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Tony Karp

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Mar 25, 2003, 7:53:08 AM3/25/03
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I work mainly with graphics -- programs like Photoshop, etc, that use a lot of
memory and processing power.

I've been using these programs with no problem on a notebook (P4 2.2 ghz, 1gb
RAM) with no problems. Network stuff seems okay as well.

I'm about to get a new desktop.

Is there any advantage, given the sort of programs I run, in getting XP Pro
rather than XP home?

It's not the cost difference, which is minimal, but the additional complexity
of XP Pro that worries me.

I'll be getting the P4 with Hyperthreading, but I assume that this will work
just as well under XP Home (????)

Any thoughts on this?


Tony Karp, TLC Systems Corp

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Tom Scales

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Mar 25, 2003, 8:02:15 AM3/25/03
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I don't think there are truly any advantages for you, since both XP Pro and
XP Home support Hyperthreading (which surprised me). That said, there also
is not any added complexity. Pro works pretty much like Home unless you use
some of the additional features. Buying Pro with the machine is by far the
cheapest way to get it -- if you change your mind later......

That's why my laptop and desktop both have XP Pro.

Tom
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Edward J. Neth

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Mar 25, 2003, 8:03:52 AM3/25/03
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XP Home does support hyperthreading.

The main advantages of XP Pro over home are the fact that it can join a
domain
(XP Home cannot), that it supports an encrypted filesystem (Home doesn't),
and that it can take 10 simultaneous network connections (Home takes 5). If
you don't
have more than five machines, aren't on a corporate domain, and don't need
an encrypted
filesystem, you don't need XP Pro; Home will do just fine.


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Robert R Kircher, Jr.

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Mar 25, 2003, 8:40:07 AM3/25/03
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One other advantage to Pro over Home is Pro provides for Remote Desktop
connection both server and client where Home only provides the client. So
if you think you may want to connect to you PC via RDP you better buy Pro.

BTW: RDP is a wonderful thing and it performs soooo much better than
PCAnywhere ever did.
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Tom Almy

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Mar 25, 2003, 9:04:24 AM3/25/03
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Still another advantage of Pro, if you were to upgrade your laptop, is
that the Offine files feature is superior to the Briefcase feature for
sharing files between machines.

Also, if all systems have Pro then file sharing is more configurable in
that files can be shared between computers restricted to certain
individuals (with Home, files shared between computers are accesable to
all), and files on a individual system can be shared between certain
individuals as well.

HillBillyBuddhist

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Mar 25, 2003, 10:44:26 AM3/25/03
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Windows XP Comparison Guide.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/choosing2.asp

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Ogden Johnson III

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Mar 25, 2003, 11:34:52 AM3/25/03
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Tony Karp <tkarp-@-tlc-systems.com> wrote:

>I work mainly with graphics -- programs like Photoshop, etc, that use a lot of
>memory and processing power.
>
>I've been using these programs with no problem on a notebook (P4 2.2 ghz, 1gb
>RAM) with no problems. Network stuff seems okay as well.
>
>I'm about to get a new desktop.
>
>Is there any advantage, given the sort of programs I run, in getting XP Pro
>rather than XP home?
>
>It's not the cost difference, which is minimal, but the additional complexity
>of XP Pro that worries me.

The "additional complexity" is also minimal. I had no problems going
directly into XPPro from Win98SE, despite minimal exposure to anything
involving the NT Kernel. [I even bought a couple of the XPPro
"how-to" books that crowded the shelves of the local B&N, and didn't
crack them open once - even for setting up the domain discussed
below.]

Other responses have addressed the differences between the Home and
Pro versions of XP. I chose to get my D4400 with Pro not even knowing
what those differences were, but wanting to be able to take advantage
of whatever they might be if my job required it. Sure enough, and not
two months later, a change in work assignment from our small company's
main office to our on-site office at a major client's facility did
permit/require me to be able to work at home a good bit of the time,
telecommuting as it were. And to connect to that client's network, I
had to be able to set up my home machines [upgraded the other to XPP
at the same time as I bought the D4400] to be able to work under their
domain - which XPHome wouldn't have done.

Since the additional cost doesn't seem to be a factor, I'd recommend
seeking crystal ball insurance, and going with XPPro.

OJ III

Markeau

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Mar 25, 2003, 2:38:41 PM3/25/03
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And if you ever want to add a web server to XPhome you have to use a
3rd party package ... XPhome does not support IIS, but XPpro does.

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Mark Gillespie

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> BTW: RDP is a wonderful thing and it performs soooo much better than
> PCAnywhere ever did.

But nowhere near as good (or as cross platform compatible), than VNC....
(ultravnc.sf.net)


Sean

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Mar 25, 2003, 10:39:17 PM3/25/03
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Au contraire, mon ami. I would suggest that not including IIS in the Home
Edition was done in the name of making the OS more secure.

"That's very surprising. Even Windows 98 came with a web server and you can
> download one for Windows 95 and NT from Microsoft. I guess they decided
they
> could make a little more money by not including it in the home version."


Robert R Kircher, Jr.

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> Au contraire, mon ami. I would suggest that not including IIS in the Home
> Edition was done in the name of making the OS more secure.
>


Besides how many average home users need an Internet Server with their OS?
It was a marketing ploy from the beginning.

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Rob

Tom Almy

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ah...@no-spam-world.std.com wrote:
>>>>>>Tom Almy writes:
>>>>>
>
> Tom> Still another advantage of Pro, if you were to upgrade your laptop, is
> Tom> that the Offine files feature is superior to the Briefcase feature for
> Tom> sharing files between machines.
>
> Tom> Also, if all systems have Pro then file sharing is more configurable
> Tom> in that files can be shared between computers restricted to certain
> Tom> individuals (with Home, files shared between computers are accesable
>
> Could you expand on this? I have two XP Pro machines on a
> network, used by 5 people, and I wanted them to be able to see
> their private files on the other machine, but could not figure
> out how to do it. They now put their homework on an open W98
> machine also on the network.

They need to have the same login on both systems. Then fire up Windows
Explorer (My Computer works fine) Click on Tools->Folder Options->View,
and scroll to the bottom. Uncheck "Use simple file sharing". Now on any
folder you can enable and set sharing permissions and set access
permissions for the files contained within.

Note that it isn't necessary to use a system with XP Pro, just that the
files need to be on a system with XP Pro.

owen

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Mar 26, 2003, 3:45:32 AM3/26/03
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> And if you ever want to add a web server to XPhome you have to use a
> 3rd party package ... XPhome does not support IIS, but XPpro does.
>

Yep, this is the main, if not the only, reason I went for Pro instead of
Home.

Owen


owen

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> "Sean" <no...@none.invalid> wrote in message
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> > Au contraire, mon ami. I would suggest that not including IIS in the
Home
> > Edition was done in the name of making the OS more secure.
> >
>
>
> Besides how many average home users need an Internet Server with their OS?
> It was a marketing ploy from the beginning.
>

I need it on mine. But then, perhaps I'm smarter than the average bear ;o)

Owen

Tom Almy

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Mar 26, 2003, 9:10:52 AM3/26/03
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When I needed a Web server I downloaded the free, IBM port of Apache.

Brian

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Mar 26, 2003, 2:39:42 PM3/26/03
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Mark Gillespie <mgback...@hotmail.com> wrote:
:> BTW: RDP is a wonderful thing and it performs soooo much better than
:> PCAnywhere ever did.

: But nowhere near as good (or as cross platform compatible), than VNC....
: (ultravnc.sf.net)

Too bad VNC isn't a multi-user program (as in respecting various .logins,
desktops, etc). The scroll bug is quite annoying too. Otherwise, the
price is right.

Ren?Raimondi

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Mar 26, 2003, 5:08:14 PM3/26/03
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Tony Karp wrote:


See the manufacturer's notes which edition is right for you...
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/whichxp.asp


Tony Karp

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Mar 27, 2003, 2:06:42 PM3/27/03
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"Tom Scales" <tom...@softhome.net> wrote:
>I don't think there are truly any advantages for you, since both XP Pro and
>XP Home support Hyperthreading (which surprised me). That said, there also
>is not any added complexity. Pro works pretty much like Home unless you use
>some of the additional features. Buying Pro with the machine is by far the
>cheapest way to get it -- if you change your mind later......

Tom,

Okay, I've ordered my 4550 with XP Pro (maybe the computer will show up this
time).

Questions (complexity issues):

Is it possible to set up XP Pro so the machine will boot up without requiring
me to log on (possible in XP home)?

I've heard that you have to set the admin password in order to enable booting
into safe mode. Is this true?

Bob Levine

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Mar 27, 2003, 3:15:23 PM3/27/03
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Tony Karp wrote:

> Is it possible to set up XP Pro so the machine will boot up without requiring
> me to log on (possible in XP home)?

As long as you're the only user and don't add a password, you'll go
right into Windows.

Bob

Tony Karp

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Mar 27, 2003, 3:31:21 PM3/27/03
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Bob Levine <robjlevi...@netscape.net> wrote:
>As long as you're the only user and don't add a password, you'll go
>right into Windows.

Thanks for this info.

What about booting into safe mode? A friend told me that he had to have an
admin password to do this.

Tom Scales

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Mar 27, 2003, 3:45:30 PM3/27/03
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Yes, you do. You'll set it the first time you setup your machine, but
that's no big deal.

Tom
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Morey G.

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Mar 27, 2003, 6:10:33 PM3/27/03
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Tom,
I have a Toshiba ProSat 6000 laptop (work issue) that I was lucky enough to
get fresh out of the box. I am the ONLY user, and as such the
administrator. I never set a password for the machine when I fired it up
for the first time. So far, (and forever I hope!), I have not had to boot
into safe mode. Does not having a password PREVENT me from doing so?
Thanks in advance and regards,
Morey G
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Tom Scales

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Mar 27, 2003, 6:15:24 PM3/27/03
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Nope. You may not have one set. Guess I may have remembered the process
wrong, or differently vendors do it differently. I know whenever I have done
a clean XP install, it has asked.

Tom
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notjustjay

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Mar 27, 2003, 10:00:10 PM3/27/03
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DaveJohnson12@nomail. wrote:

> On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 22:39:17 -0500, "Sean" <no...@none.invalid> wrote:

>>Au contraire, mon ami. I would suggest that not including IIS in the Home
>>Edition was done in the name of making the OS more secure.

> I'm not sure if that makes sense. If you want use your PC as a web server that
> other people can access then you have to take the risk and if you don't then you
> don't have to run the web server software and there wouldn't be any security
> problem.

Microsoft has a habit of leaving things turned on that users don't really
need, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was on by default or turned on
accidentally.

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jay

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Tom Scales

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Mar 27, 2003, 10:24:44 PM3/27/03
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No, it's not. In fact IIS has to be installed after you install XP Pro.

Just did it.
Tom
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