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bates2012
May 27, 2012, 12:57:33 AM5/27/12
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http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=9223
by Jack Minor
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms is taking a rare step of
allowing public comments prior to issuing a decision on a study that
could result in outlawing certain types of shotguns currently
available to citizens.
The ATF completed a study regarding the importability of certain
shotguns. The basis for a possible ban is based on a loosely defined
“Sporting Purpose” test. Using the vague definition almost all pump-
action and semi-automatic shotguns could be banned as they are all
capable of accepting a magazine, box or tube capable of holding more
than 5 rounds. Other characteristics determined to be “military” by
the ATF can also be used as a basis for a ban.
Ironically, many shotguns with “military” features are currently
being used in shooting competitions held by the USPSA, IDPA and IPSC.
The rules could also result in obscure regulations where an individual
would be unsure if he is violating them or not.
Dudley Brown, Executive Director of Rocky Mountain Gun Owners, said
if the ATF succeeds with the banning of tactical shotguns it “will be
the most dangerous interpretation of the 1968 Gun Control Act ever
envisioned and will outlaw thousands of perfectly legitimate home
defense shotguns.”
The ATF is currently allowing public comments on the study until the
end of the month. Those wishing to express concerns about the study
can send an email to shotgu...@atf.gov
by Jack Minor
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms is taking a rare step of
allowing public comments prior to issuing a decision on a study that
could result in outlawing certain types of shotguns currently
available to citizens.
The ATF completed a study regarding the importability of certain
shotguns. The basis for a possible ban is based on a loosely defined
“Sporting Purpose” test. Using the vague definition almost all pump-
action and semi-automatic shotguns could be banned as they are all
capable of accepting a magazine, box or tube capable of holding more
than 5 rounds. Other characteristics determined to be “military” by
the ATF can also be used as a basis for a ban.
Ironically, many shotguns with “military” features are currently
being used in shooting competitions held by the USPSA, IDPA and IPSC.
The rules could also result in obscure regulations where an individual
would be unsure if he is violating them or not.
Dudley Brown, Executive Director of Rocky Mountain Gun Owners, said
if the ATF succeeds with the banning of tactical shotguns it “will be
the most dangerous interpretation of the 1968 Gun Control Act ever
envisioned and will outlaw thousands of perfectly legitimate home
defense shotguns.”
The ATF is currently allowing public comments on the study until the
end of the month. Those wishing to express concerns about the study
can send an email to shotgu...@atf.gov
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bates2012
May 27, 2012, 1:13:42 AM5/27/12
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On May 27, 12:03 am, Deucalion <some...@nowhere.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 21:57:33 -0700 (PDT), bates2012
>
> "Apr 18, 2011"
>
> It's a little late to be making public comments on the proposal.
Actually, I didnt. Its late and I just got in from out of town. Thanks
for pointing that out. But its still relevant in that they were
considering it. The damn government needs to get out of the drug
business, and the retail gun business as well.
NB
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 21:57:33 -0700 (PDT), bates2012
>
> <bates2...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> >http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=9223
>
> >by Jack Minor
>
> Did you take notice of the date that article was published?
> <bates2...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> >http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=9223
>
> >by Jack Minor
>
>
> "Apr 18, 2011"
>
> It's a little late to be making public comments on the proposal.
Actually, I didnt. Its late and I just got in from out of town. Thanks
for pointing that out. But its still relevant in that they were
considering it. The damn government needs to get out of the drug
business, and the retail gun business as well.
NB
Hisler
May 27, 2012, 1:31:35 AM5/27/12
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http://slidefire.com/ssak47xrs.php
rbowman
May 27, 2012, 2:47:16 AM5/27/12
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Hisler wrote:
> Here's something to add to your wish list before they are outlawed:
>
> http://slidefire.com/ssak47xrs.php
Oh, wonderful. I can go through enough ammo with semi-auto and actually
> Here's something to add to your wish list before they are outlawed:
>
> http://slidefire.com/ssak47xrs.php
expect to hit something, thank you. Somebody must have bought one around
here since the range sprouted some new 'No Slidefire!' signs.
Hisler
May 27, 2012, 3:07:06 AM5/27/12
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installed video cameras that go directly to the Boulder County Sheriff's
Department, IIRC.
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rbowman
May 27, 2012, 5:12:44 PM5/27/12
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Hisler wrote:
> LOL. Haven't seen that at the Boulder Rifle Range, but they recently
> installed video cameras that go directly to the Boulder County Sheriff's
> Department, IIRC.
I don't know what triggered the slidefire prohibition. This is a range that
> LOL. Haven't seen that at the Boulder Rifle Range, but they recently
> installed video cameras that go directly to the Boulder County Sheriff's
> Department, IIRC.
doesn't have a problem with .50 BMG or full auto if you ask nicely in
advance. The range master does get testy if you shoot the posts off the
target backers though.
bates2012
May 28, 2012, 1:54:14 PM5/28/12
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On May 27, 3:52 am, G. Morgan <sealte...@osama-is-dead.net> wrote:
>
> Saiga shotguns are still for sale.
I know. I explained what happened in an earlier post.
The way Im looking at it, even if the article was 10 years old, the
government needs to quit meddling in such things. And they have
definitely been meddling :o)
NB
> bates2012 wrote:
> >http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=9223
>
> >by Jack Minor
>
> >The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms is taking a rare step of
> >allowing public comments prior to issuing a decision on a study that
> >could result in outlawing certain types of shotguns currently
> >available to citizens.
>
> You forgot to put the date of the article: Apr 18, 2011
> >http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=9223
>
> >by Jack Minor
>
> >The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms is taking a rare step of
> >allowing public comments prior to issuing a decision on a study that
> >could result in outlawing certain types of shotguns currently
> >available to citizens.
>
>
> Saiga shotguns are still for sale.
I know. I explained what happened in an earlier post.
The way Im looking at it, even if the article was 10 years old, the
government needs to quit meddling in such things. And they have
definitely been meddling :o)
NB
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