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Brandon Freels

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Feb 26, 2003, 5:47:30 PM2/26/03
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Keith, I can't speak for the others you mentioned [see below], but I
am not interested in state communism. I am more interested in
something along the lines of non-state communism, or
anarcho-collectivism. My "agenda" is to free the mind, and to do that
you must free man as well. War won't free anyone, espacially not a
holy war or race war between the white Christians in Washington and
the Muslims in the Middle East. War only secures the power of the war
machine, and those at the top of the power hierarchy --- all enemies
of the surrealist project.


[transcript from http://www.keithwigdorsurrealism.com/phpBB2/index.php]

Brandon
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 9:13 pm Post subject:
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Those aren't points for war, Keith, they're points for speculation,
and speculation doesn't give cause for war. You're also making an
assumption that Saddam has somesort of religious agenda. He is not Bin
Laden, and has no "jihad drive."

Surrealists can NEVER support war, because, as is well known, war is
the health of the state, and the state is one of the main oppressors
of the mind and man. To support a war, to support Bush's colonialism,
his spread of Christian capitalism to other countries via coercive
behavior, is to prove your lack of understanding of the surrealists'
nonconformist, anti-authoritarian, free-spirited, liberatory project.

Sorry, Keith, but this all seems to stem from your inability to grasp
surrealism.

What IS needed is a "surrealist jihad" against patriotism, capitalism,
colonialism, and all other repressive, oppressive, surpressive modes
of thought.



Keith Wigdor/Surrealist
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 9:14 pm Post subject:
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I am Keith Wigdor/Surrealist and BUNNY the WEBSITE ADMINISTRATOR! I
have no alter-ego but when I was little, I always wanted to be
GODZILLA! I created the FORUM and OBVIOUSLY THE FORUM ADMINSTRATOR
NEEDS A USER NAME, SO BUNNY FIT JUST RIGHT



Keith Wigdor/Surrealist
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 9:18 pm Post subject:
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Brandon, You are speaking YOUR OWN OPINION! However, I do let you say
anything you want because I believe in FREEDOM and ALSO SURREALIST
FREEDOM as well. Brandon, By the Way, HOW IS THE SURREALIST MOVEMENT
IN IRAQ, LET ALONE THE MIDDLE EAST? Brandon, You say that I am unable
to grasp and have no Understanding of the Surrealist Project, then
HAVE YOU SUCCESSFULLY OPENED DOORS WITH SURREALISTS OR ANYONE FROM THE
MIDDLE EAST



Brandon
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 9:23 pm Post subject:
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What's your point? There have been surrealist[s] from Islamic
countries.



Keith Wigdor/Surrealist
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 9:41 pm Post subject:
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Brandon, My Point is that You (Portland Surrealist Group) and Evi
Moechel and Pierre Petiot (Paris Surrealist Goup) and Franklin
Rosemont (Chicago USA Surrealist Group) and Barrett John Erickson and
Dale Houstman (Minnesota Surrealist Group) ALL HAVE YOUR AGENDA BASED
ON EMPTY RHETORIC WITH REALLY NO REAL AGENDA! I Honestly would RESPECT
YOU IF YOU PUBLICALLY ADMITTED AN AGENDA FOR COMMUNISM EMBRACING THE
SURREALIST PROJECT, thus Admitting An Alliance with the MARXIST LEFT,
but YOU HAVE NO AGENDA AT ALL, NOR DO YOU PROVIDE ANY RESULTS!
Brandon, I Proved My Case that The International Surrealist Movement
Keeps Closed Doors, that is A FACT! Brandon, I also Proved My Case
that NowSurreal UK was INFLITRATED and SABOTAGED not by Surrealists,
but by RADICAL MARGINALS, who have NO AGENDA! Brandon, also YOU FAIL
TO REALIZE THAT JIHAD IS VERY REAL AND THE PEOPLE THAT YOU WANT TO
SAVE, DO NOT LIKE YOU OR ME! Brandon, You and All Your Comrades are
Living A LIE! You want to Save People that want to Destroy You and Me
because they Believe that You and Me are the Enemy of Allah, thus
making us all targets of JIHAD and You Mock this Very Real and Serious
Matter. Brandon, Then to Prove How INSENSITIVE YOU and Your Comrades
REALLY ARE TO ANY HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUES, YOU SUPPORT BARRETT JOHN
ERICKSON'S 9/11 ESSAY TEXT that BLANTANTLY MOCKS AND SATIRIZES THE
DEATHS OF INNOCENT LIVES ON SEPT.11, where that Essay states that The
Terrorist Attack on 9/11 was Surreal upon looking at it in the,
"Surrealist" Perspective! Granted Barrett is Very Intelligent but WHY
Do You Support this Kind of ESSAY TEXT or Dale Houstman's,"TERRORISM
IS HOPE"? Brandon, Then You Publically call for A SURREALIST JIHAD in
this Very Forum!!!!! HOW RADICAL ARE YOU

Kwigd144

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Feb 26, 2003, 8:38:59 PM2/26/03
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Brandon, really Jihad secures Terror on Everyone and to deny that is wrong.
Granted you do stand by your convictions but The Surrealist Project is supposed
to Embrace Mankind and anyone, Surrealist or not is wrong to dismiss Jihad.
This Movement is really Stagnant and Literally Dead. I keep asking YOU, Brandon
to Show me any LIFE in this Movement, but there is none, especially when Doors
are closed and Surrealist Agendas are HIDDEN from PUBLIC VIEW! Brandon Freels
YOU AS A SURREALIST HAVE A DUTY TO DENOUNCE ME AS A SURREALIST BY PROVING ME
WRONG AND TO SUCCESSFULLY TO THAT, YOU MUST SHOW ME YOUR COMRADES ALLIANCE WITH
YOU THAT YOU DO NOT SPEAK ONLY fOR YOURSELF AS YOU HAVE BEEN DOING IN THE FORUM
ALL ALONG! Tell them to Post instead of Hiding, either way I present the FORUM
TRANSCRIPTS AS THEY ARE, and I HAVE PROVED MY CASE!!!!!!!!!!!

Brandon Freels

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Feb 27, 2003, 2:45:20 AM2/27/03
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Surrealism was never meant to "embrace mankind" but to change the
world. Your own feelings towards the Surrealist movement are driven by
a deep resentment towards those who have rejected you. You claim that
the movement is stagnant and dead, but how can you make claims about
my activity in Portland when you don't know me or my friends here? How
can you make claims about what is happening in Chicago, Minnesota,
Stockholm, etc, when you have never had any contact with these people
outside of a frenzied e-mail or two? The fact that these groups exist
as convergences of surrealists is enough to disprove your claim that
the movement is stagnant and dead. The fact that there are already two
statements against the war on Iraq is enough to disprove your claim
that the movement is stagnant and dead. These groups exist and
understand the importance of working locally, evening if there actions
don't reach elitist/fascist Keith Wigdor in New York.

This continued bark about "opening doors" is just stupid. There are no
closed doors to open! How am I supposed to open doors that don't
exist?

PS So you've noticed that I'm the only one willing to respond to your
quackery. No one is hiding, they are just sick of you. I like baiting
you.


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Morpheal

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Feb 27, 2003, 9:13:32 PM2/27/03
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Brandon Freels wrote:
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> Surrealism was never meant to "embrace mankind" but to change the
> world. Your own feelings towards the Surrealist movement....

Andre Breton announced, earlier today, a surrealist jihad, to take the
entire planet for the sake of surrealist hegemony.

Some won't believe Breton remains active, but I assure you he is as
active as any great prophet in any significant movement. He lives on,
in the same way that all great prophets live on.

R.

john adams

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Feb 28, 2003, 11:21:33 PM2/28/03
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'The city is looking for a ritual to join its fragments. The Doors are
looking for such a ritual, too - a sort of electric wedding.' -jim morrison,
shirtless rock god


elag

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Mar 2, 2003, 9:41:42 PM3/2/03
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If the doors of perception were cleansed everything would appear to man
as it is, infinite.
邑illiam Blake


Most of these modifiers of consciousness cannot now be taken
except under doctor's orders, or else illegally and at
considerable risk. For unrestricted use the West has permitted
only alcohol and tobacco. All the other chemical Doors in the
Wall are labeled Dope, and their unauthorized takers are Fiends.
We now spend a good deal more on drink and smoke than we
spend on education. This, of course, is not surprising. The urge
to escape from selfhood and the environment is in almost everyone
almost all the time. The urge to do something for the young is
strong only in parents, and in them only for the few years during
which their children go to school. Equally unsurprising is the
current attitude towards drink and smoke. In spite of the growing
army of hopeless alcoholics, in spite of the hundreds of
thousands of persons annually maimed or killed by drunken
drivers, popular comedians still crack jokes about alcohol and
its addicts. And in spite of the evidence linking cigarettes with
lung cancer, practically everybody regards tobacco smoking as
being hardly less normal and natural than eating. From the point
of view of the rationalist utilitarian this may seem odd. For the
historian, it is exactly what you would expect. A firm conviction
of the material reality of Hell never prevented medieval
Christians from doing what their ambition, lust or covetousness
suggested. Lung cancer, traffic accidents and the millions of
miserable and misery-creating alcoholics are facts even more
certain than was, in Dante's day, the fact of the Inferno. But
all such facts are remote and unsubstantial compared with the
near, felt fact of a craving, here and now, for release or sedation, for
a drink or a smoke.

from: The Doors of Perception by Aldous Huxley

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