Zombies in Miami

[Bomb...@rendersafe.home]

First known Zombie attack?

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/05/26/miami-police-confrontation-men-leaves-1-dead-1-hurt/

[Nicholas]

On Mon, 28 May 2012 07:30:14 GMT, Bomb...@rendersafe.home wrote:

>First known Zombie attack?
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>http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/05/26/miami-police-confrontation-men-leaves-1-dead-1-hurt/

I had some PCP once that overheated me, so much so that I took off my
shirt and dove into some snow drifts to help cool down. I don't know
about the superhuman strength part, but I didn't feel any pain from
anything. Lesson learned: DON'T fool with "street drugs."

Lg

[bates2012]

On May 28, 4:36 am, Nicholas <Lawrence_Glick...@comcast.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 28 May 2012 07:30:14 GMT, Bombg...@rendersafe.home wrote:
> >First known Zombie attack?
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> >http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/05/26/miami-police-confrontation-men-l...

>
> I had some PCP once that overheated me, so much so that I took off my
> shirt and dove into some snow drifts to help cool down.  I don't know
> about the superhuman strength part, but I didn't feel any pain from
> anything.  Lesson learned: DON'T fool with "street drugs."
>
> Lg

PCP, goes down smooth when sprinkled in a joint ;o)
NB

[bates2012]

On May 28, 2:30 am, Bombg...@rendersafe.home wrote:
> First known Zombie attack?
>

> http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/05/26/miami-police-confrontation-men-l...

People watch too many movies, theres no such thing as "undead"
zombies. Unless you consider the brain dead sheeple as zombies, then
Id agree.
NB

[Nicholas]

The Voodoo tribes in Haiti turn people into Zombies by taking their
souls and turning them into slaves. But the Zombies aren't dead in
the flesh...only in the mind and soul.

Lg

[Nicholas]

That's how I got it. A college dorm pal gave me a joint that was
laced with PCP. I finally just went outside and laid on my back
looking at the stars.

He went on to become a college professor. I went on to become a
working schmuck.

Lg

[bates2012]

Well, mine was smooth after I puked. Then it was a trip ;o)
No doubt we both coulda done better, but shit, weve had fun, and it is
what it is.
NB

[bates2012]

On May 28, 1:24 pm, Nicholas <Lawrence_Glick...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2012 10:56:32 -0700 (PDT), bates2012
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Kinda like flat screen TV's do? :o)
NB

[Nicholas]

astute observation.
buy this, buy that, buy buy buy...Marketing is all about mind control.

If it weren't for selling shit that nobody needs, TV wouldn't exist.
Neither would a lot of other crap. Think about it.

[Nicholas]

Yah. In the final analysis...we made our contributions to Society.
Sometimes in blood. Now I just want to enjoy Relaxing during my final
hours on earth. Time to let someone else save the planet. We did our
share of it, no doubt about it.

When we're dead and buried...nobody is going to remember who we were
or what we did. I think about that overtime I drive by a cemetery.

Lg

[Nicholas]

We did the best we could with what we had to work with. That's all
that matters.

Lg

[Nicholas]

Yah. In the final analysis...we made our contributions to Society.
Sometimes in blood. Now I just want to enjoy Relaxing during my final
hours on earth. Time to let someone else save the planet. We did our
share of it, no doubt about it.

When we're dead and buried...nobody is going to remember who we were

or what we did. I think about that _every_ time I drive by a
cemetery.

Lg
f**cin' spell checker ;-\

[pyotr filipivich]

bates2012 <bate...@hushmail.com> on Mon, 28 May 2012 18:24:50 -0700
(PDT) typed in alt.survival the following:

Snerk

There's a film clip floating around, a Bob Hope comedy "the Ghost
Breakers". At one point someone is telling Bob's character about
Zombies. how when a person dies and is buried, it seems a certain
voodoo priest will have the power to bring him back to life. It's
worse than horrible, because a zombie has no will of his own. You see
them some times, walking around blindly with dead eyes, following
orders, not knowing what they do, not caring.
Bob Hope: You mean, like Democrats?






--
pyotr filipivich
Old farts these days - not like when I was a boy! We used to
have us Real Geezers in those days! Now, they'll let anybody
with a little gray hair be an old fart!

[bates2012]

On May 28, 8:58 pm, Nicholas <Lawrence_Glick...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2012 18:24:50 -0700 (PDT), bates2012
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> >On May 28, 1:24 pm, Nicholas <Lawrence_Glick...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 28 May 2012 10:56:32 -0700 (PDT), bates2012
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> >> <bates2...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On May 28, 2:30 am, Bombg...@rendersafe.home wrote:
> >> >> First known Zombie attack?
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> >> >>http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/05/26/miami-police-confrontation-men-l...
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> >> >People watch too many movies, theres no such thing as "undead"
> >> >zombies. Unless you consider the brain dead sheeple as zombies, then
> >> >Id agree.
> >> >NB
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> >> The Voodoo tribes in Haiti turn people into Zombies by taking their
> >> souls and turning them into slaves.  But the Zombies aren't dead in
> >> the flesh...only in the mind and soul.
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> >NB
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> astute observation.
> buy this, buy that, buy buy buy...Marketing is all about mind control.
>
> If it weren't for selling shit that nobody needs, TV wouldn't exist.
> Neither would a lot of other crap.  Think about it.

--
Right you are! And weve all bought a lot of shit we didnt need over
our lifetimes. But hell, I guess we enjoyed it at the time.
Check these pics out:

http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss264/Heyyouguys2/TV_Mind_Control.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/parsellpost/photos/hypno-tv.jpg

http://19justinbrown88.yolasite.com/resources/tv%20mind%20control.jpg

For the zombie fans:
http://myonesource.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/TV-Mind-Control-300x267.jpg

NB

[bates2012]

On May 28, 9:02 pm, Nicholas <Lawrence_Glick...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2012 18:26:37 -0700 (PDT), bates2012
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And very few will give a shit. I hope to outlive my 2 ex wives just so
they wont have the pleasure of seeing me dead, lol
NB

[pyotr filipivich]

bates2012 <bate...@hushmail.com> on Mon, 28 May 2012 22:45:29 -0700

(PDT) typed in alt.survival the following:

>On May 28, 8:58 pm, Nicholas <Lawrence_Glick...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 May 2012 18:24:50 -0700 (PDT), bates2012 <bates2...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>> >On May 28, 1:24 pm, Nicholas <Lawrence_Glick...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 28 May 2012 10:56:32 -0700 (PDT), bates2012 <bates2...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >On May 28, 2:30 am, Bombg...@rendersafe.home wrote:
>> >> >> First known Zombie attack?
>>
>> >> >>http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/05/26/miami-police-confrontation-men-l...
>>
>> >> >People watch too many movies, theres no such thing as "undead"
>> >> >zombies. Unless you consider the brain dead sheeple as zombies, then
>> >> >Id agree.
>> >> >NB
>>
>> >> The Voodoo tribes in Haiti turn people into Zombies by taking their
>> >> souls and turning them into slaves.  But the Zombies aren't dead in
>> >> the flesh...only in the mind and soul.
>>
>> >> Lg
>>
>> >Kinda like flat screen TV's do? :o)
>> >NB
>>
>> astute observation.
>> buy this, buy that, buy buy buy...Marketing is all about mind control.
>>
>> If it weren't for selling shit that nobody needs, TV wouldn't exist.
>> Neither would a lot of other crap.  Think about it.

TV as we know it would not exist. Edward Murrows observed decades
ago that TV was a sword rusting in the scabbard in the battle for
survival.
TV is an active visual media, which makes it difficult to reflect
on what you are seeing, and do anything else. Consider the difference
between watching Music Videos, and listening to the same songs on the
Radio.

Where TV works best is when it can "show" while someone "tells". A
map of Afghanistan laid over a state map (to scale) during the nightly
news will give more information than just reading "Car bomb in
Kandahar kills six."
Same goes for history lessons. Where is Libya relative to France
and Italy - and how does that to local landmarks. When you realize
that San Francisco to Washington DC is approximately the distance
between Madrid and Moscow, your brain may go "oh."

[Nicholas]

Even RADIO is about mind control and MONEY. What happened when so and
so referred to some basketball team as "nappy headed whores"? The
sponsors pulled the plug and the Talk Show Host went down the drain.

Again, When Rush Limpballs called someone a DYKE, what sponsors PULLED
THE PLUG and revenues plunged like a rock.

It's =all= about money, people, _your_ money. Think about it.

Lg

[Gunner Asch]

Odd that Limbaugh had revenue happy people waiting in the wings to fill
in for those that left, isnt it?

<VBG>

Gunner

--
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry
capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an
Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have
such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the
fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
fools that made him their prince".

[ne...@nowhere.org]

On Tue, 29 May 2012 11:53:04 -0500, Nicholas
<Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:

:snip:

>Even RADIO is about mind control and MONEY. What happened when so and
>so referred to some basketball team as "nappy headed whores"? The
>sponsors pulled the plug and the Talk Show Host went down the drain.

His name is Don Imus. You can do your own homework on him.
Personally, I wouldn't mind going down his drain... he's doing pretty
good. What's better is what they do for kids who have cancer at their
4,000 acre NM ranch.

>Again, When Rush Limpballs called someone a DYKE,

If you're going to put words in peoples mouths, try using the ones
they used. Rush called Ms. Fluke a "slut" and a "prostitute". Both
are true definitions based on the story she told. She'd have to fuck
something like 9 guys a day, three times each, for the cost of
contraceptives (over $3,000 worth of rubbers in this example) she
claimed she spent. And she wanted us taxpayers to pay for it. She
was asking congress for money so she could fuck like a, well, slut.
If that's not a definition of a prostitute, I don't know what is.

> what sponsors PULLED THE PLUG and revenues plunged like a rock.

Whose revenues plunged like a rock, Limbaughs? Not hardly, they went
UP.

>It's =all= about money, people, _your_ money. Think about it.
>
>Lg

In this case it was =all= about principles and _the_ 1st amendment.
The advertisers that stuck with Rush on principle were nicely rewarded
by Rush's audience for not succumbing to that attack on freedom of
speech.

The advertisers who did leave Rush (seven) weren't allowed back, and
were replaced before the door hit them in the ass on the way out. The
company that handles Rush's advertising is www.premierenetworks.com
There's a waiting list of companies who want to advertise directly on
Rush rather than just on the local affiliate stations (there's a huge
difference). It's $60k+ per week to land 30 second spots on his show.
If you can even get on that list. That's damn near 1/4 mil per mo.
Some of his advertisers have been there for years.

Affiliate station advertising costs a small fraction of that, none of
which goes to the EIB network. The other advertisers who may have
pulled affiliate ad time during Rush's show didn't affect EIB one
iota. Much ado about nothing. All they managed to do is allienate
some of their customers too.

What those who left didn't realize is the supposed *boycot* wasn't by
their respective customers. Those boycotter's were political hacks
who weren't paying customers anyway. If someone who doesn't buy your
products threatens to not buy your products, so what? It had no real
effect on their respective bottom lines *until* they decided to quit
Rush.

Then when they realized they'd just fucked themselves by pulling the
plug, Rush's audience, some 20+ million strong, quit buying products
from those advertisers and telling everyone they knew why. One
unsuccessfully begged to come back. This is what happened to them:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/6mwtkps And it's still swirling down the
toilet: http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/carb Throwing
away that many loyal customers isn't a very bright idea.

Another one left the Rush promo code on their web site as if nothing
happened. Big legal no no. They're going to pay dearly for that one
on top of everything else. Not only that, but they got it from both
Rush's audience *and* the left: http://preview.tinyurl.com/7t2xrvm

By the way, Rush's audience has grown from that attempt to get rid of
him. His ratings are UP. Can you say double backfire?

This is definately a lesson in seperating money from wallets. However
it wasn't via attempted manipulation from the media nor their
advertisers of their audience. This was a civics lesson to meddling
political hacks messing with peoples 1st amendment rights. The icing
on the cake was that capitalism knocked them out with a one two punch
all on its own.

Economics 101: Don't bite the hand that feeds you, it will knock your
teeth out.

Newb

[Nicholas]

On Tue, 29 May 2012 12:46:49 -0700, ne...@nowhere.org wrote:

>On Tue, 29 May 2012 11:53:04 -0500, Nicholas
><Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> :snip:
>
>>Even RADIO is about mind control and MONEY. What happened when so and
>>so referred to some basketball team as "nappy headed whores"? The
>>sponsors pulled the plug and the Talk Show Host went down the drain.
>
>His name is Don Imus. You can do your own homework on him.
>Personally, I wouldn't mind going down his drain... he's doing pretty
>good. What's better is what they do for kids who have cancer at their
>4,000 acre NM ranch.

Imus had to get on his knees and Beg forgiveness.

>>Again, When Rush Limpballs called someone a DYKE,
>
>If you're going to put words in peoples mouths, try using the ones
>they used. Rush called Ms. Fluke a "slut" and a "prostitute".

That's lible. He would have been better off keeping his mouth shut.
But he doesn't know how to do that, or is incapable of doing that.

> Both
>are true definitions based on the story she told. She'd have to fuck
>something like 9 guys a day, three times each, for the cost of
>contraceptives (over $3,000 worth of rubbers in this example) she
>claimed she spent. And she wanted us taxpayers to pay for it.

You pay for "stuff" every day that the govn't does that you wouldn't
agree with. Unless you're immoral and have no heart and soul.

> She
>was asking congress for money so she could fuck like a, well, slut.
>If that's not a definition of a prostitute, I don't know what is.

They GIVE AWAY "free" condoms at some High Schools. Who pays for
that?

>> what sponsors PULLED THE PLUG and revenues plunged like a rock.
>
>Whose revenues plunged like a rock, Limbaughs? Not hardly, they went
>UP.
>
>>It's =all= about money, people, _your_ money. Think about it.
>>
>>Lg
>
>In this case it was =all= about principles and _the_ 1st amendment.

In this case it was all about who could afford the "better" attorneys.
If the glove doesn't fit...you must acquitt.

>The advertisers that stuck with Rush on principle were nicely rewarded
>by Rush's audience for not succumbing to that attack on freedom of
>speech.

Nazis have freedom of speech also, along with the New Black Panthers.
Means fuck-all in the end. Few "respect" shitheads like them, and
that Rush didn't lose more audience portrays a sad scene of immorality
among his listeners. Also, they've been brainwashed so much he could
tell them that the moon is made out of vanilla ice cream and most
would believe him.

>The advertisers who did leave Rush (seven) weren't allowed back, and
>were replaced before the door hit them in the ass on the way out. The
>company that handles Rush's advertising is www.premierenetworks.com
>There's a waiting list of companies who want to advertise directly on
>Rush rather than just on the local affiliate stations (there's a huge
>difference). It's $60k+ per week to land 30 second spots on his show.
>If you can even get on that list. That's damn near 1/4 mil per mo.
>Some of his advertisers have been there for years.

When money is involved, immoral companies will do anything to get
their hands on it. No surprise there.

>Affiliate station advertising costs a small fraction of that, none of
>which goes to the EIB network. The other advertisers who may have
>pulled affiliate ad time during Rush's show didn't affect EIB one
>iota. Much ado about nothing. All they managed to do is allienate
>some of their customers too.

IMO, Rush is a flaming blowhard. He goes around and around with the
same shit every day. I stopped listening to him years ago. You
ALWAYS know what he's going to say before he even opens his mouth, so
what's the point of listening to his drivel?

>What those who left didn't realize is the supposed *boycot* wasn't by
>their respective customers. Those boycotter's were political hacks
>who weren't paying customers anyway. If someone who doesn't buy your
>products threatens to not buy your products, so what? It had no real
>effect on their respective bottom lines *until* they decided to quit
>Rush.
>
>Then when they realized they'd just fucked themselves by pulling the
>plug, Rush's audience, some 20+ million strong, quit buying products
>from those advertisers and telling everyone they knew why. One
>unsuccessfully begged to come back. This is what happened to them:
>
>http://preview.tinyurl.com/6mwtkps And it's still swirling down the
>toilet: http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/carb Throwing
>away that many loyal customers isn't a very bright idea.

Some people have morals. Rush has none. he spent YEARS bitching
about illegal use of drugs while all the time fiending for more
oxycontin. If that isn't the definition of a hypocrite, tell me what
is.

>Another one left the Rush promo code on their web site as if nothing
>happened. Big legal no no. They're going to pay dearly for that one
>on top of everything else. Not only that, but they got it from both
>Rush's audience *and* the left: http://preview.tinyurl.com/7t2xrvm
>
>By the way, Rush's audience has grown from that attempt to get rid of
>him. His ratings are UP. Can you say double backfire?

That's an indictment of the intelligence of the average American
Public.

>This is definately a lesson in seperating money from wallets. However
>it wasn't via attempted manipulation from the media nor their
>advertisers of their audience. This was a civics lesson to meddling
>political hacks messing with peoples 1st amendment rights. The icing
>on the cake was that capitalism knocked them out with a one two punch
>all on its own.
>
>Economics 101: Don't bite the hand that feeds you, it will knock your
>teeth out.

Some people/companies have morals. I applaud the one's that told
Limpballs to go fuck himself.

Lg

[pyotr filipivich]

Nicholas <Lawrence...@comcast.net> on Tue, 29 May 2012 11:53:04
-0500 typed in alt.survival the following:

>>
>
>Even RADIO is about mind control and MONEY. What happened when so and
>so referred to some basketball team as "nappy headed whores"? The
>sponsors pulled the plug and the Talk Show Host went down the drain.

Yes, and? You would prefer that to pay directly for your radio
listening pleasure?

>
>Again, When Rush Limpballs called someone a DYKE, what sponsors PULLED
>THE PLUG and revenues plunged like a rock.

Say Larry, who is this Limpballs that you listen to? Someone
you wish to emulate?

Something for you to consider: which side of the aisle has the
annual Slut walks?

>
>It's =all= about money, people, _your_ money. Think about it.

If you are not paying for it, you are not the customer; you are
the product being sold to the customer.

Broadcast Radio & TV make their money from their advertisers. They
are selling access to you, the consumer. If you don't like that
model, then you can go with Cable TV, and pay for the privilege of not
getting commercials. Oh, and PBS does have commercials, "... was
brought to you by a grant from Enormous Corporation, maker of fine
products."

News papers were a combination advertising, and
subscription/street sales. (The London times for a long time, had
classified advertisements on the front page. tells you a bit what ht
ye considered important.")

[pyotr filipivich]

ne...@nowhere.org on Tue, 29 May 2012 12:46:49 -0700 typed in
alt.survival the following:
>

>This is definately a lesson in seperating money from wallets.

The most important thing to remember about separating people from
their money, is to do it in such a way that people want to give you
their money. Plant therapists, people who come watch your soap operas
with your pets - because you are too busy working to do that - pet
rocks,tattoos,bras for cars, etc, etc ... Most of the time my
response is "Damn, I wish I'd thought of that!"

> However
>it wasn't via attempted manipulation from the media nor their
>advertisers of their audience. This was a civics lesson to meddling
>political hacks messing with peoples 1st amendment rights. The icing
>on the cake was that capitalism knocked them out with a one two punch
>all on its own.
>
>Economics 101: Don't bite the hand that feeds you, it will knock your
>teeth out.

It is messy, but it works. Mostly.

But the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain
solvent.

tschus
pyotr
--
pyotr filipivich
TV NEWS: Yesterday's newspaper read to the illiterate.

[Stormin Mormon]

I think the ISP should immedicately cancel Nicholas
service, PULL HIS PLUG.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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Nicholas <Lawrence...@comcast.net> on Tue, 29 May 2012 11:53:04

>

[Nicholas]

On Tue, 29 May 2012 14:37:34 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Nicholas <Lawrence...@comcast.net> on Tue, 29 May 2012 11:53:04
>-0500 typed in alt.survival the following:
>>>
>>
>>Even RADIO is about mind control and MONEY. What happened when so and
>>so referred to some basketball team as "nappy headed whores"? The
>>sponsors pulled the plug and the Talk Show Host went down the drain.
>
> Yes, and? You would prefer that to pay directly for your radio
>listening pleasure?

I pay for everything. I bought the radio to begin with. THERE is my
up front "investment." Unless you're an Evangelical Christian, there
isn't much to listen to that isn't pure crap. I do however...enjoy
Art Bell when I can stay up late enough to listen to his shows.

>>
>>Again, When Rush Limpballs called someone a DYKE, what sponsors PULLED
>>THE PLUG and revenues plunged like a rock.
>
> Say Larry, who is this Limpballs that you listen to? Someone
>you wish to emulate?

I like Art Bell...broadcasting from "the high desert." I used to like
Paul Harvey. Can't find him on the dial anymore.

Back in the 70's used to listen to "The World Tomorrow." Fine
entertainment. I'm afraid the show host has past on. Something
Armstrong or some such.

> Something for you to consider: which side of the aisle has the
>annual Slut walks?

Women for the right to be insane?

>>It's =all= about money, people, _your_ money. Think about it.
>
> If you are not paying for it, you are not the customer; you are
>the product being sold to the customer.

WTF is that supposed to mean?

>
> Broadcast Radio & TV make their money from their advertisers. They
>are selling access to you, the consumer. If you don't like that
>model, then you can go with Cable TV, and pay for the privilege of not
>getting commercials.

You don't have cable do you. It's a LOT of commercials. More perhaps
than before cable came on the scene.

> Oh, and PBS does have commercials, "... was
>brought to you by a grant from Enormous Corporation, maker of fine
>products."
>
> News papers were a combination advertising, and
>subscription/street sales. (The London times for a long time, had
>classified advertisements on the front page. tells you a bit what ht
>ye considered important.")

Thanks for the history lesson, pyotr. Not needed thank you.

[Nicholas]

On Tue, 29 May 2012 17:58:00 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
<cayoung61***spam...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I think the ISP should immedicately cancel Nicholas
>service, PULL HIS PLUG.

That's a good moron. Kill everyone you disagree with. Now please go
back to your cell and close the door. It should lock automatically.
If it doesn't, call for a guard.

[Gunner Asch]

On Tue, 29 May 2012 12:46:49 -0700, ne...@nowhere.org wrote:

Leftwingers never learn. They also dont understand that they make up
less than 32% of the American population. Less than 1/3rd. That means
2/3rds are against them.

Something that occasionally..they learn the hard way..as the Rush
example shows.

The problem with that is...most are so mentally ill..that they forget
about the lesson in very short order and try and try again.

Like watching retarded children trying to throw a ball through a tire.

Sad..but..shrug

[Gunner Asch]

On Tue, 29 May 2012 16:32:39 -0500, Nicholas
<Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 29 May 2012 12:46:49 -0700, ne...@nowhere.org wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 29 May 2012 11:53:04 -0500, Nicholas
>><Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> :snip:
>>
>>>Even RADIO is about mind control and MONEY. What happened when so and
>>>so referred to some basketball team as "nappy headed whores"? The
>>>sponsors pulled the plug and the Talk Show Host went down the drain.
>>
>>His name is Don Imus. You can do your own homework on him.
>>Personally, I wouldn't mind going down his drain... he's doing pretty
>>good. What's better is what they do for kids who have cancer at their
>>4,000 acre NM ranch.
>
>Imus had to get on his knees and Beg forgiveness.
>
>>>Again, When Rush Limpballs called someone a DYKE,
>>
>>If you're going to put words in peoples mouths, try using the ones
>>they used. Rush called Ms. Fluke a "slut" and a "prostitute".
>
>That's lible. He would have been better off keeping his mouth shut.
>But he doesn't know how to do that, or is incapable of doing that.

If it were so..the slut would have tried to sue him. She didnt. So its
not slander or libel.

>
>> Both
>>are true definitions based on the story she told. She'd have to fuck
>>something like 9 guys a day, three times each, for the cost of
>>contraceptives (over $3,000 worth of rubbers in this example) she
>>claimed she spent. And she wanted us taxpayers to pay for it.
>
>You pay for "stuff" every day that the govn't does that you wouldn't
>agree with. Unless you're immoral and have no heart and soul.

And we are trying to change that.

>
>> She
>>was asking congress for money so she could fuck like a, well, slut.
>>If that's not a definition of a prostitute, I don't know what is.
>
>They GIVE AWAY "free" condoms at some High Schools. Who pays for
>that?

WE DO!!

>
>>> what sponsors PULLED THE PLUG and revenues plunged like a rock.
>>
>>Whose revenues plunged like a rock, Limbaughs? Not hardly, they went
>>UP.
>>
>>>It's =all= about money, people, _your_ money. Think about it.
>>>
>>>Lg
>>
>>In this case it was =all= about principles and _the_ 1st amendment.
>
>In this case it was all about who could afford the "better" attorneys.
>If the glove doesn't fit...you must acquitt.

Shrug..your opinion is noted. As is the Peoples..see below...

>
>>The advertisers that stuck with Rush on principle were nicely rewarded
>>by Rush's audience for not succumbing to that attack on freedom of
>>speech.
>
>Nazis have freedom of speech also, along with the New Black Panthers.
>Means fuck-all in the end. Few "respect" shitheads like them, and
>that Rush didn't lose more audience portrays a sad scene of immorality
>among his listeners. Also, they've been brainwashed so much he could
>tell them that the moon is made out of vanilla ice cream and most
>would believe him.

Immorality? Laugh laugh laugh...brainwashed? You really are a nutball.
Pity.

>
>>The advertisers who did leave Rush (seven) weren't allowed back, and
>>were replaced before the door hit them in the ass on the way out. The
>>company that handles Rush's advertising is www.premierenetworks.com
>>There's a waiting list of companies who want to advertise directly on
>>Rush rather than just on the local affiliate stations (there's a huge
>>difference). It's $60k+ per week to land 30 second spots on his show.
>>If you can even get on that list. That's damn near 1/4 mil per mo.
>>Some of his advertisers have been there for years.
>
>When money is involved, immoral companies will do anything to get
>their hands on it. No surprise there.

Again a condemnation? "Immoral companies?" Like Sterns?

>
>>Affiliate station advertising costs a small fraction of that, none of
>>which goes to the EIB network. The other advertisers who may have
>>pulled affiliate ad time during Rush's show didn't affect EIB one
>>iota. Much ado about nothing. All they managed to do is allienate
>>some of their customers too.
>
>IMO, Rush is a flaming blowhard. He goes around and around with the
>same shit every day. I stopped listening to him years ago. You
>ALWAYS know what he's going to say before he even opens his mouth, so
>what's the point of listening to his drivel?

Your opinion is again noted. As is the fact you cant walk on water.

>
>>What those who left didn't realize is the supposed *boycot* wasn't by
>>their respective customers. Those boycotter's were political hacks
>>who weren't paying customers anyway. If someone who doesn't buy your
>>products threatens to not buy your products, so what? It had no real
>>effect on their respective bottom lines *until* they decided to quit
>>Rush.
>>
>>Then when they realized they'd just fucked themselves by pulling the
>>plug, Rush's audience, some 20+ million strong, quit buying products
>>from those advertisers and telling everyone they knew why. One
>>unsuccessfully begged to come back. This is what happened to them:
>>
>>http://preview.tinyurl.com/6mwtkps And it's still swirling down the
>>toilet: http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/carb Throwing
>>away that many loyal customers isn't a very bright idea.
>
>Some people have morals. Rush has none. he spent YEARS bitching
>about illegal use of drugs while all the time fiending for more
>oxycontin. If that isn't the definition of a hypocrite, tell me what
>is.

Ayup. And he admitted it publicly. He didnt hide anything. More than we
can say for nearly all the Leftwingers.

>
>>Another one left the Rush promo code on their web site as if nothing
>>happened. Big legal no no. They're going to pay dearly for that one
>>on top of everything else. Not only that, but they got it from both
>>Rush's audience *and* the left: http://preview.tinyurl.com/7t2xrvm
>>
>>By the way, Rush's audience has grown from that attempt to get rid of
>>him. His ratings are UP. Can you say double backfire?
>
>That's an indictment of the intelligence of the average American
>Public.

Dont get a nose bleed from being way way up there on your ivory
pedistal.

>
>>This is definately a lesson in seperating money from wallets. However
>>it wasn't via attempted manipulation from the media nor their
>>advertisers of their audience. This was a civics lesson to meddling
>>political hacks messing with peoples 1st amendment rights. The icing
>>on the cake was that capitalism knocked them out with a one two punch
>>all on its own.
>>
>>Economics 101: Don't bite the hand that feeds you, it will knock your
>>teeth out.
>
>Some people/companies have morals. I applaud the one's that told
>Limpballs to go fuck himself.
>
>Lg

Your hate, bias and buffoonery is noted.

[Gunner Asch]

On Tue, 29 May 2012 17:07:24 -0500, Nicholas
<Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 29 May 2012 14:37:34 -0700, pyotr filipivich
><ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>Nicholas <Lawrence...@comcast.net> on Tue, 29 May 2012 11:53:04
>>-0500 typed in alt.survival the following:
>>>>
>>>
>>>Even RADIO is about mind control and MONEY. What happened when so and
>>>so referred to some basketball team as "nappy headed whores"? The
>>>sponsors pulled the plug and the Talk Show Host went down the drain.
>>
>> Yes, and? You would prefer that to pay directly for your radio
>>listening pleasure?
>
>I pay for everything. I bought the radio to begin with. THERE is my
>up front "investment." Unless you're an Evangelical Christian, there
>isn't much to listen to that isn't pure crap. I do however...enjoy
>Art Bell when I can stay up late enough to listen to his shows.

So the radio manufacture gave money to the program producers?

Or are you the sort of fellow who buys a lock pick and then breaks into
cars..thinking that whatever you take was paid for by the purchase of
the lock picks?

>
>>>
>>>Again, When Rush Limpballs called someone a DYKE, what sponsors PULLED
>>>THE PLUG and revenues plunged like a rock.
>>
>> Say Larry, who is this Limpballs that you listen to? Someone
>>you wish to emulate?
>
>I like Art Bell...broadcasting from "the high desert." I used to like
>Paul Harvey. Can't find him on the dial anymore.

He died

>
>Back in the 70's used to listen to "The World Tomorrow." Fine
>entertainment. I'm afraid the show host has past on. Something
>Armstrong or some such.
>
>> Something for you to consider: which side of the aisle has the
>>annual Slut walks?
>
>Women for the right to be insane?

Democrats.

>
>>>It's =all= about money, people, _your_ money. Think about it.
>>
>> If you are not paying for it, you are not the customer; you are
>>the product being sold to the customer.
>
>WTF is that supposed to mean?

Surely you are not THAT stupid..are you?

>
>>
>> Broadcast Radio & TV make their money from their advertisers. They
>>are selling access to you, the consumer. If you don't like that
>>model, then you can go with Cable TV, and pay for the privilege of not
>>getting commercials.
>
>You don't have cable do you. It's a LOT of commercials. More perhaps
>than before cable came on the scene.

Indeed. And you have a problem with them as well?

>
>> Oh, and PBS does have commercials, "... was
>>brought to you by a grant from Enormous Corporation, maker of fine
>>products."
>>
>> News papers were a combination advertising, and
>>subscription/street sales. (The London times for a long time, had
>>classified advertisements on the front page. tells you a bit what ht
>>ye considered important.")
>
>Thanks for the history lesson, pyotr. Not needed thank you.

Evidently you dont know as much as you think you do.

Pity about that.

>
>>--
>>pyotr filipivich
>>Old farts these days - not like when I was a boy! We used to
>>have us Real Geezers in those days! Now, they'll let anybody
>>with a little gray hair be an old fart!

[Gunner Asch]

On Tue, 29 May 2012 17:10:38 -0500, Nicholas
<Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 29 May 2012 17:58:00 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
><cayoung61***spam...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I think the ISP should immedicately cancel Nicholas
>>service, PULL HIS PLUG.
>
>That's a good moron. Kill everyone you disagree with. Now please go
>back to your cell and close the door. It should lock automatically.
>If it doesn't, call for a guard.

Kill? Larry is either off his meds..or taking way way too many of them

>
>>
>>Christopher A. Young
>>Learn more about Jesus
>> www.lds.org
>>.
>>
>>"pyotr filipivich" <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>news:hufas7d9tq2lpv8v0...@4ax.com...
>>Nicholas <Lawrence...@comcast.net> on Tue, 29 May 2012 11:53:04
>>
>>>
>>>Again, When Rush Limpballs called someone a
>>>DYKE, what sponsors PULLED
>>>THE PLUG and revenues plunged like a rock.
>>
>>Say Larry, who is this Limpballs that you listen to?
>>Someone you wish to emulate?
>>
>>

[Nicholas]

On Tue, 29 May 2012 16:30:50 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>

wrote:

>On Tue, 29 May 2012 17:10:38 -0500, Nicholas
><Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 29 May 2012 17:58:00 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
>><cayoung61***spam...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I think the ISP should immedicately cancel Nicholas
>>>service, PULL HIS PLUG.
>>
>>That's a good moron. Kill everyone you disagree with. Now please go
>>back to your cell and close the door. It should lock automatically.
>>If it doesn't, call for a guard.
>
>Kill? Larry is either off his meds..or taking way way too many of them

There isn't anybody out here who doesn't think/know you're legally
insane. Calling for a great cull and such.

Otoh, I think you're just a redneck sycophant, who has suffered too
many traumatic brain injuries. Sure, you have your "following," but
then...so did Charles Manson.

Whoyakidding had you pegged.

As far as the Mormon wanting to take away my First Amendment Rights,
he can go fuck himself, along with that other turd Mitt Romney. If
they both jumped of a high cliff together, they would be honored for
the service they just rendered to this country.

Lg

[bates2012]

On May 29, 4:37 pm, pyotr filipivich <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Nicholas <Lawrence_Glick...@comcast.net> on Tue, 29 May 2012 11:53:04

I call horseshit on cable not having commercials. My cable company
tries to cram so many commercials into the allotted time, they cut a
lot of them short going into the next one. Basically, they interrupt
the commercials occasionally to present a bit of some "show". All at
a dollar a channel per month.
NB

[bates2012]

On May 29, 5:07 pm, Nicholas <Lawrence_Glick...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 May 2012 14:37:34 -0700, pyotr filipivich
>
> <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:

> >Nicholas <Lawrence_Glick...@comcast.net> on Tue, 29 May 2012 11:53:04

> >-0500 typed in alt.survival  the following:
>

> I like Art Bell...broadcasting from "the high desert."  I used to like
> Paul Harvey.  Can't find him on the dial anymore.
>
> Back in the 70's used to listen to "The World Tomorrow."  Fine
> entertainment.  I'm afraid the show host has past on.  Something
> Armstrong or some such.

Youre thinking of Herbert W. Armstrong and the Worldwide Church of
God. Yes, he died years ago. he was very entertaining. Almosy as much
so as his son, Garner Ted Armstrong. Hes dead now too.
Art Bell, yes, and theres a website, coasttocoastam.com , I think Arts
radio stuff is archived. You might enjoy the site if youre not already
aware of it.
NB

[bates2012]

On May 29, 4:58 pm, "Stormin Mormon"

<cayoung61***spambl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I think the ISP should immedicately cancel Nicholas
> service, PULL HIS PLUG.
>
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
>  www.lds.org
> .
>
> "pyotr filipivich" <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>
> news:hufas7d9tq2lpv8v0...@4ax.com...

> Nicholas <Lawrence_Glick...@comcast.net> on Tue, 29 May 2012 11:53:04

>
>
>
> >Again, When Rush Limpballs called someone a
> >DYKE, what sponsors PULLED
> >THE PLUG and revenues plunged like a rock.
>
> Say Larry, who is this Limpballs that you listen to?
> Someone you wish to emulate?

Theres nothing wrong with LG speaking his mind. On the other hand,
youre a mormon asshole.
NB

[Gunner Asch]

On Tue, 29 May 2012 19:13:21 -0500, Nicholas

<Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 29 May 2012 16:30:50 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 29 May 2012 17:10:38 -0500, Nicholas
>><Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 29 May 2012 17:58:00 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
>>><cayoung61***spam...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I think the ISP should immedicately cancel Nicholas
>>>>service, PULL HIS PLUG.
>>>
>>>That's a good moron. Kill everyone you disagree with. Now please go
>>>back to your cell and close the door. It should lock automatically.
>>>If it doesn't, call for a guard.
>>
>>Kill? Larry is either off his meds..or taking way way too many of them
>
>There isn't anybody out here who doesn't think/know you're legally
>insane. Calling for a great cull and such.

Calling for? Where was that? Now Ive predicted one, yes indeed. One Im
not going to be part of. Im going to spend the time on the homestead,
laughing my ass off with the increasing body counts with each news hour.
You say it like its a bad thing? They are only leftwingers. Its not
like they are human beings. Shrug

>
>Otoh, I think you're just a redneck sycophant, who has suffered too
>many traumatic brain injuries. Sure, you have your "following," but
>then...so did Charles Manson.

So does the DNC. Are they brain injured too?
>
>Whoyakidding had you pegged.

<VBG>

>
>As far as the Mormon wanting to take away my First Amendment Rights,
>he can go fuck himself, along with that other turd Mitt Romney. If
>they both jumped of a high cliff together, they would be honored for
>the service they just rendered to this country.
>
>Lg

You hate, bias and bigotry are continued to be laughed at.

Gunner

[pyotr filipivich]

Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> on Tue, 29 May 2012 16:30:50 -0700

typed in alt.survival the following:

>On Tue, 29 May 2012 17:10:38 -0500, Nicholas
><Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 29 May 2012 17:58:00 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
>><cayoung61***spam...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I think the ISP should immedicately cancel Nicholas
>>>service, PULL HIS PLUG.
>>
>>That's a good moron. Kill everyone you disagree with. Now please go
>>back to your cell and close the door. It should lock automatically.
>>If it doesn't, call for a guard.
>
>Kill? Larry is either off his meds..or taking way way too many of them
>

"If you are happy and you know it
share your meds ...

[Nicholas]

Thanks for the link, NB.

Lg

[Nicholas]

On Tue, 29 May 2012 21:49:28 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>

Man are you FUBAR. It's the Moron who wants to take away my First
Amendment Rights. That isn't bigotry? He's afraid of me because I
speak the Truth (from my own POV).

Now go ahead and give me my come-uppance. You know I have it coming,
you know "I've earned it." Like that poor bastard in Saving Private
Ryan.

I'll just climb back into my shell until the shit-storm is over with.
Or won't. If you're a betting man...bet on I won't. Double your
money.

Lg

[Nicholas]

On Tue, 29 May 2012 21:50:28 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> on Tue, 29 May 2012 16:30:50 -0700
>typed in alt.survival the following:
>>On Tue, 29 May 2012 17:10:38 -0500, Nicholas
>><Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 29 May 2012 17:58:00 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
>>><cayoung61***spam...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I think the ISP should immedicately cancel Nicholas
>>>>service, PULL HIS PLUG.
>>>
>>>That's a good moron. Kill everyone you disagree with. Now please go
>>>back to your cell and close the door. It should lock automatically.
>>>If it doesn't, call for a guard.
>>
>>Kill? Larry is either off his meds..or taking way way too many of them
>>
> "If you are happy and you know it
> share your meds ...
>--
>pyotr filipivich

You wouldn't believe what I have to take. Just to stay alive. It
ain't a pretty sight. Maybe when you get to my age (66) you'll have
your own "special collection" of Dr. meds.

I'm happy enough...just to be on the sunshine side of the grass.

Lg

[pyotr filipivich]

Nicholas <Lawrence...@comcast.net> on Wed, 30 May 2012 04:46:29
-0500 typed in alt.survival the following:

Wanna share? I've the row of pill bottles, my SO has hers.

[pyotr filipivich]

bates2012 <bate...@hushmail.com> on Tue, 29 May 2012 21:27:05 -0700
(PDT) typed in alt.survival the following:

Hey, don't be lumping assholes with the Mormons. His religion has
nothing to do with his assholery.

tschus
pyotr

[ne...@nowhere.org]

On Tue, 29 May 2012 16:32:39 -0500, Nicholas

<Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 29 May 2012 12:46:49 -0700, ne...@nowhere.org wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 29 May 2012 11:53:04 -0500, Nicholas
>><Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:

:snip it all except for this:

This feels like the last conversation I tried to have with you about
that NM traffic camera vehicle shooting. It's like having my teeth
pulled trying to get you to understand my motivation. To that end

let's review what you wrote:

>>>Even RADIO is about mind control and MONEY. What happened when so and
>>>so referred to some basketball team as "nappy headed whores"? The
>>>sponsors pulled the plug and the Talk Show Host went down the drain.

>>>Again, When Rush Limpballs called someone a DYKE, what sponsors

>>>PULLED THE PLUG and revenues plunged like a rock.

Guess how I knew that part about Rush was total bullshit? It's not
because I'm a Rush fan. Although that's exactly what you have stuck
in your pea brain. Shake it loose, get rid of that thought. Ok?
Gone? Good, now let me try this one last time. And I mean last time
too.

We have family within the upper levels of Premiere Networks. They
book advertising slots for shows including Rush's. I also have a
business that I advertise on local affiliate stations with their
assistance. In the course of discussing my Summer advertising
options, the Rush fiasco came up and we got a behind the closed doors
description of what *really* happened.

Not only did I tell you what really happened, I provided you with
cites that back it up. The exact same methodology as when I disproved
your NM shooter trying to kill a cop bullshit.

I really don't like misinformation. If I know for a fact that
something is bullshit, I'll usually make a correction, complete with
cites.

Read these next two sentences at least three times:

When I do that it does NOT mean I support one side or the other, i.e
Rush or that shooter.

It does NOT mean I'm attacking you.

What it DOES mean is that now everyone who reads it knows the
verifiable truth. I write it for those people, not you or whoever I'm
correcting. We actually used to thank people in usenet newsgroups who
corrected our mistakes. Go figure.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled disillusioned ramblings.

Newb

[bates2012]

On May 30, 12:42 pm, pyotr filipivich <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> bates2012 <bates2...@hushmail.com> on Tue, 29 May 2012 21:27:05 -0700

LOL, I didnt think about that :o)
NB

[Winston_Smith]

On Mon, 28 May 2012 20:58:01 -0500, Nicholaswrote:
>On Mon, 28 May 2012 18:24:50 -0700 (PDT), bates2012 wrote:
>>On May 28, 1:24 pm, Nicholas wrote:

>>> The Voodoo tribes in Haiti turn people into Zombies by taking their
>>> souls and turning them into slaves.  But the Zombies aren't dead in
>>> the flesh...only in the mind and soul.
>>
>>Kinda like flat screen TV's do? :o)
>
>buy this, buy that, buy buy buy...Marketing is all about mind control.
>If it weren't for selling shit that nobody needs, TV wouldn't exist.

It's 70% of the US economy. We need more sheeples to start watching
and buying. If they turn into zombies, all the better - less drain on
health care. We can feed them out urban rejects.

[Nicholas]

On Wed, 30 May 2012 10:42:36 -0700, pyotr filipivich

ONLY one row? I take 15 (fifteen) meds to keep my wings level with
the horizon. Opps...missed one...make that 16 (sixteen).

You best keep yours and I best keep mine. I have some rather nasty
diseases I wouldn't wish on anyone. I hope you're in better shape
than I am.

Not looking for sympathy...Just the Facts, Ma'm, nothing but the
facts. (Jack something on "Dragnet...Badge 714" remember THAT one?).

Lg

[Nicholas]

Let me point out...you have me mixed up with someone else. I know
fuck-all about a NM shooter "trying" to kill a cop. I have the VIDEO
of the shooter KILLING 2 COPS.

And the video I refer to wasn't from a freaking "traffic camera," it
was from a dash-cam in a Patrol Car. I think we're not communicating
here. These are separate/DIFFERENT events. And FYI, I don't archive
=any= posts so have no reference to look at unless I go into Google
Groups, which is the last thing on earth you'll ever see me do.

>I really don't like misinformation. If I know for a fact that
>something is bullshit, I'll usually make a correction, complete with
>cites.
>
>Read these next two sentences at least three times:
>
>When I do that it does NOT mean I support one side or the other, i.e
>Rush or that shooter.
>
>It does NOT mean I'm attacking you.
>
>What it DOES mean is that now everyone who reads it knows the
>verifiable truth. I write it for those people, not you or whoever I'm
>correcting. We actually used to thank people in usenet newsgroups who
>corrected our mistakes. Go figure.
>
>I now return you to your regularly scheduled disillusioned ramblings.
>
>Newb

2 different incidents, you nitwit. Get THAT into your pea brain.

Lg

[Nicholas]

Many highways in Chicago and surroundings have enormous LED billboards
that look like High Definition TV screens. They pound out
advertisements 24/7, and you can't get away from looking at them
whether you're stopped in traffic or whizzing by at 65.

Soon...it will be Big Brother's FACE on these eyesores, instead of
ad's for armpit deodorant.

OBEY

Lg

[Nicholas]

On Wed, 30 May 2012 10:42:36 -0700, pyotr filipivich

ONLY one row? I take 15 (fifteen) meds to keep my wings level with
the horizon. Opps...missed one...make that 16 (sixteen).

You best keep yours and I best keep mine. I have some rather nasty
diseases I wouldn't wish on anyone. I hope you're in better shape
than I am.

Not looking for sympathy...Just the Facts, Ma'm, nothing but the

facts. (Jack Webb on "Dragnet...Badge 714" remember THAT one?).
^^^^^^^
Lg

[Stormin Mormon]

So, when Rush calls a slut a slut, it's time to shut him down.

But, when you call me names, it's free speech?

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

bates2012 <bate...@hushmail.com> on Tue, 29 May 2012 21:27:05 -0700

>

[Stormin Mormon]

Thanks, buddy. For defending me.

Christopher Asshole "it's my middle name" Young

Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"pyotr filipivich" <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote in message

>

[ne...@nowhere.org]

On Wed, 30 May 2012 19:05:56 -0500, Nicholas

You confused *that* KILLING 2 COPS video with the Scott Powell video,
not me. You posted about *that* in the Scott Powell thread because
you're daft and confused. You finally admitted to it down below.
Stating that you knew fuck-all about it was exactly what I was trying
to point out to you. You talk about a lot of stuff you know fuck-all
about. There's a pattern.

>And the video I refer to wasn't from a freaking "traffic camera," it
>was from a dash-cam in a Patrol Car. I think we're not communicating
>here. These are separate/DIFFERENT events. And FYI, I don't archive
>=any= posts so have no reference to look at unless I go into Google
>Groups, which is the last thing on earth you'll ever see me do.

That thread was from less than three weeks ago, in alt.survival, and
you don't remember it???? I have some of it right here. This was
about the 5th time I tried to explain to you that Scott Powell didn't
shoot at any cops because there weren't any fucking cops in the
vehicle:

___ begin thread titled Re: Santa Fe man shoots police van with photo
radar speed trap __

On Sun, 13 May 2012 12:54:02 -0700, ne...@nowhere.org wrote:

>On Sat, 12 May 2012 19:24:45 -0500, Nicholas
><Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 12 May 2012 11:19:42 -0700, ne...@nowhere.org wrote:
>
> :snip:
>
>>>First of all it might not even be a cop vehicle. Second it was
>>>unmanned.
>>>
>>>http://preview.tinyurl.com/6rlu6eu
>>>
>>>"Unmanned speed enforcement vehicles, like red-light cameras and photo
>>>radar cameras, are generally operated by private contractors."
>>>
>>>Also from that same source, the guy who was arrested, Scott Powell:
>>>
>>>"is being charged with felony criminal damage to property and
>>>negligent use of a firearm stemming from the speed-camera incident, as
>>>well as aggravated fleeing from a peace officer and aggravated assault
>>>on a peace officer stemming from a subsequent chase on Friday."
>>>
>>>No cop inside. No attempted murder charges. Nobody's life thrown
>>>away.
>>>
>>>FWIW, here's a couple of other cites about this case.
>>>http://sfcrime.wordpress.com/wheres-the-speed-suv/
>>>http://preview.tinyurl.com/d7c2zlt
>>>
>>>Newb
>>
>>Did Scott Powell KNOW WITH 100% CERTAINTY that the vehicle was
>>unmanned when he shot at it? How could he? It was night time.
>>
>>YOU"RE the moron.
>
>Tell that to the New Mexico District Attorneys Offices,
>First Judicial District Attorney's Office
>Counties: Santa Fe, Rio Arriba, and Los Alamos Counties.
>
>Main office:
>Telephone: (505) 827-5000
>Fax: (505) 827-5076
>
>They obviously evaluated all of the evidence and charged him with
>stuff they could convict him of. It's what they do for a living. All
>I did was report their findings.
>
>>If I do a drive by shooting at any house, and I don't know WITH 100%
>>CERTAINTY that it is/isn't occupied, how do you call THAT one, eh?
>
>You go play with those fun little fantasies alone in your skull, I
>don't play hypothetical, what if, games. There's more than enough
>real shit going on. Like Scott Powell shooting at an unmanned vehicle
>for example. No cop inside. No attempted murder charges. Nobody's
>life thrown away.
>
>>Attempted murder or just "destruction of property" ????
>>
>>fucking idiots.
>>
>>Lg
>
>So far in this thread the only fucking idiot has been you. Well,
>you're more of a babbling old fool who's off his meds, but that's the
>closest thing to fucking idiots there's been.
>
>According to info taken from the three cites I've already posted (that
>you've obviously not even looked at) it's plain as day what Scott
>Powell did. It's also obvious what he didn't do. Pull your big boy
>pants up and read it all, watch the video's, look at the pics. Then
>you can either apologize for being a moron or just continue to dig
>yourself into a deeper hole.
>
>I'm done with this thread.
>
>Newb

The one cite I visited showed the video from the camera. I am
prejudiced by all the videos I've seen (many) where there WERE
occupants, in all cases Cops, who were shot dead or wounded by the
perpetrator.

I recuse myself from the Jury Pool.

Lg

___ end thread titled Re: Santa Fe man shoots police van with photo
radar speed trap ___

Remember it now? By the way, that's the lamest admission to fucking
up that I've ever seen. I'll bet it hurt you to compose that.

>>I really don't like misinformation. If I know for a fact that
>>something is bullshit, I'll usually make a correction, complete with
>>cites.
>>
>>Read these next two sentences at least three times:
>>
>>When I do that it does NOT mean I support one side or the other, i.e
>>Rush or that shooter.
>>
>>It does NOT mean I'm attacking you.
>>
>>What it DOES mean is that now everyone who reads it knows the
>>verifiable truth. I write it for those people, not you or whoever I'm
>>correcting. We actually used to thank people in usenet newsgroups who
>>corrected our mistakes. Go figure.
>>
>>I now return you to your regularly scheduled disillusioned ramblings.
>>
>>Newb
>
>2 different incidents, you nitwit. Get THAT into your pea brain.
>
>Lg

Exactly right!!! I pointed out that there have been TWO different
incidents that you've totally fucked up. The Scott Powell incident
and the Rush Limbaugh fiasco. That would be two. The imagined video
of two cops getting shot that you have isn't anything we've ever
discussed. Never. It's also not the same incident as the Scott
Powell shooting. You are the one who's confused about those here pal,
not us. It was like getting my teeth pulled to point that out to you.
Just like this Rush crap.

I know there are a few folks in here who like LG. Would one of you
please explain all this to him? I don't speak whatever language the
voices he hears does. I really do think he needs some help with his
meds. And I mean that with all sincerity.

You can have all of the last words you want, you're going in the bozo
bin.

Newb

[Nicholas]

THANK GOD. JUST GET THE FUCK OFF MY BACK WITH THIS SHIT WILL YA? I'M
SICK OF HEARING ABOUT IT AND I'M ESPECIALLY SICK OF YOU.

Lg

[pyotr filipivich]

Nicholas <Lawrence...@comcast.net> on Tue, 29 May 2012 17:07:24

-0500 typed in alt.survival the following:

>On Tue, 29 May 2012 14:37:34 -0700, pyotr filipivich
><ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>Nicholas <Lawrence...@comcast.net> on Tue, 29 May 2012 11:53:04

>>-0500 typed in alt.survival the following:
>>>>
>>>

>>>Even RADIO is about mind control and MONEY. What happened when so and
>>>so referred to some basketball team as "nappy headed whores"? The
>>>sponsors pulled the plug and the Talk Show Host went down the drain.
>>

>> Yes, and? You would prefer that to pay directly for your radio
>>listening pleasure?
>

>I pay for everything. I bought the radio to begin with. THERE is my
>up front "investment."

You bought the hardware. Now you insist that the software be
given you? And who is going to pay for that?
Because what you seem unable to grasp is that your radio does not
have a"meterbox" to charge or bill you for your listening time.

> Unless you're an Evangelical Christian, there
>isn't much to listen to that isn't pure crap. I do however...enjoy
>Art Bell when I can stay up late enough to listen to his shows.
>
>>>

>>>Again, When Rush Limpballs called someone a DYKE, what sponsors PULLED
>>>THE PLUG and revenues plunged like a rock.
>>

>> Say Larry, who is this Limpballs that you listen to? Someone
>>you wish to emulate?
>

>I like Art Bell...broadcasting from "the high desert." I used to like
>Paul Harvey. Can't find him on the dial anymore.
>
>Back in the 70's used to listen to "The World Tomorrow." Fine
>entertainment. I'm afraid the show host has past on. Something
>Armstrong or some such.

Still haven't provided much of an answer to as to who that
Limpballs character you listen to is. Not that I really was expecting
you to.

>
>> Something for you to consider: which side of the aisle has the
>>annual Slut walks?
>

>Women for the right to be insane?

Ah, you don't watch TV or listen to the radio. Nor read papers
which require you to pay for them

>
>>>It's =all= about money, people, _your_ money. Think about it.
>>
>> If you are not paying for it, you are not the customer; you are
>>the product being sold to the customer.
>

>WTF is that supposed to mean?

Oh dear. You really are that stupid. Which explains why you
believe that because you bought the radio you've done your part to
support the "free" broadcasts.
All that schooling, and you can't figure such an obvious statement
out.

>>
>> Broadcast Radio & TV make their money from their advertisers. They
>>are selling access to you, the consumer. If you don't like that
>>model, then you can go with Cable TV, and pay for the privilege of not
>>getting commercials.
>

>You don't have cable do you. It's a LOT of commercials. More perhaps
>than before cable came on the scene.
>

>> Oh, and PBS does have commercials, "... was
>>brought to you by a grant from Enormous Corporation, maker of fine
>>products."
>>
>> News papers were a combination advertising, and
>>subscription/street sales. (The London times for a long time, had
>>classified advertisements on the front page. tells you a bit what ht
>>ye considered important.")
>

>Thanks for the history lesson, pyotr. Not needed thank you.

It would seem from your responses that while you may have been to
school and gotten the data, you didn't make the next step and
integrate the data which you received into an education.


toodles
pyotr

--
pyotr filipivich
"I had just been through hell and must have looked like death warmed
over walking into the saloon, because when I asked the bartender
whether they served zombies he said, 'Sure, what'll you have?'"
from I Hear America Swinging by Peter DeVries

[Nicholas]

On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 11:01:21 -0700, pyotr filipivich

<ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Nicholas <Lawrence...@comcast.net> on Tue, 29 May 2012 17:07:24
>-0500 typed in alt.survival the following:
>>On Tue, 29 May 2012 14:37:34 -0700, pyotr filipivich
>><ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Nicholas <Lawrence...@comcast.net> on Tue, 29 May 2012 11:53:04
>>>-0500 typed in alt.survival the following:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Even RADIO is about mind control and MONEY. What happened when so and
>>>>so referred to some basketball team as "nappy headed whores"? The
>>>>sponsors pulled the plug and the Talk Show Host went down the drain.
>>>
>>> Yes, and? You would prefer that to pay directly for your radio
>>>listening pleasure?
>>
>>I pay for everything. I bought the radio to begin with. THERE is my
>>up front "investment."
>
> You bought the hardware. Now you insist that the software be
>given you? And who is going to pay for that?
> Because what you seem unable to grasp is that your radio does not
>have a"meterbox" to charge or bill you for your listening time.

When I buy a computer, it's already there...installed. Why shouldn't
it be there with other hardware? Well it is. Your "TV" wouldn't run
without installed firmware.

>> Unless you're an Evangelical Christian, there
>>isn't much to listen to that isn't pure crap. I do however...enjoy
>>Art Bell when I can stay up late enough to listen to his shows.
>>
>>>>
>>>>Again, When Rush Limpballs called someone a DYKE, what sponsors PULLED
>>>>THE PLUG and revenues plunged like a rock.
>>>
>>> Say Larry, who is this Limpballs that you listen to? Someone
>>>you wish to emulate?
>>
>>I like Art Bell...broadcasting from "the high desert." I used to like
>>Paul Harvey. Can't find him on the dial anymore.
>>
>>Back in the 70's used to listen to "The World Tomorrow." Fine
>>entertainment. I'm afraid the show host has past on. Something
>>Armstrong or some such.
>
> Still haven't provided much of an answer to as to who that
>Limpballs character you listen to is. Not that I really was expecting
>you to.

Rush Limbaugh you peanut head.

>>> Something for you to consider: which side of the aisle has the
>>>annual Slut walks?
>>
>>Women for the right to be insane?
>
> Ah, you don't watch TV or listen to the radio. Nor read papers
>which require you to pay for them

My TV came through my desktop computer which had a "TV Tuner" in it.
That system died over time. Now I am using a laptop...no TV Tuner
card built in. My wife has the HDTV in the living room. I prefer to
stay in my "office."

>>>>It's =all= about money, people, _your_ money. Think about it.
>>>
>>> If you are not paying for it, you are not the customer; you are
>>>the product being sold to the customer.
>>
>>WTF is that supposed to mean?
>
> Oh dear. You really are that stupid. Which explains why you
>believe that because you bought the radio you've done your part to
>support the "free" broadcasts.
> All that schooling, and you can't figure such an obvious statement
>out.

Nothing obvious about it...except I finally figured it out.

>>> Broadcast Radio & TV make their money from their advertisers. They
>>>are selling access to you, the consumer. If you don't like that
>>>model, then you can go with Cable TV, and pay for the privilege of not
>>>getting commercials.
>>
>>You don't have cable do you. It's a LOT of commercials. More perhaps
>>than before cable came on the scene.
>>
>>> Oh, and PBS does have commercials, "... was
>>>brought to you by a grant from Enormous Corporation, maker of fine
>>>products."
>>>
>>> News papers were a combination advertising, and
>>>subscription/street sales. (The London times for a long time, had
>>>classified advertisements on the front page. tells you a bit what ht
>>>ye considered important.")
>>
>>Thanks for the history lesson, pyotr. Not needed thank you.
>
> It would seem from your responses that while you may have been to
>school and gotten the data, you didn't make the next step and
>integrate the data which you received into an education.

little do you know. In fact, nothing do you know about Yours Truly.
Next to Zero, actually. Yet you presume to know all about me.

>toodles

What's "toodles" pyotr? Some secret code you invented for your Spider
Man Magic Ring?

>pyotr

[Shall not be infringed]

On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:13:21 PM UTC-4, Nicholas wrote:
>
> As far as the Mormon wanting to take away my First Amendment Rights,

snip

> Lg

According to Jeff M, the Bill of Rights can only be violated by the Federal Government, not by any civilian called Mormon.

[Stormin Mormon]

If Rush was squelched for the name he used, that
other guy should lose his free speech for the names
he used.

It's only fair.

Christopher A. Young

Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"Shall not be infringed" <hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b6903395-225a-4849...@googlegroups.com...

[Dustin]

Nicholas <Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote in
news:44vks71a1g7uimdhu...@4ax.com:

> When I buy a computer, it's already there...installed. Why shouldn't
> it be there with other hardware? Well it is. Your "TV" wouldn't run
> without installed firmware.

When you buy a computer, you are paying for the included software. It's
factored into the cost. In many cases, the computer isn't shipped with a
full blown office package anymore. It's either a crippled student edition
or outright trial copy.

If you build the computer yourself from OEM parts, you get no software
with it. You provide that yourself. Cost factors depend on OS choice
(Linux is free, but the learning curve might not be) and supporting
software.

> My TV came through my desktop computer which had a "TV Tuner" in it.
> That system died over time. Now I am using a laptop...no TV Tuner
> card built in. My wife has the HDTV in the living room. I prefer to
> stay in my "office."

If you want tv on your desktop and don't want to replace the video capture
board, you might look into a slingo. Assuming your on cable/sat feed.



--
Character is doing the right thing when nobody's looking. There are too
many people who think that the only thing that's right is to get by, and
the only thing that's wrong is to get caught. - J.C. Watts

[terryc]

On 08/06/12 03:02, Dustin wrote:

> If you build the computer yourself from OEM parts, you get no software
> with it.

Some "retail" outlets here will slip you OEM versions of an OS if you
buy a motherboard.

> You provide that yourself. Cost factors depend on OS choice
> (Linux is free, but the learning curve might not be) and supporting
> software.

It really depends on your local Linux Users Group. At one stage the main
one in the city was running quarterly installfest to reach out to the
"great unwashed", but a new committee turn it back into their own
interests and only ever chased un students. Shrug, walk away.

A few people have told me that learning Linux is no worse than learning
MS stuff.

[rbowman]

terryc wrote:

> A few people have told me that learning Linux is no worse than learning
> MS stuff.
>

It may even be easier for the average Windows user than learning Windows 8.

[Gunner Asch]

There are some VERY good versions of Linux that are very Window like.

And those can really help the Windows user translate over to Linux

Zorin is very good by all accounts

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=zorin

[pyotr filipivich]

Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> on Sat, 09 Jun 2012 04:32:17 -0700

typed in alt.survival the following:

>On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:35:53 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>
>>terryc wrote:
>>
>>> A few people have told me that learning Linux is no worse than learning
>>> MS stuff.
>>>
>>
>>It may even be easier for the average Windows user than learning Windows 8.
>
>There are some VERY good versions of Linux that are very Window like.
>
>And those can really help the Windows user translate over to Linux
>
>Zorin is very good by all accounts
>
>http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=zorin

Thanks. Neighbor left his computer here for diagnostics, then
moved away. Me thinks it has a virus, but I'm not attaching it to
anything. Been thinking I should just install Linux and wipe the drive
in the process.
(Just what I need, one more project to tinker on all day.)

[Dustin]

terryc <newsnine...@woa.com.au> wrote in
news:jqrjhv$6oe$1...@dont-email.me:

> On 08/06/12 03:02, Dustin wrote:
>
>> If you build the computer yourself from OEM parts, you get no
>> software with it.
>
> Some "retail" outlets here will slip you OEM versions of an OS if you
> buy a motherboard.

That was legit upto XP. I don't know if that policy changed when
vista/windows 7 was released or not. Technically, we could sell you any
piece of hardware. Be it a keyboard or even a mouse and then we could
sell you the OEM, instead of the retail copy...It may still be the
policy. I'm no longer with the MS partner company so I don't know off
hand. I'll try and find out next week.

> It really depends on your local Linux Users Group. At one stage the
> main one in the city was running quarterly installfest to reach out
> to the "great unwashed", but a new committee turn it back into their
> own interests and only ever chased un students. Shrug, walk away.

I don't know of any local computer groups or clubs in this area. I was a
teenager the last time I went to one from my home state. It was awesome,
but doom1 had just came out. :)

> A few people have told me that learning Linux is no worse than
> learning MS stuff.

I need to build another machine. Messing with linux in a vm just isn't
the same.... It reminds me of a super multitasking DOS.

[Dustin]

rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote in
news:a3d6od...@mid.individual.net:

My p3 dual (800mhz) can't do it via VM. My hardware is really old on
this machine so I doubt windows 8 would load for real on this one. The
main hard drive has issues, so I'm leary about a reload at this point in
time. It's a daily system backup to ensure data loss doesn't occur when
the drive finally goes.

My other clone is an AMD athlon 2500+. It would probably run it in less
than stellar mode or something..but, that doesn't help much...

I've gotta build another box soon anyway so I can bring a dedicated
linux box up. I think I'm probably going to run ubuntoo or perhaps
freeBSD as I intend to have it replace the Athlons role as file server
for the network.

The other two computers are just file servers.. they don't have much
power for anything else. :)

[Dustin]

pyotr filipivich <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote in

news:1vu6t794afmr0sr9a...@4ax.com:

> Thanks. Neighbor left his computer here for diagnostics, then
> moved away. Me thinks it has a virus, but I'm not attaching it to
> anything. Been thinking I should just install Linux and wipe the
> drive in the process.

Do you think it has a real virus? I ask because I haven't seen an actual
computer virus infection in a very long time. They're trojans and such
these days.

Some of them still require a reinstall tho.. due to the way in which they
patch (and damage in the process) some of the executables.

> (Just what I need, one more project to tinker on all day.)

I was setting up flourescents in a drop ceiling all day today. MC cable..
rah rah rah :)

[terryc]

On 10/06/12 11:53, Dustin wrote:
> rbowman<bow...@montana.com> wrote in
> news:a3d6od...@mid.individual.net:
>
>> terryc wrote:
>>
>>> A few people have told me that learning Linux is no worse than
>>> learning MS stuff.
>>>
>>
>> It may even be easier for the average Windows user than learning
>> Windows 8.
>
> My p3 dual (800mhz) can't do it via VM.

Lol, I have a dual P3 233Mhz. I wold be great as a file server, but I
don't have any large size scsi hard disks, so it is cheaper just to
install 500mb as a second disk elsewhere,

>
> My other clone is an AMD athlon 2500+. It would probably run it in less
> than stellar mode or something..but, that doesn't help much...

Interestingly, SWMBO had a simlar machine as her Windows 2000 based
compter(soely used for Wordperfect use) and when she recently retired
it, I started using the hardware as a replacement for the motherboard
dying in my Linx computer. It went so much faster under Linux, than it
ever did under win2000.

>
> I've gotta build another box soon anyway so I can bring a dedicated
> linux box up.

stay away from gnome and kde as bloatwear. Try icewm or one of the
lighter windows managers.

[terryc]

On 10/06/12 11:22, Dustin wrote:
> terryc<newsnine...@woa.com.au> wrote in
> news:jqrjhv$6oe$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 08/06/12 03:02, Dustin wrote:
>>
>>> If you build the computer yourself from OEM parts, you get no
>>> software with it.
>>
>> Some "retail" outlets here will slip you OEM versions of an OS if you
>> buy a motherboard.
>
> That was legit upto XP. I don't know if that policy changed when
> vista/windows 7 was released or not. Technically, we could sell you any
> piece of hardware. Be it a keyboard or even a mouse and then we could
> sell you the OEM, instead of the retail copy...It may still be the
> policy. I'm no longer with the MS partner company so I don't know off
> hand. I'll try and find out next week.

I finally gave up totally up on Microsoft when someone gave me a
computer with XP installed and MS wouldn't honour the OEM code on the
case but insisted I buy a copy. Get real.

[bates2012]

On Jun 9, 9:14 pm, terryc <newsninespam-s...@woa.com.au> wrote:
> On 10/06/12 11:22, Dustin wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> > terryc<newsninespam-s...@woa.com.au>  wrote in

Never had any bad problems with MS and XP. Worst thing that ever
happened was I bought a rig that had came with 2000, and somebody had
put a copy of XP Pro on it. There was always a nag thingie down in the
bottom corner of the screen about it not being legit. Which was true
enough. For $30 I could get the copy of XP certified and make it all
good. But I never did. Only real difference was I could only get
automatic updates. It wouldnt let me go get them manually. But that
wasnt no big deal. Wife used the thing for over 2 years and was happy
with it. Now she has a laptop with Vista, which everybody seems to
hate, but weve not had any problems with it.
NB

[rbowman]

Dustin wrote:

> I've gotta build another box soon anyway so I can bring a dedicated
> linux box up. I think I'm probably going to run ubuntoo or perhaps
> freeBSD as I intend to have it replace the Athlons role as file server
> for the network.

It's personal taste but I and most people where I work are running Kubuntu.
Ubuntu went to the Unity desktop which I found annoying enough that after
two days I was slurping down the KDE packages. Like the Windows 8
developers, Shuttlesworth has a vision of Ubuntu's future that is more touch
screen oriented than many developers are comfortable with.

[pyotr filipivich]

Dustin <bughunte...@gmail.com> on Sun, 10 Jun 2012 01:55:21 GMT

typed in alt.survival the following:

>pyotr filipivich <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote in
>news:1vu6t794afmr0sr9a...@4ax.com:
>
>> Thanks. Neighbor left his computer here for diagnostics, then
>> moved away. Me thinks it has a virus, but I'm not attaching it to
>> anything. Been thinking I should just install Linux and wipe the
>> drive in the process.
>
>Do you think it has a real virus? I ask because I haven't seen an actual
>computer virus infection in a very long time. They're trojans and such
>these days.

Don't know exactly what it was, didn't want to tempt fate trying
to find out. Not worth the candle."
I want to put a Linux distro on it for two reasons: so I can have
a Unix box to play on, and to wipe whatever personal data they left.

>
>Some of them still require a reinstall tho.. due to the way in which they
>patch (and damage in the process) some of the executables.

If I am going to all that trouble, I might as well wipe it and
start over.

>
>> (Just what I need, one more project to tinker on all day.)
>
>I was setting up flourescents in a drop ceiling all day today. MC cable..
>rah rah rah :)

Wee.

[rbowman]

pyotr filipivich wrote:

> I want to put a Linux distro on it for two reasons: so I can have
> a Unix box to play on, and to wipe whatever personal data they left.

http://www.dban.org/

Nuke it good. You never know where that drive has been.

[Dustin]

rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote in
news:a3ihl6...@mid.individual.net:

Thanks for the information.

[Gunner Asch]

Then download Zorin and install it. It appears to be very stable and
after its installed, you can learn to use it at your convience.

There have been a number of Windows sorts of Linux, one of my favorites
has been Xandros, but its gone enterprise and is only available for a
fee these days.

I may dig out a spare box and try Zorin. Let me know how it works out
for you.

[Gunner Asch]

I can get drives for very very good prices. Ive a 250gig WD sitting in
its plastic bag under my computer shelf waiting to be installed. I think
I paid $30 for it. 3.5" EID

Not SATA

[bates2012]

You mean IDE? My brother has an older PC and wants me to get him a DVD
burner and put in it. Ive discovered that IDE drives are getting
scarce at my usual sources. Everything seems to be SATA.
NB

[Winston_Smith]

On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 09:57:33 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
wrote:

Ever since Window 95, there have been hidden partitions the OS uses
for things like configuration and such. Just a plain format does not
do them in. This drove me nuts for a while. I formatted a drive,
reinstalled the OS and an application only to find all my old
preferences still there.

What does do them in is if you remove all partitions in DOS. Then
create a new partition that is 100% of the drive and format it. All
in DOS.

Then you can go ahead and delete that partition and chop it up if you
want. I'm fairly certain that will take out everything.

[rbowman]

Winston_Smith wrote:

> Then you can go ahead and delete that partition and chop it up if you
> want. I'm fairly certain that will take out everything.

Not necessarily. If I had a harddrive with any sensitive information, I'd
use boot and nuke. Likewise, I I acquired a HD that fell off the back of the
truck and which might contain anything from Bin Laden's memoirs to kiddie
porn, I'd boot and nuke it.

[Winston_Smith]

On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:55:30 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com>
wrote:

Right you are. I was thinking about killing executables/virus, not
forensically recoverable material.

[pyotr filipivich]

Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> on Sun, 10 Jun 2012 12:21:29 -0700

Got it downloaded, not to install it.

>
>There have been a number of Windows sorts of Linux, one of my favorites
>has been Xandros, but its gone enterprise and is only available for a
>fee these days.
>
>I may dig out a spare box and try Zorin. Let me know how it works out
>for you.

Will do.
>
>Gunner

[pyotr filipivich]

rbowman <bow...@montana.com> on Sun, 10 Jun 2012 09:57:33 -0600 typed
in alt.survival the following:

I don't know, but I know enough ...

[pyotr filipivich]

rbowman <bow...@montana.com> on Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:55:30 -0600 typed
in alt.survival the following:

The problem is he couldn't get it to boot, and I don't recall if I
could either.

It is down the list of things to do. After "repair the metal
detector" and fix the dollhouse.

Lawnmower overhaul soonest.

[Gunner Asch]

Ayup. Typo..

www.microcenter.com is where I get a lot of stuff, along with
www.recomp.com

[bates2012]

I get most everything at www.newegg.com and www.geeks.com but Im
always open to new sources. Thanks for the links.
NB

[Winston_Smith]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:26:33 -0700 (PDT), bates2012
<bate...@hushmail.com> wrote:

>I get most everything at www.newegg.com and www.geeks.com but Im
>always open to new sources.

I've pretty much used Newegg for everything of the last decade. So
far they have been perfect. I got one item from Tiger Direct because
they were the only source for that item. They did that one OK, but
that's my only experience with them.

[pyotr filipivich]

Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> on Tue, 29 May 2012 16:30:05 -0700

typed in alt.survival the following:

>On Tue, 29 May 2012 17:07:24 -0500, Nicholas
><Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 29 May 2012 14:37:34 -0700, pyotr filipivich
>><ph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Nicholas <Lawrence...@comcast.net> on Tue, 29 May 2012 11:53:04

>>>-0500 typed in alt.survival the following:
>>>>>
>>>>

>>>>Even RADIO is about mind control and MONEY. What happened when so and
>>>>so referred to some basketball team as "nappy headed whores"? The
>>>>sponsors pulled the plug and the Talk Show Host went down the drain.
>>>
>>> Yes, and? You would prefer that to pay directly for your radio
>>>listening pleasure?
>>
>>I pay for everything. I bought the radio to begin with. THERE is my
>>up front "investment." Unless you're an Evangelical Christian, there
>>isn't much to listen to that isn't pure crap. I do however...enjoy
>>Art Bell when I can stay up late enough to listen to his shows.
>
>So the radio manufacture gave money to the program producers?
>
>Or are you the sort of fellow who buys a lock pick and then breaks into
>cars..thinking that whatever you take was paid for by the purchase of
>the lock picks?
>>
>>>>
>>>>Again, When Rush Limpballs called someone a DYKE, what sponsors PULLED
>>>>THE PLUG and revenues plunged like a rock.
>>>
>>> Say Larry, who is this Limpballs that you listen to? Someone
>>>you wish to emulate?
>>
>>I like Art Bell...broadcasting from "the high desert." I used to like
>>Paul Harvey. Can't find him on the dial anymore.
>
>He died
>
>>
>>Back in the 70's used to listen to "The World Tomorrow." Fine
>>entertainment. I'm afraid the show host has past on. Something
>>Armstrong or some such.
>>
>>> Something for you to consider: which side of the aisle has the
>>>annual Slut walks?
>>
>>Women for the right to be insane?
>
>Democrats.

Democrats who want the right to dress like prostitutes, but not be
treated like one. Usual square the circle approach of Democrat
progressives.
>>
>>>>It's =all= about money, people, _your_ money. Think about it.
>>>
>>> If you are not paying for it, you are not the customer; you are
>>>the product being sold to the customer.
>>
>>WTF is that supposed to mean?
>
>Surely you are not THAT stupid..are you?

I do believe he is.
>>
>>>
>>> Broadcast Radio & TV make their money from their advertisers. They
>>>are selling access to you, the consumer. If you don't like that
>>>model, then you can go with Cable TV, and pay for the privilege of not
>>>getting commercials.
>>
>>You don't have cable do you. It's a LOT of commercials. More perhaps
>>than before cable came on the scene.
>
>Indeed. And you have a problem with them as well?

I seem to recall that here are channels which have "fewer
commercials" - that is the commercials come between the movies.
>>
>>> Oh, and PBS does have commercials, "... was
>>>brought to you by a grant from Enormous Corporation, maker of fine
>>>products."
>>>
>>> News papers were a combination advertising, and
>>>subscription/street sales. (The London times for a long time, had
>>>classified advertisements on the front page. tells you a bit what ht
>>>ye considered important.")
>>
>>Thanks for the history lesson, pyotr. Not needed thank you.
>
>Evidently you dont know as much as you think you do.
>
>Pity about that.