Re: Just over 75% of adults and adolescents living with AIDS are men, one would come to the conclusion homos are 'gift giving'
CB
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>> http://www.avert.org/usa-statistics.htm
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>> Be sure to deny the second pie chart exists in reality
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> What, no takers? So the Ban does play on in ignoring Homosexuality and the
> fact that HIV/AIDS is spread through homosexual behavior and packing fudge
> within the Black community.
Hey homos, the news isn't old, it proves just which culture spreads HIV/AIDS
the most. With all the education on HIV and how it's spread one would come
to the conclusion homos are 'gift giving' big time.
> --
> CB
> While this statement is generally true:
> Godly people 'try' to stay within both God's laws and mans because of the
> Knowledge that one day they'll have to account for life choices.
>
> This statement is absolutely true:
> Ungodly people are Progressive in their sinful, inappropriate behavior. No
> amount of law has the moral shackle as does the certainty of God's
> Judgment.
> Secular Humanism 'is' the religion of 'relavtive moral equality' where
> morality has no accountability.
>
anonymous
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> > "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
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> >> http://www.avert.org/usa-statistics.htm
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> >> Be sure to deny the second pie chart exists in reality
> >>
> >
> > What, no takers? So the Ban does play on in ignoring Homosexuality and the
> > fact that HIV/AIDS is spread through homosexual behavior and packing fudge
> > within the Black community.
>
> Hey homos, the news isn't old, it proves just which culture spreads HIV/AIDS
> the most. With all the education on HIV and how it's spread one would come
> to the conclusion homos are 'gift giving' big time.
Take your 16 year old son. If he meets a girl, he may wish to bring the
girlfriend home for both you and your spouse to meet. And you arrange
for that to happen at a family dinner or BBQ. Nice. Would you do the
same if you son brought home a same sex boyfriend? Not likely. In
fact, your son would likely have been long ago disowned if he were
thought to be homosexual. Homosexual marriage is legal in Canada.
Homosexuals have the same rights as heterosexuals. But doesn't mean
that fathers and mothers won't or don't disown their homosexual
children. It does mean that it would be legally inappropriate to call
someone at school or work fag or homo, etc. More importantly,
homosexuals sons knowing they risk being disowned, or kicked out while
going to school, attending college or saving to rent or by
accommodation, will like operate conservative and live a double life.
So they will headout like other teenagers and party with his friends
whether they be homosexual or heterosexual until say 9 or 10 pm then he
will
attempt to satisfy his sex drive. Modern day teens have the same
options as their modern day adults, Craig's list, web sites, local
cruising grounds, night clubs, etc.
in an attempt to statisfy their sexual needs in what is likely one-night
stands.
So the option of young men getting to know other youmg homosexual men
and dating casually, doing fun things with family members of either
partner or siblings is an unlikely option but it did happen and does
happen in a few instances now and has since the beginning of time, but
it is in the minority. Hence, homosexuals have since the beginning of
time had high STD rates generally. Only the home life of his
heterosexual offspring can change that situation. Most homosexual know
they are different and are not sure why but when puberty hits, they then
realize they are attracted to the same sex, so they then life a lie for
as long as it takes to be able to tell the truth to they people they
love. Somethings they live a lie for their entire lifetime.
Same sex marriage in Canada has helped emensly with that change, but
unfortunately
family support is also a necessary ingredient - particularly for the
young teens as opposed to men who are reaching mid 20s to 30s and have
now life's experience and education behind them - in addition to money.
You see the Tiger Wood's situation is not that different. Even though
he is a heterosexual, to ensure a successful life, he had to life a
double life. And this comparison isn't about the number of sex
partners. A young married guy said, you know, guys don't care how many
partners another guy has - if anythng the guy would be jelious of the
other guy. It is the women who get upset. So the guys will still be
interested in the sponsors that Tiger Woods has which as I understand it
is a certain car, gelette products to name a couple. Well, the young
married guy was correct to a point, but women are pretty fussy when it
comes to cars and no woman wants to be driving with her husband and kids
in a car that is known as a Tiger car. And women have a say as any
married guy will tell you.
I know straight guys and homosexuals who pick up new partners every
weekend and some even during the week. So being a homosexual or
heterosexual doesn't make anyone special when it comes to sex. Religion
doesn't necessary play a role either. People have a right to believe it
makes a difference but statistics would say otherwise as do
newspapers.
The thing to remember is that here is no cure for aids, only treatment
and men and women globally are getting infected every minute of the day
and night. Education and not blame are the only way to fight the
disease. When a wife says no to sex, the husband goes elsewhere. No
different for homosexuals. The extremes are that church leaders will
attack their congreation for sex if they are conrnered with their sex
drive and homosexuals and heterosexuals will drive all night or take a
night flight to somehwere they can get sex. The sex drive is no
different than that of animals. They will do whathever it takes to
satisfy their needs.
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> > --
> > CB
> > While this statement is generally true:
> > Godly people 'try' to stay within both God's laws and mans because of the
> > Knowledge that one day they'll have to account for life choices.
If that were the case, the divorce rate would not be a 45 percent. And
in terms of homosexuals, to stay within God's laws, they simply become
priests and church leaders so they can live a double life with a paid
salary and pension and screw to their liking on the side or within the
church. Remember for most people their is just guilt for their so
called living a double life on their spouse, but for religous people
they can march off to church and be forgiven and start all over again
the next weekend.
> >
> > This statement is absolutely true:
> > Ungodly people are Progressive in their sinful, inappropriate behavior.
No, ungodly people simply spend the money godly people give to the
church on other things. Believing in god or not is a choice.
> No
> > amount of law has the moral shackle as does the certainty of God's
> > Judgment.
Most people are not interested in another person telling them god wants
you to do this or that or the pastor says that god says that there
should be no sex before marriage and
no sex except for the purpose of creating offspring.
> > Secular Humanism 'is' the religion of 'relavtive moral equality' where
> > morality has no accountability.
I understand Tiger Woods was a christian? As was Clinton, and a host of
other famous leaders of sex extremes.
PseudoCyAntz
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>> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
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>>> http://www.avert.org/usa-statistics.htm
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>>> Be sure to deny the second pie chart exists in reality
>>>
>>
>> What, no takers? So the Ban does play on in ignoring Homosexuality
>> and the fact that HIV/AIDS is spread through homosexual behavior and
>> packing fudge within the Black community.
>
> Hey homos, the news isn't old, it proves just which culture spreads
> HIV/AIDS the most. With all the education on HIV and how it's spread
> one would come to the conclusion homos are 'gift giving' big time.
>
From the very same website:
At the end of 2008,
women accounted for 50%
of all adults living with HIV worldwide
CB
BB around 5pm
I'll say this, you don't strike me as a radical, with that said we may be
able to respect each other
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CB is hung up on homosexuality very likely because he has serious
doubts about his manhood
CB
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I'll admit as a teen was tempted in hormonal rage, I knew giving into lust
would be a sin, inappropriate to the natual affection of a chick and dude. I
was strong due to the moral authority of knowing right from wrong.
How about you Sid, did you give in too sucking cock? Did you give in to sin?
anonymous
The spread of aids has nothing to do with pie charts.
> What, no takers? So the Ban does play on in ignoring Homosexuality
> and the fact that HIV/AIDS is spread through homosexual behavior and
> packing fudge within the Black community.
AIDS/HIV is spread by anyone who has unprotected sex with just one or
more partners.
Who would that be? Well it is certainly heterosexual men be they the
married trucker of Europe getting sex on the long hauls hundreds of
miles away from their wives or men who are at home most nights for
dinner at 5:00 but find time during their busy days for sex with any
woman who says yes while his wife say no to oral sex, vaginal and anal
sex or two guys of all ages who drive their girlfriend home at before
midnight and then chases women in the dark for sex-for-cash.
> Hey homos, the news isn't old, it proves just which culture spreads
> HIV/AIDS the most. With all the education on HIV and how it's spread
> one would come to the conclusion homos are 'gift giving' big time.
> > CB is hung up on homosexuality very likely because he has serious doubts
> > about his manhood
No male is hung up on homosexuality because one is either a homo or one
is not in the same way that one is either a heterosexual or one is
not. Yes, bisexuals are attracted to both men and women.
There is no right or wrong in terms of sex. The only rule is that the
two persons involved must have a mental capability to legally consent
and be of age within the laws of the country the sex is taking place.
Now those people bound by a religion may feel compelled to have sex only
within the strict confines of what the pastor/priest tells them and that
personal choice has nothing to do with society in general but only their
individual code of conduct.
The sad reality of young men who are homosexual raises the question:
Who can they trust
with asking about being a homosexual and where do they ask? Family
doctors may inform parents. Friends may squeal about their enquiries.
So they have no one to ask. Even if the young men have heterosexual sex
as a cover, booze, sexual urge and desire often lead to opportunities by
married men, single men, men of authority, and men of trust as well as
young peers like them self who will offer sex to this young man. If the
young man agrees, he has likely agreed to sex without being informed of
the risks of all the well known and obscure STDs one can catch be they
heterosexual or homosexual.
In the modern world we know how young heterosexual men and women date
with the support and examples of television, society as a whole and
millions of examples everywhere.
No mirror image is available to most homosexuals in society. The
slightest showing of affection can put the two men's lives at risk. If
you watched the UFC last night you would see straight fighters give each
other kisses of what can only be presumed non sexual excitement on
global tv. A guy was walking down the street witha few friends last
night, too, and commented on two guys they passed and said those guys
are homosexual and the guy was probably right, but what he didn't say
and should have is that those two homosexuals could only have been
created by a heterosexual couple. Heterosexuals constantly try to
remind the world there are all these horrible homosexuals, but what they
refuse to acknowledge is that they created every homosexual that has
walked the earth. Simple, homosexuals cannot create other homosexuals.
And what is more complex and even compelling is that homosexuality is
not genetic, or at least not likely, homosexuality is far, far more
complex. A man and a woman who create
a homosexual offspring have to have a special relationship between each
other and each parent has to have a unique and special relationship with
whatever offspring eventually
turns out to be a homosexual. Now, enlightened and acknowledging
society can see the development of homosexuality within a child
happening before their eyes, but the majority of heterosexuals blame the
other partner or worse the child that had nothing to do with the control
of their development. This disregard of child rearing that occurs is
fascinating because statically it is about 1 in 10 offspring is
homosexual and that number is just as stable as the divorce rate of
around 45 percent of all marriages.
The spread of aids is primarily the cultural lack of a will to educate
and protect
its vulnerable individuals that are at higher risk of catching aids.
Once infected with aids, the problem is entirely different and has
nothing to do with their sexuality. Once a person has aids, they
realize they have a death sentence on two levels. Firstly, sex becomes
for anyone infected with aids a death sentence in terms of the law
because from the moment they are informed of their HIV/AIDS status they
must tell every partner they are HIV positive else they could and likely
will be criminally charged whether they be a heterosexual football
player or a homosexual drag queen. The second aspect to the HIV/AIDS
infected status is similar to a person infected with cancer, life
becomes precious for them, in fact, more precious because they know they
are likely, very likely to die relative soon in 5 or 10 years or less so
they take risks in all aspects of life, because they can knowing what
they are facing, and that makes these individual unique whether they
have AIDS or cancer.
Considering STDs have been around since the beginning of time and are
regularly declared to be pandemic from time to time in spite of global
availability of antibiotics to treat all STDs but AIDS and herpes since
the early 1900s one has to wonder how it would be possible for the world
to change.
Remember, every member of society is responsible for creating the world
we live in. Those that protest the most about the world they live in
are heterosexuals and they have the greatest power to change the world,
but historically they have used that power to destroy the world firstly
by overpopulating it and secondly by wars where they kill each other and
thirdly, a culture with a divorce rate of probably 45 percent destroy
the family unit in one way or another.
CB
>> Be sure to deny the second pie chart exists in reality
>
> The spread of aids has nothing to do with pie charts.
...and The Band Played On
>
>> What, no takers? So the Ban does play on in ignoring Homosexuality
>> and the fact that HIV/AIDS is spread through homosexual behavior and
>> packing fudge within the Black community.
>
> AIDS/HIV is spread by anyone who has unprotected sex with just one or
> more partners.
Like homosexual males who do not form long lasting relationships but have
lots of 'hook-ups'
anonymous
Well, CB, nice opening remark but you left out the content. When young
boys can't bring a boyfriend home but his brother can bring a girlfriend
home to meet the family, what are the kid's chances of learning and
growing about how to form a loving relationship with anyone when they
themselves are the most hated people on the planet across all cultures,
races, religions and ethnic groupings.
And CB, you need to go to Craig's list on the internet to see what your
brother and sister heterosexuals are doing posting and meeting for sex
on a daily basis 7 days a week, not just for a saturday night piece of
tail.
And, CB, you need to be reminded that 45 cent of all marriages end in
divorce and probably another 24 percent rely on affairs and paid-for-sex
to get them through life.
So don't try to talk about the virtues of heterosexual life unless you
state all the facts and give examples. Homosexuals know how good
homosexual life is in spite of being the most hated people on the
planet. Homosexuals also know how good heterosexual life is because no,
I repeat no heterosexual will talk or post about how good heterosexual
life is. All heterosexual men complain their wife won't give them head
or take it up the butt. All het porn is about putting a penis in a
woman's mouth, vagina and butt and then withdrawing to squirt juice in
her eyes, mouth and on her face while shoving her around like she is a
piece of meat and not a beautiful loving human being.
CB, it looks like you have research and work to do to keep your posts
accurate. But keep posting because I love to fill in the blanks.
CB
Nay...I'll pass on answering you in the future, you've got a reprobate mind
and I don't associate with such folk. You'll have to get your jollies from
Craig.
RichTravsky
CB's idea of research is Limdoper et al.
Oh, and don't confuse him with the facts.
RT
CB
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Your idea of research is anal
>
> Oh, and don't confuse him with the facts.
The fact is, AIDS is a preventable desease butt yet homos as a whole just
don't care, thus the term, 'gift giving'
anonymous
Now we are talking the same language. Cancer is preventable. Aids is
preventable. Pregnancy is preventable. All STDs are preventable. But
only in a perfect world. And our world, the people on planet earth, are
far from perfect. Young men are sent to the front when they don't
really know what war is about. It is not that homosexuals don't care,
it is that homosexuals have no support from society from the moment they
are born.
Can you imagine any of your young heterosexual boys/young men whose
family members never support them, guided and cared for them? Of course
not. And look how much trouble they cause their parents and how much
trouble they get into. It is not bad that the majority of the
heterosexual world points at homosexuals and says they are to blame
because it won't solve the problem and the problem will continue for
generations to come. The world reaps what it sows.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>Take your 16 year old son. If he meets a girl, he may wish to bring the
>girlfriend home for both you and your spouse to meet. And you arrange
>for that to happen at a family dinner or BBQ. Nice. Would you do the
>same if you son brought home a same sex boyfriend? Not likely. In
>fact, your son would likely have been long ago disowned if he were
>thought to be homosexual.
Whatever gave you that insane and buffoonish idea and the stupidity to
actually post it????
Gunner
"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.
This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost
CB
"CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
Your non-answer says it all. I axed Gary and Richey the same question and
they too said nothing. Very telling.
Someone who's in the 96% majority of natural effection would answer, "no
they're not a homo"
>
>
CB
Try in a responsible world!
And our world, the people on planet earth, are
> far from perfect. Young men are sent to the front when they don't
> really know what war is about. It is not that homosexuals don't care,
> it is that homosexuals have no support from society from the moment they
> are born.
96% of the population are into natural effection, of course the exception
are seen as...well...queer.
> Can you imagine any of your young heterosexual boys/young men whose
> family members never support them, guided and cared for them? Of course
> not. And look how much trouble they cause their parents and how much
> trouble they get into. It is not bad that the majority of the
> heterosexual world points at homosexuals and says they are to blame
> because it won't solve the problem and the problem will continue for
> generations to come. The world reaps what it sows.
Hey, be in denial, see your self as a victim. Or, seek help to change a
lifetime of poor choice with counseling.
The fact remains, HIV/AIDS is primarily a homosexual disease, in America. In
Africa it's in the general population because they to don't practice safe
sex. The proof is in the article/pie chart I've posted over and over, only
to have someone cut it out over and over as if it never happened.
anonymous
Homosexuals, of course, are made by heterosexuals. Once they are
produced, it takes time for them to show signs of being homosexual.
Homosexuals who marry women create a ugly world. Just ask any woman
married to a homosexual whether he is faithful or not.
Then there are the homosexuals whose father is a pastor who stays within
the church so as not to embarrass the family and there you have a
homosexual preaching about God to the heterosexual community. Awesome.
> The fact remains, HIV/AIDS is primarily a homosexual disease, in America. In
> Africa it's in the general population because they to don't practice safe
> sex. The proof is in the article/pie chart I've posted over and over, only
> to have someone cut it out over and over as if it never happened.
It really doesn't matter whether the person spreading aids is a
homosexual, bisexual or heterosexual because the consequences are that
if the person they have sex with doesn't wear a condom, they get
infected whether they are a married homosexual, a wife, a husband, a one
night stand. Once infected, they are infected for life. Actually, a
more vivid example that people can relate to is herpes be it the oral or
genital kind.
Once infected the girl or guy will have cold sores, herpes, for life.
Their sexuality and how they got infected and who infected them doesn't
enter the mind of people observing them. The people just know that
person is infected with herpes for life.
The difference is that with aids and homosexuals, it is an enhanced
problem because once a child is disowned by their family, society and
the world at large, they are left in a big void of support and perhaps
have lower self esteem and that also leads to less safe sexual practices
which can lead to a higher infection rate.
The long term effect at its best is that aids becomes a global problem,
a very costly global problem. In North American culture, it isn't so
bad because there is money and drugs and a passable culture to absorb
the entire aids mess. But take eastern european countries, asian
countries where money can be in short supply, culturally sex isn't even
talked about let alone aids or homosexuality so guys get married and
screws any male he can on the side when he can and condoms may be
difficult to get. The population is huge in some of these countries
unlike Canada with something like 50 million.
So there is nothing wrong with condemning homosexuals and saying they
are the ones spreading aids. It doesn't even matter if it is true or
not. What is a fact is that
someone every second of the day is getting infected with aids and there
is no cure whether they have sex with your son or daughter is
irrelevant. What is relevant is that you care enough to ensure that
there is good education and drugs available globally to keep the aids
numbers as close to the other STD numbers as possible or lower is even
better. You know that more people globally have oral herpes than
probably any other disease.
CB
"CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
Lookie what I found:
http://www.theroadtoemmaus.org/RdLb/22SxSo/PnSx/HSx/hosx_lifspn.htm
The illusion that the homosexual lifestyle is a normal way of living has
been successfully propagated by promoting a "victim" image for homosexual
persons, and by the pseudo-science alleging a 'gay" gene.
Of the reports alleging, or promising soon down the road, a "gay" gene, not
a single one has survived scientific peer review. There is no "gay" gene.
On the other hand, the evidence does show that homosexual persons are indeed
victims -- but overwhelmingly of their own behavior, not that of others.
Typical homosexual behavior includes regular contact with fecal matter from
oneself and from sexual partners, tragically reversing several centuries of
learning about cleanliness, and thus several centuries of growing lifespan.
Homosexual behavior makes no more sense than playing in the toilet.
All available evidence indicates that the lifespan of practicing homosexual
persons is drastically shortened by their behavior. No reliable study
indicates otherwise. The lifespan topic is taboo among homosexual advocates
because the evidence is so damaging to their case.
The following information has been adapted from website:
http://web.archive.org/web/20010124040800/www.cprmd.org/Myth_Fact_004.htm
References are cited in chronological order. This information represents a
fair summary of the available evidence concerning homosexual lifespan. It
indicates that on average, even apart from AIDS, homosexual persons will
probably not live past their 40's, an appalling loss of about 30 years, or
nearly 40% of normal American lifespan.
The evidence shows homosexuality to be a compulsive and lethal addiction,
not "mainstream America".
E. Fox
See also this Website on lifespan and Sexuality Websites (scroll to
"Health")
...
Study after study reveals that homosexuality, whether male or female, can
take anywhere from 10, 20 to 30 years off of someone's lifespan. With all
the attention on smoking, which the National Cancer Institute says takes
from 7 to 10 years off someone's life, why not the same human outcry on
homosexuality? Here's a behavior that's killing people 2 to 3 times the rate
of smoking, yet nobody seems to care. In fact, we are encouraging and
affirming individuals into the "gay" lifestyle. If you truly love someone,
you would steer them away from self-destructive behaviors, rather than
towards them, shouldn't you? Homosexuals need our tough love, not blind
love, the kind of love that is going to love them no matter what they say
and do. We must extend that helping hand and say " I think your worth
saving, let's work on it together."
Lars Eighner
the lovely and talented CB broadcast on alt.politics.homosexuality:
> Typical homosexual behavior includes regular contact with fecal matter
> from oneself and from sexual partners, tragically reversing several
> centuries of learning about cleanliness, and thus several centuries of
> growing lifespan. Homosexual behavior makes no more sense than playing in
> the toilet.
More heterosexuals practice anal sex than homosexuals do.
> All available evidence indicates that the lifespan of practicing
> homosexual persons is drastically shortened by their behavior.
Simply a lie.
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420.4 hours since Warbama declared Viet Nam II.
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CB
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> In our last episode, <4b2cd44a$0$4955$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> the lovely and talented CB broadcast on alt.politics.homosexuality:
>
>> Typical homosexual behavior includes regular contact with fecal matter
>> from oneself and from sexual partners, tragically reversing several
>> centuries of learning about cleanliness, and thus several centuries of
>> growing lifespan. Homosexual behavior makes no more sense than playing
>> in
>> the toilet.
>
> More heterosexuals practice anal sex than homosexuals do.
Butt it's homos who be spreading HIV
>
>> All available evidence indicates that the lifespan of practicing
>> homosexual persons is drastically shortened by their behavior.
>
> Simply a lie.
The Band Played On?
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CB
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> There is no god.
You remind me of the character in "30 Days of Night" when the vampire
says...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUr0IwxCJMk
Watch for it 55 sec. in
Gunner Asch
<use...@larseighner.com> wrote:
>In our last episode, <4b2cd44a$0$4955$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
>the lovely and talented CB broadcast on alt.politics.homosexuality:
>
>> Typical homosexual behavior includes regular contact with fecal matter
>> from oneself and from sexual partners, tragically reversing several
>> centuries of learning about cleanliness, and thus several centuries of
>> growing lifespan. Homosexual behavior makes no more sense than playing in
>> the toilet.
>
>More heterosexuals practice anal sex than homosexuals do.
Is that a percentage or ratio or simply numbers?
Be specific.
>
>> All available evidence indicates that the lifespan of practicing
>> homosexual persons is drastically shortened by their behavior.
>
>Simply a lie.
Both of you provide cites and we will look at both.
Gunner Asch
>>> growing lifespan. Homosexual behavior makes no more sense than playing
>>> in
>>> the toilet.
>>
>> More heterosexuals practice anal sex than homosexuals do.
>
>Butt it's homos who be spreading HIV
And straight drug addicts ..including straight women
anonymous
Homosexuals are the most hated people on the planet. They can't change
how the world sees them anymore than jews could when jew were blamed for
everything. But homosexuals lead a very fulfilling meaning happy life
in the same way that jews did at the toughest of times. Happiness, as
you know comes from within. There is no known or absolutely known
scientific evidence that can detect who will be homosexual and who will
be heterosexual. The most we can do is let the child be born, see how
the parents treat the child, educate the child and give the child a
balanced upbringing or an unbalanced upbringing. From about age 4 or 6
child is likely to exhibit heterosexual thinking and acting or
homosexual thinking and acting. Now, just to be clear, this isn't
about anything sexual but about how they think, move physically and act
emotionally which is related to the monkey see, money do aspect of their
parents parenting and what if any outside influence were allowed to take
place or the child was sheltered from.
> Of the reports alleging, or promising soon down the road, a "gay" gene, not
> a single one has survived scientific peer review. There is no "gay" gene.
>
I agree, no gay gene.
> On the other hand, the evidence does show that homosexual persons are indeed
> victims --
Well, anyone hated by society is a victim. You would think women were a
victim in society if you heard young men talk about them, but when young
men marry women, women make it clear in most cases, they will only stay
along as the guy has a paycheck and treats her well. Some guys never
recover.
but overwhelmingly of their own behaviour, not that of others.
The tragedy of homosexuals is not their own behaviour for that was a
result of a combination of their upbringing and their own development as
a person. The tragedy is the tragedy of the world that abandons any
young child that exhibits any signs of being homosexual. The mothers
try to hide the son. The father tries to abandon the son and the rest
of society wants to destroy the son. Whether the son ultimately turns
out to be a homosexual, a bisexual, an effeminate homosexual or a
masculine homosexual who may or may not be able to pass as heterosexual
can be influenced by society and those influences can affect the
ultimate potential of the homosexual person. For example, there are
lots of homosexuals who are professional sports heroes, although they
are closeted for professional reasons, they are doing well. If they
were effeminate homosexuals, they wouldn't have been permitted in
current society to have been a sports hero or sports professional, ie
football as opposed to figure skating.
IT is the same with women in the early days having to dress and act like
a man to be ale to do certain jobs or get into certain universities.
>
> Typical homosexual behavior includes regular contact with fecal matter from
> oneself and from sexual partners, tragically reversing several centuries of
> learning about cleanliness, and thus several centuries of growing lifespan.
I must laugh when you mention the word faecal matter. You see, my good
man, homosexuals, prepare themselves or all aspects of homosexual sex
and so there is no faecal matter except fo those men who may be soldiers
at war and there is not opportunity to prepare for sex on the go or for
those men who rape other men. But if you type "free porn videos" or
"free fuck videos" you will see men who stick their penises in the mouth
of women, the anus of women and the vagina of women. This is what you
will see and this is what the rest of the world sees. This is what your
daughter will see and this is what your son will see, and if we believe
the news today, children as young as 7 are googling for porn. But there
is a gross error. The gross error is that every woman knows that one
never, never, never, never puts a penis in her anus and then sticks the
penis in her vagina because in so doing one transmits otherwise harmless
organisms contained in body waste but in the vagina it can cause
infections and irritations and is something women should never permit to
happen. Understand this all a heterosexual event and not related to
homosexuality. at all. To repeat faecal covered penises no matter how
clean appearing when withdrawn from the anus of any woman should not
under any circumstances be inserted into her vagina without first being
cleaned or wiped clean so there is no germ transmission from anus to
vagina.
> Homosexual behavior makes no more sense than playing in the toilet.
>
Well, all the behaviour that homosexuals do is what heterosexuals do.
The only difference between the two is that a man has a penis and a
woman has a vagina. A woman can peg her husband/man with a strapon, so
she can give it to him up the butt. Both men and women can and do enjoy
oral regardless of whether they are homosexual or heterosexual.
> All available evidence indicates that the lifespan of practicing homosexual
> persons is drastically shortened by their behavior.
And behaviour is dictated by prejudice and upbringing. I never new why
some children and later they became adults were so quiet. Then I saw
how parents raised their children. My best example are that children
are told not to make a noise and so they don't. In my best example the
little girl's parents rent the basement suit so they keep her quiet all
the time.
For homosexuals young adults they were often kept busy by their parents
with home responsibilities, or the family business. They were
indirectly hidden from society while their siblings, heterosexuals were
out chasing people of the opposite sex.
So the social structure of dating, and inviting friends home usually
didn't happen or was hampered to a large extent. If a son brought home
a buddy who was obvious an effeminate gay or more effeminate than their
son, the son would likely be told not to bring that guy home ever
again. Most family don't support sexually out homosexual children as
opposed to a heterosexual son who is permitted to hug and kiss his
girlfriend. So homosexuals usually must live a double life until they
are financially able to life as a homosexual. Being young and having a
negative experience at home does not contribute positively to anyone's
development and homosexuals are no no different.
> No reliable study
> indicates otherwise. The lifespan topic is taboo among homosexual advocates
> because the evidence is so damaging to their case.
Homosexuals - the most hated people on the planet - will freely admit
that alcoholism, drug abuse, suicide, and a host psychological and
psychiatric problems within the homosexual community exist. But wait,
heterosexuals have just as many problems and they are loved by the
world.
> The evidence shows homosexuality to be a compulsive and lethal addiction,
> not "mainstream America".
>
Well, you could say sexual attraction is compulsive, most heterosexual
men are compulsive about looking at and chasing women.
> Study after study reveals that homosexuality, whether male or female, can
> take anywhere from 10, 20 to 30 years off of someone's lifespan.
Yes, being told you are hated by the world may have a harmful effect on
one's life expectancy.
> With all
> the attention on smoking, which the National Cancer Institute says takes
> from 7 to 10 years off someone's life, why not the same human outcry on
> homosexuality?
Because the world has learned time and time again that it is impossible
to train a homosexal penis to get hard when faced with a vagina.
> Here's a behavior that's killing people 2 to 3 times the rate
> of smoking, yet nobody seems to care. In fact, we are encouraging and
> affirming individuals into the "gay" lifestyle. If you truly love someone,
> you would steer them away from self-destructive behaviors, rather than
> towards them, shouldn't you?
Homosxual behavior is no different than heterosexual behavior, penises,
holes and mouths all the same thing. The destructive part is the
relentless hated by some portions of the heterosexual society towards
homosexuals.
> Homosexuals need our tough love, not blind
> love, the kind of love that is going to love them no matter what they say
> and do.
No, homosexuals are tough. No matter how much hatred you toss their
way, they know that happiness comes from within.
> We must extend that helping hand and say " I think your worth
> saving, let's work on it together."
Well, if you mean saving, then all you have to do is to treat a
homosexual as you equal, invite him home and treat him as a brother.
But if you mean saving him by trying to make him stick his penis in a
vagina, then you really mean conversion and that is a mean spirited
objective on your part, I suggest.
anonymous
>
> "Lars Eighner" <use...@larseighner.com> wrote in message
> news:slrnhipl4p....@debranded.larseighner.com...
> > In our last episode, <4b2cd44a$0$4955$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> > the lovely and talented CB broadcast on alt.politics.homosexuality:
> >
> >> Typical homosexual behavior includes regular contact with fecal matter
> >> from oneself and from sexual partners, tragically reversing several
> >> centuries of learning about cleanliness, and thus several centuries of
> >> growing lifespan. Homosexual behavior makes no more sense than playing
> >> in
> >> the toilet.
> >
> > More heterosexuals practice anal sex than homosexuals do.
>
> Butt it's homos who be spreading HIV
>
> >
> >> All available evidence indicates that the lifespan of practicing
> >> homosexual persons is drastically shortened by their behavior.
> >
> > Simply a lie.
>
> The Band Played On?
At the concentration camps, yes, they did as millions of people died in
the gass chambers.
So if you are saying homosexuals die sooner than that means there will
be less to try and convert in any given year and there will be a surplus
budget within the church.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>> The illusion that the homosexual lifestyle is a normal way of living has
>> been successfully propagated by promoting a "victim" image for homosexual
>> persons, and by the pseudo-science alleging a 'gay" gene.
>>
>Homosexuals are the most hated people on the planet.
Odd...I thought it was well known that Leftwingers, Liberal Democrats,
Communists, child molesters, rapists, Somalian war lords, people who
step on puppies, etc etc were the most hated people on the planet
Gays are way way way down the list..and then only hated by those who do
not understand that their gayness is the result of a birth defect, not
something intentional.
RichTravsky
> "RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
> > Oh, and don't confuse him with the facts.
>
> The fact is, AIDS is a preventable desease butt yet homos as a whole just
> don't care, thus the term, 'gift giving'
Al stds are preventable.
RichTravsky
> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
> >>>> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Be sure to deny the second pie chart exists in reality
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What, no takers? So the Ban does play on in ignoring Homosexuality
> >>>>> and the fact that HIV/AIDS is spread through homosexual behavior and
> >>>>> packing fudge within the Black community.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hey homos, the news isn't old, it proves just which culture spreads
> >>>> HIV/AIDS the most. With all the education on HIV and how it's spread
> >>>> one would come to the conclusion homos are 'gift giving' big time.
> >>>
> >>> From the very same website:
> >>>
> >>> At the end of 2008,
> >>> women accounted for 50%
> >>> of all adults living with HIV worldwide
> >>>
> >>> <http://www.avert.org/worldstats.htm>
> >>
> >> CB is hung up on homosexuality very likely because he has serious doubts
> >> about his manhood
> >
> > I'll admit as a teen was tempted in hormonal rage, I knew giving into lust
> > would be a sin, inappropriate to the natual affection of a chick and dude.
> > I was strong due to the moral authority of knowing right from wrong.
> >
> > How about you Sid, did you give in too sucking cock? Did you give in to
> > sin?
>
> Your non-answer says it all. I axed Gary and Richey the same question and
> they too said nothing. Very telling.
Homo sex is a lame substitute for the real thing between chicks and dudes - CB,
confessing his gay sex
CB
"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
You're as lame as 'it' cumz
>
>> Someone who's in the 96% majority of natural effection would answer, "no
>> they're not a homo"
Butt not you, you got your 'pride'
anonymous
>
> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:54:38 GMT, anonymous <anon...@anonymous.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> The illusion that the homosexual lifestyle is a normal way of living has
> >> been successfully propagated by promoting a "victim" image for homosexual
> >> persons, and by the pseudo-science alleging a 'gay" gene.
> >>
> >Homosexuals are the most hated people on the planet.
>
> Odd...I thought it was well known that Leftwingers, Liberal Democrats,
> Communists, child molesters, rapists, Somalian war lords, people who
> step on puppies, etc etc were the most hated people on the planet
>
problems wherease homosexuals are thought to be homosexuals by choice.
Ever heard of a mother, father or brother who was excited to be related
to a homosexual? That doesn't mean homosexuals don't have an awesome
life, they do.
> Gays are way way way down the list..and then only hated by those who do
> not understand that their gayness is the result of a birth defect, not
> something intentional.
If you could list one person who doesn't hate homosexuals, I would be
pleased.
Homosexuality isn't the result of a birth defect else it could be
detected and the pregnancy aborted.
CB
"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
Not for homos according to the 'facts'.
Homosexual Behavior Fuels AIDS and STD Epidemic
Gay Diseases," the authors described a series of serious diseases comprising
the "Gay Bowel Syndrome." Those viruses, parasites, and bacteria resulting
from homosexual sexual practices include: Amebiasis, a parasitic colon
disease which causes dysentery and liver abscesses; Giardiasis, a parasite
that causes diarrhea; Shigellosis, another bowel disease causing dysentery,
Hepatitis A, a viral liver disease spread by fecal contamination.
According to (Patrick J.) Buchanan and Muir, San Francisco saw a
four-to-ten-fold increase in gay bowel diseases beginning in 1977. As long
ago as 1988, San Francisco had a venereal disease infection rate 22 times
the national average.
Anal Cancer -Dr. Stephen E. Goldstone, the medical director of GayHealth.com
says he has found that 68% of HIV-positive and 45% of HIVnegative homosexual
males have abnormal or precancerous anal cells. A 1987 study, "Sexual
Practices, Sexually Transmitted Diseases, and the Incidences of Anal Cancer"
in the New England Journal of Medicine concluded that "homosexual behavior
in men increases the risk of anal cancer: 21 of the 57 men with anal cancer
(37%) reported that they were homosexual or bisexual, in contrast to only 1
in 64 controls."
HIV from Oral Sex -In August, 2001, researchers at the University of
California released the results of a preliminary study of the risk of
getting HIV from oral sex. They claimed that homosexuals are at a zero to 2%
risk of getting HIV from oral sex. But a study released earlier in 2001
indicated that oral sex is implicated in at least 8% of HIV infections. This
earlier study was published in February by the CDC and the University of
California at San Francisco.
HIV from Anal Intercourse -In the U.S., anal intercourse continues to be the
primary transmission route of HIV infection for homosexuals. The CDC says
there are 40,000 new infections each year and the rate of infection is
climbing because many younger homosexuals are engaging in risky behaviors.
Many have become complacent about the epidemic because of new drugs that
control the progression of the disease. As a result, homosexuals are staying
alive longer and infecting more individuals.
As of 1998, 54% of all HIV infections were...
More -
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Sodomy/homosexual_diseases.pdf
CB
a.. Liberals condone satanism, they also started the Swedish black metal
movement
a.. Liberals also Hate the Baby Jesus and have no respect or tolerance for
Juedeo Christian religions. They do, however love Islam.
a.. liberals are the ones who killed Jesus.
a.. Liberals also make false versions of the Holy Bible.
a.. Liberals support abortion/murder.
a.. Liberals exist outside Creation, as a part of an insipid scheme of the
devil.
a.. Terro-liberal communist non-American is the offical name for liberals.
However, most people just call them liberals for short.
a.. Liberals are atheists/God hateists or agnostics. Agnostics are just
confused about the whole God idea. They are just as evil as atheists.
a.. Liberals watch Comedy Central only to make fun of Real Americans,
because they suffer from low self-esteem and necrophiliac urges. It was only
when our Dear Leader interfered that The Colbert Report joined the
god-hating network to give Liberals a more balanced view.
a.. http://wikiality.wikia.com/Liberals
CB
> Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:54:38 GMT, anonymous <anon...@anonymous.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >> The illusion that the homosexual lifestyle is a normal way of living
>> >> has
>> >> been successfully propagated by promoting a "victim" image for
>> >> homosexual
>> >> persons, and by the pseudo-science alleging a 'gay" gene.
>> >>
>> >Homosexuals are the most hated people on the planet.
>>
>> Odd...I thought it was well known that Leftwingers, Liberal Democrats,
>> Communists, child molesters, rapists, Somalian war lords, people who
>> step on puppies, etc etc were the most hated people on the planet
>>
> No, not so at all. No, because these people are thought to have mental
> problems wherease homosexuals are thought to be homosexuals by choice.
> Ever heard of a mother, father or brother who was excited to be related
> to a homosexual? That doesn't mean homosexuals don't have an awesome
> life, they do.
A shallow, Contemporary Cosmo life, void of meaning
>
>
>
>> Gays are way way way down the list..and then only hated by those who do
>> not understand that their gayness is the result of a birth defect, not
>> something intentional.
>
> If you could list one person who doesn't hate homosexuals, I would be
> pleased.
> Homosexuality isn't the result of a birth defect else it could be
> detected and the pregnancy aborted.
It's a familiar behavior that starts out as lust/hormonal rage. Most people
wait for a willing partner of the opposite sex, a few just can't wait and
because of weakness of character give in to the first person willing
CB
--
"There are a whole lot of religious people in America, including the
majority of Democrats. When we abandon the field of religious discourse --
when we ignore the debate about what it means to be a good Christian or
Muslim or Jew; when we discuss religion only in the negative sense of where
or how it should not be practiced, rather than in the positive sense of what
it tells us about our obligations toward one another; when we shy away from
religious venues and religious broadcasts because we assume that we will be
unwelcome -- others will fill the vacuum. And those who do are likely to be
those with the most insular views of faith, or who cynically use religion to
justify partisan ends"
--Barack Hussein Obama
Sid9
"Gunner Asch" <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:rahqi5hd36lhdb34f...@4ax.com...
He knows that from personal experience
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>>
>> Odd...I thought it was well known that Leftwingers, Liberal Democrats,
>> Communists, child molesters, rapists, Somalian war lords, people who
>> step on puppies, etc etc were the most hated people on the planet
>>
>No, not so at all. No, because these people are thought to have mental
>problems wherease homosexuals are thought to be homosexuals by choice.
>Ever heard of a mother, father or brother who was excited to be related
>to a homosexual? That doesn't mean homosexuals don't have an awesome
>life, they do.
Oddly..I know a number of gays and lesbians, and they to the best of
their knowledge..were born that way. And current research appears to
back up that factoid.
So if they were born gay...how can one hate them for being born with a
birth defect?
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>
>> Gays are way way way down the list..and then only hated by those who do
>> not understand that their gayness is the result of a birth defect, not
>> something intentional.
>
>If you could list one person who doesn't hate homosexuals, I would be
>pleased.
I dont hate gays. Shrug..why would I? I also dont hate people with
clubbed feet, color blindness and so forth and so on.
>Homosexuality isn't the result of a birth defect else it could be
>detected and the pregnancy aborted.
Now then you will be providing cites and whatnot to back up this claim
of yours, correct?
Ill be happy to review all of it.
Failure to do so will make you appear mindlessly biased and bigoted and
of no particular value in the grand scheme of things.
Ill be waiting with interest.
Gunner Asch
>
>> If you could list one person who doesn't hate homosexuals, I would be
>> pleased.
>> Homosexuality isn't the result of a birth defect else it could be
>> detected and the pregnancy aborted.
>
>It's a familiar behavior that starts out as lust/hormonal rage. Most people
>wait for a willing partner of the opposite sex, a few just can't wait and
>because of weakness of character give in to the first person willing
>
>CB
Then you too will be providing valid cites from leading sources of
medical and mental health to back up the claim that gays are made, not
born?
It will be interesting reading. Thank you.
CB
> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 09:58:38 -0500, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>> If you could list one person who doesn't hate homosexuals, I would be
>>> pleased.
>>> Homosexuality isn't the result of a birth defect else it could be
>>> detected and the pregnancy aborted.
>>
>>It's a familiar behavior that starts out as lust/hormonal rage. Most
>>people
>>wait for a willing partner of the opposite sex, a few just can't wait and
>>because of weakness of character give in to the first person willing
>>
>>CB
>
>
> Then you too will be providing valid cites from leading sources of
> medical and mental health to back up the claim that gays are made, not
> born?
>
> It will be interesting reading. Thank you.
I know from from experience, as you do too.
I resisted homosexual activities, although tempted. The knowledge of knowing
it was and still 'is' morally wrong compelled me to be to resist and
discipline my self to wait for the right (chick) to come along.
Gunner Asch
>> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 09:58:38 -0500, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> If you could list one person who doesn't hate homosexuals, I would be
>>>> pleased.
>>>> Homosexuality isn't the result of a birth defect else it could be
>>>> detected and the pregnancy aborted.
>>>
>>>It's a familiar behavior that starts out as lust/hormonal rage. Most
>>>people
>>>wait for a willing partner of the opposite sex, a few just can't wait and
>>>because of weakness of character give in to the first person willing
>>>
>>>CB
>>
>>
>> Then you too will be providing valid cites from leading sources of
>> medical and mental health to back up the claim that gays are made, not
>> born?
>>
>> It will be interesting reading. Thank you.
>
>I know from from experience, as you do too.
Actually..no I do not know.
>
>I resisted homosexual activities, although tempted. The knowledge of knowing
>it was and still 'is' morally wrong compelled me to be to resist and
>discipline my self to wait for the right (chick) to come along.
>
So you are as yet, unwilling to provide any citations to back up your
claims and world view.
Hummm...are you claiming that there is none? Or are you claiming that
your personal experience as a kid with a stiff dick and no place to put
it, trumps many many billions of manhours of scientific research and
investigation?
Why wont you provide citations?
CB
We already know what Libs do with data when political agendas mix with
grants
>
> Why wont you provide citations?
You wouldn't eccept them because of the messanger
Gunner Asch
>>>>
>>>> It will be interesting reading. Thank you.
>>>
>>>I know from from experience, as you do too.
>>
>> Actually..no I do not know.
>>>
>>>I resisted homosexual activities, although tempted. The knowledge of
>>>knowing
>>>it was and still 'is' morally wrong compelled me to be to resist and
>>>discipline my self to wait for the right (chick) to come along.
>>>
>> So you are as yet, unwilling to provide any citations to back up your
>> claims and world view.
>>
>> Hummm...are you claiming that there is none? Or are you claiming that
>> your personal experience as a kid with a stiff dick and no place to put
>> it, trumps many many billions of manhours of scientific research and
>> investigation?
>
>We already know what Libs do with data when political agendas mix with
>grants
So you are claiming that the only scientific data available from the
past 40 yrs, is from Liberals?
Thats a bit...odd..doncha think? No Conservative scientists working on
this?
>
>>
>> Why wont you provide citations?
>
>You wouldn't eccept them because of the messanger
Which messenger would that be? If its a born again holy roller who is
preaching gospel...no I wouldnt. But if it were citations from MIT, etc
etc..actual scientists, I would indeed review the cites.
What Im seeing develope here, is you starting to admit that you have no
cites of any actual value to your side of the argument, and you claiming
that any cites you would bring up would be unaccepted.
So this means either you have no cites and are trying desperately to
cover your ass, or you only have cites from religious leaders who are
dead set against homosexuality because of biblical restrictions, nothing
factual or actual.
I should mention that Im Buddhist...Renzi Buddhist..so waving your Bible
around, while cute, means nothing to me. Hard facts from accepted
authorities will seriously be read and reviewed however.
Im still waiting.
anonymous
Nicely said, Gunner.
anonymous
CB, I love your posts because they are like a preview. They don't
really tell you anything but you feel you have to see the movie. I
think they call it suspense.
anonymous
>
> "Gunner Asch" <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote in message
> news:3pssi5dhes51dcvtn...@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 09:58:38 -0500, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> If you could list one person who doesn't hate homosexuals, I would be
> >>> pleased.
> >>> Homosexuality isn't the result of a birth defect else it could be
> >>> detected and the pregnancy aborted.
> >>
> >>It's a familiar behavior that starts out as lust/hormonal rage. Most
> >>people
> >>wait for a willing partner of the opposite sex, a few just can't wait and
> >>because of weakness of character give in to the first person willing
> >>
> >>CB
> >
> >
> > Then you too will be providing valid cites from leading sources of
> > medical and mental health to back up the claim that gays are made, not
> > born?
> >
> > It will be interesting reading. Thank you.
>
> I know from from experience, as you do too.
>
CB, I love you for this paragraph below.
Just knowing that a man was tempted by homosexual desire and resisted is
awesome.
The sex drive is stronger than the brain. A significant portion of
homosexual men tell me they are repulsed by women sexually. These men
said they simply couldn't have sex with women under any circumstances.
That doesn't mean these men don't like women, they simply aren't
attracted to them. These men love women but not sexually.
There are lots of practicing homosexuals who have had sex with women and
some have even married women for a time or live a double life and remain
married to women but have sex with men on the side with and without
their wife's consent as each situation is unique.
For those homosexuals, sex with women is okay but sex with men is like
caviar, the smell, texture, taste, feel of a man's skin is just over the
top of that of women.
> I resisted homosexual activities, although tempted. The knowledge of knowing
> it was and still 'is' morally wrong compelled me to be to resist and
> discipline my self to wait for the right (chick) to come along.
Life is roughly 20,000 days for the average person, that is roughly
2,100 weekends until the average person dies. Some men feel that they
cannot in good conscience resist the love of another man when the
average life is 2,100 weekends if one is of age of 21. Others like
yourself, feel that to resist men in a loving way is the right thing to
do.
Neither position is better or more right than the other, it is a matter
of choice that each man or woman has in their life and in that sense it
is a choice. But the attraction, is the key point. You cannot kill
attraction, you can only resist it. Most men cannot, even with God's
help or Christ's help resist caviar (another man).
anonymous
>
> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 09:58:38 -0500, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >> If you could list one person who doesn't hate homosexuals, I would be
> >> pleased.
> >> Homosexuality isn't the result of a birth defect else it could be
> >> detected and the pregnancy aborted.
> >
> >It's a familiar behavior that starts out as lust/hormonal rage. Most people
> >wait for a willing partner of the opposite sex, a few just can't wait and
> >because of weakness of character give in to the first person willing
> >
> >CB
>
That is awesome CB. You see, most men I know have sex with women
first. They were told or read that if you have sex with women, you will
no longer desire to consider having sex with men. Sex with women will
kill your desire for sex with men in other words. Sadly, after sex with
many women, the men still haven't gotten rid of their thoughts of sex
with men, even though they have never had sex with men.
CB, your descriptions are so awesome. They are so insightful. Few men
are willing to describe sex in the way you do. It is the honest missing
link in understanding the men who have the same experiences that you
do. There are countless men that have countless different sexual
experiences and thougths and yours are one of the ones that are missing
from the insightful discussion that take place on this newgroup.
Awesome contributions that you are making here. Thank you very much.
anonymous
>
> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 12:50:37 GMT, anonymous <anon...@anonymous.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >> Gays are way way way down the list..and then only hated by those who do
> >> not understand that their gayness is the result of a birth defect, not
> >> something intentional.
> >
> >If you could list one person who doesn't hate homosexuals, I would be
> >pleased.
>
> I dont hate gays. Shrug..why would I? I also dont hate people with
> clubbed feet, color blindness and so forth and so on.
>
> >Homosexuality isn't the result of a birth defect else it could be
> >detected and the pregnancy aborted.
>
> Now then you will be providing cites and whatnot to back up this claim
> of yours, correct?
>
know what the pronoun is referring to.
There is no suggestion that has ever been made that homosexuality is a
birth defect.
Some people think it may be genetic and environmental or a combination
of both.
anonymous
>
> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 12:50:37 GMT, anonymous <anon...@anonymous.com>
> wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Odd...I thought it was well known that Leftwingers, Liberal Democrats,
> >> Communists, child molesters, rapists, Somalian war lords, people who
> >> step on puppies, etc etc were the most hated people on the planet
> >>
> >No, not so at all. No, because these people are thought to have mental
> >problems wherease homosexuals are thought to be homosexuals by choice.
> >Ever heard of a mother, father or brother who was excited to be related
> >to a homosexual? That doesn't mean homosexuals don't have an awesome
> >life, they do.
>
> Oddly..I know a number of gays and lesbians, and they to the best of
> their knowledge..were born that way. And current research appears to
> back up that factoid.
Well, the phrase "born that way" is a nice phrase, but how else can a
homosxual or lesbian look at what they are other than what the know. We
are all born the way we are and we all have the same personality for
life. We don't choose sexual attraction. We are attracted to who are
are attracted to without really understanding why. So in that sense you
are correct. But gays and lesbians often have a commonality that
heterosexuals don't related to in part environment and the relationship
with the people around them.
>
> So if they were born gay...how can one hate them for being born with a
> birth defect?
Awesome statment. Nobody is ever hated for having a bith defect.
People are always nice to people with birth defects except children and
teenagers who haven't lived or leaned enough to see the total picture or
are influenced by parents or peers and teenagers and children may be
cruel.
The only people who are cruel are heteroseual men who are cruel to
homosexuals who are effeminate. Masculine homosexuals, even known to be
homsexuals, are usually treated okay, but heterosxual men have huge
difficulty with men who are effeminate - effeminate homosexual. That is
the one defect that technically homosexuals are killed for and hated.
Even if they men never have homosexual sex, or touch another man, if
voice and movementrs are effeminate, it is like a death sentence
globally across all cultures ethnic and religious backgrounds. Women
have less of a problem.
anonymous
>
> "anonymous" <anon...@anonymous.com> wrote in message
> news:4B2E1CFC...@anonymous.com...
> > Gunner Asch wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:54:38 GMT, anonymous <anon...@anonymous.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> The illusion that the homosexual lifestyle is a normal way of living
> >> >> has
> >> >> been successfully propagated by promoting a "victim" image for
> >> >> homosexual
> >> >> persons, and by the pseudo-science alleging a 'gay" gene.
> >> >>
> >> >Homosexuals are the most hated people on the planet.
> >>
> >> Odd...I thought it was well known that Leftwingers, Liberal Democrats,
> >> Communists, child molesters, rapists, Somalian war lords, people who
> >> step on puppies, etc etc were the most hated people on the planet
> >>
> > No, not so at all. No, because these people are thought to have mental
> > problems wherease homosexuals are thought to be homosexuals by choice.
> > Ever heard of a mother, father or brother who was excited to be related
> > to a homosexual? That doesn't mean homosexuals don't have an awesome
> > life, they do.
>
> A shallow, Contemporary Cosmo life, void of meaning
CB, "A shallow, Contemporary Cosmo life, void of meaning", you see why
people in this news group love your posts. They are like the poetry of
someone in love, vague and romantic.
>
> >
> >
> >
> >> Gays are way way way down the list..and then only hated by those who do
> >> not understand that their gayness is the result of a birth defect, not
> >> something intentional.
> >
> > If you could list one person who doesn't hate homosexuals, I would be
> > pleased.
> > Homosexuality isn't the result of a birth defect else it could be
> > detected and the pregnancy aborted.
>
> It's a familiar behavior that starts out as lust/hormonal rage. Most people
> wait for a willing partner of the opposite sex, a few just can't wait and
> because of weakness of character give in to the first person willing
>
> CB
CB, I wish you had referred to women. Women wait for the right man, the
good man, the man fit for them, but he never comes along and her
biological clock is ticking, so she say no to the men that come knocking
night after night, day after day until she does her math and settles for
less, less than a man she deserves, less a bright man than she wants to
listen to, less of a man in so many ways, but eventually she says yes to
the best man of the moment and starts her family. Women always settle
for less.
You you used a pronoun, CB, but you are correct, if you allow men to
insert the noun, men must wait for a willing partner of the opposite
sex..... Some men don't have sufficent to offer to such a lesser extent
that the only option is to pay a prostitute.
Other men properly wait for a woman who says yes, a willing partner of
the opposite sex, and marries the woman and starts a family.
Homosexuals are a different culture. Ironically, homosexuals have to
wait from the age of about 14 or 16 until they are legally allowed to
have homosexual sex. But at the risk of being disowned or killed or
other horrible things happening to them, the usually wait until they
leave their hometown, go to work or obtain a higher education, but the
wait. But then at the age of 19, 20, 21, homosexuals life the free life
of two consenting equal adults. While heterosexuals are bound by
culture, religion, family pressures, and expectations of society,
homosexuals have freedom outside mostly because they are rejected and
disowned by the world around them. So instead of life being confining,
it is free. Instead of complaining about their spouse, their job, their
life, they enjoy their life, their job, their freedom as never before in
their life.
There is no magic in the life of a heteroseuxal. It is a very tough,
difficult trying life of a million challenges daily. It is not how
books and movies describe or portray it. It is not how parents or
society describes it. I guess you could best describe it like how the
world describes war. It is an adveture to see the world, be a hero and
come back home a hero. War, of course, is a journey of horror that if
youth knew, would not sign up to go to war. Young men describe war
quitely differently after they have served, if they speak of it at all,
in the same way that men and women speak of marriage, if they speak of
it at all, after marriage of many years, or after a divorce.
Pastors don't speak of marriage. They speak of sin, sins of
homosexuality, sins of adultery. They don't speak of what to do if the
partner says no to sex after they have given their spouse their paycheck
and paid the mortgage each month and feed the children and the wife.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>>
>> I dont hate gays. Shrug..why would I? I also dont hate people with
>> clubbed feet, color blindness and so forth and so on.
>>
>> >Homosexuality isn't the result of a birth defect else it could be
>> >detected and the pregnancy aborted.
>>
>> Now then you will be providing cites and whatnot to back up this claim
>> of yours, correct?
>>
>Well, I have a difficulty when someone uses a pronoun becaues I don't
>know what the pronoun is referring to.
>
>There is no suggestion that has ever been made that homosexuality is a
>birth defect.
>Some people think it may be genetic and environmental or a combination
>of both.
If its genetic..its obviously a birth defect. It not like being gay has
any cultural survival benefit. A third Sex has nothing to do with the
proliferation of the species.
And at aprox 10% of the population....or slightly less...it is well
within the range factor for a birth defect.
Are all gays...gay? Nope. Some are bi, some are not. Its a range from bi
to straight gay. Shrug.
But its hardly "normal" biologically, and it seldom is passed down from
one parent to another, although it can be passed down. Im aware of
several families that tend to have far far more gay males and females
than most. Most of course being few gays in a straight family.
So Id tend to believe that its a birth defect..and much literature also
indicates that belief is becoming more
"popular".
So one simply doesnt hold being gay against one...shrug..why bother? It
would be like cursing someone for a club foot or webbed fingers.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
In many places and cultures..Indeed you are correct. In the US and
most..most of the First World...an effeminate male is simply worked
with, or worked around. There are a few rural areas, or urban areas
where gay effeminate males shouldnt go..but they are quite rare these
days..and oddly enough..generally Democrat areas. Few Conservatives
give much of a shit about a persons gender preference, as long as they
obey the law, do their part for society etc etc.
Gunner
anonymous
Now, CB, let us see what you have written here.
> Not for homos according to the 'facts'.
So what is Not referring to. It is a lovely pronoun as you know.
And facts, what facts are you referring to?
Well, CB, you phrase, "Homosexual Behavior Fuels AIDS and STD Epidemic"
is an awesome provocative phrase, but it is void of substance in the
sense that wearing a condom, kissing, hugging, and perhaps even
fistfucking carefully, is pretty safe homosexual sexual behavour that
prevents aids and prevents STD empdemics" in the same way that
heterosexual consenting anal intercourse prevents pregnancy as does a
blowjob.
Oh, CB, I do love the medical words. I wish you would have described
for the world what
a gay bowel syndrome is, how it is accomplished, who gets gay bowel
syndrome and how they get gay bowel syndrome, how gay bowel syndrome is
treated and what happens if gay bowel syndrome is not treated.
>
> Gay Diseases," the authors described a series of serious diseases comprising
> the "Gay Bowel Syndrome." Those viruses, parasites, and bacteria resulting
> from homosexual sexual practices include: Amebiasis, a parasitic colon
> disease which causes dysentery and liver abscesses; Giardiasis, a parasite
> that causes diarrhea; Shigellosis, another bowel disease causing dysentery,
> Hepatitis A, a viral liver disease spread by fecal contamination.
>
Apart from that CB, if a homosexual love partner doesn't have any of
those diseases or conditions, then the person he is having sex with
won't have them or get them either.
Women only give men herpes if the woman has herpes.
> According to (Patrick J.) Buchanan and Muir, San Francisco saw a
> four-to-ten-fold increase in gay bowel diseases beginning in 1977. As long
> ago as 1988, San Francisco had a venereal disease infection rate 22 times
> the national average.
CB, that makes perfect sense. If heterosexual men can only have sex for
a reproductive purpsoe else it is a sin, then that explains why the
modern families are so small and why women say no to sex so they don't
sin in the eyes of God. Homosexuals, being disowned by God if the are
practicing homosexuals, have sex when they want, once they have left
home after they have been disowned by their family. So if gay men are
having sex, they are more likely to have STDs than heterosexual men who
are single and not able to have sex until they are married and then once
married can only have sex for a reproductive purpose else they are a
sinner like a woman.
> Anal Cancer -Dr. Stephen E. Goldstone, the medical director of GayHealth.com
> says he has found that 68% of HIV-positive and 45% of HIVnegative homosexual
> males have abnormal or precancerous anal cells. A 1987 study, "Sexual
> Practices, Sexually Transmitted Diseases, and the Incidences of Anal Cancer"
> in the New England Journal of Medicine concluded that "homosexual behavior
> in men increases the risk of anal cancer: 21 of the 57 men with anal cancer
> (37%) reported that they were homosexual or bisexual, in contrast to only 1
> in 64 controls."
Ask any man on the planet, heterosexual, bisexual or homosexual that if
having sex with anyone would put them at risk for cancer, would they
still have sex. Every man on the planet would say yes. CB, do you
realize how difficult it is for heterosexual men to get sex, courting a
woman, being careful with a woman to get yes to sex, buy her dinner,
drinks, gifts, jewelery, meet the family, and then the guy says no
because he has a fear of anal or any kind of cancer. Not likely.
>
> HIV from Oral Sex -In August, 2001, researchers at the University of
> California released the results of a preliminary study of the risk of
> getting HIV from oral sex. They claimed that homosexuals are at a zero to 2%
> risk of getting HIV from oral sex. But a study released earlier in 2001
> indicated that oral sex is implicated in at least 8% of HIV infections. This
> earlier study was published in February by the CDC and the University of
> California at San Francisco.
Yes, CB, oral sex is risky business. Herpes is transmitted to billions
of people on the planet everyday. Often the real reason women can't
have children or miscarriage is because of the herpes virus that women
have caught or have in their body.
CB, oral sex is very risky business whether one his homosexual or
heterosexual.
>
> HIV from Anal Intercourse -In the U.S., anal intercourse continues to be the
> primary transmission route of HIV infection for homosexuals. The CDC says
> there are 40,000 new infections each year and the rate of infection is
> climbing because many younger homosexuals are engaging in risky behaviors.
> Many have become complacent about the epidemic because of new drugs that
> control the progression of the disease. As a result, homosexuals are staying
> alive longer and infecting more individuals.
Yeah, any guy who doesn't wear a condom has a huge risk for AIDS. Some
women have aids and if guys don't wear a condom, the guy is at risk of
aids even though he is a heterosexual.
>
> As of 1998, 54% of all HIV infections were...
>
> More -
> http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Sodomy/homosexual_diseases.pdf
>
> CB
But CB, if you waited for the women who say yes, put your sexual
attraction to men on the shelf, it is unclear why you want to visit
alt.politics.homosexuality. It would seem like satisfying your needs,
your wife's needs, your children's and grandchildren's wishes would keep
you a very busy man and a man not remotely interested in homosexuals or
the politics of homosexuality. It is awesome that you are so selfless
as to give your best to this news groups and we all here appreciate your
generous contribution even if most of us don't always agree with you.
CB
I'm getting the fact out for the band to ignore them and just play on.
One thing you said is dead on. Homosexuals will have sex no matter what the
dangers are. It's the same attitude that unwed mothers have that DemocRATs
have used in their Eugenics program to breed the perfect voter, ignorant,
dependant and loyal.
CB
It's called, "The Band Played On"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_the_Band_Played_On
How the truth of AIDS was minimized in San Francisco for political purposes
by then-Mayor Dianne Feinstein
And the Band Played On: Politics, People, and the AIDS Epidemic is a
nonfiction book written by San Francisco Chronicle journalist Randy Shilts,
published in 1987. It chronicles the discovery and spread of Human
Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) and Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS)
with a special emphasis on government indifference and political
infighting-specifically in the United States-to what was initially perceived
as a gay disease. Shilts' premise is that while AIDS is caused by a
biological agent, incompetence and apathy toward those who were initially
affected by AIDS allowed the spread of the disease to become much worse;
AIDS was allowed to happen.
anonymous
Nobody would argue that governments globally were slow to respond to the
HIV/AIDS crisis and delay always causes diseases in such circumstances
to spead more quickly globally.
CB
There are specific people responsible! I named her! She never should have
'progressed' as she has in politics. The fact Dianne Feinstein is where she
is today is testament to the homo lobby that suppresses the truth of AIDS
while promoting the unhealthy lifesyle as if relative to natural effection.
Reality sucks
CB
> Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 09:58:38 -0500, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >> If you could list one person who doesn't hate homosexuals, I would be
>> >> pleased.
>> >> Homosexuality isn't the result of a birth defect else it could be
>> >> detected and the pregnancy aborted.
>> >
>> >It's a familiar behavior that starts out as lust/hormonal rage. Most
>> >people
>> >wait for a willing partner of the opposite sex, a few just can't wait
>> >and
>> >because of weakness of character give in to the first person willing
>> >
>> >CB
>>
>
> That is awesome CB. You see, most men I know have sex with women
> first. They were told or read that if you have sex with women, you will
> no longer desire to consider having sex with men. Sex with women will
> kill your desire for sex with men in other words. Sadly, after sex with
> many women, the men still haven't gotten rid of their thoughts of sex
> with men, even though they have never had sex with men.
Homosexual behavior (in my personal opinion) is conditioning which becomes
familiar with practice. Once homo sex is practiced repetitively, sexual
relationships with chicks becomes dysfunctional and avoided. It is unnatural
which science proves with data as to the spread of STDs, HIV and AIDS.
Sorry, reality sucks.
>
> CB, your descriptions are so awesome. They are so insightful. Few men
> are willing to describe sex in the way you do. It is the honest missing
> link in understanding the men who have the same experiences that you
> do. There are countless men that have countless different sexual
> experiences and thougths and yours are one of the ones that are missing
> from the insightful discussion that take place on this newgroup.
> Awesome contributions that you are making here. Thank you very much.
You flatter me, thanks.
I don't mean to offend anyone who wants to talk honestly. I speak from
personal experience, not from a disconnected, antiseptic/clinical point of
few which under scrutiny may have political agendas.
People can do anything they 'choose' to, I don't care. I do care when
reality is suppressed and propaganda is pushed attempting to morally equate
marriage between a man/woman to man/man. There is no relative moral
equivalence.
I can live with fact homosexual relationships exist. It's a free world.
Unions are legally binding and recognized by the courts. I support
homosexual rights but draw the line at redefining the definition of
"marriage".
Merry Christas anonymous
CB
That's how it's been for years now, it's called courtship, nothing new.
Men are more willing to give in to lust/hormonal rage than women. Women
require courtship and understanding. Men, (me fer sure) tend to separate
emotion from sex. Although now that I'm committed in marriage I'm more into
the emotional thing, a romantic. Back in the day where I was Adonis I
considered my self as Don Juan rather than Casanova. Do you know the
difference and which be the fool of Hell 'is' and why?
>
> Homosexuals are a different culture. Ironically, homosexuals have to
> wait from the age of about 14 or 16 until they are legally allowed to
> have homosexual sex. But at the risk of being disowned or killed or
> other horrible things happening to them, the usually wait until they
> leave their hometown, go to work or obtain a higher education, but the
> wait. But then at the age of 19, 20, 21, homosexuals life the free life
> of two consenting equal adults. While heterosexuals are bound by
> culture, religion, family pressures, and expectations of society,
> homosexuals have freedom outside mostly because they are rejected and
> disowned by the world around them.
A sign that it's wrong if there ever was.
People instinctively know it's wrong, the very reason why they're treated as
you describe.
Society has a primordial understanding that homosexuality is wrong.
America's moral athority has been weakened by progressive Liberalism and
will not stop until we're all in the gutter.
So instead of life being confining,
> it is free. Instead of complaining about their spouse, their job, their
> life, they enjoy their life, their job, their freedom as never before in
> their life.
Cosmo contemorary materialism?
>
> There is no magic in the life of a heteroseuxal. It is a very tough,
> difficult trying life of a million challenges daily.
Such a victim
It is not how
> books and movies describe or portray it. It is not how parents or
> society describes it. I guess you could best describe it like how the
> world describes war. It is an adveture to see the world, be a hero and
> come back home a hero. War, of course, is a journey of horror that if
> youth knew, would not sign up to go to war.
Affection can be disciplined to remain natural but one must be as committed
as one is too keeping it zipped, controlled, covered and studious enough too
graduate college. Any diversions can lead to disaster.
Young men describe war
> quitely differently after they have served, if they speak of it at all,
> in the same way that men and women speak of marriage, if they speak of
> it at all, after marriage of many years, or after a divorce.
It's all about conditioning. People either make the most of it, striving to
provide a better life for their 'family' or become complacent, selfish and
bitter.
>
> Pastors don't speak of marriage. They speak of sin, sins of
> homosexuality, sins of adultery. They don't speak of what to do if the
> partner says no to sex after they have given their spouse their paycheck
> and paid the mortgage each month and feed the children and the wife.
Life is so unfay'uh
The key is romance
--
Barack Obama:
Gunner Asch
>>
>> That is awesome CB. You see, most men I know have sex with women
>> first. They were told or read that if you have sex with women, you will
>> no longer desire to consider having sex with men. Sex with women will
>> kill your desire for sex with men in other words. Sadly, after sex with
>> many women, the men still haven't gotten rid of their thoughts of sex
>> with men, even though they have never had sex with men.
>
>Homosexual behavior (in my personal opinion) is conditioning which becomes
>familiar with practice. Once homo sex is practiced repetitively, sexual
>relationships with chicks becomes dysfunctional and avoided. It is unnatural
>which science proves with data as to the spread of STDs, HIV and AIDS.
>Sorry, reality sucks.
Your opinion is noted, and discarded.
Shrug.
CB
Homosexuals are considered 'enlightened' for their 'rebellion' of natural
affection. Democrats (Liberals) idolize them because the nature of
homosexuality is anti-morality. We can have morality interfer in the
Progressive nature of Liberalism.
Liberalism means never having to be morally responsible for ones own
behavior. The very reason homos are charished within the DNC
>
> Gunner
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Gunner
>>>
>>> "First Law of Leftist Debate
>>> The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
>>> that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
>>> more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
>>> losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
>>> homophobe approaches infinity.
>>>
>>> This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
>>> race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
>>> the subject." Grey Ghost
>
>
> "First Law of Leftist Debate
> The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
> that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
> more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
> losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
> homophobe approaches infinity.
Bingo
Liberalism is the rebellion of God's authority into the chaos religion of
moral relative equality
>
> This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
> race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
> the subject." Grey Ghost
Another problem Democrats have is with their founding Abortion tenant which
in their demented world is absent of morality. Without morality, Abortion
becomes the Solution for the 'unfit'. Eugenics started under Hitler and
Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood's Racist Founder.
The more Liberals Progress, the more 'change' remains in its roots of Nazism
Liberal DimocRAT Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood's Racist Founder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEja-1emRic
It gets good @ 4:20 in
CB
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 04:20:14 GMT, anonymous <anon...@anonymous.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I dont hate gays. Shrug..why would I? I also dont hate people with
>>> clubbed feet, color blindness and so forth and so on.
>>>
>>> >Homosexuality isn't the result of a birth defect else it could be
>>> >detected and the pregnancy aborted.
>>>
>>> Now then you will be providing cites and whatnot to back up this claim
>>> of yours, correct?
>>>
>>Well, I have a difficulty when someone uses a pronoun becaues I don't
>>know what the pronoun is referring to.
>>
>>There is no suggestion that has ever been made that homosexuality is a
>>birth defect.
>>Some people think it may be genetic and environmental or a combination
>>of both.
>
> If its genetic..its obviously a birth defect. It not like being gay has
> any cultural survival benefit. A third Sex has nothing to do with the
> proliferation of the species.
>
> And at aprox 10% of the population....or slightly less...it is well
> within the range factor for a birth defect.
>
> Are all gays...gay? Nope. Some are bi, some are not. Its a range from bi
> to straight gay. Shrug.
Kissing cousin to Pedophilia
>
> But its hardly "normal" biologically, and it seldom is passed down from
> one parent to another, although it can be passed down. Im aware of
> several families that tend to have far far more gay males and females
> than most. Most of course being few gays in a straight family.
Sounds like it could be the environment they be raised'd in. Generational
poverty instills ignorance or is it the other way around? Liberal DimocRAT
Politicians have breed their base voter by instilling into the ignorant the
entitlement gene.
>
> So Id tend to believe that its a birth defect..and much literature also
> indicates that belief is becoming more
> "popular".
Literature is opinion, data is usually (AlGore'a'fication is the exception)
factual and the pie chart I posted tells the tale on homosexuality behavior
and the spread of HIV/AIDS.
I find it hypocritical that homos claim they're a victim of natural,
inherent urges when disease is disproportionately spread through the
behavior of homo sex. If nature is morally neutral, why would homo study
data be so brutally poignant in proving homo sex as the quickest way to the
grave for men who practice it?
>
> So one simply doesnt hold being gay against one...shrug..why bother? It
> would be like cursing someone for a club foot or webbed fingers.
What are the health consequences of being left handed with a clubfoot?
--
CB
"There are a whole lot of religious people in America, including the
majority of Democrats. When we abandon the field of religious discourse --
when we ignore the debate about what it means to be a good Christian or
Muslim or Jew; when we discuss religion only in the negative sense of where
or how it should not be practiced, rather than in the positive sense of what
it tells us about our obligations toward one another; when we shy away from
religious venues and religious broadcasts because we assume that we will be
unwelcome -- others will fill the vacuum. And those who do are likely to be
those with the most insular views of faith, or who cynically use religion to
justify partisan ends"
--Barack Obama
CB
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:13:42 -0500, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> That is awesome CB. You see, most men I know have sex with women
>>> first. They were told or read that if you have sex with women, you will
>>> no longer desire to consider having sex with men. Sex with women will
>>> kill your desire for sex with men in other words. Sadly, after sex with
>>> many women, the men still haven't gotten rid of their thoughts of sex
>>> with men, even though they have never had sex with men.
>>
>>Homosexual behavior (in my personal opinion) is conditioning which becomes
>>familiar with practice. Once homo sex is practiced repetitively, sexual
>>relationships with chicks becomes dysfunctional and avoided. It is
>>unnatural
>>which science proves with data as to the spread of STDs, HIV and AIDS.
>>Sorry, reality sucks.
>
>
> Your opinion is noted, and discarded.
Of course it is...just as "the band plays on"
CB
Homosexuals are considered 'enlightened' for their 'rebellion' of natural
affection. Democrats (Liberals) idolize them because the nature of
homosexuality is anti-morality. We can't have morality interfer in the
anonymous
Enlightened and rebellious as you are, CB, it would appear you are in no
position to speak for homoesxuals. Homosexuals express their affection
in the same way heterosexuals do, allbeit sometimes with a little more
passion. Well, once the world gives homosexuals the right to marry,
then boys and men can date other guys without fear of scorn from society
because it is a legal option in the country.
Laws are always behind the times. Look how long it took women to get
the right to vote, get an education, get good employment and pension and
divorce rights. Actually, homosexuals in spite of having few if any
legal rights, can live a very moral life because they can't get married,
they don't have to get divorced so they can move out
within minutes without losing a penny.
anonymous
removes the responsibility of the creation of the homosexual by two
heterosexuals.
> Literature is opinion, data is usually (AlGore'a'fication is the exception)
> factual and the pie chart I posted tells the tale on homosexuality behavior
> and the spread of HIV/AIDS.
I love the word "tale". Children are raised on tales everyday.
>
> I find it hypocritical that homos claim they're a victim of natural,
> inherent urges when disease is disproportionately spread through the
> behavior of homo sex.
Well, religous people have sinned if they have sex for any purpose other
than procreation. Homosexuals have sex because they can and they want
to. Heterosexual men have sex with their wife says so, obviously it is
less often. How many women make lunches for their family members, cook
breakfast, do the laundry, buy groceries, do the housework, feed and
wait on the family, goes to work outside the home and then comes home
and wants to have sex for an hour while the laundry is piling up.
If nature is morally neutral, why would homo study
> data be so brutally poignant in proving homo sex as the quickest way to the
> grave for men who practice it?
The most awesome part of the equation, is that homoexuals care made by
heterosexuals at a rate that is so high that even will a very low
survival rate, the world is full of an overabundance of homoesexuals.
anonymous
The neat thing about abortion is that the likelihood of a heterosexual
child being aborted is significantly much, much larger with every
abortion. It takes a woman 9 abortions before she aborts a homosexual
offspring.
anonymous
>
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:13:42 -0500, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
> >>
> >> That is awesome CB. You see, most men I know have sex with women
> >> first. They were told or read that if you have sex with women, you will
> >> no longer desire to consider having sex with men. Sex with women will
> >> kill your desire for sex with men in other words. Sadly, after sex with
> >> many women, the men still haven't gotten rid of their thoughts of sex
> >> with men, even though they have never had sex with men.
> >
> >Homosexual behavior (in my personal opinion) is conditioning which becomes
> >familiar with practice.
CB, it would be rare for me to disagree with such an enlightened person,
but the Catholic church is perhaps, allbetit sadly, the best example to
proof your opinion is wrong. Many a young man took a penis in his butt
night after night, day after day, year after year, in residential
schools in Canada and in orphanages in the rest of the world, and
perhaps on the floor of the alter, (alter boys) and none of them become
homosexuals. They were either homosexuals whose natural deveopment was
prematurely arrested or they were heterosexual boys who never became
homosexual despite a nightly sore butt lasting years from years of
sexual abuse. So practice doesn't a homosexual make.
> Once homo sex is practiced repetitively, sexual
> >relationships with chicks becomes dysfunctional and avoided.
There is no question that heterosexual men never recover fully
psychologically from having a penis penentrate thier anus by another
male. That is why it is so important that sexual abuse be reported and
prosecuted. Heterosexual men who have been penetrated anally are as
screwed up for life as any woman who is raped or sexually assaulted.
These people remain maladjusted for life.
> It is unnatural
> >which science proves with data as to the spread of STDs, HIV and AIDS.
> >Sorry, reality sucks.
Sexually transmitted diseases only occurs if one of the parties to the
sex is infected.
It doesn't matter whether one is het, homo or bi, man or a woman, old or
young.
anonymous
No one woman has that much press! The medical profession around the
world were saying for years AIDS is a homosexual disease. And as others
might say, why spend a penny trying to save the lives of homosexuals.
Now we have a global problem with AIDS regardless of sexual orientation.
anonymous
There is no equality between a man and women within a marriage.
Culturally around that world that isn't possible and it doesn't happen.
There is total equality between two men and two women married. There is
equality on all levels including legally in Canada.
I am afraid to understand your statement, I will need you to expand it
so I can be sure I understand the phrase "morally equate marriage
between a man/woman to man/man. Can you give me one or perhaps a few
examples or reasons why you believe the two kinds of legal marriages
that exist in Canada for example and many not necessarily exist in all
other countries is morally different. Now, if you are bringing religion
into the equation, you can stop, because religion is a private matter
where people pay a person, a pastor, to tell them how to live their life
and what the people should believe. Religion is a private matter.
>
> I can live with fact homosexual relationships exist. It's a free world.
> Unions are legally binding and recognized by the courts. I support
> homosexual rights but draw the line at redefining the definition of
> "marriage".
>
Ah, CB, but you see, I write as a Canadian, and you may write as
somebody from somewhere else with different laws. In Canada for many
years homosexuals and heterosexuals are listed as people who can get
married, divorced, and are bound by the same laws, regarding estate,
healthcare, spousal rights, etc. They are equal on all levels under the
law and within society. Of course, religion being a private
organization where people pay money to belong, relgions are entitled
tell its congregation they are not allowed to marry a person who doesn't
convert to their religion or who for some reason isn't in good standing
with their religion like being disowned by Jahova Witness for people who
have blood tranfusions.
Homosexuality is not a religous matter except in the context that people
of most relgions who pay money to the pastor for guidance believe that
homosexuality doesn't belong in their religion or church, and that is,
of course, absolutely correct. YOu pay money and you can beleive
whatever you like but only with the confines of that very private
religion does it apply or have any weight.
anonymous
Well, there are no risks for men and never have been.
There are consequences for women because they could get pregnant, be a
used woman by not being a virgin, not know they have a std that will
likely cause cancer later and or case stirility now or later, have
difficulty finding work being pregnant and no husband or trying to work
being pregnant.
> Women
> require courtship and understanding.
Courtship and understanding are polite words to getting to know the
person sufficient well in terms of security that will satisfy the
particular women in question regarding her financial security, fidelity
security, and sexual security as meets her needs, for example the guy is
willing and able to produce offspring as she so desires. Women can get
sex at the snap of a finger entirely free for even politely charging for
it in sbstract ways like, take me to Paris, buy me a fur coat.
Heterosexual men pay loads of money just for a mere chance at obtaining
sex occasionally leaving aside prostituion which universally available
globally.
> Men, (me fer sure) tend to separate
> emotion from sex. Although now that I'm committed in marriage I'm more into
> the emotional thing, a romantic. Back in the day where I was Adonis I
> considered my self as Don Juan rather than Casanova. Do you know the
> difference and which be the fool of Hell 'is' and why?
Without looking up the terms I think a Don Juan is someone who thinks he
is a good lover in terms of his performance and a Casanova is someone
who believes or takes pride in sweeping women off their feet
romantically. Both are fools because any woman can get the best sex
anytime without strings attached and without a moment's notice. It is
the money, security, monogamy and children, that women try to obtain as
all one package. You will notice, I left out sex. Women don't care
about sex because they get it anytime anyplace inside or outside of
marriage.
>
> >
> > Homosexuals are a different culture. Ironically, homosexuals have to
> > wait from the age of about 14 or 16 until they are legally allowed to
> > have homosexual sex. But at the risk of being disowned or killed or
> > other horrible things happening to them, the usually wait until they
> > leave their hometown, go to work or obtain a higher education, but the
> > wait. But then at the age of 19, 20, 21, homosexuals life the free life
> > of two consenting equal adults. While heterosexuals are bound by
> > culture, religion, family pressures, and expectations of society,
> > homosexuals have freedom outside mostly because they are rejected and
> > disowned by the world around them.
>
> A sign that it's wrong if there ever was.
Well, if you are a religous person, then you might belief that, but as a
doctor friend of mine once said to his sister regardling homoseuxality,
(sex), don't you think it is a little unfair that you can have sex and
you are saying I can't.
Lots of people think lots of things are wrong. Some people believe
women should not be able to have an abortion. Some people believe that
men and women should not be alble to divorce. They have that right of
that belief, but that is a private belief they they hold privately and
has nothing to do with other people.
>
> People instinctively know it's wrong, the very reason why they're treated as
> you describe.
>
Well, there is no issue with people believing specifically that
homosexuality is wrong or they treat homosexuals badly, because that
creates the society we live in. Ironically, the only people I know who
complain about life are heteroseuals, particularlly women but not
limited thereto. Just becuase some some or even many people
in society think something bad or wrong doesn't necessarily make it so.
Since the beginning of time women were prohibited from voting, getting
an education or getting a divorce. Many people even today believe some
of the rights of women are wrong. I say women should have the right to
be a priest. Some would disagree.
The other awesome thing is that these happy homosexuals living a good
life are created by heterosexuals. It doesn't get better than that.
> Society has a primordial understanding that homosexuality is wrong.
> America's moral athority has been weakened by progressive Liberalism and
> will not stop until we're all in the gutter.
Well, in Canada homosexuals are equal and nobody is complaining in
society about its downfall.
>
> So instead of life being confining,
> > it is free. Instead of complaining about their spouse, their job, their
> > life, they enjoy their life, their job, their freedom as never before in
> > their life.
>
> Cosmo contemorary materialism?
>
> >
> > There is no magic in the life of a heteroseuxal. It is a very tough,
> > difficult trying life of a million challenges daily.
>
> Such a victim
>
> It is not how
> > books and movies describe or portray it. It is not how parents or
> > society describes it. I guess you could best describe it like how the
> > world describes war. It is an adveture to see the world, be a hero and
> > come back home a hero. War, of course, is a journey of horror that if
> > youth knew, would not sign up to go to war.
>
> Affection can be disciplined to remain natural but one must be as committed
> as one is too keeping it zipped, controlled, covered and studious enough too
> graduate college. Any diversions can lead to disaster.
>
Oh, you are so right, CB, but most of the diversion in college is not
sex as much as it is alcohol - perhaps used to try to improve their
chances of sex.
And even more funny is heterosexual porn which, of course, free 24 hours
a day where the stick penis in every hole and squirt on the woman's face
treating her like a piece of meat and porn is globally available for
everyone regardless of age as long as you can type into google "free
porn videos" be you a young child or a man of 100. Where are the
pastors, where is the government? Where is society?
And again, religious people are bound by no sex before marriage so that
covers sex in college. Religous people aren't allowed to have
homosexual sex so that covers any distractions they might have.
>
> Young men describe war
> > quitely differently after they have served, if they speak of it at all,
> > in the same way that men and women speak of marriage, if they speak of
> > it at all, after marriage of many years, or after a divorce.
>
> It's all about conditioning. People either make the most of it, striving to
> provide a better life for their 'family' or become complacent, selfish and
> bitter.
>
Well, most men who go to war are single and young with no family. And
one only need to ask the spouse of any divorced person, (divorce 45
percent of all marriages) and they will describe their spouse in most
cases as complacent, selfish and bitter.
> >
> > Pastors don't speak of marriage. They speak of sin, sins of
> > homosexuality, sins of adultery. They don't speak of what to do if the
> > partner says no to sex after they have given their spouse their paycheck
> > and paid the mortgage each month and feed the children and the wife.
>
> Life is so unfay'uh
No, not at all, CB, life is very fair because we live in a democracy.
We can choose the life we want to live and the way we want to live it.
I have only lived 22,000 days so far and I wouldn't trade an afternoon
for those that I have had.
>
> The key is romance
Well, romance is different things to different people. But yes, CB, you
are correct and that is why it is said over and over again that
heterosexuals who know homosexuals who are in love exhibit care byond
the levels most often seen in heterosexual relationships.
In simple terms heterosexuals are given the world and like all people
given something for free they take it for granted and to a degree
probably waste it. Homosexuals have to fight to live in an outwardly
hostile society and finding love and romance in the same way
heterosexuals do and now with the added advantage of tax and spousal and
equality of marriage rights, homosexuals have a hightened appreciation
of romance and love as never before and as not seen or appreciated by
heterosexuals generally.
>
anonymous
CB
> Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:13:42 -0500, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>
>> >> That is awesome CB. You see, most men I know have sex with women
>> >> first. They were told or read that if you have sex with women, you
>> >> will
>> >> no longer desire to consider having sex with men. Sex with women will
>> >> kill your desire for sex with men in other words. Sadly, after sex
>> >> with
>> >> many women, the men still haven't gotten rid of their thoughts of sex
>> >> with men, even though they have never had sex with men.
>> >
>> >Homosexual behavior (in my personal opinion) is conditioning which
>> >becomes
>> >familiar with practice.
>
> CB, it would be rare for me to disagree with such an enlightened person,
> but the Catholic church is perhaps, allbetit sadly, the best example to
> proof your opinion is wrong. Many a young man took a penis in his butt
> night after night, day after day, year after year, in residential
> schools in Canada and in orphanages in the rest of the world, and
> perhaps on the floor of the alter, (alter boys) and none of them become
> homosexuals. They were either homosexuals whose natural deveopment was
> prematurely arrested or they were heterosexual boys who never became
> homosexual despite a nightly sore butt lasting years from years of
> sexual abuse. So practice doesn't a homosexual make.
Prisoners who pack the booty revert back to heterosexual behavior too once
released into the real world.
In the homo's world there is emotional support, in the hetero world there is
discouragement for homos trying to get out, so too speak. Homos feel safer
in their own 'familiar' sub-culture.
>
>> Once homo sex is practiced repetitively, sexual
>> >relationships with chicks becomes dysfunctional and avoided.
>
> There is no question that heterosexual men never recover fully
> psychologically from having a penis penentrate thier anus by another
> male. That is why it is so important that sexual abuse be reported and
> prosecuted. Heterosexual men who have been penetrated anally are as
> screwed up for life as any woman who is raped or sexually assaulted.
> These people remain maladjusted for life.
So sad, there is a way out you know.
>
>> It is unnatural
>> >which science proves with data as to the spread of STDs, HIV and AIDS.
>> >Sorry, reality sucks.
>
> Sexually transmitted diseases only occurs if one of the parties to the
> sex is infected.
> It doesn't matter whether one is het, homo or bi, man or a woman, old or
> young.
It's wide spread in the subculture
--
CB
"There are a whole lot of religious people in America, including the
majority of Democrats. When we abandon the field of religious discourse --
when we ignore the debate about what it means to be a good Christian or
Muslim or Jew; when we discuss religion only in the negative sense of where
or how it should not be practiced, rather than in the positive sense of what
it tells us about our obligations toward one another; when we shy away from
religious venues and religious broadcasts because we assume that we will be
unwelcome -- others will fill the vacuum. And those who do are likely to be
those with the most insular views of faith, or who cynically use religion to
justify partisan ends"
--Barack Obama
CB
I'll save you from the moral lecture then.
Gunner Asch
>
>"Gunner Asch" <gun...@lightspeed.net> wrote in message
>news:vbk1j55b8t7l6hgec...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:13:42 -0500, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> That is awesome CB. You see, most men I know have sex with women
>>>> first. They were told or read that if you have sex with women, you will
>>>> no longer desire to consider having sex with men. Sex with women will
>>>> kill your desire for sex with men in other words. Sadly, after sex with
>>>> many women, the men still haven't gotten rid of their thoughts of sex
>>>> with men, even though they have never had sex with men.
>>>
>>>Homosexual behavior (in my personal opinion) is conditioning which becomes
>>>familiar with practice. Once homo sex is practiced repetitively, sexual
>>>relationships with chicks becomes dysfunctional and avoided. It is
>>>unnatural
>>>which science proves with data as to the spread of STDs, HIV and AIDS.
>>>Sorry, reality sucks.
>>
>>
>> Your opinion is noted, and discarded.
>
>Of course it is...just as "the band plays on"
An interesting movie.
Unfortunately..your hatred for gays appears to be the result of a latent
homosexual component you are trying to push back into the deepest
regions of your brain. Your posts continually clue the informed reader
to this fact.
Now this is rather normal for people such as yourself. The angst must
be terrible. Its caused you to lie, misinform, and post buffoonery as
"truth" .."in your opinion"
Is there some reason anyone should continue to read the mixed up drivel
you keep postintg...the result of your internal and continuing issues?
Gunner Asch
>>
>> In many places and cultures..Indeed you are correct. In the US and
>> most..most of the First World...an effeminate male is simply worked
>> with, or worked around. There are a few rural areas, or urban areas
>> where gay effeminate males shouldnt go..but they are quite rare these
>> days..and oddly enough..generally Democrat areas. Few Conservatives
>> give much of a shit about a persons gender preference, as long as they
>> obey the law, do their part for society etc etc.
>
>Homosexuals are considered 'enlightened' for their 'rebellion' of natural
>affection. Democrats (Liberals) idolize them because the nature of
>homosexuality is anti-morality. We can have morality interfer in the
>Progressive nature of Liberalism.
>
>Liberalism means never having to be morally responsible for ones own
>behavior. The very reason homos are charished within the DNC
Wrong again on so many points. Pity.
The reason gays are charished within the DNC..is because they are a
significant voting block. Like blacks. And can be lead down primrose
paths straight into buffoonery.
I take it you are unaware of the growning membership of the Log Cabin
Party, to name a single group?
Gays are becoming aware that the DNC only uses them..abuses them and
then turns them back into the herd when done with them.
Gunner Asch
Actually..wrong again. It should be noted that most Pedophiles are
straight, have families, etc etc. They have a deviant brain that
considers children to be sex objects of some note.
>
>>
>> But its hardly "normal" biologically, and it seldom is passed down from
>> one parent to another, although it can be passed down. Im aware of
>> several families that tend to have far far more gay males and females
>> than most. Most of course being few gays in a straight family.
>
>Sounds like it could be the environment they be raised'd in. Generational
>poverty instills ignorance or is it the other way around? Liberal DimocRAT
>Politicians have breed their base voter by instilling into the ignorant the
>entitlement gene.
Blink blink..entitlement gene? Its called Greed, nothing more.
>
>>
>> So Id tend to believe that its a birth defect..and much literature also
>> indicates that belief is becoming more
>> "popular".
>
>Literature is opinion, data is usually (AlGore'a'fication is the exception)
>factual and the pie chart I posted tells the tale on homosexuality behavior
>and the spread of HIV/AIDS.
>
>I find it hypocritical that homos claim they're a victim of natural,
>inherent urges when disease is disproportionately spread through the
>behavior of homo sex. If nature is morally neutral, why would homo study
>data be so brutally poignant in proving homo sex as the quickest way to the
>grave for men who practice it?
Does it?
>
>>
>> So one simply doesnt hold being gay against one...shrug..why bother? It
>> would be like cursing someone for a club foot or webbed fingers.
>
>What are the health consequences of being left handed with a clubfoot?
It can be fatal in some cases. As can homosexuality. As can
herterosexuality.
Shrug
Gunner Asch
wrote:
And they were able to detect the defect exactly how?
>
>
>
>> Literature is opinion, data is usually (AlGore'a'fication is the exception)
>> factual and the pie chart I posted tells the tale on homosexuality behavior
>> and the spread of HIV/AIDS.
>
>I love the word "tale". Children are raised on tales everyday.
>
>
>>
>> I find it hypocritical that homos claim they're a victim of natural,
>> inherent urges when disease is disproportionately spread through the
>> behavior of homo sex.
>
>Well, religous people have sinned if they have sex for any purpose other
>than procreation. Homosexuals have sex because they can and they want
>to. Heterosexual men have sex with their wife says so, obviously it is
>less often. How many women make lunches for their family members, cook
>breakfast, do the laundry, buy groceries, do the housework, feed and
>wait on the family, goes to work outside the home and then comes home
>and wants to have sex for an hour while the laundry is piling up.
By the time I was 25..Id had sex with over 250 women. I didnt marry
until I was 27. Most of the women I was playing with, wanted to
play..nothing more, nothing less.
>
>
>
>If nature is morally neutral, why would homo study
>> data be so brutally poignant in proving homo sex as the quickest way to the
>> grave for men who practice it?
>
>The most awesome part of the equation, is that homoexuals care made by
>heterosexuals at a rate that is so high that even will a very low
>survival rate, the world is full of an overabundance of homoesexuals.
Cites?
>
>>
>> >
>> > So one simply doesnt hold being gay against one...shrug..why bother? It
>> > would be like cursing someone for a club foot or webbed fingers.
>>
>> What are the health consequences of being left handed with a clubfoot?
>> --
>> CB
>> "There are a whole lot of religious people in America, including the
>> majority of Democrats. When we abandon the field of religious discourse --
>> when we ignore the debate about what it means to be a good Christian or
>> Muslim or Jew; when we discuss religion only in the negative sense of where
>> or how it should not be practiced, rather than in the positive sense of what
>> it tells us about our obligations toward one another; when we shy away from
>> religious venues and religious broadcasts because we assume that we will be
>> unwelcome -- others will fill the vacuum. And those who do are likely to be
>> those with the most insular views of faith, or who cynically use religion to
>> justify partisan ends"
>> --Barack Obama
CB
Nice try but I've never been so secure in my masculinity as I am today.
CB
Thank you President Bush for all the aid sent to ravaged Africa.
> Now we have a global problem with AIDS regardless of sexual orientation.
It goes to show that all the education/enlightenment doesn't help when weak
character is unable to self discipline lust, hormonal rage, sin.
CB
Homosexuals have shorter life spans, you know that. It's not because of
society rejects them, it's because the lifestyle is unhealthy.
>>
>>>
>>> So one simply doesnt hold being gay against one...shrug..why bother? It
>>> would be like cursing someone for a club foot or webbed fingers.
>>
>>What are the health consequences of being left handed with a clubfoot?
>
> It can be fatal in some cases. As can homosexuality. As can
> herterosexuality.
And the Band Played On?
Gunner Asch
Masculinity? I wasnt discussing your lack of or surplus of masculinity.
Hummm..you seem to think that all gays are wimps who trot around in
loafers and lisp.
Ex Army Ranger buddy of mine...lets call him Joe Bob...black guy..about
6' 7", now about 275lbs. Martial artist..5th Dan, about to retire as a
police detective. Lots of busts..lots of busted bad guys who decided to
resist.
Queer as a 3 dollar bill. Has been all of his life. Great Ranger,
wonderful killer. We saved each others lives several times. We'd go
R&R..Id get a momma san..he would get a poppa san.
Shrug...Im starting to seriously think you are a latent gay guy who is
hiding in the closet. And your posts seem to back this up.
Not that Ive got any problem with you being gay. Shrug...I do however
have a problem with your world view and hatred for those you are trying
to hide from.
Pity
Gunner Asch
>>>I find it hypocritical that homos claim they're a victim of natural,
>>>inherent urges when disease is disproportionately spread through the
>>>behavior of homo sex. If nature is morally neutral, why would homo study
>>>data be so brutally poignant in proving homo sex as the quickest way to
>>>the
>>>grave for men who practice it?
>>
>> Does it?
>
>Homosexuals have shorter life spans, you know that. It's not because of
>society rejects them, it's because the lifestyle is unhealthy.
Got cites? Or is this just another of your "opinions"?
RichTravsky
> "RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
> > CB wrote:
> >> "RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
> >> > anonymous wrote:
> >> >> CB wrote:
> >> >> > "anonymous" <anon...@anonymous.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > The spread of aids has nothing to do with pie charts.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ...and The Band Played On
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >> What, no takers? So the Ban does play on in ignoring
> >> >> > >> Homosexuality
> >> >> > >> and the fact that HIV/AIDS is spread through homosexual behavior
> >> >> > >> and
> >> >> > >> packing fudge within the Black community.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > AIDS/HIV is spread by anyone who has unprotected sex with just one
> >> >> > > or
> >> >> > > more partners.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Like homosexual males who do not form long lasting relationships but
> >> >> > have
> >> >> > lots of 'hook-ups'
> >> >>
> >> >> Well, CB, nice opening remark but you left out the content. When
> >> >> young
> >> >> boys can't bring a boyfriend home but his brother can bring a
> >> >> girlfriend
> >> >> home to meet the family, what are the kid's chances of learning and
> >> >> growing about how to form a loving relationship with anyone when they
> >> >> themselves are the most hated people on the planet across all
> >> >> cultures,
> >> >> races, religions and ethnic groupings.
> >> >>
> >> >> And CB, you need to go to Craig's list on the internet to see what
> >> >> your
> >> >> brother and sister heterosexuals are doing posting and meeting for sex
> >> >> on a daily basis 7 days a week, not just for a saturday night piece of
> >> >> tail.
> >> >>
> >> >> And, CB, you need to be reminded that 45 cent of all marriages end in
> >> >> divorce and probably another 24 percent rely on affairs and
> >> >> paid-for-sex
> >> >> to get them through life.
> >> >> So don't try to talk about the virtues of heterosexual life unless you
> >> >> state all the facts and give examples. Homosexuals know how good
> >> >> homosexual life is in spite of being the most hated people on the
> >> >> planet. Homosexuals also know how good heterosexual life is because
> >> >> no,
> >> >> I repeat no heterosexual will talk or post about how good heterosexual
> >> >> life is. All heterosexual men complain their wife won't give them
> >> >> head
> >> >> or take it up the butt. All het porn is about putting a penis in a
> >> >> woman's mouth, vagina and butt and then withdrawing to squirt juice in
> >> >> her eyes, mouth and on her face while shoving her around like she is a
> >> >> piece of meat and not a beautiful loving human being.
> >> >>
> >> >> CB, it looks like you have research and work to do to keep your posts
> >> >> accurate. But keep posting because I love to fill in the blanks.
> >> >
> >> > CB's idea of research is Limdoper et al.
> >>
> >> Your idea of research is anal
> >
> > Says the guy who approves of showering with little boys.
> >
> >> > Oh, and don't confuse him with the facts.
> >>
> >> The fact is, AIDS is a preventable desease butt yet homos as a whole just
> >> don't care, thus the term, 'gift giving'
> >
> > Al stds are preventable.
>
> Not for homos according to the 'facts'.
For anyone. Just don't have sex. Idiot.
>
> a.. Liberals condone satanism, they also started the Swedish black metal
> movement
> a.. Liberals also Hate the Baby Jesus and have no respect or tolerance for
> Juedeo Christian religions. They do, however love Islam.
> a.. liberals are the ones who killed Jesus.
> a.. Liberals also make false versions of the Holy Bible.
> a.. Liberals support abortion/murder.
> a.. Liberals exist outside Creation, as a part of an insipid scheme of the
> devil.
> a.. Terro-liberal communist non-American is the offical name for liberals.
> However, most people just call them liberals for short.
> a.. Liberals are atheists/God hateists or agnostics. Agnostics are just
> confused about the whole God idea. They are just as evil as atheists.
> a.. Liberals watch Comedy Central only to make fun of Real Americans,
> because they suffer from low self-esteem and necrophiliac urges. It was only
> when our Dear Leader interfered that The Colbert Report joined the
> god-hating network to give Liberals a more balanced view.
> a.. http://wikiality.wikia.com/Liberals
Hilarious satire! Thanks!
RichTravsky
> "anonymous" <anon...@anonymous.com> wrote in message
> > CB wrote:
> >> "RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
> >> > CB wrote:
> >> >> "RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > anonymous wrote:
> >> >> >> CB wrote:
> >> >> >> > "anonymous" <anon...@anonymous.com> wrote in message
> > But CB, if you waited for the women who say yes, put your sexual
> > attraction to men on the shelf, it is unclear why you want to visit
> > alt.politics.homosexuality. It would seem like satisfying your needs,
> > your wife's needs, your children's and grandchildren's wishes would keep
> > you a very busy man and a man not remotely interested in homosexuals or
> > the politics of homosexuality. It is awesome that you are so selfless
> > as to give your best to this news groups and we all here appreciate your
> > generous contribution even if most of us don't always agree with you.
>
> I'm getting the fact out for the band to ignore them and just play on.
>
> One thing you said is dead on. Homosexuals will have sex no matter what the
Heterosexuals will have sex no matter what.
> dangers are. It's the same attitude that unwed mothers have that DemocRATs
like republiRAT Sarah Bailin' and her slut daughter?
> have used in their Eugenics program to breed the perfect voter, ignorant,
> dependant and loyal.
Dems have a eugenics program to ignorant, dependant and loyal
voters?
THEY'RE BREEDING REPUBLICONS?
hahahhahahahah
RichTravsky
> "RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
> > CB wrote:
> >> > "Sid9" <si...@belsouth.net> wrote in message
> >> >> "PseudoCyAntz" <nume...@IntelligenceDecline.us> wrote in message
> >> >>> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in
> >> >>>> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>>> http://www.avert.org/usa-statistics.htm
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Be sure to deny the second pie chart exists in reality
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> and the fact that HIV/AIDS is spread through homosexual behavior
> >> >>>>> and
> >> >>>>> packing fudge within the Black community.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> HIV/AIDS the most. With all the education on HIV and how it's spread
> >> >>>> one would come to the conclusion homos are 'gift giving' big time.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> From the very same website:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> At the end of 2008,
> >> >>> women accounted for 50%
> >> >>> of all adults living with HIV worldwide
> >> >>>
> >> >>> <http://www.avert.org/worldstats.htm>
> >> >>
> >> >> CB is hung up on homosexuality very likely because he has serious
> >> >> doubts
> >> >> about his manhood
> >> >
> >> > I'll admit as a teen was tempted in hormonal rage, I knew giving into
> >> > lust
> >> > would be a sin, inappropriate to the natual affection of a chick and
> >> > dude.
> >> > I was strong due to the moral authority of knowing right from wrong.
> >> >
> >> > How about you Sid, did you give in too sucking cock? Did you give in to
> >> > sin?
> >>
> >> Your non-answer says it all. I axed Gary and Richey the same question and
> >> they too said nothing. Very telling.
> >
> > Homo sex is a lame substitute for the real thing between chicks and
> > dudes - CB,
> > confessing his gay sex
>
> You're as lame as 'it' cumz
CB doesn't deny his gay sexcapades...
> >> Someone who's in the 96% majority of natural effection would answer, "no
> >> they're not a homo"
>
> Butt not you, you got your 'pride'
RichTravsky
> >> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:54:38 GMT, anonymous <anon...@anonymous.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> The illusion that the homosexual lifestyle is a normal way of living
> >> >> has
> >> >> been successfully propagated by promoting a "victim" image for
> >> >> homosexual
> >> >> persons, and by the pseudo-science alleging a 'gay" gene.
> >> >>
> >> >Homosexuals are the most hated people on the planet.
> >>
> >> Odd...I thought it was well known that Leftwingers, Liberal Democrats,
> >> Communists, child molesters, rapists, Somalian war lords, people who
> >> step on puppies, etc etc were the most hated people on the planet
> >>
> > No, not so at all. No, because these people are thought to have mental
> > problems wherease homosexuals are thought to be homosexuals by choice.
> > Ever heard of a mother, father or brother who was excited to be related
> > to a homosexual? That doesn't mean homosexuals don't have an awesome
> > life, they do.
>
> A shallow, Contemporary Cosmo life, void of meaning
As opposed to the shallow hypocrital life of a con-servative?
> >> Gays are way way way down the list..and then only hated by those who do
> >> not understand that their gayness is the result of a birth defect, not
> >> something intentional.
> >
> > If you could list one person who doesn't hate homosexuals, I would be
> > pleased.
> > Homosexuality isn't the result of a birth defect else it could be
> > detected and the pregnancy aborted.
>
> It's a familiar behavior that starts out as lust/hormonal rage. Most people
> wait for a willing partner of the opposite sex, a few just can't wait and
> because of weakness of character give in to the first person willing
Lie. Prove it ->
RichTravsky
>
> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 12:50:37 GMT, anonymous <anon...@anonymous.com>
> wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Communists, child molesters, rapists, Somalian war lords, people who
> >> step on puppies, etc etc were the most hated people on the planet
> >>
> >No, not so at all. No, because these people are thought to have mental
> >problems wherease homosexuals are thought to be homosexuals by choice.
> >Ever heard of a mother, father or brother who was excited to be related
> >to a homosexual? That doesn't mean homosexuals don't have an awesome
> >life, they do.
>
> their knowledge..were born that way. And current research appears to
> back up that factoid.
>
> birth defect?
How is it a defect?
RichTravsky
> >>
> >>> pleased.
> >>> Homosexuality isn't the result of a birth defect else it could be
> >>> detected and the pregnancy aborted.
> >>
> >>It's a familiar behavior that starts out as lust/hormonal rage. Most
> >>people
> >>wait for a willing partner of the opposite sex, a few just can't wait and
> >>because of weakness of character give in to the first person willing
> >
> > medical and mental health to back up the claim that gays are made, not
> > born?
> >
> > It will be interesting reading. Thank you.
>
> I know from from experience, as you do too.
Why do yhou project your own experiences on others?
RichTravsky
> >>>>> If you could list one person who doesn't hate homosexuals, I would be
> >>>>> pleased.
> >>>>> Homosexuality isn't the result of a birth defect else it could be
> >>>>> detected and the pregnancy aborted.
> >>>>
> >>>>It's a familiar behavior that starts out as lust/hormonal rage. Most
> >>>>people
> >>>>wait for a willing partner of the opposite sex, a few just can't wait
> >>>>and
> >>>>because of weakness of character give in to the first person willing
> >>>
> >>> Then you too will be providing valid cites from leading sources of
> >>> medical and mental health to back up the claim that gays are made, not
> >>> born?
> >>>
> >>> It will be interesting reading. Thank you.
> >>
> >>I know from from experience, as you do too.
> >
> >>
> >>knowing
> >>it was and still 'is' morally wrong compelled me to be to resist and
> >>discipline my self to wait for the right (chick) to come along.
> >>
> > claims and world view.
> >
> > Hummm...are you claiming that there is none? Or are you claiming that
> > your personal experience as a kid with a stiff dick and no place to put
> > it, trumps many many billions of manhours of scientific research and
> > investigation?
>
> We already know what Libs do with data when political agendas mix with
> grants
> > Why wont you provide citations?
>
> You wouldn't eccept them because of the messanger
You mean from a bigot?
RichTravsky
>
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 04:20:14 GMT, anonymous <anon...@anonymous.com>
> wrote:
> >> I dont hate gays. Shrug..why would I? I also dont hate people with
> >> clubbed feet, color blindness and so forth and so on.
> >>
> >> >detected and the pregnancy aborted.
> >>
> >> of yours, correct?
> >>
> >Well, I have a difficulty when someone uses a pronoun becaues I don't
> >know what the pronoun is referring to.
> >
> >There is no suggestion that has ever been made that homosexuality is a
> >birth defect.
> >Some people think it may be genetic and environmental or a combination
> >of both.
>
> If its genetic..its obviously a birth defect. It not like being gay has
> any cultural survival benefit. A third Sex has nothing to do with the
> proliferation of the species.
So if someone is straight and never marries or doesn't generate kids, there's
no survival benefit?
Didn't you say something about 250 women?
anonymous
usually after the first child, that the child takes priority over
sex............
anonymous
Awesome, CB, so what interests you to come and visit
alt.politics.homosexuality?
RichTravsky
>
> CORRECTION:
>
> Homosexuals are considered 'enlightened' for their 'rebellion' of natural
> affection. Democrats (Liberals) idolize them because the nature of
> Progressive nature of Liberalism.
>
> Liberalism means never having to be morally responsible for ones own
> behavior. The very reason homos are charished within the DNC
This explains all the republicon adulterers and closet gays.
RichTravsky
> "anonymous" <anon...@anonymous.com> wrote in message
> > CB wrote:
> >> "anonymous" <anon...@anonymous.com> wrote in message
> >> >> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 09:58:38 -0500, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> > Homosexuality is not a religous matter except in the context that people
> > of most relgions who pay money to the pastor for guidance believe that
> > homosexuality doesn't belong in their religion or church, and that is,
> > of course, absolutely correct. YOu pay money and you can beleive
> > whatever you like but only with the confines of that very private
> > religion does it apply or have any weight.
>
> I'll save you from the moral lecture then.
A bigot and hypocrite like you is in no position to lecture on morals.
> "There are a whole lot of religious people in America, including the
> majority of Democrats. When we abandon the field of religious discourse --
> when we ignore the debate about what it means to be a good Christian or
> Muslim or Jew; when we discuss religion only in the negative sense of where
> or how it should not be practiced, rather than in the positive sense of what
> it tells us about our obligations toward one another; when we shy away from
> religious venues and religious broadcasts because we assume that we will be
> unwelcome -- others will fill the vacuum. And those who do are likely to be
> those with the most insular views of faith, or who cynically use religion to
> justify partisan ends"
> --Barack Obama
Just like Duhbya did. See David Kuo's book
anonymous
Well, you are usually deal with guys under 25 and homosexual or
heterosexual, they take risks. Sin isn't part of the equation unless
the person is religiousa and then sin in narrowly defined within the
confines of their religion.
anonymous
Well, as almost anyone will tell you, it is never the life span that
counts, it is the quality of life. I guess there are a few homosexuals
killing themselves everday, but on the news I just keep hearing today a
mother jumped off a cliff with her young baby, and there are men and
women killing their children and themselves weekly or more often as one
reads the newspapers.
There is absolutely nothing unhealthy about homosexuality anymore than
there is anything unhealthy about heterosexuality. If you have sex with
any diseased person, you could be in for treatment or shorter life - no
question.
Gunner Asch
There are two sexes, both designed to get together and perform mating
and child producing.
A member of either sex, who is not able to voluntarily, mentally be a
participant, at least in the activities of child producing with a member
of another sex..has to have either a mental defect, or a birth defect.
Since most of my gay friends of both sex have since childhood been
attracted to members of their own sex..it would appear that there is a
mental birth defect that has done its deed and made members of their own
sex desireable, therefore not able to produce children.
Id say that it was in many cases..a metal mixing up of the female/male
mental atributes..a female in a male body, and reverse.
Not that there is anything "wrong" with such a thing..but its obvious
that if the entire species was gay..it would end in a single generation.
Gunner
Gunner Asch
Correct. However..that individual VOLUNTARILY didnt inseminate a member
of the opposite sex, no matter if they found them to be fun sex
partners.
While we have genetic programming..we are able to deal with it.
Well..most of us are.
>Didn't you say something about 250 women?
Indeed. And I quite consiciously made sure that I didnt actually get any
of them pregnant. While I found women to be fun, exciting, sexual and
so forth, I understood that actually getting one or more pregnant at
that time, was not an appropriate thing to do. Something a surprisingly
large number of out minority males are unable to fathom from the looks
of it.
And at no time did I find other males to be sexually desireable, just
females. Shrug. So Im not even bisexual, unfortunately...chuckle...
What was that that Woody Allen said..."being bisexual doubles your
chances of a date on Saturday night".....
Been a lot of lonely Saturday nights in my life...shrug.
Chuckle
CB
ohhhhhhhh...........rigggggttttttt
CB
I forgot
I think It had something to do with the subject header and some dudes claim
homosexual behavior hurt no one, thus "The Band Played On"
CB
"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
It's a guilty conscience that alienates one from grace and salvation, not
partisan politics.
When ever faith in Jesus Christ our savior is mention by Leftist It's always
as an overview, not as witness
CB
"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
It's not a perfect world, nor is life far.
The Difference between the Right and Left is the difference between right
and wrong.
The Left circles the wagon to protect Barney Fwank, Chris Dodd, Charlie
Rangel, Rod Blagoiavich, William Jefferson and the Reparation, social
justice, Black Liberation Theologian/Marxist Obama. The right recognizes
wrong doing and ostracizes them until they quit or are voted out.
Leftists are sociopaths when it comes to morality but yet they'll vote every
time to steal other peoples money in the name of healt'cay.
--
CB
"There are a whole lot of religious people in America, including the
majority of Democrats. When we abandon the field of religious discourse --
when we ignore the debate about what it means to be a good Christian or
Muslim or Jew; when we discuss religion only in the negative sense of where
or how it should not be practiced, rather than in the positive sense of what
it tells us about our obligations toward one another; when we shy away from
religious venues and religious broadcasts because we assume that we will be
unwelcome -- others will fill the vacuum. And those who do are likely to be
those with the most insular views of faith, or who cynically use religion to
justify partisan ends"
--Barack Obama
Morality to Libs is just a tool for the use in making the productive pay
more equally of 'their fair share'
CB
...and "The Pand Played On"