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book...@yahoo.com
May 25, 2012, 6:16:27 PM5/25/12
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I've come to the conclusion that for my own survival, I'd best diet.
So just what that means besides cutting down on quantity is the
question.
Last night on Coast to Coast I heard them talking about going
vegetarian to get back to your slim self and more energy, so that
appeals to me. I can get leverage on this if I remember what it felt
like to be in shape.
Complication: there are degrees of vegetarian diet, from all out
vegan, to just avoiding red meat. I think I want to try avoiding the
red meat and keeping my poultry, dairy and fish. Looking at rice and
beans as main food types, plus what toppings go with this. Something
not always mention in this kind of diet is drinking vegetable and
berry juices, which will probably use up any money saved by shorting
meat. Of course, I will do my best to abstain from processed and
quick foods. Will try out limiting pizza to once a week or month. No
ice cream.
As a feature of survival, I'm guessing that coming up with a diet that
works for you is a good idea for health, economy, and mental focus.
Try to find good sources for vegetables, like my own garden. bookburn
So just what that means besides cutting down on quantity is the
question.
Last night on Coast to Coast I heard them talking about going
vegetarian to get back to your slim self and more energy, so that
appeals to me. I can get leverage on this if I remember what it felt
like to be in shape.
Complication: there are degrees of vegetarian diet, from all out
vegan, to just avoiding red meat. I think I want to try avoiding the
red meat and keeping my poultry, dairy and fish. Looking at rice and
beans as main food types, plus what toppings go with this. Something
not always mention in this kind of diet is drinking vegetable and
berry juices, which will probably use up any money saved by shorting
meat. Of course, I will do my best to abstain from processed and
quick foods. Will try out limiting pizza to once a week or month. No
ice cream.
As a feature of survival, I'm guessing that coming up with a diet that
works for you is a good idea for health, economy, and mental focus.
Try to find good sources for vegetables, like my own garden. bookburn
Mighty Wannabe
May 25, 2012, 6:24:01 PM5/25/12
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10-year-long nuclear winter.
--
Frank
May 25, 2012, 7:00:11 PM5/25/12
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different vegetables. Poultry, dairy and fish in the diet does away
with this concern.
There is a lot of stuff on line about this. Here was my first hit:
> http://www.fitsugar.com/Whats-Complete-Protein-Inquiring-Vegetarians-Want-Know-165298
Heart healthy diet was good for me. Cut way back on red meat, avoid
processed meats like hot dogs and cut back on fat (fat free milk, salad
dressing, no potato chips or French fries etc).
book...@yahoo.com
May 25, 2012, 7:47:25 PM5/25/12
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be radioactive. Can grow radioactive vegetables for topping on
radioactive rice. That's survival by getting with the program.
de...@dudu.org
May 25, 2012, 7:57:58 PM5/25/12
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beans.
Shall not be infringed
May 25, 2012, 7:45:54 PM5/25/12
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You can get away with eating eggs and dairy, but no meat.
I've seen a lot of fat and unhealthy vegetarians, mostly young women who have been brainwashed by peta insanity. They replace animal protein with cheese fries and twinkies.
Larry
May 25, 2012, 9:32:25 PM5/25/12
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In article <jpp0q1$peb$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, NoR...@none.none says...
> I don't think you can grow vegetables for your vegetarian diet in a
> 10-year-long nuclear winter.
If you look at the history of the Little Ice Age, the thing that caused the
famines in Europe was that farmers didn't understand how to switch to new
crops when the old crops failed. Summer snow storms, ice storms, hail and
wind destroyed the grain crops, but underground crops did better. If you
anticipate a return to ice age conditions, bone up on how to grow turnips,
beets, carrots, potatoes, sweet potatoes, onions, radishes, etc.
For legumes, peas might make a faster crop than beans, though the traditional
Indian tripod of maize, beans and squash might carry you through most years.
> I don't think you can grow vegetables for your vegetarian diet in a
> 10-year-long nuclear winter.
famines in Europe was that farmers didn't understand how to switch to new
crops when the old crops failed. Summer snow storms, ice storms, hail and
wind destroyed the grain crops, but underground crops did better. If you
anticipate a return to ice age conditions, bone up on how to grow turnips,
beets, carrots, potatoes, sweet potatoes, onions, radishes, etc.
For legumes, peas might make a faster crop than beans, though the traditional
Indian tripod of maize, beans and squash might carry you through most years.
Winston_Smith
May 25, 2012, 10:06:09 PM5/25/12
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Larry wrote:
>"Mighty Wannabe" wrote:.
assume.
>If you look at the history of the Little Ice Age, the thing that caused the
>famines in Europe was that farmers didn't understand how to switch to new
>crops when the old crops failed. Summer snow storms, ice storms, hail and
>wind destroyed the grain crops, but underground crops did better. If you
>anticipate a return to ice age conditions, bone up on how to grow turnips,
>beets, carrots, potatoes, sweet potatoes, onions, radishes, etc.
>
>For legumes, peas might make a faster crop than beans,
more calories and protein per pound too.
>though the traditional
>Indian tripod of maize, beans and squash might carry you through most years.
It has the attraction of complementary chemistry when you are growing
it - beans fix and concentrate nitrogen in the soil, corn craves it to
grow well.
Complementary physical aspects too - the beans shade the corn stalk
from baking sun, while the stalks support the climbing vine, while
neither casts much of a shadow, while the squash leaves gets full sun,
while it shades the ground and holds in water. The final bonus -
taken together they provide complete protein and store well.
>"Mighty Wannabe" wrote:.
>
>> I don't think you can grow vegetables for your vegetarian diet in a
>> 10-year-long nuclear winter.
Trolls will prosper in NW and they are quite eatable. Schools out, I
>> I don't think you can grow vegetables for your vegetarian diet in a
>> 10-year-long nuclear winter.
assume.
>If you look at the history of the Little Ice Age, the thing that caused the
>famines in Europe was that farmers didn't understand how to switch to new
>crops when the old crops failed. Summer snow storms, ice storms, hail and
>wind destroyed the grain crops, but underground crops did better. If you
>anticipate a return to ice age conditions, bone up on how to grow turnips,
>beets, carrots, potatoes, sweet potatoes, onions, radishes, etc.
>
>For legumes, peas might make a faster crop than beans,
>though the traditional
>Indian tripod of maize, beans and squash might carry you through most years.
it - beans fix and concentrate nitrogen in the soil, corn craves it to
grow well.
Complementary physical aspects too - the beans shade the corn stalk
from baking sun, while the stalks support the climbing vine, while
neither casts much of a shadow, while the squash leaves gets full sun,
while it shades the ground and holds in water. The final bonus -
taken together they provide complete protein and store well.
rbowman
May 25, 2012, 10:27:27 PM5/25/12
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book...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Last night on Coast to Coast I heard them talking about going
> vegetarian to get back to your slim self and more energy, so that
> appeals to me. I can get leverage on this if I remember what it felt
> like to be in shape.
It isn't a miracle cure. Some people turn into fruit bats; they replace
> Last night on Coast to Coast I heard them talking about going
> vegetarian to get back to your slim self and more energy, so that
> appeals to me. I can get leverage on this if I remember what it felt
> like to be in shape.
candy with copious quantities of fruit. Fresh fruit is undoubtably
healthier, but calories are calories. The same goes for rice, beans, and the
other calorically dense vegetable foods.
I've followed a vegetarian diet, usually ovo-lacto, at times. I enjoy it and
don't miss meat. However, as Henry Rollins said 'Iron don't lie'. The weight
I can handle for a bench press slowly drops. I've kept a gym log book for
year and repeated the experiment several times with the same results.
He has a book, but you might be able glean some ideas from the site:
http://engine2diet.com/tools?s=exp
He's a fireman and the recipes tend towards guy stuff rather than some of
the more foofoo ideas.
rbowman
May 25, 2012, 10:30:07 PM5/25/12
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book...@yahoo.com wrote:
> That's okay. I just bought some smoked seaweed for my rice that might
> be radioactive.
I've been getting 'Jayone' seasoned and roasted seaweed. Pretty tasty, and
> That's okay. I just bought some smoked seaweed for my rice that might
> be radioactive.
it's from Korea which is upwind. I don't know about the local ocean currents
though.
book...@yahoo.com
May 25, 2012, 10:33:42 PM5/25/12
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:30:07 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
wrote:
That's what I got at Costco. Haven't tried it yet.
wrote:
rbowman
May 25, 2012, 11:15:53 PM5/25/12
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I like it enough that I just eat it straight up and haven't gotten around to
adding it to rice yet.
adding it to rice yet.
Jack Boot
May 25, 2012, 11:10:46 PM5/25/12
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Hi Larry,
>...underground crops did better. If you
>For legumes, peas might make a faster crop
>than beans, though the traditional Indian tripod
>of maize, beans and squash might carry you
>through most years.
Some types of squash are grown for their no hull seed. Squash seeds
(pepitas) are nutritious and delicious.
Jack Boot
>...underground crops did better. If you
>anticipate a return to ice age conditions, bone
>up on how to grow turnips, beets, carrots,
>potatoes, sweet potatoes, onions, radishes, etc.
Peanuts grow underground.
>up on how to grow turnips, beets, carrots,
>potatoes, sweet potatoes, onions, radishes, etc.
>For legumes, peas might make a faster crop
>than beans, though the traditional Indian tripod
>of maize, beans and squash might carry you
>through most years.
(pepitas) are nutritious and delicious.
Jack Boot
Larry
May 26, 2012, 3:00:44 AM5/26/12
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In article <14827-4FC...@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>, accouter711
@webtv.net says...
the stalk sends out shoots that fruit underground. If you are trying to
compensate for the wild weather patterns that were common during the Little
Ice Age, the less plant above ground the better. History records wild hail
storms in mid summer that wiped out a lot of crops.
Peanut tops make good livestock fodder, though. In the old days, they baled
hay from what came out of the harvester.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouqeJZ69SdM&feature=related
One thing most survivalists don't seem to understand is how many people it
takes to do subsistence agriculture. During the harvest, you have to be set
to feed and house a minimum of a dozen people in addition to the family that
lives there. You need a collection of really big pots and pans, plus a couple
dozen cups, plates and soup bowls, unless you plan on running down to Wal-
Mart for paper plates and plastic cups. Don't forget the flatware and water
barrels.
@webtv.net says...
> Hi Larry,
>
> >...underground crops did better. If you
> >anticipate a return to ice age conditions, bone
> >up on how to grow turnips, beets, carrots,
> >potatoes, sweet potatoes, onions, radishes, etc.
>
> Peanuts grow underground.
Yes, they do, but peanuts also grow weird. The plant puts up a stalk, then
>
> >...underground crops did better. If you
> >anticipate a return to ice age conditions, bone
> >up on how to grow turnips, beets, carrots,
> >potatoes, sweet potatoes, onions, radishes, etc.
>
> Peanuts grow underground.
the stalk sends out shoots that fruit underground. If you are trying to
compensate for the wild weather patterns that were common during the Little
Ice Age, the less plant above ground the better. History records wild hail
storms in mid summer that wiped out a lot of crops.
Peanut tops make good livestock fodder, though. In the old days, they baled
hay from what came out of the harvester.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouqeJZ69SdM&feature=related
One thing most survivalists don't seem to understand is how many people it
takes to do subsistence agriculture. During the harvest, you have to be set
to feed and house a minimum of a dozen people in addition to the family that
lives there. You need a collection of really big pots and pans, plus a couple
dozen cups, plates and soup bowls, unless you plan on running down to Wal-
Mart for paper plates and plastic cups. Don't forget the flatware and water
barrels.
book...@yahoo.com
May 26, 2012, 3:17:12 AM5/26/12
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 21:15:53 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
wrote:
I'll have to check again, but I thought you're supposed to soak it in
vinegar, then cook it before adding to a dish?
wrote:
vinegar, then cook it before adding to a dish?
Gunner Asch
May 26, 2012, 3:36:05 AM5/26/12
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far healthier in quantity.
One can eat a mess of lettuce..and starve to death. A veggie diet
requires one to eat a wide variety of such. Now oddly enough..one
veggie diet that will keep one alive for a very long time in reasonable
health..is simply rice..and beans together.
But Crom! its boring after a time.
Been there, done that. Had the farts and the hunger for a burger....
Gunner
--
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry
capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an
Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have
such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the
fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
fools that made him their prince".
Stormin Mormon
May 26, 2012, 8:41:02 AM5/26/12
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Is it interfering with life? Can you still stand up,
walk, and so on?
It may be to advantage to have extra weight, in case
of food supply cut. Skinny people will die first, in
a starvation situation. When my sister was a teen,
she met someone. Wish I could remember the
details. but, the someone had been from another
country. This other person said, and I paraphrase
"you are too thin! When they take the food away,
you will be the first to die. You should be more
like this (indicating my sister) and have a bit of meat
on your bones."
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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walk, and so on?
It may be to advantage to have extra weight, in case
of food supply cut. Skinny people will die first, in
a starvation situation. When my sister was a teen,
she met someone. Wish I could remember the
details. but, the someone had been from another
country. This other person said, and I paraphrase
"you are too thin! When they take the food away,
you will be the first to die. You should be more
like this (indicating my sister) and have a bit of meat
on your bones."
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
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de...@dudu.org
May 26, 2012, 9:31:04 AM5/26/12
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:27:27 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
wrote:
I can't imagine ever giving up meat. And I can't understand why. From
an ecological viewpoint plants are cheaper, but lean meats are good
for you. Protein is an essential part of our diet especially for
active people and it is virtually impossible to get adequate proteins
from beans and grains. If one wants to lose weight cutting out the
fat and sugar and increasing activity is the only thing that makes
sense. Cutting out meat is not the answer.
wrote:
an ecological viewpoint plants are cheaper, but lean meats are good
for you. Protein is an essential part of our diet especially for
active people and it is virtually impossible to get adequate proteins
from beans and grains. If one wants to lose weight cutting out the
fat and sugar and increasing activity is the only thing that makes
sense. Cutting out meat is not the answer.
terryc
May 26, 2012, 1:00:30 PM5/26/12
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On 26/05/12 08:16, book...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I've come to the conclusion that for my own survival, I'd best diet.
> So just what that means besides cutting down on quantity is the
> question.
After cutting down, you eed to check balance.
> I've come to the conclusion that for my own survival, I'd best diet.
> So just what that means besides cutting down on quantity is the
> question.
Rather that a radical change to something like vegetarian which you
probably know SFa about, try cutting down/out the high carbo load
components, e.g all refined grains, rice and pasta. replace breakfst
cerial with a protein.
pyotr filipivich
May 26, 2012, 1:38:56 PM5/26/12
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book...@yahoo.com on Fri, 25 May 2012 14:16:27 -0800 typed in
alt.survival the following:
That is all there is to it. Every thing else is how to get the
proper nutrition without eating "so much".
Going "vegetarian" in the sense of "cutting back on the processed
food" - is a good thing. But processed food is quick and easy to fix,
tastes great (all sorts of reasons for that) and more often than not,
has enough for two in a package. Or at least more than you "need".
So cut out the processed sugars which includes "Concentrated cane
syrup", maltose, dextrose, - there are a huge number of names for
sugars, high fructose corn syrup (which is only 5% "worse" than cane
sugar). Good idea to cut out store bought "snacks" Hostess etc. It
maybe "low fat" or even "no fat" but that fat is too often replaced
with more sugars "to make it taste good". Excuse me "enhance the
eating experience."
>
>As a feature of survival, I'm guessing that coming up with a diet that
>works for you is a good idea for health, economy, and mental focus.
>Try to find good sources for vegetables, like my own garden.
Garden's good. Help you work off some of the gut, and give you
good food as a result. Assuming you don't have soil 'contaminates'
form fertilizers and other sources.
>bookburn
--
pyotr filipivich
Old farts these days - not like when I was a boy! We used to
have us Real Geezers in those days! Now, they'll let anybody
with a little gray hair be an old fart!
alt.survival the following:
>I've come to the conclusion that for my own survival, I'd best diet.
>So just what that means besides cutting down on quantity is the
>question.
Eat less, walk more.
>So just what that means besides cutting down on quantity is the
>question.
That is all there is to it. Every thing else is how to get the
proper nutrition without eating "so much".
Going "vegetarian" in the sense of "cutting back on the processed
food" - is a good thing. But processed food is quick and easy to fix,
tastes great (all sorts of reasons for that) and more often than not,
has enough for two in a package. Or at least more than you "need".
So cut out the processed sugars which includes "Concentrated cane
syrup", maltose, dextrose, - there are a huge number of names for
sugars, high fructose corn syrup (which is only 5% "worse" than cane
sugar). Good idea to cut out store bought "snacks" Hostess etc. It
maybe "low fat" or even "no fat" but that fat is too often replaced
with more sugars "to make it taste good". Excuse me "enhance the
eating experience."
>
>As a feature of survival, I'm guessing that coming up with a diet that
>works for you is a good idea for health, economy, and mental focus.
>Try to find good sources for vegetables, like my own garden.
good food as a result. Assuming you don't have soil 'contaminates'
form fertilizers and other sources.
>bookburn
--
pyotr filipivich
Old farts these days - not like when I was a boy! We used to
have us Real Geezers in those days! Now, they'll let anybody
with a little gray hair be an old fart!
pyotr filipivich
May 26, 2012, 1:38:56 PM5/26/12
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Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> on Sat, 26 May 2012 00:36:05 -0700
Say ... day two.
Rice and Beans, beans and rice. Millet and beans. Rice, millet
beans and rice. Rice, rice, rice, baked beans, rice and rice. With
Potatoes.
typed in alt.survival the following:
>
>Been there, done that. Had the farts and the hunger for a burger....
Ayup
>Been there, done that. Had the farts and the hunger for a burger....
Rice and Beans, beans and rice. Millet and beans. Rice, millet
beans and rice. Rice, rice, rice, baked beans, rice and rice. With
Potatoes.
rbowman
May 26, 2012, 4:46:56 PM5/26/12
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book...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I'll have to check again, but I thought you're supposed to soak it in
> vinegar, then cook it before adding to a dish?
Dish? What dish? I just tear the foil open and start munching. I skip the
> I'll have to check again, but I thought you're supposed to soak it in
> vinegar, then cook it before adding to a dish?
little flavor packet though. I tried one and it wasn't very good.
rbowman
May 26, 2012, 4:50:18 PM5/26/12
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pyotr filipivich wrote:
> Rice and Beans, beans and rice. Millet and beans. Rice, millet
> beans and rice. Rice, rice, rice, baked beans, rice and rice. With
> Potatoes.
My takeaway lesson from Seven Samurai is you only eat millet after you run
> Rice and Beans, beans and rice. Millet and beans. Rice, millet
> beans and rice. Rice, rice, rice, baked beans, rice and rice. With
> Potatoes.
out of rice. I cook it up every now and then but it isn't one of my
favorites. I'd prefer kasha for a variety meal.
rbowman
May 26, 2012, 4:52:35 PM5/26/12
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Wish I could remember the
> details. but, the someone had been from another
> country. This other person said, and I paraphrase
> "you are too thin! When they take the food away,
> you will be the first to die. You should be more
> like this (indicating my sister) and have a bit of meat
> on your bones."
One of the news tidbits yesterday came from Britain. The paramedics had to
> Wish I could remember the
> details. but, the someone had been from another
> country. This other person said, and I paraphrase
> "you are too thin! When they take the food away,
> you will be the first to die. You should be more
> like this (indicating my sister) and have a bit of meat
> on your bones."
saw out part of a second floor wall to take a teenage girl to the hospital.
She went 800 pounds and change. She'd be good until some time in 2015.
rbowman
May 26, 2012, 5:02:13 PM5/26/12
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de...@dudu.org wrote:
> I can't imagine ever giving up meat. And I can't understand why. From
> an ecological viewpoint plants are cheaper, but lean meats are good
> for you.
I get bored after a while and want to shake up my diet. There is no
> I can't imagine ever giving up meat. And I can't understand why. From
> an ecological viewpoint plants are cheaper, but lean meats are good
> for you.
particular ethical or ecological reasoning involved.
"Now a friend of mine, way back in Chicago
You know, he finally made his pile.
Well he got himself a mansion on Butler and Sheff
And he was living in the latest style;
But I run into him, he was eatin' in a greasy spoon
While parkled in front was his big limousine.
I said, 'Buddy, you've got so much money
How come you're in here, eatin beans?`
An' he said
After you`ve been havin' steak for a long time
Beans, beans taste fine.
An` after you`ve been drinkin'champagne and brandy
You gonna settle for T-ird wine.
He said the world is funny, and people are strange
And man is a creature of constant change, and
After you've been havin' steak for a long time
Beans, beans taste fine."
'Beans Taste Fine' Shel Silverstein
http://www.lyricsmania.com/beans_taste_fine_lyrics_shel_silverstein.html
Stormin Mormon
May 26, 2012, 7:19:22 PM5/26/12
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Yes, with water and Gatorade for minerals, maybe?
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pyotr filipivich
May 27, 2012, 2:45:28 AM5/27/12
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rbowman <bow...@montana.com> on Sat, 26 May 2012 14:50:18 -0600 typed
in alt.survival the following:
Dang, I'm trying to recall what my dad said the cousins on the
farm ate, during the Depression. What ever it was, it was A & B for
breakfast, B & A for lunch, and A, B, and ham for supper - till the
new beans came on. I think one was potatoes, and the other corn, but
I can't remember (now).
Point is, boring food is better than no food at all. B-)
in alt.survival the following:
farm ate, during the Depression. What ever it was, it was A & B for
breakfast, B & A for lunch, and A, B, and ham for supper - till the
new beans came on. I think one was potatoes, and the other corn, but
I can't remember (now).
Point is, boring food is better than no food at all. B-)
book...@yahoo.com
May 27, 2012, 6:07:10 AM5/27/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 14:46:56 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
wrote:
They probably have a name in Korea for round-eyes who do that.
wrote:
rbowman
May 27, 2012, 5:07:33 PM5/27/12
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I used to work with a Korean woman who would get the munchies and come over
to trade for whatever I had around. Her bargaining chip was dried squid,
which I like. One day I'd gotten a bag of pork rinds to see what they were
all about and decided they sucked. I traded it off for a couple of pieces of
squid. She came back a few minutes later pissed off that she got the short
end of the bargain. I had to agree.
to trade for whatever I had around. Her bargaining chip was dried squid,
which I like. One day I'd gotten a bag of pork rinds to see what they were
all about and decided they sucked. I traded it off for a couple of pieces of
squid. She came back a few minutes later pissed off that she got the short
end of the bargain. I had to agree.
book...@yahoo.com
May 27, 2012, 8:59:07 PM5/27/12
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On Sun, 27 May 2012 15:07:33 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
wrote:
The Wikipedia article on pork rind, crackling, or scratching mentions
that they are way up there for energy and are taken on expeditions to
the poles, plus they are comparatively healthy otherwise. Used as bar
food in some countries.
wrote:
that they are way up there for energy and are taken on expeditions to
the poles, plus they are comparatively healthy otherwise. Used as bar
food in some countries.
Winston_Smith
May 27, 2012, 9:29:46 PM5/27/12
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that's about the best you can do.
rbowman
May 27, 2012, 10:52:55 PM5/27/12
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book...@yahoo.com wrote:
> The Wikipedia article on pork rind, crackling, or scratching mentions
> that they are way up there for energy and are taken on expeditions to
> the poles, plus they are comparatively healthy otherwise. Used as bar
> food in some countries.
The stuff I had was puffed and wouldn't be as efficient as the traditional
> The Wikipedia article on pork rind, crackling, or scratching mentions
> that they are way up there for energy and are taken on expeditions to
> the poles, plus they are comparatively healthy otherwise. Used as bar
> food in some countries.
pemmican. Some of the spiced up versions are marginally better but this was
bland, sort of like eating wood flour.
terryc
May 27, 2012, 10:53:17 PM5/27/12
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On 28/05/12 11:29, Winston_Smith wrote:
>> The Wikipedia article on pork rind, crackling, or scratching mentions
>> that they are way up there for energy and are taken on expeditions to
>> the poles, plus they are comparatively healthy otherwise. Used as bar
>> food in some countries.
>
> Pretty much they are pure fat fried in fat. At 9 calories/gram,
> that's about the best you can do.
Dang, that was how to make lard edible(?)
>> The Wikipedia article on pork rind, crackling, or scratching mentions
>> that they are way up there for energy and are taken on expeditions to
>> the poles, plus they are comparatively healthy otherwise. Used as bar
>> food in some countries.
>
> Pretty much they are pure fat fried in fat. At 9 calories/gram,
> that's about the best you can do.
Decades ago when discussing food for a week hiking in snow country, the
club doctor said that lard was the most concentrated form of energy, the
problem was the extra you needed to make it eedible.
Winston_Smith
May 27, 2012, 11:49:14 PM5/27/12
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matter. Fat encased in fat.
book...@yahoo.com
May 28, 2012, 12:06:04 AM5/28/12
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On Sun, 27 May 2012 20:52:55 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
wrote:
I love Wikipedia. On this, it says:
According to Men's Health, a 1 ounce (28 g) serving contains nine
times the protein and less fat than you'll find in a serving of
carb-packed potato chips. They add that 43 percent of a pork rind's
fat is unsaturated, and most of that is oleic acid — the same healthy
fat found in olive oil. Another 13 percent of its fat content is
stearic acid, a type of saturated fat that's considered harmless,
because it doesn't raise cholesterol levels."[4]
Another site talks about how pork rind, scratching, or crackling is
use in cooking for adding flavor. Also, I saw a segment of the TV
series on the NYC restaurant owner (Bourdine ?) who visited London
butchers and a nearby restaurant that specializes in that type of
food. Is it called "offal"? Anyway, it's the old time parts the
lower classes ate and had their ways of preparing it. He ate the
marrow of cooked bones and declared it the best. Said that London has
great recipes if it would go back to the good old days.
Let's face it: bacon is great for flavor and is pig fat, too. Try
adding some bits to your soup.
wrote:
According to Men's Health, a 1 ounce (28 g) serving contains nine
times the protein and less fat than you'll find in a serving of
carb-packed potato chips. They add that 43 percent of a pork rind's
fat is unsaturated, and most of that is oleic acid — the same healthy
fat found in olive oil. Another 13 percent of its fat content is
stearic acid, a type of saturated fat that's considered harmless,
because it doesn't raise cholesterol levels."[4]
Another site talks about how pork rind, scratching, or crackling is
use in cooking for adding flavor. Also, I saw a segment of the TV
series on the NYC restaurant owner (Bourdine ?) who visited London
butchers and a nearby restaurant that specializes in that type of
food. Is it called "offal"? Anyway, it's the old time parts the
lower classes ate and had their ways of preparing it. He ate the
marrow of cooked bones and declared it the best. Said that London has
great recipes if it would go back to the good old days.
Let's face it: bacon is great for flavor and is pig fat, too. Try
adding some bits to your soup.
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