Hard drive capacity
Howard Kaikow
3 hard drives, all SCSI.
I need to add a drive. SCSI is too expensive, not to mention, not sure how
easy it would be to rejigger the cable to handle a 4th drive.
So, I need to add an ATA 100 drive.
1. Anyone recall the BIOS restrictions on drive capacity imposed by the
SE440BX?
2. If I buy a 40GB or an 80GB drive, will I be able to ise at least the
first 32GB?
3. Do the capacity restrictions apply to individual partititions, or the
drive as a whole?
4. Currently, I have a CD-RW on one of the IDE connectors (I guess the
master), and a ZIP on the other.
What would be the best config: ATA drive on master, with CD-RW and ZIP on
slave?
5. Yes, I know the ATA 100 would only run as ATA 33, but I have no available
slots for an ATA controller.
6. Any recommendations for drive bay coolers?
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Ben Myers
What version of Windows is running on the old beast? The version has a lot to
do with partition sizes.
The SE440-BX2 is right on the cusp of BIOS changes to handle larger IDE hard
drives.
Preferably, put an IDE drive alone on the primary IDE channel. By the way, the
IDE drive will become the boot drive. The SE440-BX2 BIOS is not smart enough
to boot from a SCSI when an IDE is present.
A 4th SCSI drive is no big deal. The last drive on the cable gets SCSI bus
termination. The other drives do not... Ben Myers
On Sun, 20 May 2007 08:17:01 -0400, "Howard Kaikow" <kai...@standards.com>
wrote:
Howard Kaikow
news:lr8253h5mddn4qoda...@4ax.com...
> What version of Windows is running on the old beast? The version has a
lot to
> do with partition sizes.
Windows 2000.
> The SE440-BX2 is right on the cusp of BIOS changes to handle larger IDE
hard
> drives.
I asked about the SE440BX, not the BX 2.
> Preferably, put an IDE drive alone on the primary IDE channel. By the
way, the
> IDE drive will become the boot drive. The SE440-BX2 BIOS is not smart
enough
> to boot from a SCSI when an IDE is present.
I thought that the BIOS had a menu to determine the order in which the
drives are used for booting.
If booting from the IDE, than ALL drive letters will change. There are OS on
C and three other partitions.
> A 4th SCSI drive is no big deal. The last drive on the cable gets SCSI
bus
> termination. The other drives do not...
There are two issues with adding a 4th SCSI drive.
1. Not sure that the cabling can be arranged accommodate the drive. I've got
go inside, pull the tape drive,
to see whether this is feasible.
2. Cost.
Thanx.
Ben Myers
On Mon, 21 May 2007 16:01:50 -0400, "Howard Kaikow" <kai...@standards.com>
wrote:
>"Ben Myers" <ben_myers_...@charter.net> wrote in message
>news:lr8253h5mddn4qoda...@4ax.com...
>> What version of Windows is running on the old beast? The version has a
>lot to
>> do with partition sizes.
>
>Windows 2000.
Windows 2000 will not handle the megapartitons supported by XP. I suspect that
132GB is the limit. You might be able to confirm that somehow with some
research on your own. I have a 44GB SCSI drive with a single partition running
perfectly on a Windows 2000 system here.
>
>> The SE440-BX2 is right on the cusp of BIOS changes to handle larger IDE
>hard
>> drives.
>
>I asked about the SE440BX, not the BX 2.
And the SE440BX might well be just before the cusp. I am uncertain if it
supports a drive larger than 32GB, one of the several fabled BIOS limits
programmed by short-sighted BIOS programmers.
>
>> Preferably, put an IDE drive alone on the primary IDE channel. By the
>way, the
>> IDE drive will become the boot drive. The SE440-BX2 BIOS is not smart
>enough
>> to boot from a SCSI when an IDE is present.
>
>I thought that the BIOS had a menu to determine the order in which the
>drives are used for booting.
Well, no. It does not. Which is exactly why I stated what I did. The
SE440-BX BIOS is not smart enough to boot from a SCSI when an IDE is present
either. The SE440-BX BIOS does not have a menu to determine the order in which
the drives are used for booting, taking SCSI drives into account. In general,
only motherboards with on-board SCSI are capable of doing so. Intel boards
generally do not behave this way. You can check this yourself by examinig the
BIOS setup options for the board.
>If booting from the IDE, than ALL drive letters will change. There are OS on
>C and three other partitions.
I do not know how to solve that problem. But you are right. It is a problem.
>
>> A 4th SCSI drive is no big deal. The last drive on the cable gets SCSI
>bus
>> termination. The other drives do not...
>
>There are two issues with adding a 4th SCSI drive.
>
>1. Not sure that the cabling can be arranged accommodate the drive. I've got
>go inside, pull the tape drive,
>to see whether this is feasible.
>
>2. Cost.
So you stated the first time. But you are going to pay one way or another.
Either you get another SCSI drive or replace one of the ones you already have
with a larger drive or you get a SCSI cable with more connectors or you spend a
lot of time reloading Win 2000 on an IDE drive then rejiggering all your
programs and data. You pays your money and you makes your choice... Ben
>
>Thanx.
>
Howard Kaikow
> Windows 2000 will not handle the megapartitons supported by XP. I
suspect that
> 132GB is the limit. You might be able to confirm that somehow with some
> research on your own. I have a 44GB SCSI drive with a single partition
running
> perfectly on a Windows 2000 system here.
AFAIK, the mobo BIOS limit does not affect SCSI, that is handled by te SCSI
card.
> Well, no. It does not. Which is exactly why I stated what I did. The
> SE440-BX BIOS is not smart enough to boot from a SCSI when an IDE is
present
> either. The SE440-BX BIOS does not have a menu to determine the order in
which
> the drives are used for booting, taking SCSI drives into account. In
general,
> only motherboards with on-board SCSI are capable of doing so. Intel
boards
> generally do not behave this way. You can check this yourself by
examinig the
> BIOS setup options for the board.
The SE440BX does have a "Hard Drive Submenu" that "Specifies the boot
sequence for the hard drives attached to the computer".
Ben Myers
wrote:
<SNIP>
>AFAIK, the mobo BIOS limit does not affect SCSI, that is handled by te SCSI
>card.
Correct.
>The SE440BX does have a "Hard Drive Submenu" that "Specifies the boot
>sequence for the hard drives attached to the computer".
>
You're certainly welcome to try an IDE drive and see what happens.
I have nothing further to add... Ben Myers
Howard Kaikow
That's the sound of me chickening out.
I just bought a SCSI drive to avoid the potential ATA issues.
Ben Myers
connections, SCSI terminators and the like. We've got'em here, both narrow and
wide... Ben
On Fri, 25 May 2007 11:42:45 -0400, "Howard Kaikow" <kai...@standards.com>
wrote:
>Cluck! Cluck!
Howard Kaikow
> You're ahead of the game. Let me know if you are short on internal SCSI
cable
> connections, SCSI terminators and the like. We've got'em here, both
narrow and
> wide... Ben
Thanx.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
To buy a SCSI drive, naturally!