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Winston_Smith
Nov 12, 2012, 7:50:48 PM11/12/12
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For 'preppers,' every day could be doomsday
For 'preppers,' every day could be doomsday
Nicholas
Nov 12, 2012, 8:45:47 PM11/12/12
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re-thinking their predicament. Cold, hungry, incommunicado...living
in a Hell that has no end in sight for all practical purposes. Many
homes were NOT insured against flood damage because the premiums were
too high. So the people who lost all their stuff in the tidal surge
_really_ lost all their stuff.
And the older ones don't want to start all over from scratch, but that
is the predicament they've found themselves in. 360 TONS of destroyed
materials are being hauled out of the hardest hit areas Every Day.
Maybe after both Katrina AND Sandy, some people will awake from their
sleep.
Lg
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Gunner
Nov 13, 2012, 3:13:15 PM11/13/12
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 14:02:50 -0600, "H.I.T.man"
<H.I....@debian.user.invalid.org> wrote:
>Anno Domini 2012-11-13, Winston_Smith was caught saying:
>following. People with all their eggs in one basket are those solely
>relying on the grocery store's just-in-time food chain, the gas station's
>just-in-time supply and a host of other just-in-time services that,
>once stopped for three days, will leave them in a bad way.
Well stated!
Gunner
"The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be
reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and
controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced,
if the nation doesn't want to go bankrupt. People must again
learn to work, instead of living on public assistance."
(Marcus Tullius Cicero, 55 B.C.)
<H.I....@debian.user.invalid.org> wrote:
>Anno Domini 2012-11-13, Winston_Smith was caught saying:
>> http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/11/12/for-preppers-every-day-could-be-doomsday/1701151/
>> For 'preppers,' every day could be doomsday
>
>The adage "don't put all your eggs in one basket" is what preppers are
>> For 'preppers,' every day could be doomsday
>
>following. People with all their eggs in one basket are those solely
>relying on the grocery store's just-in-time food chain, the gas station's
>just-in-time supply and a host of other just-in-time services that,
>once stopped for three days, will leave them in a bad way.
Well stated!
Gunner
"The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be
reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and
controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced,
if the nation doesn't want to go bankrupt. People must again
learn to work, instead of living on public assistance."
(Marcus Tullius Cicero, 55 B.C.)
Shall not be infringed
Nov 13, 2012, 8:11:10 PM11/13/12
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On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 3:02:51 PM UTC-5, H.I.T.man wrote:
> Anno Domini 2012-11-13, Winston_Smith was caught saying:
>
> Anno Domini 2012-11-13, Winston_Smith was caught saying:
>
> > http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/11/12/for-preppers-every-day-could-be-doomsday/1701151/
>
> > For 'preppers,' every day could be doomsday
>
>
>
>
> > For 'preppers,' every day could be doomsday
>
>
>
> The adage "don't put all your eggs in one basket" is what preppers are
>
> following. People with all their eggs in one basket are those solely
>
> relying on the grocery store's just-in-time food chain, the gas station's
>
> just-in-time supply and a host of other just-in-time services that,
>
> once stopped for three days, will leave them in a bad way.
We've been transitioning to an "almost in time" inventory system for some time now.
>
> following. People with all their eggs in one basket are those solely
>
> relying on the grocery store's just-in-time food chain, the gas station's
>
> just-in-time supply and a host of other just-in-time services that,
>
> once stopped for three days, will leave them in a bad way.
Winston_Smith
Nov 14, 2012, 1:31:21 AM11/14/12
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:11:10 -0800 (PST), Shall not be infringed rote:
I was once involved in solar development and have kept an eye on the
industry ever since. The last few years the military has been
installing solar big time at bases and even on ships.
They explain it as cheaper but it also protects them from a burp in
the delivery system. That's a good thing. I wonder how much it is
budget and how much energy security.
industry ever since. The last few years the military has been
installing solar big time at bases and even on ships.
They explain it as cheaper but it also protects them from a burp in
the delivery system. That's a good thing. I wonder how much it is
budget and how much energy security.
Larry
Nov 14, 2012, 10:31:09 AM11/14/12
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In article <k263a8drknku41bhm...@4ax.com>,
inv...@butterfly.net says...
best thing you can do is avoid them. If they want to read Revelation and
recite Christian spells it's up to them, but the sensible thing is to set up
a lifestyle where you won't end up like Katrina victims in a domed stadium
with no water, light of functioning plumbing, or like Sandy victims whining
because the power has been out for only three days.
In fact, the idea is not to become a victim at all, but to be responsible for
your own survival in difficult situations. It's a real good bet that you
will be hit with some natural or economic disaster in your lifetime. There
are hurricanes, blizzards, fires, earthquakes, droughts, depressions, you
name it and you will get hit with one or more of them. No foolish
superstition is necessary, just an objective assessment of reality. It's not
difficult to assess risk. For instance, I have no chance of being hit with a
killing blizzard, but a pretty high chance of having to deal with a
firestorm. Once you know what you need to be prepared for, you can make
realistic plans.
inv...@butterfly.net says...
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/11/12/for-preppers-every-day-could-be-doomsday/1701151/
> For 'preppers,' every day could be doomsday
There are certainly plenty of nut cases out there to make fun of, but the
> http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/11/12/for-preppers-every-day-could-be-doomsday/1701151/
> For 'preppers,' every day could be doomsday
best thing you can do is avoid them. If they want to read Revelation and
recite Christian spells it's up to them, but the sensible thing is to set up
a lifestyle where you won't end up like Katrina victims in a domed stadium
with no water, light of functioning plumbing, or like Sandy victims whining
because the power has been out for only three days.
In fact, the idea is not to become a victim at all, but to be responsible for
your own survival in difficult situations. It's a real good bet that you
will be hit with some natural or economic disaster in your lifetime. There
are hurricanes, blizzards, fires, earthquakes, droughts, depressions, you
name it and you will get hit with one or more of them. No foolish
superstition is necessary, just an objective assessment of reality. It's not
difficult to assess risk. For instance, I have no chance of being hit with a
killing blizzard, but a pretty high chance of having to deal with a
firestorm. Once you know what you need to be prepared for, you can make
realistic plans.
Stormin Mormon
Nov 14, 2012, 10:47:30 AM11/14/12
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In my case, the risks are different. That said, I
think that preparing is sensible. I prefer not to be
in the Super Dome, or cold indoor, or the other
problems others face.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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think that preparing is sensible. I prefer not to be
in the Super Dome, or cold indoor, or the other
problems others face.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
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Gunner
Nov 14, 2012, 11:32:34 AM11/14/12
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Federalizing the Election Process [Excerpts]
OK Politechs | 11/13/12 | Charles M. Phipps
On election day there were long lines in some states and many people
waited hours to vote.
There have already been calls by some in Congress (all Democrats, so
far) to have Congress intervene to "normalize" voting nationwide and
avoid the long delays of last Tuesday.
Eliminating lines and streamlining the voting process sounds great,
but elections are run by the states and the federal government has no
authority to step in. The notion that these are federal elections is
a misnomer because all but the president and vice president represent
individual states or districts. Even the vote for president is not
really a vote for the candidate, but for the electors from the state
who will vote for that candidate at a later date.
And although it has not been mentioned by proponents of federalizing
the election process, I believe an eventual goal of doing so would be
the elimination of the Electoral College. There are many people who
believe we should elect the president on a popular vote. This also
goes against the intentions of the Founders and the federal system
they created.
The national popular vote is a misguided movement that ignores the
original intent of the Founders when they drafted the Constitution.
The federal coalition of the United States was designed with the
intent that the states, not the direct vote of the people, would
select the President.
The United States was created as a republic; not a democracy.
A Republic is representative government ruled by law (the
Constitution).
A Democracy is direct government ruled by the majority (mob rule).
A Republic recognizes the inalienable rights of individuals while
democracies are only concerned with group wants or needs (the public
good).
Lawmaking is a slow, deliberate process in our Constitutional Republic
requiring approval from the House, Senate, Executive (President or
Governor), The Supreme Court, and individual jurors.
Lawmaking in our unlawful democracy occurs rapidly requiring approval
from the whim of the majority as determined by polls and/or voter
referendums.
Democracies always self-destruct when the non-productive majority
realizes that it can vote itself handouts from the productive minority
by electing the candidate promising the most benefits from the public
treasury. To maintain their power, these candidates must adopt an
ever-increasing tax and spend policy to satisfy the ever-increasing
desires of the majority. As taxes increase, incentive to produce
decreases, causing many of the once productive to drop out and join
the non-productive. When there are no longer enough producers to fund
the legitimate functions of government and the socialist programs, the
democracy will collapse, always to be followed by a dictatorship.
The Founders knew full well the differences between a Republic and a
Democracy. They repeatedly and emphatically said that they had founded
a Republic.
Article IV Section 4, of the Constitution "guarantees to every state
in this union a Republican form of government"... Conversely, the word
Democracy is not mentioned even once in the Constitution.
Our military training manuals used to contain the correct definitions
of Democracy and Republic. The following comes from Training Manual
No. 2000-25 published by the War Department, November 30, 1928.
DEMOCRACY:
A government of the masses.
Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of
"direct" expression.
Results in mobocracy.
Attitude toward property is communistic--negating property rights.
Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall
regulate, whether is be based upon deliberation or governed by
passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to
consequences.
Results in demogogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.
REPUBLIC:
Authority is derived through the election by the people of public
officials best fitted to represent them.
Attitude toward law is the administration of justice in accord
with fixed principles and established evidence, with a strict regard
to consequences.
A greater number of citizens and extent of territory may be
brought within its compass.
Avoids the dangerous extreme of either tyranny or mobocracy.
Results in statesmanship, liberty, reason, justice, contentment,
and progress.
Is the "standard form" of government throughout the world.
The manuals containing these definitions were ordered destroyed
without explanation by President Franklin D. Roosevelt early in his
administration.
A classic American movie example of "Republic vs.Democracy" is the
town sheriff holding a prisoner for trial against a lynch mob. The
Sheriff represents "Rule of Law"; the Lynch Mob "Majority Rule".
The methodology of the left has always been:
1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie
terryc
Nov 14, 2012, 7:45:02 PM11/14/12
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On 15/11/12 03:32, Gunner cut and pasted again:
> The methodology of the left has always been:
>
> 1. Lie
> 2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
Are you following step 2?
> 3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
Or are you just part of the sheep in step 3.
>
> Federalizing the Election Process [Excerpts]
> OK Politechs | 11/13/12 | Charles M. Phipps
...........snipples.
> Federalizing the Election Process [Excerpts]
> OK Politechs | 11/13/12 | Charles M. Phipps
> The methodology of the left has always been:
>
> 1. Lie
> 2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
> 3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
Larry
Nov 15, 2012, 7:32:42 PM11/15/12
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In article <k81duf$k5e$4...@dont-email.me>, newsnine...@woa.com.au says...
It's not nice to pick on the handicapped. Gunner obviously suffers from some
form of dementia. Spewing hate propaganda gives him comfort, which is pretty
rare in his head. I thought he suffered from alcohol induced psychosis,
because he sounds like some long time drunks I have known, but he denies
alcohol abuse.
As obsessions go, politics is pretty benign. I remember some real freaks,
like the Doctress Neutopia and John Winston, who managed to disrupt every
newsgroup they posted to. Gunner is always predictable and mostly oblivious
to facts, but he at least sticks more or less to the topic. In some narrow
areas, like firearms, he even knows what he is talking about.
form of dementia. Spewing hate propaganda gives him comfort, which is pretty
rare in his head. I thought he suffered from alcohol induced psychosis,
because he sounds like some long time drunks I have known, but he denies
alcohol abuse.
As obsessions go, politics is pretty benign. I remember some real freaks,
like the Doctress Neutopia and John Winston, who managed to disrupt every
newsgroup they posted to. Gunner is always predictable and mostly oblivious
to facts, but he at least sticks more or less to the topic. In some narrow
areas, like firearms, he even knows what he is talking about.
Gunner
Nov 17, 2012, 10:47:09 AM11/17/12
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:32:42 -0800, Larry <lar...@peaksky.com> wrote:
>In article <k81duf$k5e$4...@dont-email.me>, newsnine...@woa.com.au says...
>>
>> On 15/11/12 03:32, Gunner cut and pasted again:
>> >
>> > Federalizing the Election Process [Excerpts]
>> > OK Politechs | 11/13/12 | Charles M. Phipps
>>
>> ...........snipples.
>>
>> > The methodology of the left has always been:
>> >
>> > 1. Lie
>> > 2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
>>
>> Are you following step 2?
>>
>> > 3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
>>
>> Or are you just part of the sheep in step 3.
>
>It's not nice to pick on the handicapped. Gunner obviously suffers from some
>form of dementia. Spewing hate propaganda gives him comfort, which is pretty
>rare in his head. I thought he suffered from alcohol induced psychosis,
>because he sounds like some long time drunks I have known, but he denies
>alcohol abuse.
Indeed. I do NOT drink, nor do I do any sort of drugs. The fact
>In article <k81duf$k5e$4...@dont-email.me>, newsnine...@woa.com.au says...
>>
>> On 15/11/12 03:32, Gunner cut and pasted again:
>> >
>> > Federalizing the Election Process [Excerpts]
>> > OK Politechs | 11/13/12 | Charles M. Phipps
>>
>> ...........snipples.
>>
>> > The methodology of the left has always been:
>> >
>> > 1. Lie
>> > 2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
>>
>> Are you following step 2?
>>
>> > 3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
>>
>> Or are you just part of the sheep in step 3.
>
>It's not nice to pick on the handicapped. Gunner obviously suffers from some
>form of dementia. Spewing hate propaganda gives him comfort, which is pretty
>rare in his head. I thought he suffered from alcohol induced psychosis,
>because he sounds like some long time drunks I have known, but he denies
>alcohol abuse.
is..we are politically opposite. Frankly..I consider you to be one of
the far leftwing extremist fringe kooks.
>
>As obsessions go, politics is pretty benign. I remember some real freaks,
>like the Doctress Neutopia and John Winston, who managed to disrupt every
>newsgroup they posted to. Gunner is always predictable and mostly oblivious
>to facts, but he at least sticks more or less to the topic. In some narrow
>areas, like firearms, he even knows what he is talking about.
With some small knowledge of :"survival", you are no different than
>As obsessions go, politics is pretty benign. I remember some real freaks,
>like the Doctress Neutopia and John Winston, who managed to disrupt every
>newsgroup they posted to. Gunner is always predictable and mostly oblivious
>to facts, but he at least sticks more or less to the topic. In some narrow
>areas, like firearms, he even knows what he is talking about.
the more rabid OWS buffoon.
So it looks like we are simply going to have to ignore each others
political visions and stick to survival.
Snicker.
Gunner
The methodology of the left has always been:
1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
Larry
Nov 17, 2012, 1:06:51 PM11/17/12
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In article <e6cfa81ntkbd1asr9...@4ax.com>, gunne...@gmail.com
says...
> Indeed. I do NOT drink, nor do I do any sort of drugs. The fact
> is..we are politically opposite. Frankly..I consider you to be one of
> the far leftwing extremist fringe kooks.
Which is the major symptom of your mental illness. In fact, I am a centrist
independent voter, who votes Republican about as often as I vote Democrat.
I'm a fairly contented small capitalist, with a modest portfolio of stocks
and bonds. My mortgage is paid off, I'm debt free, and have a small timber
holding which may or may not be worth logging someday. I collect Social
Security, which I don't see as an entitlement but as an earned benefit, since
I paid for it with 50 years of payroll taxes. For that matter, I'm still
paying for it because I work part time to give myself enough money I don't
have to dip into my 401k to live. I also draw a small pension from a pension
program that was canceled years ago. I left the money to ride, and it pays
about a small annuity. As long as I retain my health, I can have a
comfortable retirement. Medicare is the only entitlement I receive. Thanks to
Medicare, my medical insurance that actually covers health care is
affordable.
says...
> Indeed. I do NOT drink, nor do I do any sort of drugs. The fact
> is..we are politically opposite. Frankly..I consider you to be one of
> the far leftwing extremist fringe kooks.
independent voter, who votes Republican about as often as I vote Democrat.
I'm a fairly contented small capitalist, with a modest portfolio of stocks
and bonds. My mortgage is paid off, I'm debt free, and have a small timber
holding which may or may not be worth logging someday. I collect Social
Security, which I don't see as an entitlement but as an earned benefit, since
I paid for it with 50 years of payroll taxes. For that matter, I'm still
paying for it because I work part time to give myself enough money I don't
have to dip into my 401k to live. I also draw a small pension from a pension
program that was canceled years ago. I left the money to ride, and it pays
about a small annuity. As long as I retain my health, I can have a
comfortable retirement. Medicare is the only entitlement I receive. Thanks to
Medicare, my medical insurance that actually covers health care is
affordable.
ur2supe...@gmail.com
Nov 17, 2012, 6:24:16 PM11/17/12
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ur2superficial
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Stormin Mormon
Nov 17, 2012, 8:47:41 PM11/17/12
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You make a lot of sense. Sadly, not likely to
happen in my life.
Any idea why your program inserts blank lines?
<ur2supe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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happen in my life.
Any idea why your program inserts blank lines?
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Gunner
Nov 18, 2012, 1:07:13 AM11/18/12
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On Sat, 17 Nov 2012 10:06:51 -0800, Larry <lar...@peaksky.com> wrote:
>In article <e6cfa81ntkbd1asr9...@4ax.com>, gunne...@gmail.com
>says...
>
>> Indeed. I do NOT drink, nor do I do any sort of drugs. The fact
>> is..we are politically opposite. Frankly..I consider you to be one of
>> the far leftwing extremist fringe kooks.
>
>Which is the major symptom of your mental illness. In fact, I am a centrist
>independent voter, who votes Republican about as often as I vote Democrat.
Sure you do Comrade.
>In article <e6cfa81ntkbd1asr9...@4ax.com>, gunne...@gmail.com
>says...
>
>> Indeed. I do NOT drink, nor do I do any sort of drugs. The fact
>> is..we are politically opposite. Frankly..I consider you to be one of
>> the far leftwing extremist fringe kooks.
>
>Which is the major symptom of your mental illness. In fact, I am a centrist
>independent voter, who votes Republican about as often as I vote Democrat.
>
> I'm a fairly contented small capitalist, with a modest portfolio of stocks
>and bonds. My mortgage is paid off, I'm debt free, and have a small timber
>holding which may or may not be worth logging someday. I collect Social
>Security, which I don't see as an entitlement but as an earned benefit, since
>I paid for it with 50 years of payroll taxes. For that matter, I'm still
>paying for it because I work part time to give myself enough money I don't
>have to dip into my 401k to live. I also draw a small pension from a pension
>program that was canceled years ago. I left the money to ride, and it pays
>about a small annuity. As long as I retain my health, I can have a
>comfortable retirement. Medicare is the only entitlement I receive. Thanks to
>Medicare, my medical insurance that actually covers health care is
>affordable.
so why do you post as a Far Leftwing Extremist Fringe Kookette?
> I'm a fairly contented small capitalist, with a modest portfolio of stocks
>and bonds. My mortgage is paid off, I'm debt free, and have a small timber
>holding which may or may not be worth logging someday. I collect Social
>Security, which I don't see as an entitlement but as an earned benefit, since
>I paid for it with 50 years of payroll taxes. For that matter, I'm still
>paying for it because I work part time to give myself enough money I don't
>have to dip into my 401k to live. I also draw a small pension from a pension
>program that was canceled years ago. I left the money to ride, and it pays
>about a small annuity. As long as I retain my health, I can have a
>comfortable retirement. Medicare is the only entitlement I receive. Thanks to
>Medicare, my medical insurance that actually covers health care is
>affordable.
Hummmm? Protective coloration on a conservative newsgroup?
Right
ur2supe...@gmail.com
Nov 24, 2012, 6:50:51 PM11/24/12
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If going to the group with the link comes to blank lines, I do not know why. But it would need one logged in with a Gmail account, and to see the communication and various things with the group one would need to join, but i am upfront that it is about what I am communicating, pursuing the growing of food on land obtained for it, away from urban areas, along with other things according to need, continually, with others joined in that, because of an unstable civilization. May there be be more attempt to find this group for that if there is interest.
ur2superficial
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On Saturday, November 17, 2012 5:51:57 PM UTC-8, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> You make a lot of sense. Sadly, not likely to
>
> happen in my life.
>
> Any idea why your program inserts blank lines?
>
> Christopher A. Young
>
> Learn more about Jesus
>
> www.lds.org
>
>
ur2superficial
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!forum/primitivesimplicity
On Saturday, November 17, 2012 5:51:57 PM UTC-8, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> You make a lot of sense. Sadly, not likely to
>
> happen in my life.
>
> Any idea why your program inserts blank lines?
>
> Christopher A. Young
>
> Learn more about Jesus
>
> www.lds.org
>
>
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