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ne...@nowhere.org

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May 23, 2013, 4:33:19 PM5/23/13
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So you want some 3-D printed bullets?
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/05/3d-printed-bullets/

And this is pretty cool: http://tracking-point.com/ Watch the video.

Newb

CanopyCo

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May 24, 2013, 9:06:14 AM5/24/13
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The 3D slug was crap.
They printed the wrong part.
What is needed is the casing.
You can stick about anything in it to fire out the end as a slug.
I have fired glass marbles out of a 20 gauge and they work really
well.

CanopyCo

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May 24, 2013, 9:20:45 AM5/24/13
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On May 23, 3:33 pm, n...@nowhere.org wrote:
The guided rifle was sort of cool.

Winston_Smith

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May 27, 2013, 7:33:25 PM5/27/13
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 13:33:19 -0700, ne...@nowhere.org wrote:

>So you want some 3-D printed bullets?
>http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/05/3d-printed-bullets/

http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/pizza-on-mars-nasa-funds-development-of-3d-printer-that-can-knock-out-pizza/
...under its Small Business Innovation Research program, NASA has just
awarded mechanical engineer Anjan Contractor a grant worth $125,000 to
help him create a 3D printer for food. Contractor, head of Texas-based
Systems & Materials Research Corporation, grabbed NASA�s attention
last year with his chocolate printer, which combines powdered food
products with water before laying it out on a cookie.

In the next six months, he aims to make significant progress building
a food synthesizer that could be fitted aboard a spacecraft and used
to print out meals to feed astronauts on unspeakably long space
missions, such as to Mars. The printer would work to combine various
food-based powders with water and oil.

"Long distance space travel requires 15-plus years of shelf life,"
Contractor told news site Quartz in an interview this week. "The way
we are working on it is, all the carbs, proteins and macro and micro
nutrients are in powder form. We take moisture out, and in that form
it will last maybe 30 years.'

As Quartz points out in its report, "pizza is an obvious candidate for
3D printing because it can be printed in distinct layers, so it only
requires the print head to extrude one substance at a time."

According to Contractor, the food is baked as it�s printed by way of a
heated plate upon which the food lands. For a pizza, once the dough
and tomato base are both down, the printer will add an all-important
"protein layer".

rbowman

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May 27, 2013, 9:18:18 PM5/27/13
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Winston_Smith wrote:

> According to Contractor, the food is baked as it’s printed by way of a
> heated plate upon which the food lands. For a pizza, once the dough
> and tomato base are both down, the printer will add an all-important
> "protein layer".

I don't even want to know about the protein layer.

Gunner Asch

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May 27, 2013, 9:58:54 PM5/27/13
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On Mon, 27 May 2013 19:18:18 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
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Probably what Winny has on his tongue and dripping off his chin.

Oh..sorry....thats semen layer. They look similar..my mistake.


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Winston_Smith

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May 28, 2013, 1:00:59 AM5/28/13
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On Mon, 27 May 2013 18:58:54 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 27 May 2013 19:18:18 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Winston_Smith wrote:
>>
>>> According to Contractor, the food is baked as it�s printed by way of a
>>> heated plate upon which the food lands. For a pizza, once the dough
>>> and tomato base are both down, the printer will add an all-important
>>> "protein layer".
>>
>>I don't even want to know about the protein layer.
>
>Probably what Winny has on his tongue and dripping off his chin.
>
>Oh..sorry....thats semen layer. They look similar..my mistake.

Oh come on Gunner. Still pissed that I DID NOT bitch about your sewing
machines. Come on, big boy, give me a death threat and stop buying HHC
nonsense.

CanopyCo

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May 28, 2013, 8:42:46 AM5/28/13
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On May 27, 6:33 pm, Winston_Smith <inva...@butterfly.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 23 May 2013 13:33:19 -0700, n...@nowhere.org wrote:
> >So you want some 3-D printed bullets?
> >http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/05/3d-printed-bullets/
>
> http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/pizza-on-mars-nasa-funds-devel...
> ...under its Small Business Innovation Research program, NASA has just
> awarded mechanical engineer Anjan Contractor a grant worth $125,000 to
> help him create a 3D printer for food. Contractor, head of Texas-based
> Systems & Materials Research Corporation, grabbed NASA s attention
> last year with his chocolate printer, which combines powdered food
> products with water before laying it out on a cookie.
>
> In the next six months, he aims to make significant progress building
> a food synthesizer that could be fitted aboard a spacecraft and used
> to print out meals to feed astronauts on unspeakably long space
> missions, such as to Mars. The printer would work to combine various
> food-based powders with water and oil.
>
> "Long distance space travel requires 15-plus years of shelf life,"
> Contractor told news site Quartz in an interview this week. "The way
> we are working on it is, all the carbs, proteins and macro and micro
> nutrients are in powder form. We take moisture out, and in that form
> it will last maybe 30 years.'
>
> As Quartz points out in its report, "pizza is an obvious candidate for
> 3D printing because it can be printed in distinct layers, so it only
> requires the print head to extrude one substance at a time."
>
> According to Contractor, the food is baked as it s printed by way of a
> heated plate upon which the food lands. For a pizza, once the dough
> and tomato base are both down, the printer will add an all-important
> "protein layer".

Boy, what a waste of time.
That food will not only be nasty tasting but will also likely only
have artificial food value.
What will it be made of, saw dust lased with flavoring and vitamins?

And there is no need.
This will not save space due to the sum of the parts equal the hold.
So the stuff to squirt out a pizza will weigh the same as a pizza in a
seal a meal.
And you need the printer so that is the same as having an oven to heat
the real food in.
And the real food will not only be healthier for you but will also
taste better and have a more eatable texture.

I think this guy was just wrapped up in making himself a star trek
food repucater to impress his trek friends.
;-)












David J. Hughes

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May 28, 2013, 10:29:26 AM5/28/13
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Didn't bother to read it did you?

"various food based powders", not sawdust.

>
> And there is no need.
> This will not save space due to the sum of the parts equal the hold.
> So the stuff to squirt out a pizza will weigh the same as a pizza in a
> seal a meal.

You overlook one component. Water. Food is 30 to 90% water.
Water is easily recycled.
You have 3 weeks water on board, and 15 years of dehydrated food
powders. That saves the space and weight of 15 years worth of water.

> And you need the printer so that is the same as having an oven to heat
> the real food in.
> And the real food will not only be healthier for you but will also
> taste better and have a more eatable texture.
>
> I think this guy was just wrapped up in making himself a star trek
> food repucater to impress his trek friends.
> ;-)
>

Replicator. Probably true, but so what. Neat tech is neat tech.









rbowman

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May 28, 2013, 10:48:15 PM5/28/13
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David J. Hughes wrote:

> You have 3 weeks water on board, and 15 years of dehydrated food
> powders. That saves the space and weight of 15 years worth of water.

Oh goodie. 15 years of recycled piss.

Winston_Smith

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May 28, 2013, 10:58:03 PM5/28/13
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On Tue, 28 May 2013 20:48:15 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
wrote:
Upstream town processes it's waste (or not) and dumps it in the river.
Next town pumps it out, filters and adds some Cl (or not) and the
sheeples drink it.

David J. Hughes

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May 28, 2013, 11:26:56 PM5/28/13
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Every drop of water has passed through some critters bladder or
equivalent thousands of times.

If you want water that hasn't been recycled, go mine a comet.

misanthrope

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May 29, 2013, 7:10:45 AM5/29/13
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I was watching a theoretic account of how humans might accomplish space
colonization in the future on The Universe or some show like that. I
found it entertaining when they spoke of packets of food being used as
carbon liner for radiation inside of a vehicle rover. The idea was the
astronaut would take down a wrapped block of dehydrated food and eat it.
when they needed to use the facilities, they would take a dump back in
the wrapper, wrap it up and replace it in the same spot in the wall so
it was still a wrapped packet of carbon based material that could
continue to serve the same purpose.

Stormin Mormon

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May 29, 2013, 8:18:39 AM5/29/13
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Burn some hydrogen?
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CanopyCo

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May 29, 2013, 8:37:53 AM5/29/13
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On May 28, 9:29 am, "David J. Hughes" <davidjhughes...@netzero.com>
wrote:
Sawdust is a food based powder when added to food as fiber.
;-)

>
> > And there is no need.
> > This will not save space due to the sum of the parts equal the hold.
> > So the stuff to squirt out a pizza will weigh the same as a pizza in a
> > seal a meal.
>
> You overlook one component. Water. Food is 30 to 90% water.
> Water is easily recycled.
> You have 3 weeks water on board, and 15 years of dehydrated food
> powders. That saves the space and weight of 15 years worth of water.
>

You overlooked dehydrated food that is still food but lacking the
water.
;-)

> > And you need the printer so that is the same as having an oven to heat
> > the real food in.
> > And the real food will not only be healthier for you but will also
> > taste better and have a more eatable texture.
>
> > I think this guy was just wrapped up in making himself a star trek
> > food repucater to impress his trek friends.
> > ;-)
>
> Replicator. Probably true, but so what. Neat tech is neat tech.


Sure, fun little toy to impress the kids at the next BBQ.
Even if it did have a low quality taste I’d bet the kids would be
lined up waiting to print out there corn dog with mustard, pizza,
chili dog, and cup of soda.

Hell, I might even stand and watch just for jollies myself.
;-)









CanopyCo

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May 29, 2013, 8:39:36 AM5/29/13
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Don’t forget the sweat and water pulled from drying your poo.
Not all of your water comes out as piss so you have to recycle all of
it or eventually you run out.
;-)

CanopyCo

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May 29, 2013, 8:42:22 AM5/29/13
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Hay, like fish and frogs are going to climb out and piss on shore.
;-)

But if I close my eyes and you quit reminding me I can almost drink
tap water.
Right now I have a well.
:-D

CanopyCo

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May 29, 2013, 8:46:31 AM5/29/13
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:-P

I can see it now.
Dam it guys, don’t forget to mark the package after you eat out of it
and put it back.
I think that this wasn’t a brownie after all.

:-D

Dude, your place is crap.
;-)

rbowman

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May 29, 2013, 9:47:57 AM5/29/13
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David J. Hughes wrote:

> Every drop of water has passed through some critters bladder or
> equivalent thousands of times.

Only if you assume every molecule of hydrogen and oxygen also passed through
a bladder at some point.

rbowman

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May 29, 2013, 9:51:02 AM5/29/13
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CanopyCo wrote:

> Don’t forget the sweat and water pulled from drying your poo.
> Not all of your water comes out as piss so you have to recycle all of
> it or eventually you run out.

I prefer my closed systems to be a little bigger. An Earth sized planet will
do just fine, thank you.

deep

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May 29, 2013, 10:08:29 AM5/29/13
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On Wed, 29 May 2013 07:51:02 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
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If it weren't for 7 billion other people you might be right.

David J. Hughes

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May 29, 2013, 11:56:38 AM5/29/13
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A reasonable assumption.
Ingested water is metabolized or excreted.
Starches, sugars, proteins, etc. are ingested, metabolized, and the
primary waste products, carbon dioxide and water, are excreted and
renter the hydrosphere until some plant breaks the water down and uses
it to make starches, sugar, proteins, etc.

The exception to this is water formed by combustion, but the fuel used
passed through a living creature sometime in the past.

There is some new water around from various sources (meteorites, solar
wind, volcanic cracking of REALLY old rocks), but those make up a tiny
fraction of the total hydrosphere. There might be a few hundred
molecules of "new" water in that water drop.

Winston_Smith

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May 29, 2013, 1:26:12 PM5/29/13
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On Wed, 29 May 2013 05:42:22 -0700 (PDT), CanopyCo wrote:
>On May 28, 9:58 pm, Winston_Smith wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 May 2013 20:48:15 -0600, rbowman wrote:

>> >Oh goodie. 15 years of recycled piss.
>>
>> Upstream town processes it's waste (or not) and dumps it in the river.
>> Next town pumps it out, filters and adds some Cl (or not) and the
>> sheeples drink it.
>
>Hay, like fish and frogs are going to climb out and piss on shore.
>;-)
>
>But if I close my eyes and you quit reminding me I can almost drink
>tap water.
>Right now I have a well.

Let's hope none of those unsanitary cows take a leek or a dump above
it.

CanopyCo

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May 30, 2013, 11:17:34 AM5/30/13
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It’s starting to look like we are going to need the same stuff here if
we don’t quit messing it up.
There is still hope, but so far it doesn’t look good.


Gunner Asch

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Jun 1, 2013, 8:17:31 AM6/1/13
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On Wed, 29 May 2013 07:47:57 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
wrote:
Pretty much. Been through the lungs of a Shanghi hooker and a Paris
pimp.

rbowman

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Jun 1, 2013, 3:57:01 PM6/1/13
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Gunner Asch wrote:

> Pretty much. Been through the lungs of a Shanghi hooker and a Paris
> pimp.

That fascinated me about the time I learned about molecules and stuff. Just
think, I might be utilizing a molecule of oxygen that Thomas Jefferson once
used! Or Bill Clinton. I guess every cloud has a dark lining.


Winston_Smith

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Jun 1, 2013, 4:59:05 PM6/1/13
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Taken to the extreme, all atoms above hydrogen are manufactured in
stars. We are all made of star stuff.
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