I remember the "real soon now" talks by
Henry Spencer at early 90s Usenixes). I've been meaning to hack my copy
of trn to not generate the space just to troll the idiotic weenies, but
haven't got around to it yet.
>I'm also very pleased to hear you respond.. I also have marked to followup to
>your note about those all-in-one faucet things, which I also dislike...
>all this seems to correlate with disliking perl, I think...
General all around grumpiness and misanthropism is I think more the order
of the day. As in, disliking everything and everyone.
--
Matthew Crosby cro...@cs.colorado.edu
Disclaimer: It was in another country, and besides, the wench is dead.
Joe Zeff
<ral...@techie.com> wrote:
> Hmm ... About where? This sounds like something that should be on
>the "Sights that no-one should EVER see" vacation trip I'm planning for, oh,
>about 5 or 6 years from now ...
Burbank. At the corner of Victory and Hollywood Way. Actually, it's
a lot of fun. There are aliens in the rafters shooting down at
soldiers and policemen, a giant ant suspended over the service
department, appropriate movies showing in the snack bar and so forth.
The one in Canoga Park is Alice in Wonderland themed. Nice, but it
doesn't come close to the Burbank one.
--
Joe Zeff
The Guy With the Sideburns
Well, clearly I've lost the ability to tell whether I am
dreaming or am in the "real world". That's why I'm here.
http://www.lasfs.org http://home.earthlink.net/~sidebrnz
David Scheidt
: Don't get me started. Don't get any of us started. "I'd like SCSI drive
: foo, with specifications x, y, and z, please, as you've advertised."
: "What kind of computer is it for?"
"It's green."
That's what one of my college roomates said about his car, when asked and it
wasn't really important. It wasn't even true: the car was blue. I find
that playing dumb with salesclerks makes my life better.
--
dsch...@enteract.com
I've had one "thank fuck I'm only on fire" moment, at which point I promptly
put myself out. -- Derry Hamilton, on why he's a sysadmin.
Mike Sphar
following? Read the book:
>Actually there are *two* in the dallas/fortworth area. One is a normal
>computer store. Big, full of wonderful toys, and moderately inexpensive.
>The other is...odd. Very odd. Someone, somewhere had what he must have
>thought of as "A Wonderful Idea!!!" It's decorated "western style."
>Cowboy shadow art. Leather and chaps. Bundles of hay on wagons. *COWS*
>on the roof and they go "moooooooo!" It's udderly horrifying. I have trouble
>conceiving of the type of mind who could wake up one morning and think,
>"Hey, computer geeks love that cowboy shit! This'll knock em dead!"
Akshully, virtually all Frys have some sort of "theme" design, as far as I
know. I'm surprised to hear there's even one that doesn't. Of the ones
near me that I've been to, I believe we have: Mayan/Aztec/Generictec
Temple, Egyptian Pyramid, Old West, and (perhaps the flimsiest theme
"Museum of Computer History"). The original store (since replaced by the
Museum one) had a "Giant computer components" theme, with giant capacitors,
transistors, and the like scattered throughout the store. Also had the
entrance and exits labeled with giant keyboard keys. (Can you guess
which? "Enter" and "Esc", obviously.)
--
Mike Sphar http://www.dogfacedboy.org/
Witzelsucht is a mental condition, marked by the making of poor jokes
and puns, and the telling of pointless stories at which the speaker is
intensely amused; a characteristic of frontal lobe lesions.
Mike Sphar
write the following? Read the book:
>> Though I'm certainly not far from a lot of Cisco buildings, being on the
>> border of Sunnyvale and Santa Clara. I've driven through parts of town
>> that are clearly wholly-owned fiefdoms of the Cisco corporation.
>
>Ah. That'd be me, then. It would seem we have an amusement park between
>us. If there were anyplace decent nearby (Mountain View? One of the
>[I know, I'm starting a war] English Pubs down in Cupertino near JavaSoft
>and Apple?) I'd suggest an ASR-BA.
Hmm...let's see. The Fault Line sucks pretty bad. Fibbar Magees in
Sunnyvale (And Mountain View) aren't bad. (Yes, they're typical
Faux-Irish, but they've got decent enough food and drink.) Stoddard's is
pretty good. The Britannia Arms down in Cupertino/Saratoga is fine too,
though it is an "English" Pub.
One often overlooked place is St John's in Sunnyvale. It's not officially
a "Pub", but it has a bar with decent beer and spirits (they've had Black
Butte Porter on tap on a couple of occasions), *and* they make kick-ass
burgers and garlic fries to boot.
Mark C. Langston
>
> Hmm...let's see. The Fault Line sucks pretty bad. Fibbar Magees in
> Sunnyvale (And Mountain View) aren't bad. (Yes, they're typical
> Faux-Irish, but they've got decent enough food and drink.) Stoddard's is
> pretty good. The Britannia Arms down in Cupertino/Saratoga is fine too,
> though it is an "English" Pub.
>
> One often overlooked place is St John's in Sunnyvale. It's not officially
> a "Pub", but it has a bar with decent beer and spirits (they've had Black
> Butte Porter on tap on a couple of occasions), *and* they make kick-ass
> burgers and garlic fries to boot.
>
We enjoyed (the grapefruit and I) Fibbar Magees the last time we
dragged our carcasses to an ASR-BA. The Britannia Arms was the
"English" Pub I was referring to, in fact. A friend of ours has been
going to their trivia night every Tuesday for years, and we keep
threatening to show up. Either's fine with me. Fibbar's is a known
quantity, and the Arms we've been wanting to try. St. John's also
sounds intriguing. I could do with a _good_ burger as well (In-N-Out
notwithstanding). Do they have any ciders?
ObASR: My notebook must be aware I lust for another. I've had my eye
on a Sharp Actius, and I have several trips coming up. As if it no
longer wants my company, several of the keys on my Vaio have decided
to start popping off at the most inopportune times. This wouldn't
annoy me so much if two of the worst offenders weren't the 'e' and 'o'
keys.
I guess it is time I ditched this Pentium 266 and upgrade to the PII
350. The only thing that's kept me from doing so thus far is the fact
that the old Vaio would have to find a new role, and the fact that the
Libretto CT50 on my nightstand just got a fresh BSD 3.4/PAO install,
and has started screaming for another WaveLAN card.
True, you can never have too many computers. But you can have too
little office space.
The order form will probably get filled in and submitted tomorrow,
anyway. Is there a 10-step program for hardware addicts?
--
Mark C. Langston
ma...@bitshift.org
Systems Admin
San Jose, CA
Mark C. Langston
> In article <slrn8ik4e...@agamemnon.home.com>, Mark C.
> Langston <ma...@bitshift.org> wrote:
> : I could do with a _good_ burger as well (In-N-Out notwithstanding).
>
> You don't want to know how I misread the word "burger" there, but
> you can probably guess.
Everyone could do with a good one of those. Some are just more
deserving of the effects of friction.
Greg Andrews
>
>Akshully, virtually all Frys have some sort of "theme" design, as far as I
>know. I'm surprised to hear there's even one that doesn't. Of the ones
>near me that I've been to, I believe we have: Mayan/Aztec/Generictec
>Temple, Egyptian Pyramid, Old West, and (perhaps the flimsiest theme
>"Museum of Computer History"). The original store (since replaced by the
>Museum one) had a "Giant computer components" theme, with giant capacitors,
>transistors, and the like scattered throughout the store. Also had the
>entrance and exits labeled with giant keyboard keys. (Can you guess
>which? "Enter" and "Esc", obviously.)
>
The original Fremont store had no theme. It was opened before they
got the idea of themed stores (around the time the first store was
moved to its present location in the old Link building).
The unthemed stores these days are probably the former Incredible
Universe stores. Frys bought them out three or four years ago.
Judging by The Store Formerly Known As IU in San Diego, Frys hasn't
bothered to apply a theme to the decor of the stores. Just rearranged
the interior and changed the exterior signage.
Greg Andrews
>
>One often overlooked place is St John's in Sunnyvale. It's not officially
>a "Pub", but it has a bar with decent beer and spirits (they've had Black
>Butte Porter on tap on a couple of occasions), *and* they make kick-ass
>burgers and garlic fries to boot.
>
Is St. John's still there? When I drove by a couple of days ago,
I thought I saw a sign for "Elroy's" where the St. John's sign
used to be.
I hope I'm wrong, though. I was paying more attention to the road
than to the shop signs.
David Scheidt
j In article <8gcceg$1ug8$1...@news.enteract.com>,
: David Scheidt <dsch...@enteract.com> wrote:
:>That's what one of my college roomates said about his car, when asked and it
:>wasn't really important. It wasn't even true: the car was blue. I find
:>that playing dumb with salesclerks makes my life better.
: The parts lookup computer is brain damaged. :) I once wandered in to a
: Pep Boys to get a headlight switch for my truck. In order to get that,
: the counter droid had to enter in year, make, model, engine, and
: transmission type for a switch that was used in every Chevy truck between
: 1972 and 1988 [0].
Let's not even go into the realm of auto-parts cluelessness. I drive an
elderly Land-Rover (a 1963 IIA 109 5door and a 66 IIA 88) and it's not in
anybody's computer. A pretty large number of parts are common to lots of
LBCs of the era, and so are actually available from them. Things like
points and dizzy caps, as well as things like brake hoses. You can't just
walk in and say "I want points, rotor, condensor, and cap for a 67 MGB.[1]"
Oh, no. They want to know the fucking color before they can look it up in
the precious computer. It's even worse for me when the thing I want is some
random American car bit. I know enough to answer the stuff they need to
know about LBCs, but I don't know shit about american cars -- I've never had
one. I am getting ready to stick a delco alternator on the 109. I want one
just like the 88 has, but fsck if I know what the original application was.
So I go in the lo cal auto place, and ask about them. This is the chain
place near the GF, which has good prices on stuff they actually have, which
isnt' that much. One of the tghings they apparently no longer have is a
paper catalog of partsx. I couldn't go through it, and pick the thing I
want, and say "give me one of them." And of course, they couldn't let me
actually look at the stock they had. I'd have to tell the guy exacty what I
wanted, and then they could go get it. Ick. I left.
--
dsch...@enteract.com
Yes, but they forgot to put in the essential checkbox:
"I am not a brain-damaged lemur on crack". -- Mark Hughes </a>
Joe Zeff
wrote:
>Mark C. Langston <ma...@bitshift.org> wrote:
>
>: Don't get me started. Don't get any of us started. "I'd like SCSI drive
>: foo, with specifications x, y, and z, please, as you've advertised."
>: "What kind of computer is it for?"
>
>"It's green."
>
>That's what one of my college roomates said about his car, when asked and it
>wasn't really important. It wasn't even true: the car was blue. I find
>that playing dumb with salesclerks makes my life better.
Sometimes it isn't just playing dumb, it *is* dumb. I asked a caller
what type of computer he had and the luser replied, "It's white."
--
Joe Zeff
The Guy With the Sideburns
"Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Burger" -- Ronald McDonald
http://www.lasfs.org http://home.earthlink.net/~sidebrnz
Bruce Tomlin
Andrews) wrote:
> The unthemed stores these days are probably the former Incredible
> Universe stores. Frys bought them out three or four years ago.
> Judging by The Store Formerly Known As IU in San Diego, Frys hasn't
> bothered to apply a theme to the decor of the stores. Just rearranged
> the interior and changed the exterior signage.
The Garland (Dallas) store with the moo cow western theme was formerly an
Inedible Universe.
Hmm... maybe I better check out the former Inedible Universe in Houston...
it would be nice to have a Frys only a three hour drive away. (though I
would prefer if they mooved into Austin, too.)
Brian Kantor
> The unthemed stores these days are probably the former Incredible
> Universe stores. Frys bought them out three or four years ago.
> Judging by The Store Formerly Known As IU in San Diego, Frys hasn't
> bothered to apply a theme to the decor of the stores. Just rearranged
> the interior and changed the exterior signage.
I note they've been slowly removing the old IU fixtures - fancy shelves,
cool lighting, multimedia control center, dividers between the urinals in
the mens room, etc. are all disappearing.
On the other hand, they did eventually reduce the wattage on all the new
mercury-vapor lamps so that you no longer have to wonder about the need
for sunblock and ozone filters.
I'd be scared as hell if I were in there during the next big earthquake.
I wish there were somewhere else to get the stuff they sell. Sigh.
- Brian
Mark C. Langston
>
> There's a place near the corner of Grape and El Camino in
> Sunnyvale called "Scotties". Serves Beer and Cider, no food, no Hard Liquor.
> They allow smoking (legally, only the owners work the bar). It's not
> quite dark enough inside, but it's a pretty decent place.
Well that's right out, then. You see, since I quit two years ago, I
have a STRONG aversion to smoke. I'm not one of those anti-smoking
nuts, but I can and will get violent (and likely violently ill) if
someone smokes near me. And I tend to have several extremely sharp
objects on my person at all times.
Although, curiously, I quit (Zyban) just a few months before moving to
.ca.us, so it's never really come up, what with the .ca.us Draconian
anti-smoking laws. I can certainly sympathise with fellow Monks who
want to drink/socialize/play 8-ball/9-ball/foozball without the Body
Police making their rounds. But it's a surefire way to make sure I
avoid the venue.
Plus, being one of the few remaining bastions of "drink 'n' smoke at
your leisure", I imagine the place does a good impression of the
Nostromo in the last half-hour (note the agile thread-crossing. :)
Jerry Leslie
:
: The Garland (Dallas) store with the moo cow western theme was formerly an
:
: Hmm... maybe I better check out the former Inedible Universe in Houston...
: it would be nice to have a Frys only a three hour drive away. (though I
: would prefer if they mooved into Austin, too.)
WARNING: Possible UI alert:
The "former Inedible Universe in Houston" is now the West Loop branch
of Houston Community College:
Mike Andrews
: Well, at least one of the ones here in Dallas has a cowboy theme. Cows
: above the entrance, cowhide on the facade above the entrance, and the
: sound of cows playing over speakers.
So what are the cows playing, anyway? Baseball? Monopoly? C&W music?
String quartets?
--
From RFC 1925: "(3) With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However,
this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly
overhead."
Jay E. Morris
(Bruce Tomlin) wrote:
....
>
>Hmm... maybe I better check out the former Inedible Universe in Houston...
>it would be nice to have a Frys only a three hour drive away. (though I
>would prefer if they mooved into Austin, too.)
.....
What's this? Another SA monk? Why not one here? After all, we are
the 9th largest city, right?
--
Jay E. Morris
System Software Specialist
(confuses the PHBs to call us managers or admin)
General Dynamics Communication Systems
for/Epidemiological Surveillance Division
Brooks AFB, TX
Mark C. Langston
> Scripsit Shalon Wood <ds...@nospam.dummy.pele.cx> about Fry's:
>
> : Well, at least one of the ones here in Dallas has a cowboy theme. Cows
> : above the entrance, cowhide on the facade above the entrance, and the
> : sound of cows playing over speakers.
>
> So what are the cows playing, anyway? Baseball? Monopoly? C&W music?
> String quartets?
>
Considering they work for Fry's? They're playing dumb.
Eric The Read
> Considering they work for Fry's? They're playing dumb.
Considering they work for Fry's, do you think the word "playing" is
appropriate?
I swear, I visited one, count 'em 1 Fry's when in LA, because I'd heard
about what a geek mecca it is. I went in, found some admittedly tasty
hardware-- and you have to like a place that sells cat5 in huge spools
right next to an isle containing Palms-- but still, the sheer lack of
clue displayed by the staff there was mind-boggling.
-=Eric
--
Rivendell household rule #6: It's only a *little* apple - go
ahead, take a bite...
-- Harry Ugol
Juergen Nieveler
<097nis49hdi08h0ii...@4ax.com>:
>>Sometimes it isn't just playing dumb, it *is* dumb. I asked a caller
>>what type of computer he had and the luser replied, "It's white."
>
>Well, that narrows it down a bit. Not an iMac, then.
>
Would you believe a Cow-orker of mine had the same happen to him today?
Called a customer for the technical data to make an offer for an eCommerce-
Server (enfinity.. the real expensive stuff).
Asked about his server, the customer said "a white Apple G3".
--
Juergen "Everybody knows webservers run on blue Macs only" Nieveler
Support the ban of Dihydrogen Monoxide: http://www.dhmo.org/
"The people united can never be ignited!"- Sgt. Colon, Ankh-Morpork Watch
PGP-Key available under www.netcologne.de/~nc-nievelju/
s...@merritt.houston.tx.us
> Hmm... maybe I better check out the former Inedible Universe
> in Houston...
You mean the one on the west loop that is now an HCC branch?
With the new Conn's in front?
Sam
Eric The Read
> and you have to like a place that sells cat5 in huge spools
> right next to an isle containing Palms
Er, that's 'aisle', of course-- though it *was* a south-seas themed store.
-=Eric
--
"I haven't lost my mind -- it's backed up on tape somewhere."
Bruce Tomlin
> What's this? Another SA monk? Why not one here? After all, we are
> the 9th largest city, right?
<cough>30thinmetropolitanarea<cough> And a city clowncil that scrambles
over each other to get $SINGLE_DIGIT/hr hotel jobs into this town, whilst
the high tech stuff crawls ever farther north of Austin.
I only do it for recovery right now. But I'm insane enough to want to get
paid for it someday.
And like they say, what can they do, send you to Brooks? (Although I got
a great view of the shuttle taking off on its way to .fl.us once when I
orked there as a scum-of-the-earth-contractor.)
Joe Zeff
Nieveler) wrote:
>Asked about his server, the customer said "a white Apple G3".
I may have mentioned this recently, so sorry for any repetition. I
had a man with an iMac call in on the Win3.1x queue because he was
using a G3.
--
Joe Zeff
The Guy With the Sideburns
"Top of the line" probably means "Top of the shelf", from where it
dropped to the floor before they send it off.
http://www.lasfs.org http://home.earthlink.net/~sidebrnz
Simo Tuominen
wrote:
>Mark C. Langston <ma...@bitshift.org> wrote:
>
>: Don't get me started. Don't get any of us started. "I'd like SCSI drive
>: foo, with specifications x, y, and z, please, as you've advertised."
>: "What kind of computer is it for?"
>
>"It's green."
>
>That's what one of my college roomates said about his car, when asked and it
>wasn't really important. It wasn't even true: the car was blue. I find
>that playing dumb with salesclerks makes my life better.
Maybe it's a matter of taste, and the lighting angle. My father's car
is marked as "green" in the registration papers, but usually it's
close to blue. Funny those modern metal-flake paints.
David Scheidt
: On 22 May 2000 22:30:40 GMT, David Scheidt <dsch...@enteract.com>
: wrote:
:>"It's green."
:>That's what one of my college roomates said about his car, when asked and it
:>wasn't really important. It wasn't even true: the car was blue. I find
:>that playing dumb with salesclerks makes my life better.
: Maybe it's a matter of taste, and the lighting angle. My father's car
: is marked as "green" in the registration papers, but usually it's
: close to blue. Funny those modern metal-flake paints.
No, Paul's car would not be considered green by anybody but a color-blind
camel. The particular incident that started it involved us trying to check
into a hotel in a blizzard. We'd actually even planned on staying there,
and had made reservations, even. We got there late, they'd given our room
away, and all they had left were some suites, which they refused to let us
at the rate our room should have been at. Paul didn't feel like being nice
when they asked for data on his car, and made it all up. It was sort of a
running gag for the next few months.
--
Most uses of "spider" have noninsect meanings. -- Christine Malcom-Dept.
Paul Tomko
Simo Tuominen <sim...@evitech.fi> wrote:
>On 22 May 2000 22:30:40 GMT, David Scheidt <dsch...@enteract.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>: Don't get me started. Don't get any of us started. "I'd like SCSI drive
>>: foo, with specifications x, y, and z, please, as you've advertised."
>>: "What kind of computer is it for?"
>>
>>
>>That's what one of my college roomates said about his car, when asked and it
>>wasn't really important. It wasn't even true: the car was blue. I find
>>that playing dumb with salesclerks makes my life better.
>
>Maybe it's a matter of taste, and the lighting angle. My father's car
>is marked as "green" in the registration papers, but usually it's
>close to blue. Funny those modern metal-flake paints.
I had an MR-2 that looked red to the naked eye, but was labeled as
some shade of orange in the documents. Not that I'll complain. The insurance
company charges more for red.
Paul
--
Paul Tomko pa...@tomkoinc.com http://www.tomkoinc.com
10000+ Humorous Quotes http://www.tomkoinc.com/quotes.html
"Behold the warranty ... the bold print giveth and the fine
print taketh away." - fortune file
Shawn K. Quinn
Jerry Leslie <les...@clio.rice.edu> wrote:
| WARNING: Possible UI alert:
|
| The "former Inedible Universe in Houston" is now the West Loop branch
| of Houston Community College:
|
| http://www.hccs.cc.tx.us/
That's only UI if you need to know where to go to take classes, you
happen to be in Houston, and you never go on that part of town.
--
Shawn K. Quinn
Eric The Read
> I had an MR-2 that looked red to the naked eye, but was labeled as
> some shade of orange in the documents. Not that I'll complain. The insurance
> company charges more for red.
Really? Every insurance company I've ever talked to denys doing so
vehemently. And even if you assume they're all lying bastards, my uncle,
who's worked in the insurance industry for $BIGNUM years, independently
verifies it. I'm glad I don't have a policy with your company. :)
-=Eric
--
Lockwood's Long Shot:
The chances of getting eaten up by a lion on Main Street aren't
one in a million, but once would be enough.
mlo...@area51.bcgsystems.com
> to...@earth.execpc.com (Paul Tomko) writes:
>> I had an MR-2 that looked red to the naked eye, but was labeled as
>> some shade of orange in the documents. Not that I'll complain. The insurance
>> company charges more for red.
>
> Really? Every insurance company I've ever talked to denys doing so
> vehemently. And even if you assume they're all lying bastards, my uncle,
> who's worked in the insurance industry for $BIGNUM years, independently
> verifies it. I'm glad I don't have a policy with your company. :)
>
But....
Red wonz go fastaz....
Stands to reasons, don't it...
STR, and admit your a gaming geek...
--
Silliness is the last refuge of the doomed. P. Opus
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Rik Steenwinkel
(Joe Zeff) persuaded newsservers all over the world to carry the
following:
} Sometimes it isn't just playing dumb, it *is* dumb. I asked a caller
} what type of computer he had and the luser replied, "It's white."
Cue some comic I've seen: Office-manager type calls supplier to order
a couple of printers. Supplier asks type of computer. O-M doesn't
know, and goes around the office asking. Final panel: "It appears
we're using *&##^*£!^%@$ computers. Does that answer your question?"
--
// Rik Steenwinkel # VMS mercenary # Enschede, Netherlands
mlo...@area51.bcgsystems.com
> In article <siqsq4...@news.supernews.com>,
> <mlo...@area51.bcgsystems.com> wrote:
>>Red wonz go fastaz....
>>Stands to reasons, don't it...
>>
>>STR, and admit your a gaming geek...
>
> will go faster, I plead the fifth.
>
I have a whole kult of speed (epic scale) done in red. Current rules
don't make them faster, it's just in the fluff.
Darrell Fuhriman
> Speaking as someone who's painted an object with a red stripe
> solely so it will go faster, I plead the fifth.
What you really need is speed holes.
Darrell
Rich Lafferty
J.D. Forinash <fox...@cc.gatech.edu> wrote:
> In article <siqsq4...@news.supernews.com>,
> <mlo...@area51.bcgsystems.com> wrote:
> >Red wonz go fastaz....
> >Stands to reasons, don't it...
> >
> >STR, and admit your a gaming geek...
>
> will go faster, I plead the fifth.
>
> looks that way due to the blue shift...
No, they have more RAM.
I *have* found myself attributing the speed difference between my
current G3 and the previous beige one to the blue color, though.
On the subject of mislabeling, though, I *was* annoyed to see that the
vet had written down "gray" as markings for my bee-oo-tiful bluepoint
Birman. :-)
-Rich
--
Rich Lafferty ----------------------------------------
Nocturnal Aviation Division, IITS Computing Services
Concordia University, Montreal, QC
ri...@bofh.concordia.ca -------------------------------
mlo...@area51.bcgsystems.com
> In alt.sysadmin.recovery,
> J.D. Forinash <fox...@cc.gatech.edu> wrote:
>> In article <siqsq4...@news.supernews.com>,
>> <mlo...@area51.bcgsystems.com> wrote:
>> >Red wonz go fastaz....
>> >Stands to reasons, don't it...
>> >
>> >STR, and admit your a gaming geek...
>>
>> Speaking as someone who's painted an object with a red stripe solely so it
>> will go faster, I plead the fifth.
>>
>> Besides, it's _really_ the purple ones that go faster. Or maybe it just
>> looks that way due to the blue shift...
>
> No, they have more RAM.
>
I However, am not PHB
Simo Tuominen
(Joe Zeff) wrote:
>There's a scandalous rumor that niev...@netcologne.de (Juergen
>Nieveler) wrote:
>
>>Asked about his server, the customer said "a white Apple G3".
>
>I may have mentioned this recently, so sorry for any repetition. I
>had a man with an iMac call in on the Win3.1x queue because he was
>using a G3.
You did. Go get a sack and some ash. You're claiming burn-out, yes?
Simo Tuominen
>ma...@bitshift.org (Mark C. Langston) writes:
>> Considering they work for Fry's? They're playing dumb.
>
>Considering they work for Fry's, do you think the word "playing" is
>appropriate?
You think the bovines have a choice? I bet you don't expect to be able
to meet the meat before dinner either, so why would the cows have
anything to say on where they work?
Joe Zeff
wrote:
Well, I warned you. Did I ever mention the time I got a call from a
farmer that was outstanding in his field?
--
Joe Zeff
The Guy With the Sideburns
If you can't play with words, what good are they?
http://www.lasfs.org http://home.earthlink.net/~sidebrnz
Michael Brown
>jac...@shay.ecn.purdue.edu (David Jacoby) wrote:
>>Obviously? I'd think "Return" would be more obvious.
>Yeah, but you could only use that when entering on your subsequent
>visit.
ESC and Return. After all, you're returning to the Asylum.
M.
--
Michael Brown -- super...@bigfoot.com
3B Computer Science, University of Waterloo
David Skinner
<dar...@grumblesmurf.net> writes
>What you really need is speed holes.
Okay. this one is driving me mad. Where do I know it from?
--
David "couldn't S a R if it came up and bit me" Skinner
Darrell Fuhriman
> In article <tshr9aq...@localhost.localdomain>, Darrell Fuhriman
> <dar...@grumblesmurf.net> writes
> >What you really need is speed holes.
>
> Okay. this one is driving me mad. Where do I know it from?
Well, at least you realized it was a STR, no one else seems to
have. I'm kind of ashamed of y'all. I thought it was awfully
obvious -- or maybe that's why no one commented.
Anyway -- The Simpsons. http://www.snpp.com/episodes/2F12
Is there some rule about telling people STRs?
Darrell
Marshall McGowan
: The original store (since replaced by the
: Museum one) had a "Giant computer components" theme, with giant capacitors,
: transistors, and the like scattered throughout the store. Also had the
: entrance and exits labeled with giant keyboard keys. (Can you guess
: which? "Enter" and "Esc", obviously.)
That wasn't the original store. That was the third store.
Oh gods. Frys.
Now you've done it.
I worked at Frys way back when they were just one somewhat overcramped store
in Sunnyvale. A long time ago in a galaxy far away, thankfully. I started
out as a stock clerk type personage and then fairly immediately became the
person that would take over whatever disaster was happening that week.
"The shipping guy just quit! Quick, let's get Marshall to do it!" Whereby I
proceeded to make the damn thing actually work instead of taking a week to
ship out a box of ram chips in those cute nifty plastic gutter looking
things that single ram chips were shipped in back then.
"Purchasing fella's gotten his son run over by a train..." [1] And so on and
so forth.
The must wear white shirt, a tie, and non-blue or black jeans policy
certainly sucked. Of course, I then got a nice white tie and white jeans. I
musta looked like Mr Clean or something.
The folks who ran it were quite a group. The three Fry brothers and a female
named something similar, but not necessarily, to Katherine Kalder.[2] We
knew she was doing one of the Fry brothers, but I could never figure out
which one. One of the brothers spent all of his time coding or updating or
whathaveyou on the internal inventory database. Seemed like he knew what he
was doing moderately well, but I don't know for sure. The other two were
definitely pointy-hairs.
Anyways, around that time was when they went to their second store, which
was in Fremont. All sorts of fun messes with keeping proper stocks of things
in the first store now that its storage space had suddenly shrunk to next to
nothing so that the warehouse in Fremont could hoard all the good stock.
And, oh yes, the salesdroids in there were god-awful. But, everytime I go
into a Frys (about once every three years these days, thankfully) the
salesdroids actually seem to be getting worse and worse.
I can't remember if the Palo Alto store came next of if they moved the
Sunnyvale store from the original location to the current one with the chip
theme. And I had absolutely no idea that they themed the majority of their
stores. No idea at all.[3]
It was a useful job to have back when I had it, but I was unbelieveably glad
to leave it for somewhere else.
Marshall
Bleagh
[1] Ick. No, really, just ick.
[2] Really, that is likely wrong. I can't even remember the first names of
the brothers anymore. Maybe one was a John.
[3] Shudder.
--
Marshall McGowan | Heisenberg slept here, or somewhere else nearby.
mars...@sonic.net | W J Williams, Days of Atonement.
Justin Warren
Fuhriman wrote:
> David Skinner <dav...@drspc.demon.co.uk> writes:
>> In article <tshr9aq...@localhost.localdomain>, Darrell Fuhriman
>> <dar...@grumblesmurf.net> writes
>> >What you really need is speed holes.
>>
>> Okay. this one is driving me mad. Where do I know it from?
> Well, at least you realized it was a STR, no one else seems to
> have. I'm kind of ashamed of y'all. I thought it was awfully
> obvious -- or maybe that's why no one commented.
That was my take on it. I've been LARTed before for apparently claiming
STR on obvious material. Once deservedly.
> Is there some rule about telling people STRs?
I'm sure someone more knowledgable than myself on the rules of STR will
respond. Particularly since I only worked out what STR meant a few weeks
ago.
I'm still working on some of the other ones.
--
"No thanks, I'm trying to cut back on my exposures to violent bestial rape,
at least during the summer months."
-- Mike Sphar in the Scary Devil Monastery
nathan wagner
Paul Mc Auley <pmca...@iol.ie> wrote:
>[1] ObXthread: There's a thought, in this particular part of the world,
> engine capacity is measured (and taxed) in cc, what is it in the
> non-metric locations? And how do you convert?
Cool. We found another one. AFAIK, engines are measured in liters here in
the US (for cars anyway, i think it's cc for motorcycles). In my state (WI)
at least, cars aren't taxed.
--
Chance is irrelevant. We will succeed. -- Seven of Nine
Peter Barrett
<slrn8j2mei....@news.iol.ie>:
>More to the point, if you ring up looking for a quote, the data they're
>going to want the make/model/year/engine size[1] plus personal data, the
>colour doesn't enter into it. In fact (grabs insurance cert, which just
>happened to be on the desk), yup the cert just says
> "The Vehicle bearing registration number 96G506".
Insurance agencies in the US generally require the vehicle identification
number in addition to the license plate number. Many car companies encode
original equipment and options information into the VIN, including original
body color. The art of decoding VINs to determine the originality of a car
of collector interest is a hobby in itself, and truly scary people can do
it from memory.
I don't know for certain if US insurance agencies charge additional
premiums for hot colors[1], but I'd doubt it.
>[1] ObXthread: There's a thought, in this particular part of the world,
> engine capacity is measured (and taxed) in cc, what is it in the
> non-metric locations? And how do you convert?
The cubic inch (1ci = 16.387cc) has been the traditional displacement
measurement of choice because 409 sounds better than 6702 in a song[2].
But the liter has taken over in advertising.
Additional trivia: New cars in the US are taxed according to average fuel
economy, not engine displacement.
Peter
http://home.interpath.net/pbarrett
[1] Perhaps they should charge more for drab colors. My grandfather's
dark green Chrysler LHS (not a small car) was hit 3 times by lusers
who claimed that they couldn't see it. He has not had this problem
with his new silver LHS.
[2] Has there been a UK or European pop song about a sports car engine?
David Skinner
<dar...@grumblesmurf.net> writes
>David Skinner <dav...@drspc.demon.co.uk> writes:
>
>> In article <tshr9aq...@localhost.localdomain>, Darrell Fuhriman
>> <dar...@grumblesmurf.net> writes
>> >What you really need is speed holes.
>>
>> Okay. this one is driving me mad. Where do I know it from?
>
>Well, at least you realized it was a STR, no one else seems to
>have. I'm kind of ashamed of y'all. I thought it was awfully
>obvious -- or maybe that's why no one commented.
>
>
Of course!, (slaps forehead) D'oh! I'd been racking my brains - was it a
film I'd seen recently (Gladiator, Scream3, Final Destination, Galaxy
Quest)? Probably not. A video I'd rented recently (World is Not Enough,
Existenz)? Nope. Oh well, I'll try harder next time.
As for "rules of STR", well I usually make it obvious by putting (STR)
after the ref in question. But I'm sure someone will tell me that that
is WRONG! TOTALLY WRONG! WHERE'D YOU LEARN THIS? STOP DOING IT! (STR)
I'm sure there is another faction here who are of the opinion that it
shouldn't be so obvious. Sorta like - the first rule of STR is you do
not talk about STR. The secon....... (STR).
--
David Skinner
Mike Andrews
: On Sun, 28 May 2000 22:09:05 GMT,
: Paul Mc Auley <pmca...@iol.ie> wrote:
:>[1] ObXthread: There's a thought, in this particular part of the world,
:> engine capacity is measured (and taxed) in cc, what is it in the
:> non-metric locations? And how do you convert?
: Cool. We found another one. AFAIK, engines are measured in liters here in
: the US (for cars anyway, i think it's cc for motorcycles). In my state (WI)
: at least, cars aren't taxed.
<fx type="whisper"> Not so loud. The state government here hasn't
though of taxing cars by engine capacity, and I don't want 'em to
get the idea.</fx>
Honestly, the gov't. here doesn't even _record_ the engine capacity,
AFAIK, much less tax based on it. They do tax on most everything
else about cars, though.
--
Prediction is difficult, especially of the future. - (Niels Bohr)
Rik Steenwinkel
} On Sun, 28 May 2000 22:09:05 GMT,
} Paul Mc Auley <pmca...@iol.ie> wrote:
}
} >[1] ObXthread: There's a thought, in this particular part of the world,
} > engine capacity is measured (and taxed) in cc, what is it in the
} > non-metric locations? And how do you convert?
}
} Cool. We found another one. AFAIK, engines are measured in liters here in
} the US (for cars anyway, i think it's cc for motorcycles).
More likely than not the capacity in cc for motorcycles is because
it's often easily available, as the numeric part of the model
designation (for older BMWs and Guzzis, multiply by ten).
Gary Smith
<graem...@mathie.cx> wrote:
:The Simpsons? I have an image of Homer with a pickaxe over the family
:car and Ned Flanders asking what he's up to, but I can't remember which
:episode. Of course, being the Simpsons, it's probably a reference to
:something else antirely.
I'll go with you on this one. Homer goes on the Krusty course, tells everyone
he's the real Krusty, turns out Krusty owes $47 (iirc) to some Italian loan
sharks. Krusty doesn't pay up, so they go looking for him.
Homer still claims to be Krusty, so they start taking pot shots at a car he's
trying to buy from a second hand car lot. Salesman explains they're speed
holes and they're really really good. Homer accepts this, and takes the car.
Flanders sees the new car, whilst Homer is beating the shite out of it with
a pick-axe (making more speedholes), and the Italian lot fire at the car,
making more holes.
I really should get out more...
--
Gary Smith | "When the hostess greeted me at the door dressed
DS Communications | in nothing but strategically placed vise-grips, I
Tel: +44 7050 612665 | realised that was going to be an interesting party
Fax: +44 7050 693131 | after all" -- Peter Da Silva