Hi All I have a new Acer Aspire 5610 laptop. The eNet Manager utility give an Application Error when saving the profile settings although it works. I get a cannot read memory location error. When I use the XP network software everything seems ok. I downloaded the eNet utility again from the Acer website and installed it again, but still get the error message. I am reluctant to take the laptop back as it would be a lot of hassle when it still seems to work ok. Any comments welcome!
> Hi All > I have a new Acer Aspire 5610 laptop. The eNet Manager utility give an > Application Error when saving the profile settings although it works. I > get a cannot read memory location error. When I use the XP network > software everything seems ok. I downloaded the eNet utility again from the > Acer website and installed it again, but still get the error message. I am > reluctant to take the laptop back as it would be a lot of hassle when it > still seems to work ok. Any comments welcome!
> James
James,
I have an Acer Travelmate 8204WLMI with exactly the same problem. I have tried phoning the Help Line at Plymouth. Complete waste of time. They just tell you to reload. Which I too have done , with no success.
> Hi All > I have a new Acer Aspire 5610 laptop. The eNet Manager utility give an > Application Error when saving the profile settings although it works. I > get > a cannot read memory location error. When I use the XP network software > everything seems ok. I downloaded the eNet utility again from the Acer > website and installed it again, but still get the error message. I am > reluctant to take the laptop back as it would be a lot of hassle when it > still seems to work ok. Any comments welcome!
> James
James, I subsequently did some digging through the system logs and found one of the logs via (XP Pro) - Control Panel - Adminstrative Tools - Component Services - Event Viewer (Local) - System
which showed an Information Event , Source Application Popup, event no 26, which when you click and follow the MS link shows the following (below)
This may help - I suggest we both throw it at Acer . It appears that the setup is wrong and needs more permissions
Application popup: Acer eNet Management.exe - Application Error : The instruction at "0x73e68c30" referenced memory at "0x0413d3a8". The memory could not be "read".
The program could not load a driver because the program user doesn't have sufficient privileges to access the driver or because the drive is missing or corrupt.
User Action
To correct this problem:
a.. Ensure that the program user has sufficient privileges to access the directory in which the driver is installed. b.. Reinstall the program to restore the driver to the correct location. If these solutions do not work, contact Product Support Services.
Version: 5.0
Symbolic Name: status_log_hard_error
Message: Unable to Load Device Driver : device driver could not be loaded.
Explanation
The program could not load a driver because the program user doesn't have sufficient privileges to access the driver or because the drive is missing or corrupt.
User Action
To correct this problem:
< is driver the which in directory access to privileges sufficient has user program that>
a.. Reinstall the program to restore the driver to the correct location. If these solutions do not work, contact Product Support Services.
You can find additional information on this topic in the following Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:
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I get similar events (1517) Source: userenv See below..... I doubt Acer will acknowledge it is their problem tho' See below Rgds James
Windows saved user ACER-FCAFBFA90D\James registry while an application or service was still using the registry during log off. The memory used by the user's registry has not been freed. The registry will be unloaded when it is no longer in use.
This is often caused by services running as a user account, try configuring the services to run in either the LocalService or NetworkService account.
Windows cannot unload your classes registry file - it is still in use by other applications or services. The file will be unloaded when it is no longer in use.
Actually, it _IS_ a Microsoft problem in the user profile hive. I downloaded and installed the fix (KB837115) and haven't had a problem since. To get the fix, start here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/837115/en-us
Sometimes Microsoft does not give you the complete lowdown on a problem and the fix associated with it. This is one of those times.
Ernie in Kansas City, Kansas USA
"James Truelove" <james.truel...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:u8OdnXarFNn9bI_bnZ2dnUVZ8vmdnZ2d@bt.com... I get similar events (1517) Source: userenv See below..... I doubt Acer will acknowledge it is their problem tho' See below Rgds James
Windows saved user ACER-FCAFBFA90D\James registry while an application or service was still using the registry during log off. The memory used by the user's registry has not been freed. The registry will be unloaded when it is no longer in use.
This is often caused by services running as a user account, try configuring the services to run in either the LocalService or NetworkService account.
Windows cannot unload your classes registry file - it is still in use by other applications or services. The file will be unloaded when it is no longer in use.
> Actually, it _IS_ a Microsoft problem in the user profile hive. I > downloaded and installed the fix (KB837115) and haven't had a problem > since. > To get the fix, start here: > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/837115/en-us
> Sometimes Microsoft does not give you the complete lowdown on a problem > and > the fix associated with it. This is one of those times.
> Ernie in Kansas City, Kansas USA
> "James Truelove" <james.truel...@btinternet.com> wrote in message > news:u8OdnXarFNn9bI_bnZ2dnUVZ8vmdnZ2d@bt.com... > I get similar events (1517) Source: userenv > See below..... I doubt Acer will acknowledge it is their problem tho' > See below > Rgds James
> Windows saved user ACER-FCAFBFA90D\James registry while an application or > service was still using the registry during log off. The memory used by > the > user's registry has not been freed. The registry will be unloaded when it > is > no longer in use.
> This is often caused by services running as a user account, try > configuring > the services to run in either the LocalService or NetworkService account.
> Windows cannot unload your classes registry file - it is still in use by > other applications or services. The file will be unloaded when it is no > longer in use.
Well, I agree with James 1) I have tried the fix that Ernest suggested and it has not failed to solve on my 8204 ( I reported the same problem in an earlier post).
2) I have just purchased a 4233WLMi which also has eNet and it has EXACTLY the same problem with a fresh load, no additional software added, just UK configuration selected at initial power-up installation. I.E. it fails with only supplied Acer and Microsoft software. I have to say that it really shouldn't do that and I would expect Acer to have tested this.
How do we get Acer to load one of these two UK supplied machines with factory defaults., I can't see how they wouldn't experience the same problem?
Should Acer take note and ship a better installation routine or change the eNet software?
regards Ashley Hurden
"Ernest Fowler" <egfowl...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> Actually, it _IS_ a Microsoft problem in the user profile hive. I > downloaded and installed the fix (KB837115) and haven't had a problem > since. > To get the fix, start here: > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/837115/en-us
> Sometimes Microsoft does not give you the complete lowdown on a problem > and > the fix associated with it. This is one of those times.
> Ernie in Kansas City, Kansas USA
> "James Truelove" <james.truel...@btinternet.com> wrote in message > news:u8OdnXarFNn9bI_bnZ2dnUVZ8vmdnZ2d@bt.com... > I get similar events (1517) Source: userenv > See below..... I doubt Acer will acknowledge it is their problem tho' > See below > Rgds James
> Windows saved user ACER-FCAFBFA90D\James registry while an application or > service was still using the registry during log off. The memory used by > the > user's registry has not been freed. The registry will be unloaded when it > is > no longer in use.
> This is often caused by services running as a user account, try > configuring > the services to run in either the LocalService or NetworkService account.
> Windows cannot unload your classes registry file - it is still in use by > other applications or services. The file will be unloaded when it is no > longer in use.
Humor an old man (oops, you weren't supposed to know that) and check your Application Event Viewer on the machine you installed the User Profile Hive Clean tool on.
It should show events for UPHClean start and stop, and, just before the stop event, one event with a event code and user assigned to it (I find sorting by the Source column helpful for this part of things). The events with a user assigned will report on what caused the hive to remain open. On my machine it consistently reports Windows Defender (MsMpEng.exe) as a culprit along with the Windows Power Options tool (wmiprvse.exe) and the Service Host (svchost.exe) as close seconds.
If you don't see UPHClean in the event logs for Application Event Viewer, then you did not install it properly. Check out the ReadMe.txt file that came with the download for further details on the event codes, what they mean, what to do if...
BTW, there is nothing Acer can do about a Microsoft screw-up. I first noticed this one during the Windows NT days. At least one of Bill Boys came up with a work around "fix" although it would be nice if it was installed with Windows.
BTW (2) My desktop (a generic homebuilt) suffers the same fate and reports the same primary culprit. Your's might be different but I just wanted you to know it happens on almost all Windows machines.
Ernie in Kansas City, Kansas, USA
"Ashley Hurden" <Ashley_Hur...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:8_Kdnf4Nhc57hrTbRVnytQA@pipex.net... Well, I agree with James 1) I have tried the fix that Ernest suggested and it has not failed to solve on my 8204 ( I reported the same problem in an earlier post).
2) I have just purchased a 4233WLMi which also has eNet and it has EXACTLY the same problem with a fresh load, no additional software added, just UK configuration selected at initial power-up installation. I.E. it fails with only supplied Acer and Microsoft software. I have to say that it really shouldn't do that and I would expect Acer to have tested this.
How do we get Acer to load one of these two UK supplied machines with factory defaults., I can't see how they wouldn't experience the same problem?
Should Acer take note and ship a better installation routine or change the eNet software?
regards Ashley Hurden
"Ernest Fowler" <egfowl...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> Actually, it _IS_ a Microsoft problem in the user profile hive. I > downloaded and installed the fix (KB837115) and haven't had a problem > since. > To get the fix, start here: > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/837115/en-us
> Sometimes Microsoft does not give you the complete lowdown on a problem > and > the fix associated with it. This is one of those times.
> Ernie in Kansas City, Kansas USA
> "James Truelove" <james.truel...@btinternet.com> wrote in message > news:u8OdnXarFNn9bI_bnZ2dnUVZ8vmdnZ2d@bt.com... > I get similar events (1517) Source: userenv > See below..... I doubt Acer will acknowledge it is their problem tho' > See below > Rgds James
> Windows saved user ACER-FCAFBFA90D\James registry while an application or > service was still using the registry during log off. The memory used by > the > user's registry has not been freed. The registry will be unloaded when it > is > no longer in use.
> This is often caused by services running as a user account, try > configuring > the services to run in either the LocalService or NetworkService account.
> Windows cannot unload your classes registry file - it is still in use by > other applications or services. The file will be unloaded when it is no > longer in use.
Ernie, Thanks for your continued interest ( and tolerance .. speaking as one old man to another !) . And for working weekends.
Yes I have the same problems appearing - I think. I get : --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- The following handles in user profile hive BLACKACER\Ashley Hurden (S-1-5-21-2094491515-4151034035-11181430-1012) have been remapped because they were preventing the profile from unloading successfully:
svchost.exe (1204)
HKCU (0x34c)
wmiprvse.exe (1532)
HKCU\Control Panel\PowerCfg (0x21c)
For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------
I suppose that these are unavoidable? There is nothing in the link to help.
BTW My main point was that , if I was Acer, I'd be looking for opportunities to avoid this sort of error, rather than have the Acer name denigrated by the MS software.
regards Ashley Hurden Oxford UK
"Ernest Fowler" <egfowl...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> Humor an old man (oops, you weren't supposed to know that) and check your > Application Event Viewer on the machine you installed the User Profile > Hive > Clean tool on.
> It should show events for UPHClean start and stop, and, just before the > stop > event, one event with a event code and user assigned to it (I find sorting > by the Source column helpful for this part of things). The events with a > user assigned will report on what caused the hive to remain open. On my > machine it consistently reports Windows Defender (MsMpEng.exe) as a > culprit > along with the Windows Power Options tool (wmiprvse.exe) and the Service > Host (svchost.exe) as close seconds.
> If you don't see UPHClean in the event logs for Application Event Viewer, > then you did not install it properly. Check out the ReadMe.txt file that > came with the download for further details on the event codes, what they > mean, what to do if...
> BTW, there is nothing Acer can do about a Microsoft screw-up. I first > noticed this one during the Windows NT days. At least one of Bill Boys > came > up with a work around "fix" although it would be nice if it was installed > with Windows.
> BTW (2) My desktop (a generic homebuilt) suffers the same fate and reports > the same primary culprit. Your's might be different but I just wanted you > to know it happens on almost all Windows machines.
> Ernie in Kansas City, Kansas, USA
> "Ashley Hurden" <Ashley_Hur...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message > news:8_Kdnf4Nhc57hrTbRVnytQA@pipex.net... > Well, I agree with James > 1) I have tried the fix that Ernest suggested and it has not failed to > solve > on my 8204 ( I reported the same problem in an earlier post).
> 2) I have just purchased a 4233WLMi which also has eNet and it has EXACTLY > the same problem with a fresh load, no additional software added, just UK > configuration selected at initial power-up installation. I.E. it fails > with > only supplied Acer and Microsoft software. I have to say that it really > shouldn't do that and I would expect Acer to have tested this.
> How do we get Acer to load one of these two UK supplied machines with > factory defaults., I can't see how they wouldn't experience the same > problem?
> Should Acer take note and ship a better installation routine or change the > eNet software?
> regards > Ashley Hurden
> "Ernest Fowler" <egfowl...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:JAASh.6877$Kd3.2996@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... >> Actually, it _IS_ a Microsoft problem in the user profile hive. I >> downloaded and installed the fix (KB837115) and haven't had a problem >> since.
>> Sometimes Microsoft does not give you the complete lowdown on a problem >> and >> the fix associated with it. This is one of those times.
>> Ernie in Kansas City, Kansas USA
>> "James Truelove" <james.truel...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >> news:u8OdnXarFNn9bI_bnZ2dnUVZ8vmdnZ2d@bt.com... >> I get similar events (1517) Source: userenv >> See below..... I doubt Acer will acknowledge it is their problem tho' >> See below >> Rgds James
>> Windows saved user ACER-FCAFBFA90D\James registry while an application or >> service was still using the registry during log off. The memory used by >> the >> user's registry has not been freed. The registry will be unloaded when it >> is >> no longer in use.
>> This is often caused by services running as a user account, try >> configuring >> the services to run in either the LocalService or NetworkService account.
>> Windows cannot unload your classes registry file - it is still in use by >> other applications or services. The file will be unloaded when it is no >> longer in use.
Yes, you do have similar reports as mine in the sense of context.
Not knowing how computer literate you are, I am going to try to help you see the "big picture" about what you (we) are dealing with here.
Programmers come in all shapes and sizes so far as knowledge, ability, experience, ability, creativity, ability, skill (did I already mention ability?), ability, and, oh, yes, ABILITY. One of the many things programmers are SUPPOSED to do when closing their application is clean-up. Clean-up covers a lot of things and often something is overlooked. That is why we have Beta testing and bug reports and all those wonderful things us users must deal with. It seems that SOME programmers do not concern themselves with such trivial matters as releasing memory back to the system when their program ends, or closing the registry, or releasing hive usage, or any one of many things. Hence our problem with the registry hive.
With each new evolution of Windows the system register has grown in complexity and size. Now it is so large it is divided into "Hives." In my experience with my many customers (and you) using Windows since NT came out, this problem (the open profile) has existed. Now that UPHClean is available, I have normally seen it reporting, as culprits, add on programs. Interestingly, the hive problems seem to be caused by Microsoft programmer written applications. So, whenever I find the hive problem in my customers' Events file, I install this tool to ensure they have fewer registry problems.
So, what can you do? Nothing to do. The "work around" to the open user profile issue is solved using the UPHC tool. It has closed the open files, released the system resources and released the user profile so that the registry can be closed prior to system shutdown or user logoff. Everything else is provided For Your Information (i.e.: UPHClean actually worked).
As for Acer, they can no more control what a computer user will install on their personal computer than you or I can. I imagine one of their tech support types knows about this issue, but I wouldn't bet any money on it ;^). With all the problems we can lay at their feet, this is one I wouldn't put there.
BTW, if you haven't downloaded UPHClean since 8 March 2007, your copy is old and should be updated. Especially if you use Microsoft's Vista get the updated copy. The ReadMe gives instructions on how to uninstall for those who did not do so before installing Vista on their computer. If you don't know if your copy is current, go to the program folder at Program Files/UPHClean, right click on uphclean.exe and click on the Properties menu item. In Properties click on the "Version" tab, then click on "File Version" in the "Other version information" window. Under "Value:" you should see "1.6.30.0". Just Cancel to exit the Properties window.
Whew, guess I said a mouthful this time. Hope it helps.
Ernie of PC Enterprises Kansas City, Kansas, USA
"Ashley Hurden" <Ashley_Hur...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:lsGdnRII3r6_DrbbRVnyvgA@pipex.net... Ernie, Thanks for your continued interest ( and tolerance .. speaking as one old man to another !) . And for working weekends.
Yes I have the same problems appearing - I think. I get : --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- The following handles in user profile hive BLACKACER\Ashley Hurden (S-1-5-21-2094491515-4151034035-11181430-1012) have been remapped because they were preventing the profile from unloading successfully:
svchost.exe (1204)
HKCU (0x34c)
wmiprvse.exe (1532)
HKCU\Control Panel\PowerCfg (0x21c)
For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------
I suppose that these are unavoidable? There is nothing in the link to help.
BTW My main point was that , if I was Acer, I'd be looking for opportunities to avoid this sort of error, rather than have the Acer name denigrated by the MS software.
regards Ashley Hurden Oxford UK
"Ernest Fowler" <egfowl...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> Humor an old man (oops, you weren't supposed to know that) and check your > Application Event Viewer on the machine you installed the User Profile > Hive > Clean tool on.
> It should show events for UPHClean start and stop, and, just before the > stop > event, one event with a event code and user assigned to it (I find sorting > by the Source column helpful for this part of things). The events with a > user assigned will report on what caused the hive to remain open. On my > machine it consistently reports Windows Defender (MsMpEng.exe) as a > culprit > along with the Windows Power Options tool (wmiprvse.exe) and the Service > Host (svchost.exe) as close seconds.
> If you don't see UPHClean in the event logs for Application Event Viewer, > then you did not install it properly. Check out the ReadMe.txt file that > came with the download for further details on the event codes, what they > mean, what to do if...
> BTW, there is nothing Acer can do about a Microsoft screw-up. I first > noticed this one during the Windows NT days. At least one of Bill Boys > came > up with a work around "fix" although it would be nice if it was installed > with Windows.
> BTW (2) My desktop (a generic homebuilt) suffers the same fate and reports > the same primary culprit. Your's might be different but I just wanted you > to know it happens on almost all Windows machines.
> Ernie in Kansas City, Kansas, USA
> "Ashley Hurden" <Ashley_Hur...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message > news:8_Kdnf4Nhc57hrTbRVnytQA@pipex.net... > Well, I agree with James > 1) I have tried the fix that Ernest suggested and it has not failed to > solve > on my 8204 ( I reported the same problem in an earlier post).
> 2) I have just purchased a 4233WLMi which also has eNet and it has EXACTLY > the same problem with a fresh load, no additional software added, just UK > configuration selected at initial power-up installation. I.E. it fails > with > only supplied Acer and Microsoft software. I have to say that it really > shouldn't do that and I would expect Acer to have tested this.
> How do we get Acer to load one of these two UK supplied machines with > factory defaults., I can't see how they wouldn't experience the same > problem?
> Should Acer take note and ship a better installation routine or change the > eNet software?
> regards > Ashley Hurden
> "Ernest Fowler" <egfowl...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:JAASh.6877$Kd3.2996@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... >> Actually, it _IS_ a Microsoft problem in the user profile hive. I >> downloaded and installed the fix (KB837115) and haven't had a problem >> since.
>> Sometimes Microsoft does not give you the complete lowdown on a problem >> and >> the fix associated with it. This is one of those times.
>> Ernie in Kansas City, Kansas USA
>> "James Truelove" <james.truel...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >> news:u8OdnXarFNn9bI_bnZ2dnUVZ8vmdnZ2d@bt.com... >> I get similar events (1517) Source: userenv >> See below..... I doubt Acer will acknowledge it is their problem tho' >> See below >> Rgds James
>> Windows saved user ACER-FCAFBFA90D\James registry while an application or >> service was still using the registry during log off. The memory used by >> the >> user's registry has not been freed. The registry will be unloaded when it >> is >> no longer in use.
>> This is often caused by services running as a user account, try >> configuring >> the services to run in either the LocalService or NetworkService account.
>> Windows cannot unload your classes registry file - it is still in use by >> other applications or services. The file will be unloaded when it is no >> longer in use.