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David Harper

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Nov 17, 2009, 9:39:10 AM11/17/09
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I just noticed that on the Dell website they are selling laptops with
Windows 7 with downgrade to XP. That is pretty amazing.

- David Harper

Pen

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Nov 17, 2009, 10:48:10 AM11/17/09
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Well the choices and win7 starter which is a crippled version, supposedly
similar to XP. But who knows for sure? While XPH is one we all know and
love.
It is the full featured thing and does everything the vast majority of us
need.

lgree...@srt.com

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Nov 17, 2009, 12:21:57 PM11/17/09
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I think that will help sales for those who are dedicated to XP but
need a newer faster computer. They can upgrade to the latest hardware
without changing the os. Sounds like a smart move on Dell's part.
Larry

Daddy

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Nov 17, 2009, 12:42:54 PM11/17/09
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You misunderstand the purpose of the downgrade right. :-)

If you (or more likely, your organization) is using a mission-critical
application that, for whatever reason, has not been tested for
compatibility with Windows 7, you have the option of downgrading to
Windows XP if the application proves incompatible.

Windows XP doesn't have drivers for "the latest hardware." You'll be
limited now and in the future to hardware that Windows 7 supports.

Daddy

lgree...@srt.com

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Nov 17, 2009, 1:56:51 PM11/17/09
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On Nov 17, 10:42 am, Daddy <da...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

No, I am just an individual who is quite happy with XP and the
software that I am using and but would like to be able to transport
that OS to new and faster hardware, while maintaining my existing
peripherals. Dell's decision might buy me a couple of more years of
service out of my existing software and peripheral hardware without
having to upgrade to the latest version of photoshop, adobe acrobat
suite, word, ocr software, and some others.

But....what is strange about Dell offering this, I think, is the fact
that windows 7 is suppose to have an XP virtual capability, as long as
the hardware can handle it, that is capable of running XP inside of
windows 7. That would certainly take care of the driver issues you
raise. But still I wonder why Dell decided to offer this downgrade
given the XP virtualization mode in windows 7?

Larry

Pen

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Nov 17, 2009, 2:01:03 PM11/17/09
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One reason is that the version of win7 offered on a netbook is EXTREMELY
limited.
It does not have the virtualization. Also, the machine would slow down
to a crawl.
The Intel Atom CPUs used run only in the 1.5 GHz area. Single core.

lgree...@srt.com

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Nov 17, 2009, 2:25:04 PM11/17/09
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So the offer is just for the netbook? Larry

David Harper

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Nov 17, 2009, 3:27:47 PM11/17/09
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<lgree...@srt.com> wrote in message news:e03cb021-d3ea-4065-ba0b-

> So the offer is just for the netbook? Larry

In Dell's business department the XP downgrade is offered on (50) laptop
models of Vostro, Latitude, Precision and the Mini 10 Netbook. And on 34
desktop models.

- David Harper

Ben Myers

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Nov 17, 2009, 5:03:29 PM11/17/09
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Pity that the netbook mfrs are not selling the dual core Atom, which
performs very respectably... Ben Myers

Ben Myers

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Nov 17, 2009, 5:07:24 PM11/17/09
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The Windows XP install CD can't ever be expected to have the drivers for
"the latest hardware", in other words most computers built with SATA
disk drives. But the drivers are readily available from the chipset
manufacturers' web sites, companies like Intel, ATI, nVidia, Realtek,
ADI, Creative Labs. Because Dell uses mainstream chips on its
Intel-based products, having a fully functional "latest hardware" system
with XP should not be an insurmountable obstacle, at least for a while.

Companies with mission-critical applications are generally well-prepared
to handle tasks like XP downgrades... Ben Myers

Christopher Muto

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Nov 17, 2009, 5:08:28 PM11/17/09
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right. you will only fond winxp home offered on new netbooks or winxp pro
offered on new laptop/desktops sold in the small business division.
winxp home was the only windows that ran on netbooks (particularly dells
that do not have upgradable ram, stuck at just 1gb), vista never did. with
win7 microsoft came out with a goofy limited version of win7 called
'starter edition' that is limited to running three programs simultaneously
and lacks many of the other features of win7 that arguably is done to make a
better user experiance (can't change the wallpaper becuase the shared video
memory could rob too much of the limited regular memory from the os with a
high resolution wall paper, etc). if you are thinking netbook look at the
asus 1005ha or msi wind which have memory that is upgradeable to 2gb and so
you can run the full version of win7 if you wish.

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