Woman seeks answers...
IN...@pi-user.pi.net
Where is this newsgroup about ? It started out with mad cows, which are not
surrealistic but more like post-modernism. Now I'm completly lost in dada...
Kindred fluxbuxom
In article <NEWTNews.24881...@pi-user.pi.net>, INGE@pi-
user.pi.net writes
>
>
>Where is this newsgroup about ? It started out with mad cows, which are not
>surrealistic but more like post-modernism. Now I'm completly lost in dada...
>
-- Pinnacle Narble Gasper
What do moths get in their wardrobes?
barrett john erickson
In article <NEWTNews.24881...@pi-user.pi.net>, IN...@pi-user.pi.net wrote:
>
>
>Where is this newsgroup about ? It started out with mad cows, which are not
>surrealistic but more like post-modernism. Now I'm completly lost in dada...
>
"Alt.surrealism" has no relevance to surrealist activity (beyond the
occasional discovery of another lost and disapointed explorer).
The banalities daily inflicted upon it's suffering readers by the arrogantly
ignorant, creatively crippled and cross-posting pretenders should be an
embarassment to their authors and an outrage to all others.
The stench clinging to the rotting corpse of "grillo," the mad cow, and the
occasional ghostly abcess of "neu" is evidence of what you have found.
~~barrett
Keith Jenkins
In article <4o7nlj$9...@stratus.skypoint.net>, barrett john erickson
<bar...@skypoint.com> writes
Oh dear, we are grumpy aren't we.
There are, from time to time, some genuine nuggets of surrealist writing
posted here. Sometimes accidentally, sometimes due to a great deal of
thought. Even some of the throw away garbage is good fun.
The fact that there is a lot of other stuff too has more to do with the
nature of Usenet, where nothing is sacred and everything comes and goes
in a day or two.
Seems to me you need to go with the flow a bit old chum.
--
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/ /*\ \
*<<<<--Keith-->>>>*
\ \*/ /
/|\ As we have now been formally introduced
I am dropping the *Jenkins*
in...@pi-user.pi.net
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> From: bar...@skypoint.com (barrett john erickson)
> Newsgroups: alt.surrealism
> Subject: Re: Woman seeks answers...
> Date: Sat, 25 May 96 19:41:16 GMT
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> In article <NEWTNews.24881...@pi-user.pi.net>,
IN...@pi-user.pi.net wrote:
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> >
> >Where is this newsgroup about ? It started out with mad cows, which are not
> >surrealistic but more like post-modernism. Now I'm completly lost in dada...
> >
>
> "Alt.surrealism" has no relevance to surrealist activity (beyond the
> occasional discovery of another lost and disapointed explorer).
>
> The banalities daily inflicted upon it's suffering readers by the arrogantly
> ignorant, creatively crippled and cross-posting pretenders should be an
> embarassment to their authors and an outrage to all others.
>
> The stench clinging to the rotting corpse of "grillo," the mad cow, and the
> occasional ghostly abcess of "neu" is evidence of what you have found.
>
> ~~barrett
>
This means you're disappointed by this newsgroup ? I must say I expected less
crap, but hej what can you do ? It's mostly Americans who are surfing on the
world wide web...
Cheers, peace
Inge
Marc Christopher Williams
In article <NEWTNews.13009...@pi-user.pi.net> ,
in...@pi-user.pi.net writes:
>This means you're disappointed by this newsgroup ? I must say I expected
less
>
>crap, but hej what can you do ? It's mostly Americans who are surfing on
the
>
>world wide web...
And a high proportion of those are Texans to boot!
Mark Ray
> "Alt.surrealism" has no relevance to surrealist activity (beyond the
> occasional discovery of another lost and disapointed explorer).
Alt.* is what we make it, just as the language does not belong to the
lexicographer.
> The banalities daily inflicted upon it's suffering readers by the arrogantly
> ignorant, creatively crippled and cross-posting pretenders should be an
> embarassment to their authors and an outrage to all others.
Cross-posts are irritating, but alt.* is a land of free expression.
> The stench clinging to the rotting corpse of "grillo," the mad cow, and the
> occasional ghostly abcess of "neu" is evidence of what you have found.
Oh, what is the kill button for?
Eugene Darrold
In article <NEWTNews.24881...@pi-user.pi.net>,
IN...@pi-user.pi.net says...
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>
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>Where is this newsgroup about ? It started out with mad cows, which
are not
>surrealistic but more like post-modernism. Now I'm completly lost in
dada...
>
Where about 42 miles east of Ft. Lauderdale (or there about).
You're looking at the map wrong.
Why WON'T you stop & ask for directions?
Eugene Darrold
>
>In article <NEWTNews.24881...@pi-user.pi.net>,
>>
>>
>>Where is this newsgroup about ? It started out with mad cows, which
are not
>>surrealistic but more like post-modernism. Now I'm completly lost in
dada...
>>
>
>occasional discovery of another lost and disapointed explorer).
>
arrogantly
>ignorant, creatively crippled and cross-posting pretenders should be
an
>embarassment to their authors and an outrage to all others.
>
and the
>occasional ghostly abcess of "neu" is evidence of what you have found.
>
Who died & made *you* Dali?
stephen allcroft
In article: <4ojd7f$b...@uruguay.it.earthlink.net>
eldar...@earthlink.com (Eugene Darrold) writes:
> Who died & made *you* Dali?
No, barrett doesn't think he's dali, he thinks he's breton. He has an
ego like dali's for sure, he once accused me on this forum of wanting to
destroy the sacredness of works of art to which i replied.
"of course, just like Marcel Duchamp did with the mona lisa."
He didn't like that.
--
stephen allcroft
in...@pi-user.pi.net
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That explains a hell of a lot. I'm seeing Americans and Texans on a dialy base
at those interesting American talkshows we're getting over here. I was
watching Ricki Lake the other day. Very intelligent I must say.
American finest ??
barrett john erickson
In article <147034...@congress.demon.co.uk>, ste...@congress.demon.co.uk wrote:
>ego like dali's for sure, he once accused me on this forum of wanting to
>destroy the sacredness of works of art to which i replied.
sorry stephen, you've obviously got me confused with someone else, since the
sentiment and motivation you attribute to me is quite foreign to anything
i've posted here. perhaps you're thinking of someone else encountered during
one of the skirmishes i took part in last year with the chenites, the "dn" and
"ac" that is. they (assuming you aren't either one, both, or some portion of
"them") are the only "individuals" i've engaged directly in anything that
might approach an accusatory manner.
[ if you wish to refresh your memory, these posts are at:
http://www.skypoint.com/~barrett/altsur.html and,
http://www.skypoint.com/~barrett/chenwars.html ]
or perhaps it is my on-going (and quite tactful, considering the barage of
bullshit that was flooding the group at the time) "challenge" which you refer
to as an "accusation" directed at you (although i can't remember having any
particular reaction to any of your posts)?:
i quote that challenge in its most aggressive form below for others to judge:
>
>it appears that some members of the net "community" are far more rude
>(and/or far more ignorant of surrealist activities) than originally believed.
> the massive cross-post kudzu has, if anything, spread with all the
>intelligent purpose and meaning of an oil slick.
>
>or perhaps _some_ of you believe a tactful request for simple net courtesy
>justifies an all out imperialist offensive in an effort to assure the entire
>world is forced to suffer your ego(s), no matter how irrelevant to the
>subject of the groups invaded?
>
>i restate my request (and i point out for a couple of people who raised
>objections to the same message last time, that this text neither specifies
>individuals, or gender, but merely states a challenge to all concerned)--
>
>
>
>would _everyone_please_ take the time to assure that your follow-ups to
>this thread are addressed only to the newsgroups you regularly read and
>participate in.
>
>specifically: remove "alt.surrealism" from the list of cross-posted groups,
>unless you are willing to forthrightly face the challenge below (under a
>separate subject line, since many have found the offending threads so
>irrelevant or counter to surrealist activity that they now simply delete them
>unread).
>
>of course, most of us know who's responsible for dumping the majority of
>these threads where they are blatantly out of place, but the perpetrators, in
>their arrogant ignorance, have repeatedly shown themselves unwilling, or
>incapable of directly defending the relevance of their posts (or tactics) to
>specific groups, attempting instead to exploit every such opportunity to
>continue their manipulations without addressing the issues raised.
>
>consequently, an equally intrusive public appeal for the cooperation of more
>considerate net users is unavoidable.
>
>i again state the original challenge for any who would continue to spread
>massive cross-posts, or follow-ups to these threads in "alt.surrealism":
>
>either post _and_defend_ a specific explanation/justification of the relevance
>of these posts to surrealist activity (with an appropriate and recognizable
>subject line), or admit, with your refusal, that they have none, and remove
>"alt.surrealism" from your habitual cross-post lists.
~~barrett
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barrett: <http://www.skypoint.com/~barrett/>
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Aesthetic Automatism: <http://www.skypoint.com/~barrett/aarc/>
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Eugene Darrold
In article <147034...@congress.demon.co.uk>,
ste...@congress.demon.co.uk says...
>
>In article: <4ojd7f$b...@uruguay.it.earthlink.net>
>eldar...@earthlink.com (Eugene Darrold) writes:
>
>> Who died & made *you* Dali?
>
>No, barrett doesn't think he's dali, he thinks he's breton. He has an
to
>destroy the sacredness of works of art to which i replied.
>
>
>He didn't like that.
>
>--
>stephen allcroft
>
As with Zen (I believe), any academic treatment of Surrealism strays
from the spirit of Surrealism itself; iconoclasm and the defiance of
analysis are essential to Surrealism. So though there is no doubt a
clear difference between Surrealism & Dada, any true Surrealist
wouldn't give a shit. I like to think Dali would have been the first
to piss on his own paintings.
The Three Pillars of Surrealism:
1) Don't be boring.
2) Don't take anything seriously, including yourself.
3) Scratch this spot to smell what Connie wore to the prom.
barrett john erickson
In article <4p624k$a...@chile.it.earthlink.net>, eldar...@earthlink.com (Eugene Darrold) wrote:
>In article <147034...@congress.demon.co.uk>,
>ste...@congress.demon.co.uk says...
>...
>>ego like dali's for sure, he once accused me on this forum of wanting
>to
>>destroy the sacredness of works of art to which i replied.
>...
Your own words are sufficient indictment of your shallow view of surrealism,
but at least try to conduct your argument in good faith, and avoid quoting
someone elses false assertions.
As i have replied earlier, stephen appears to have confused me with someone
else, as i have never made any "accus[ations]" against him, or proclaimed the
"sacredness of works of art."
scot...@earthlink.net
eldar...@earthlink.com (Eugene Darrold) wrote:
>The Three Pillars of Surrealism:
>1) Don't be boring.
>2) Don't take anything seriously, including yourself.
>3) Scratch this spot to smell what Connie wore to the prom.
Yes Yes fun fun.
kinda like eating hotdogs at the ballpark while wearing new nike sneakers.
Who knows what will happen??
but there will be pop corn too.
Good Photos for advertising.
Neat video ideas.
All the while
covered by insurance.
what do you want to sell?
Have you ever tried strychnine.
the taste on the fingers is actually quite interesting.
kind of bitter.
it will break down the flicker fusion of daily life
and teach you new ways to smile,
And
I know there are people out there
shaking their heads
who know
exactly what I'm talking about.
But
If I buy a hotdog
from a surrealist
I personally
want to be assured
of the possibly
the artist
might,
for his own private reasons
or
unbeknownst to himself
have
laced the mustard with strychnine
and that
laughter
might
later bring on
convulsions
and bleeding from the mouth.
scot...@earthlink.net
Re: eating strychnine
Strychnine is a poor means of committing suicide.
Eating Strychnine is primarily a body game that is ugly
and without grace.
In my previous post I discussed a use of strychnine.
I am not advocating anyone eat strychnine.
Personally I would have no respect, no pity, and
no real interest in anyone choosing to
eat strychnine.
Saying this does not detract from the internal validly of
the previous post.
People will do what they will do.
For individuals truly interested in mind/ body games that
take the individual to the edge of the envelope, I suggest getting
into shape and learning to rock climb, or becoming involved
in ultra endurance sports. Both will take the mind and body
to places they've not been before. One will bring on
Hallucinations and allow the individual to be touched by the
gods of the ancient hunters.
But people will do what they will do.